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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 13, 2023 2:01:38 GMT
The respective Wikipedia pages say Annascaul won Novice in '76 and An Ghaeltacht in 1992. This is what I am going on (well a bit more in the case of Annascaul). Very good. Would Tommy Doyle have been playing in ‘76? I’d imagine a few Gaeltacht lads would’ve played from 92 to 2001. Yes, Doyle was playing for Kerry the year after... Darragh Sé may well have been playing Novice club in 1992. I understand that some Valentia players did what Doyle did (in a very similar era): "There are a few ex GAA players from Valentia Island who have a unique collection of county football championship medals. We'll call it the "the Kerry slam"  Novice 1975, Junior 1981, Intermediate 1986 & 1995, County club 1986, County senior championship 1981 & 1982 (with South Kerry)." kerrygaa.proboards.com/thread/3735/county-championship-medal-winners |
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 13, 2023 7:50:47 GMT
I reckon Tommy Doyle won the Novice Championship, the Junior Championship, the Intermediate Championship, the Senior Club as well as the Co Championship with West Kerry (and very nearly with his club too). Any other players won all five? Any player win all five with their club? Didn’t think Anascaul were ever in the Novice but could be wrong of course. Although I do remember Tommy Doyle playing in a West Kerry B final against Lispole. He was eligible as he had been injured all year and hadn’t played for the Seniors. I think he may have been retired at that stage but only just. Well they were in the Junior Championship that was the Novice only a few years ago. I think I seen somewhere where Tommy Doyle said he played in every division of the county league as well. |
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 13, 2023 7:54:38 GMT
Up to 1927 Tralee played as a single side in the County championship (Tralee Mitchels and Tralee selection winning several titles) - street teams (including the three main streets) existed from the earliest days of the GAA in Kerry. Richard Mc Elligott's history of Kerry football lists over 30 different names that Tralee sides used in the first fifty tears of the GAA in Kerry. In 1928 the three main street teams of Rock Street, Strand Street and Boherbue played individually in the Co Championship and the formation of Na Gael in 1979 (Oakpark/Listowel Road) gave us the current four town clubs. Over time the three street teams adopted the names Austin Stacks, O Rahillys (and later Kerins O Rahilly's) and John Mitchells. I think the current limit of 8 senior clubs is the lowest number of clubs in the County championship and this is a significant contributor to the current situation where only 1 senior club will be representing Tralee in 2024 - probably the first time since 1927? I suppose an irony is that as this is happening in the big ball, Tralee Parnells are progressing to a stage where being a serious force in senior hurling is only a few years away! A lot of my friends who are hurling men embedded in their clubs in the likes of Ardfert, Crotta, Lixnaw are very resentful towards the preferential treatment they see Parnells getting underage. Or so they claim. I'm too removed these times to know the truth. Still it's an interesting dynamic developing. But by the same token there is something wrong if Tralee is only mustering one senior football club Some North Kerry clubs have got the hump over Parnells because they are now beaten them at underage etc They're also not happy that Parnells now have adult teams as they can't take their players anymore. This attitude imo is what's holding back hurling in Kerry. North Kerry teams have no problem with South Kerry teams once they don't start beating them. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 13, 2023 8:24:58 GMT
Didn’t think Anascaul were ever in the Novice but could be wrong of course. Although I do remember Tommy Doyle playing in a West Kerry B final against Lispole. He was eligible as he had been injured all year and hadn’t played for the Seniors. I think he may have been retired at that stage but only just. Well they were in the Junior Championship that was the Novice only a few years ago. I think I seen somewhere where Tommy Doyle said he played in every division of the county league as well. I think not only did he play in every division someone told me they and he won every division. |
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Post by ciarraiochmallaithe on Sept 13, 2023 18:46:26 GMT
Never knew Annascaul were so good
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Post by horsebox77 on Sept 13, 2023 20:03:16 GMT
Never knew Annascaul were so good They got to the county final one year, mid 90's vs Killorglin. They beat the narries, in the semi final after a replay, they were two good games |
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 13, 2023 20:45:29 GMT
Never knew Annascaul were so good Would have been one of the strongest clubs in the late 80s to early 90s. Would have had a lot of players playing with Kerry at the time. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Sept 13, 2023 20:54:06 GMT
Never knew Annascaul were so good Would have been one of the strongest clubs in the late 80s to early 90s. Would have had a lot of players playing with Kerry at the time. Actually that's true, after Tommy Doyle retired, in the lean years senior wise, you had David Farrell, Fintan Ashe, Johnny Driscoll, Bingo Driscoll, Geni Farrell..... even at underage you had Mark Moynihan, Kieran Driscoll, Vincent Knightly etc... that's a nice tidy number just off the top of the head... I'm sure there are more that have slipped the mind, there was another that was midfield for the minors in 88 or 89, but the name escapes me... |
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Post by peanuts on Sept 14, 2023 12:45:05 GMT
Would have been one of the strongest clubs in the late 80s to early 90s. Would have had a lot of players playing with Kerry at the time. Actually that's true, after Tommy Doyle retired, in the lean years senior wise, you had David Farrell, Fintan Ashe, Johnny Driscoll, Bingo Driscoll, Geni Farrell..... even at underage you had Mark Moynihan, Kieran Driscoll, Vincent Knightly etc... that's a nice tidy number just off the top of the head... I'm sure there are more that have slipped the mind, there was another that was midfield for the minors in 88 or 89, but the name escapes me... Fintan Ashe is Dingle. Vincent Knightly was centre back on the 1988 minor winning team. I think Sean Driscoll was midfield in the 1990 team that lost the AIF so that’s probably who you’re referring to. Genie Farrell and Johnny Driscoll were on that team as well so three first cousins. Annascaul were strong at that time as you say. AFAIK David Farrell captained Kerry in a Munster championship match in 1991 (after Wk won in 1990). David had a lot of injury problems and he and a few of the Driscolls ended up going to the States. |
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 14, 2023 12:57:27 GMT
Actually that's true, after Tommy Doyle retired, in the lean years senior wise, you had David Farrell, Fintan Ashe, Johnny Driscoll, Bingo Driscoll, Geni Farrell..... even at underage you had Mark Moynihan, Kieran Driscoll, Vincent Knightly etc... that's a nice tidy number just off the top of the head... I'm sure there are more that have slipped the mind, there was another that was midfield for the minors in 88 or 89, but the name escapes me... Fintan Ashe is Dingle. Vincent Knightly was centre back on the 1988 minor winning team. I think Sean Driscoll was midfield in the 1990 team that lost the AIF so that’s probably who you’re referring to. Genie Farrell and Johnny Driscoll were on that team as well so three first cousins. Annascaul were strong at that time as you say. AFAIK David Farrell captained Kerry in a Munster championship match in 1991 (after Wk won in 1990). David had a lot of injury problems and he and a few of the Driscolls ended up going to the States. In the 1991 All-Ireland U21 final three of the starting six forwards were from Annascsul with Vincent Knightly Centre back. Impressive for sure a small club. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Sept 14, 2023 15:22:13 GMT
Yes, Sean Driscoll, that's who I was referring to. Ya, Fintan was Dingle, that was a bit of a brain fartm as I played against him often enough..
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Post by mossie on Sept 14, 2023 22:01:59 GMT
Actually that's true, after Tommy Doyle retired, in the lean years senior wise, you had David Farrell, Fintan Ashe, Johnny Driscoll, Bingo Driscoll, Geni Farrell..... even at underage you had Mark Moynihan, Kieran Driscoll, Vincent Knightly etc... that's a nice tidy number just off the top of the head... I'm sure there are more that have slipped the mind, there was another that was midfield for the minors in 88 or 89, but the name escapes me... Fintan Ashe is Dingle. Vincent Knightly was centre back on the 1988 minor winning team. I think Sean Driscoll was midfield in the 1990 team that lost the AIF so that’s probably who you’re referring to. Genie Farrell and Johnny Driscoll were on that team as well so three first cousins. Annascaul were strong at that time as you say. AFAIK David Farrell captained Kerry in a Munster championship match in 1991 (after Wk won in 1990). David had a lot of injury problems and he and a few of the Driscolls ended up going to the States. if I am not mistaken the Driscolls and the Farrells are first cousins? some amount of footballers came out of them two houses! |
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Post by mossie on Sept 14, 2023 22:04:02 GMT
Never knew Annascaul were so good They got to the county final one year, mid 90's vs Killorglin. They beat the narries, in the semi final after a replay, they were two good games It was massive at the time, Annascual getting to that final, a real novelty. huge achievement, just fell a bit short in the final. had huge talent but time kind of broke up after, few key players went to America |
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Post by horsebox77 on Sept 15, 2023 7:23:55 GMT
Fintan Ashe is Dingle. Vincent Knightly was centre back on the 1988 minor winning team. I think Sean Driscoll was midfield in the 1990 team that lost the AIF so that’s probably who you’re referring to. Genie Farrell and Johnny Driscoll were on that team as well so three first cousins. Annascaul were strong at that time as you say. AFAIK David Farrell captained Kerry in a Munster championship match in 1991 (after Wk won in 1990). David had a lot of injury problems and he and a few of the Driscolls ended up going to the States. if I am not mistaken the Driscolls and the Farrells are first cousins? some amount of footballers came out of them two houses! Yes, they were first cousins, I'd go nearly one further and I nearly certain that the Knightly's were also first cousins of the Driscolls and Farrells. |
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Post by Jo90 on Sept 15, 2023 13:37:00 GMT
With Stacks now spending another year at Intermediate and one of Strand Road or Na Gaeil dropping down, well bar they both get to the county final. When is the last time Tralee has had only one senior club? Up to 1927 Tralee played as a single side in the County championship (Tralee Mitchels and Tralee selection winning several titles) - street teams (including the three main streets) existed from the earliest days of the GAA in Kerry. Richard Mc Elligott's history of Kerry football lists over 30 different names that Tralee sides used in the first fifty tears of the GAA in Kerry. In 1928 the three main street teams of Rock Street, Strand Street and Boherbue played individually in the Co Championship and the formation of Na Gael in 1979 (Oakpark/Listowel Road) gave us the current four town clubs. Over time the three street teams adopted the names Austin Stacks, O Rahillys (and later Kerins O Rahilly's) and John Mitchells. I think the current limit of 8 senior clubs is the lowest number of clubs in the County championship and this is a significant contributor to the current situation where only 1 senior club will be representing Tralee in 2024 - probably the first time since 1927? The club(s) representing Tralee in the 2024 County Championship have 0 previous wins in the competition. Only 2 clubs in the 2024 County Championship will be previous winners of the competition. In the last 70 years only one new club has joined the winners list - Gaeltacht. (Lots of new Divisional winners in the 70s and 80s) |
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 15, 2023 13:42:57 GMT
Fintan Ashe is Dingle. Vincent Knightly was centre back on the 1988 minor winning team. I think Sean Driscoll was midfield in the 1990 team that lost the AIF so that’s probably who you’re referring to. Genie Farrell and Johnny Driscoll were on that team as well so three first cousins. Annascaul were strong at that time as you say. AFAIK David Farrell captained Kerry in a Munster championship match in 1991 (after Wk won in 1990). David had a lot of injury problems and he and a few of the Driscolls ended up going to the States. if I am not mistaken the Driscolls and the Farrells are first cousins? some amount of footballers came out of them two houses! There's more than one Driscoll family. They're also related to Tommy Doyle. |
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 15, 2023 13:44:23 GMT
Up to 1927 Tralee played as a single side in the County championship (Tralee Mitchels and Tralee selection winning several titles) - street teams (including the three main streets) existed from the earliest days of the GAA in Kerry. Richard Mc Elligott's history of Kerry football lists over 30 different names that Tralee sides used in the first fifty tears of the GAA in Kerry. In 1928 the three main street teams of Rock Street, Strand Street and Boherbue played individually in the Co Championship and the formation of Na Gael in 1979 (Oakpark/Listowel Road) gave us the current four town clubs. Over time the three street teams adopted the names Austin Stacks, O Rahillys (and later Kerins O Rahilly's) and John Mitchells. I think the current limit of 8 senior clubs is the lowest number of clubs in the County championship and this is a significant contributor to the current situation where only 1 senior club will be representing Tralee in 2024 - probably the first time since 1927? The club(s) representing Tralee in the 2024 County Championship have 0 previous wins in the competition. Only 2 clubs in the 2024 County Championship will be previous winners of the competition. In the last 70 years only one new club has joined the winners list - Gaeltacht. (Lots of new Divisional winners in the 70s and 80s) If it's Strand Road they've won it. Ghaeltacht are the only modern rural club to have won it. Ballymac were the other in the early days. |
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 15, 2023 13:50:23 GMT
The club(s) representing Tralee in the 2024 County Championship have 0 previous wins in the competition. Only 2 clubs in the 2024 County Championship will be previous winners of the competition. In the last 70 years only one new club has joined the winners list - Gaeltacht. (Lots of new Divisional winners in the 70s and 80s) If it's Strand Road they've won it. Ghaeltacht are the only modern rural club to have won it. Ballymac were the other in the early days. Dr Crokes have 13 wins, Dingle & Kerins O’Rahillys 6 each? Are you relegating Strand Road now? |
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 15, 2023 14:13:19 GMT
If it's Strand Road they've won it. Ghaeltacht are the only modern rural club to have won it. Ballymac were the other in the early days. Dr Crokes have 13 wins, Dingle & Kerins O’Rahillys 6 each? Are you relegating Strand Road now? Well technically Dingle have never actually won the county championship as the team from the 30s_40s had players from all of West Kerry. The current Dingle club didn't form until the late 60s I think. |
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 15, 2023 14:44:10 GMT
Dr Crokes have 13 wins, Dingle & Kerins O’Rahillys 6 each? Are you relegating Strand Road now? Well technically Dingle have never actually won the county championship as the team from the 30s_40s had players from all of West Kerry. The current Dingle club didn't form until the late 60s I think. Ok, got it! |
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 15, 2023 15:23:25 GMT
A curious piece of Trivia from "Forging a Kingdom" - in 1930 there were 93 football and 36 hurling clubs affiliated to the Kerry County Board. From these only 7 football (3 from Tralee) and 8 hurling sides contested the county championship And this was at a time when Kerry were in the midst of their first 4 in a row (1929-1932).
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Post by onlykerry on Sept 15, 2023 15:28:05 GMT
Dr Crokes have 13 wins, Dingle & Kerins O’Rahillys 6 each? Are you relegating Strand Road now? Well technically Dingle have never actually won the county championship as the team from the 30s_40s had players from all of West Kerry. The current Dingle club didn't form until the late 60s I think. 1967 according to the club history - first Dingle side affiliated to Kerry County Board dates back to 1891 but as with so may teams from the early years they formed and disbanded from year to year. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 25, 2023 1:47:27 GMT
We sometimes hear about a father and son lining out together... maybe in Kerry or beyond.
Has there ever been a club player who played with a parent and then later with a child?
I guess I would restrict to a club's first team.
I have no answers.
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 25, 2023 8:51:28 GMT
We sometimes hear about a father and son lining out together... maybe in Kerry or beyond. Has there ever been a club player who played with a parent and then later with a child? I guess I would restrict to a club's first team. I have no answers. I would imagine Mikey Boyle falls into this category, I know he togged with one of his sons this year, I'm almost certain he togged along with a few of his brothers when his own father was in goals for Ballyduff. |
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 25, 2023 9:05:12 GMT
We sometimes hear about a father and son lining out together... maybe in Kerry or beyond. Has there ever been a club player who played with a parent and then later with a child? I guess I would restrict to a club's first team. I have no answers. I would imagine Mikey Boyle falls into this category, I know he togged with one of his sons this year, I'm almost certain he togged along with a few of his brothers when his own father was in goals for Ballyduff. He wouldn't have played with the father. He'd be a bit younger than the other brothers. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 25, 2023 9:53:25 GMT
I would imagine Mikey Boyle falls into this category, I know he togged with one of his sons this year, I'm almost certain he togged along with a few of his brothers when his own father was in goals for Ballyduff. He wouldn't have played with the father. He'd be a bit younger than the other brothers. Well that scratches that then.. |
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 25, 2023 11:16:44 GMT
He wouldn't have played with the father. He'd be a bit younger than the other brothers. Well that scratches that then.. Liam could possibly do it. I think he played with his father. Not sure if he's still playing though. |
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Post by tadhg on Nov 5, 2023 21:10:09 GMT
Hi All, New to the forum so I hope you don't mind me asking a quick question.
A friend of mine from Dublin is researching a book at the moment and has asked me the question 'Has anyone NOT born in Kerry ever played for Kerry'.
I scratched my head but can't think of any but I'm not the best person to answer the question either.
If any of you can help I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Post by mossie on Nov 5, 2023 21:52:32 GMT
Well that scratches that then.. Liam could possibly do it. I think he played with his father. Not sure if he's still playing though. Liam played with his father Liam in the mid 1990s, Liam was 16 or so coming on a sub for Ballyduff in a county final and his father was in goals. I dont think Liam will get to play with his son. Evan will go straight into the Ballyduff senior team and Liam's playing contribution is now just the odd appearance with Ladies Walk |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 6, 2023 2:25:26 GMT
Hi All, New to the forum so I hope you don't mind me asking a quick question. A friend of mine from Dublin is researching a book at the moment and has asked me the question 'Has anyone NOT born in Kerry ever played for Kerry'. I scratched my head but can't think of any but I'm not the best person to answer the question either. If any of you can help I'd greatly appreciate it. There are loads of examples. Not Vinnie Murphy examples, but Tommy Doyle and Darren O'Sullivan who were born abroad (Chicago and London). I would guess also technical answers would be people born in maternity hospitals in Cork. I presume there is a sprinkling of those. |
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