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Post by givehimaball on Nov 6, 2023 11:58:09 GMT
Hi All, New to the forum so I hope you don't mind me asking a quick question. A friend of mine from Dublin is researching a book at the moment and has asked me the question 'Has anyone NOT born in Kerry ever played for Kerry'. I scratched my head but can't think of any but I'm not the best person to answer the question either. If any of you can help I'd greatly appreciate it. There are loads of examples. Not Vinnie Murphy examples, but Tommy Doyle and Darren O'Sullivan who were born abroad (Chicago and London). I would guess also technical answers would be people born in maternity hospitals in Cork. I presume there is a sprinkling of those. Probably hard enough to find out about the maternity hospitals - wouldn't imagine that it is something folk would be broadcasting. I think I read Stefan Okunbor was something like 3 or 4 when he moved to Ireland. |
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Post by murt11 on Nov 6, 2023 21:29:58 GMT
Hi All, New to the forum so I hope you don't mind me asking a quick question. A friend of mine from Dublin is researching a book at the moment and has asked me the question 'Has anyone NOT born in Kerry ever played for Kerry'. I scratched my head but can't think of any but I'm not the best person to answer the question either. If any of you can help I'd greatly appreciate it. Darren o Sullivan lived in London for most of his childhood before moving to kerry, not sure if he was born in England |
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Post by horsebox77 on Nov 6, 2023 21:40:53 GMT
I'm surprised this hasn't got more traction here.
The Garveys XV team of 21st C'ship.
Team Of The 21st Century
1. Shane Murphy (Dr Crokes)
2. Stephen O’Sullivan (South Kerry)
3. Mike Maloney (Dr Crokes)
4. Killian Young (South Kerry)
5. Denis ‘Shine’ O’Sullivan (South)
6. Eoin Brosnan (Dr Crokes)
7. Shane Myers (Dr Crokes)
8. Bryan Sheehan (South Kerry)
9. Johnny Buckley)
10. Kieran O’Leary (Dr Crokes)
11. Declan O’Sullivan (South Kerry)
12. Brian Looney (Dr Crokes)
13. Colm ‘Gooch’ Cooper (Dr Crokes)
14. Dara Ó Cinnéide (An Ghaeltacht)
15. Maurice Fitzgerald (South Kerry
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Post by murt11 on Nov 6, 2023 21:55:54 GMT
I'm surprised this hasn't got more traction here. The Garveys XV team of 21st C'ship. Team Of The 21st Century 1. Shane Murphy (Dr Crokes) 2. Stephen O’Sullivan (South Kerry) 3. Mike Maloney (Dr Crokes) 4. Killian Young (South Kerry) 5. Denis ‘Shine’ O’Sullivan (South) 6. Eoin Brosnan (Dr Crokes) 7. Shane Myers (Dr Crokes) 8. Bryan Sheehan (South Kerry) 9. Johnny Buckley) 10. Kieran O’Leary (Dr Crokes) 11. Declan O’Sullivan (South Kerry) 12. Brian Looney (Dr Crokes) 13. Colm ‘Gooch’ Cooper (Dr Crokes) 14. Dara Ó Cinnéide (An Ghaeltacht) 15. Maurice Fitzgerald (South Kerry 0 East kerry players with 4 championships in the 21st century? |
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Post by kerryexile on Nov 6, 2023 23:19:16 GMT
I'm surprised this hasn't got more traction here. The Garveys XV team of 21st C'ship. Team Of The 21st Century 1. Shane Murphy (Dr Crokes) 2. Stephen O’Sullivan (South Kerry) 3. Mike Maloney (Dr Crokes) 4. Killian Young (South Kerry) 5. Denis ‘Shine’ O’Sullivan (South) 6. Eoin Brosnan (Dr Crokes) 7. Shane Myers (Dr Crokes) 8. Bryan Sheehan (South Kerry) 9. Johnny Buckley) 10. Kieran O’Leary (Dr Crokes) 11. Declan O’Sullivan (South Kerry) 12. Brian Looney (Dr Crokes) 13. Colm ‘Gooch’ Cooper (Dr Crokes) 14. Dara Ó Cinnéide (An Ghaeltacht) 15. Maurice Fitzgerald (South Kerry Was it Paul Flynn that picked that team? |
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Post by southward on Nov 6, 2023 23:29:30 GMT
What was the criteria used here? Was it (a) the best players that took part in the championship (b) the players who actually performed best in the championship (c) just players who played on the most successful championship teams or (d) something else? It's not terribly clear and it just comes across as ridiculous tbh.
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Post by kerryexile on Nov 6, 2023 23:59:41 GMT
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Post by horsebox77 on Nov 7, 2023 7:54:09 GMT
What was the criteria used here? Was it (a) the best players that took part in the championship (b) the players who actually performed best in the championship (c) just players who played on the most successful championship teams or (d) something else? It's not terribly clear and it just comes across as ridiculous tbh. No idea, I recall seeing the entry forms, but it was loose at best. look like most other "selections" 0r all star teams, you could sit five lads at the bar to pick a XV and you'd have between three and four different selections... usually such selections are just thought provoking and conversations starters.... It's like comparing Mikey Sheehy, Colm Cooper and David Clifford... different era and different ball game.. |
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 7, 2023 9:16:41 GMT
What was the criteria used here? Was it (a) the best players that took part in the championship (b) the players who actually performed best in the championship (c) just players who played on the most successful championship teams or (d) something else? It's not terribly clear and it just comes across as ridiculous tbh. While such teams will have rase debate etc it's odd how someone could pick a team from 2000 to 2022 and only have players from three teams in it. |
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Post by mjsway on Nov 7, 2023 12:19:33 GMT
Johnny Buckley over daragh o se or even Moran?
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Post by horsebox77 on Nov 7, 2023 13:19:17 GMT
Johnny Buckley over daragh o se or even Moran? As a player, not in a month of Sundays, but if one is going on club success at county championship level, your comparing Crokes to an Gaeltacht or Strand Road.... then this is exactly where the criteria gets muddled |
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Post by murt11 on Nov 7, 2023 18:59:56 GMT
I'm surprised this hasn't got more traction here. The Garveys XV team of 21st C'ship. Team Of The 21st Century 1. Shane Murphy (Dr Crokes) 2. Stephen O’Sullivan (South Kerry) 3. Mike Maloney (Dr Crokes) 4. Killian Young (South Kerry) 5. Denis ‘Shine’ O’Sullivan (South) 6. Eoin Brosnan (Dr Crokes) 7. Shane Myers (Dr Crokes) 8. Bryan Sheehan (South Kerry) 9. Johnny Buckley) 10. Kieran O’Leary (Dr Crokes) 11. Declan O’Sullivan (South Kerry) 12. Brian Looney (Dr Crokes) 13. Colm ‘Gooch’ Cooper (Dr Crokes) 14. Dara Ó Cinnéide (An Ghaeltacht) 15. Maurice Fitzgerald (South Kerry Surely Paul Murphy deserves a spot in the half back line ? |
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Post by brigid on Nov 7, 2023 20:27:42 GMT
Hi All, New to the forum so I hope you don't mind me asking a quick question. A friend of mine from Dublin is researching a book at the moment and has asked me the question 'Has anyone NOT born in Kerry ever played for Kerry'. I scratched my head but can't think of any but I'm not the best person to answer the question either. If any of you can help I'd greatly appreciate it. There are loads of examples. Not Vinnie Murphy examples, but Tommy Doyle and Darren O'Sullivan who were born abroad (Chicago and London). I would guess also technical answers would be people born in maternity hospitals in Cork. I presume there is a sprinkling of those. A baby born in a hospital outside of the home county is regarded as a home county baby if the parents are normally living in the home county. It is very important at Census form filling that parents are aware of this. A significant number of Kerry babies are born in Cork. Likewise, Meath babies born in Dublin. So, it is the parents home county that matters. |
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Post by mjsway on Nov 7, 2023 21:39:48 GMT
1. Shane Ryan
2.Marc o se
3. Sherwood
4.Killian Young
5. Tomas o se
6. Eoin Brosnan
7. Paul Murphy
8. Daragh o se
9. Bryan Sheehan
10.darren o sullivan
11. Declan o sullivan
12.Looney.
13. Gooch
14. Star
15. Maurice Fitz
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Post by glengael on Nov 8, 2023 9:18:40 GMT
'It is very important at Census form filling that parents are aware of this'.
Why is that Brigid- is there a question specifically on this- I don't usually fill the Census form in our house so I am not familiar with it.
Many counties have no maternity hospitals now, Clare, Kildare, Carlow, Meath as far as I know, so parents there, unlike those in Kerry, have no choice but to go elsewhere.
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 9, 2023 19:42:41 GMT
County medals in 3 generations of the Crowley family now Derry, John & Luke. Are they the first to do it I wonder?
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Post by mossie on Nov 9, 2023 19:58:32 GMT
County medals in 3 generations of the Crowley family now Derry, John & Luke. Are they the first to do it I wonder? now there is good one, cannot think of any family off the top of my head in football. Derry Crowley has the senior hurling championship medal in 1969 as well to go with the football, he won football and hurling in the one year, in fact Luke won in both codes this year as well, hurling was junior though |
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 10, 2023 9:13:45 GMT
County medals in 3 generations of the Crowley family now Derry, John & Luke. Are they the first to do it I wonder? now there is good one, cannot think of any family off the top of my head in football. Derry Crowley has the senior hurling championship medal in 1969 as well to go with the football, he won football and hurling in the one year, in fact Luke won in both codes this year as well, hurling was junior though Lot of father and sons would have done it. The Sheehys from Mitchels would have. Think they came close to having 3 generations when Mitchels last made the final. I think Dinny and Tim Falvey from Annascsul did it. Dinny with Strand Road and Tim with West Kerry. Lot would have done it in hurling, with many doing it while playing together! The Boyles looking pretty likely to join the 3 generation club in the not too distance future. |
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Post by tadhg on Nov 10, 2023 16:13:19 GMT
Thank you very much quote author=" givehimaball" source="/post/283572/thread" timestamp="1699271889"] There are loads of examples. Not Vinnie Murphy examples, but Tommy Doyle and Darren O'Sullivan who were born abroad (Chicago and London). I would guess also technical answers would be people born in maternity hospitals in Cork. I presume there is a sprinkling of those. Probably hard enough to find out about the maternity hospitals - wouldn't imagine that it is something folk would be broadcasting. I think I read Stefan Okunbor was something like 3 or 4 when he moved to Ireland. [/quote] |
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Post by tadhg on Nov 10, 2023 16:15:30 GMT
Thank you very much thats great info Hi All, New to the forum so I hope you don't mind me asking a quick question. A friend of mine from Dublin is researching a book at the moment and has asked me the question 'Has anyone NOT born in Kerry ever played for Kerry'. I scratched my head but can't think of any but I'm not the best person to answer the question either. If any of you can help I'd greatly appreciate it. I know P.J McIntyre a Garda from Offal based in Kenmare played both hurling and football for Kerry but did not win an all Ireland medal. |
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Post by jerryewe on Dec 3, 2023 21:39:40 GMT
Name the 2 Irish soccer internationals whose fathers won all-Ireland medals with Kerry under Mick O’ Dwyer? And they bothwon senior international caps
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Post by horsebox77 on Dec 3, 2023 22:37:30 GMT
Name the 2 Irish soccer internationals whose fathers won all-Ireland medals with Kerry under Mick O’ Dwyer? And they bothwon senior international caps Well, one is John Egan but I'm at a loss to think of a second. |
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Post by veteran on Dec 3, 2023 22:52:25 GMT
Name the 2 Irish soccer internationals whose fathers won all-Ireland medals with Kerry under Mick O’ Dwyer? And they bothwon senior international caps Did Ger O’Driscoll’s daughter , Casey , play soccer for Ireland? She played for the Kerry ladies as well. |
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Post by peanuts on Dec 3, 2023 22:52:54 GMT
Name the 2 Irish soccer internationals whose fathers won all-Ireland medals with Kerry under Mick O’ Dwyer? And they bothwon senior international caps Well, one is John Egan but I'm at a loss to think of a second. Could be female? |
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Post by jerryewe on Dec 4, 2023 1:20:08 GMT
Name the 2 Irish soccer internationals whose fathers won all-Ireland medals with Kerry under Mick O’ Dwyer? And they bothwon senior international caps Did Ger O’Driscoll’s daughter , Casey , play soccer for Ireland? She played for the Kerry ladies as well. That’s correct. You would need to be up early in the morning to catch you out Veteran |
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Post by ballhopper34 on Dec 19, 2023 23:35:43 GMT
What player has the longest playing span for Kerry?
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Post by ballhopper34 on Dec 20, 2023 0:30:31 GMT
What player has the longest playing span for Kerry? Mick O Connell? Mick O'Connell is third longest. |
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Post by john4 on Dec 20, 2023 1:31:55 GMT
What player has the longest playing span for Kerry? Mick O Connell? His neighbour! Mick O'Dwyer? |
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Post by Aodhan on Dec 20, 2023 1:35:50 GMT
Pat Spillane?
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Post by ballhopper34 on Dec 20, 2023 3:38:25 GMT
3 excellent guesses...the Top 3 are:
Mick O'Dwyer 19 years and 4 months
Pat Spillane 19 years 2 months
Mick O'Connell 19 years and 10 days.
Numbers 4 and 5 on the list are tricky...
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