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Post by greengold35 on Mar 28, 2022 11:22:55 GMT
A lot of people pinning our hopes on Moran to sort out midfield for the championship. But do we know if he's even going to be available, much less up to IC fitness? He hasn't played all year and the whole thing is going to be over in four months. Is he even training at the moment? David completed his rehab about 6 weeks ago & was back running - he had a relapse which required another 4 weeks recuperation & has been doing light training since - he should be ready for 7th May but not for 70 mins.
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Post by kot on Mar 28, 2022 11:28:30 GMT
The 2 games that bookended the league & the game against Mayo in particular have me worried. The aforementioned goalkeeping and midfield issues but the slow, ponderous and naive build up play being clearly indoctrinated by the management. It is this reason that I still think we will come up short
Caught out against Kildare, nearly caught against Mayo and undone yesterday. If we are going to go short then move it quickly. The amount of times I saw fellas steaming through the middle but the man on the ball in the half back / midfield area went backward or sideways or sauntered out to the sideline with it. Inviting pressure, going nowhere and allowing the opposition to get back and lay traps.
Surely, if you have inside forward of the calibre we have, our best bet is to move the ball as fast as possible up to them. Not p!55ing about going around & over & back to ultimately waste possession.
I know yesterday was essentially a dead rubber, but Kildare wasnt when we basically did the same thing and were aimless. A well set up / well drilled team will cause us problems and when they do, we get desperate and struggle to get our match winners on the ball in the right areas.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Mar 28, 2022 11:53:50 GMT
Well done to Tyrone yesterday. Yet again, they out played, outbattled and out thought us. Again, we knew what they would bring and couldn’t match it or better it. They are a very good team and don’t get much in the way of kudos for their performances. Quite simply yesterday they were the better team all through, much the same as last year’s semi final. The game was played on their terms and they fought like tigers to retain their division 1 status, which they deservedly did. Much has been said of our continuing deficiencies around the middle of the park and the inconsistency in the goals. We are probably no further down the line in terms of remedying those deficiencies. It’s no harm to get a reality check from a class team to remind us that we are far from the finished article. Next weekend will be another great test of our resolve and it will be another opportunity to work on ironing out the very obvious kinks in our system. However, we have built on our defence, only 1 goal conceded this season. We have the material up front if we can get the method right to provide them with the possession and space to do what they are capable of doing. It is great to see Tony Brosnan continue to progress. We have work to do, but then what team doesn’t. This will be the most open championship for years and won’t be easily won but I would still have us up there in the top three as contenders. Looking forward to next weekend. Roll on!
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Post by john4 on Mar 28, 2022 11:59:58 GMT
Tyrone are currently 8/1 to win the All Ireland, in from 9/1 before yesterday and behind Kerry, Dublin and Mayo. Why don't the bookies like them. Anytime a battle has come their way they've stood up!
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 28, 2022 12:00:35 GMT
Lads I must get something off my chest that I noticed yesterday and it's not my 1st time experiencing unfortunately. I was in the terrace under the commentary box yesterday and some of the Kerrys fans reactions were simply embarrassing. On my left, during the 1st half, I saw one Kerry supporter refer to Kieran McGeerey as a Northern C**t and the chap wasn't aware he was standing right next to Tyrone supporters and he was rightly pulled up on it. 2nd incident was after the full time whistle, a different guy to my right was having a go at the Tyrone supporters in front of him over an incident he didn't like earlier in the game (I think it was McCurrys hit on Casey) and he was letting them know about it. When they said to him there was enough officials watching the game and it was up to them to take action he said to them, more or less, that their style of football wasn't welcome down here and they should f**k off home where they came from. Now in all honesty guys, I know we're a passionate bunch about our football and all that but to make opposition supporters feel unwelcome and to discriminate against them is also wrong. They are only supporting their team, they have no control on how the game is played out. I can safely say that no matter what county I've travelled to, I've always been made feel welcome and we should be doing the same to others who visit our towns and put money into our economy. I know it's only a small few who do this but we should not feel like football always should be played on Kerrys terms either. If that were the case, football would become boring. Just be careful before voicing opinions at games and think before you speak. Rant Over 🤣 That is very disappointing if it happens, which I don't doubt. I often sit next to the opposition supporters at games, and most of the time it is great to char about their county and hear about what occupies people in other counties. I took the girlfriend to the Armagh match and it was her first time in the north. We went for dinner on Saturday night in Armagh and the server didn't even know there was a football game on. (we were in a different part of Armagh city) So we had a lovely conversation about sports in the north and I explained a bit more about Gaelic games to the lad. When we were in Belfast we had lunch at one of the GAA clubs and they weren't half as nice, referring to us as freestaters, the girlfriend had never heard the term before, and there was actually more animosity than there was in Ballycraigy. Perhaps the GAA community should have a better look at itself as we always pride ourselves on the great atmosphere at games and how welcoming we all are to each other. We need to make sure all members of the GAA family feel equally included.
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Post by southward on Mar 28, 2022 12:01:50 GMT
Lads, I have to say the forum has gone awfully negative lately in relation to Kerry. Now I'm all for a bit of caution, the odd bout of yerra even, but there's a limit. Kerry are sitting top of the league, lost one game all year (by a point), conceded one legit goal. A good innings so far by any metric. Yet all I'm hearing is that this fella's no good, tactics are wrong, this team won't win anything, our supporters are bollixes. Even Radio Kerry are getting it in the neck now.
We wouldn't want to be Cork supporters anyway. Bit of balance, folks, please.
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Post by Jo90 on Mar 28, 2022 12:02:33 GMT
Lads I must get something off my chest that I noticed yesterday and it's not my 1st time experiencing unfortunately. I was in the terrace under the commentary box yesterday and some of the Kerrys fans reactions were simply embarrassing. On my left, during the 1st half, I saw one Kerry supporter refer to Kieran McGeerey as a Northern C**t and the chap wasn't aware he was standing right next to Tyrone supporters and he was rightly pulled up on it. 2nd incident was after the full time whistle, a different guy to my right was having a go at the Tyrone supporters in front of him over an incident he didn't like earlier in the game (I think it was McCurrys hit on Casey) and he was letting them know about it. When they said to him there was enough officials watching the game and it was up to them to take action he said to them, more or less, that their style of football wasn't welcome down here and they should f**k off home where they came from. Now in all honesty guys, I know we're a passionate bunch about our football and all that but to make opposition supporters feel unwelcome and to discriminate against them is also wrong. They are only supporting their team, they have no control on how the game is played out. I can safely say that no matter what county I've travelled to, I've always been made feel welcome and we should be doing the same to others who visit our towns and put money into our economy. I know it's only a small few who do this but we should not feel like football always should be played on Kerrys terms either. If that were the case, football would become boring. Just be careful before voicing opinions at games and think before you speak. Rant Over 🤣 Yeah, some very disrespectful and foul mouthed Kerry fans near me also and I notice this is often the case at home games v Tyrone. I like passion but it goes OTT with vitriol against Tyrone. It was especially sad to see it occurring in the company of Tyrone women and their children on Mother's Day Some of the Kerry fans were giving out about Tyrone's tactic of passing the ball around 'ruining the game' and a minute later Kerry were doing the exact same. Got a good laugh from Kerry fans and Tyrone fans alike when this was pointed out to them. I congratulated the Tyrone fans after the final whistle and said I hoped they had a nice weekend, and we all agreed it was great to see Dublin relegated!
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 28, 2022 12:13:53 GMT
Tyrone are currently 8/1 to win the All Ireland, in from 9/1 before yesterday and behind Kerry, Dublin and Mayo. Why don't the bookies like them. Anytime a battle has come their way they've stood up! I’ll be very surprised if the All Ireland winner isn’t one of the 2 teams that played in Killarney yesterday. I don’t see any other team of All Ireland winning quality in the country.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 28, 2022 12:54:18 GMT
Whether we like it or not Tyrone were again the fitter team, the better team, the more intelligent team and the more physical team. Yet, we still could have won that game due to the sheer brilliance of some players. We know exactly what we are getting from Tyrone, and we keep falling for it over and over, just like most of the country, otherwise they wouldn't be the All ireland Champions. Since the first game against Kildare just about 9 weeks ago we have been getting better and better in each game. We have fellas coming back and we have given quite a few of the panel some game time. Our big problem areas are still midfield and the goalkeeper. Shane Ryan is our main goalkeeper and while I don't want to say anything negative about Shane Murphy, it is more than clear that Ryan is ahead of him and we need to invest more time in Shane Ryan. Midfield is Diarmuid O'Connor and someone else. Preferably Jack Barry currently. Possibly with Joe O'Connor and David Moran depending on the opponents. Both Joe and David have come back from injury and might not last a full 70 minutes. Okunbor was imperious in the Sigerson before he got injured and he could be our answer when he comes back. Like Diarmuid he has the physique and the height for a midfielder, but also all the skills a modern midfielder needs. Where some players come back worse from the AFL, but some come back way better. Like Okunbor and Conor Glass. How we could do with Mark O'Connor now. Gavin White was quite incredible given that he just came back from injury.
I'm quietly hopeful for the future as we have quite a young team still, a good underage structure that might keep the conveyor belt rolling. Like Dublin it is not good enough to have a good team, you need young talent as well to keep strengthening the team. I think we have that. In my honest opinion it is not so much a matter of will this team win the All Ireland, but more when. I'm still convinced Kerry should have won the 2019 final, and it was experience that won it for Dublin. 2020 was just stupidity, I still can't get over that game against Cork. 2021 as we know it was our bogey team again. Even though we were played away we came within a point of a draw due to individual brilliance. Sounds familiar? It doesn't look like we have learned the lessons from 2021 yet, but perhaps we have learned more from yesterday than we did last year.
Let's look forwards and focus on the final. A game we can very much win in my opinion.
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Post by goonised on Mar 28, 2022 13:54:44 GMT
Fair enough but we won league the last two years and came up short in the championship. We need to use our forwards better. The last two leagues were a farce. The last proper league we came up short in final and came up short yesterday. Tyrone needed the win and got it.
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Post by jackiel on Mar 28, 2022 15:17:39 GMT
Ciarraimick , a tip for you - when you use the quote facility drill down a line or 2 and type your comments instead of just duplicating the previous post.
My tuppence worth on yesterday. Fabulous day, great crowd. I favour Shane Ryan for the goalies position, he seems more assured and will generally catch or attempt to catch rather than punching the ball. Great to see Stephen O Brien back in flying form. Tony Brosnan is finding his feet at last at county level and long may it continue. Gavin made his mark when he came on. There's going to be some competition for places for championship. I would have liked to see DC get a weekend off, he's played a lot of ball so far this year. While I understand the desire to win everything it would be a lot worse to lose DC to injury and affect our chances later in the year. Moot point now as there's no way he'll be rested next weekend. With regard to the unsportsmanlike/abusive carry on, it doesn't sit well with me to boo a free or a kickout. I recently stewarded at the colleges finals in Croke Park , the "soccer type" chanting and nastiness was distasteful to put it mildly. There are some totally OTT, can't see any wrong in our own type fans but you will always have that , the answer for me is to distance myself from that type of behaviour, same as in any other aspect of life.
On another note - Does anyone know what yesterdays attendance figure was.
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Post by jackiel on Mar 28, 2022 16:22:17 GMT
Perfect.
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Post by thepromisedland on Mar 28, 2022 17:11:23 GMT
Whether we like it or not Tyrone were again the fitter team, the better team, the more intelligent team and the more physical team. Yet, we still could have won that game due to the sheer brilliance of some players. We know exactly what we are getting from Tyrone, and we keep falling for it over and over, just like most of the country, otherwise they wouldn't be the All ireland Champions. Since the first game against Kildare just about 9 weeks ago we have been getting better and better in each game. We have fellas coming back and we have given quite a few of the panel some game time. Our big problem areas are still midfield and the goalkeeper. Shane Ryan is our main goalkeeper and while I don't want to say anything negative about Shane Murphy, it is more than clear that Ryan is ahead of him and we need to invest more time in Shane Ryan. Midfield is Diarmuid O'Connor and someone else. Preferably Jack Barry currently. Possibly with Joe O'Connor and David Moran depending on the opponents. Both Joe and David have come back from injury and might not last a full 70 minutes. Okunbor was imperious in the Sigerson before he got injured and he could be our answer when he comes back. Like Diarmuid he has the physique and the height for a midfielder, but also all the skills a modern midfielder needs. Where some players come back worse from the AFL, but some come back way better. Like Okunbor and Conor Glass. How we could do with Mark O'Connor now. Gavin White was quite incredible given that he just came back from injury. I'm quietly hopeful for the future as we have quite a young team still, a good underage structure that might keep the conveyor belt rolling. Like Dublin it is not good enough to have a good team, you need young talent as well to keep strengthening the team. I think we have that. In my honest opinion it is not so much a matter of will this team win the All Ireland, but more when. I'm still convinced Kerry should have won the 2019 final, and it was experience that won it for Dublin. 2020 was just stupidity, I still can't get over that game against Cork. 2021 as we know it was our bogey team again. Even though we were played away we came within a point of a draw due to individual brilliance. Sounds familiar? It doesn't look like we have learned the lessons from 2021 yet, but perhaps we have learned more from yesterday than we did last year. Let's look forwards and focus on the final. A game we can very much win in my opinion. Brilliant post Seoirse. Agree with nearly all of it, I was not too impressed by Tyrone, very effective, very workmanlike, but that's it really, they only know in how to play one way, I still regard them as the weakest winner of Sam last year since Cork in 2010. A lot of people agree with that. Yesterday, Our layoff passing, interplay, transitioning, kick passing is far superior to what they have,especially for Geaney's link up to his point in the First Half, I think they know that themselves. They are way more streets smart in the dark arts, game management is the number one strategy and big thing for Tyrone.
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Post by mike70 on Mar 28, 2022 18:56:02 GMT
Whether we like it or not Tyrone were again the fitter team, the better team, the more intelligent team and the more physical team. Yet, we still could have won that game due to the sheer brilliance of some players. We know exactly what we are getting from Tyrone, and we keep falling for it over and over, just like most of the country, otherwise they wouldn't be the All ireland Champions. Since the first game against Kildare just about 9 weeks ago we have been getting better and better in each game. We have fellas coming back and we have given quite a few of the panel some game time. Our big problem areas are still midfield and the goalkeeper. Shane Ryan is our main goalkeeper and while I don't want to say anything negative about Shane Murphy, it is more than clear that Ryan is ahead of him and we need to invest more time in Shane Ryan. Midfield is Diarmuid O'Connor and someone else. Preferably Jack Barry currently. Possibly with Joe O'Connor and David Moran depending on the opponents. Both Joe and David have come back from injury and might not last a full 70 minutes. Okunbor was imperious in the Sigerson before he got injured and he could be our answer when he comes back. Like Diarmuid he has the physique and the height for a midfielder, but also all the skills a modern midfielder needs. Where some players come back worse from the AFL, but some come back way better. Like Okunbor and Conor Glass. How we could do with Mark O'Connor now. Gavin White was quite incredible given that he just came back from injury. I'm quietly hopeful for the future as we have quite a young team still, a good underage structure that might keep the conveyor belt rolling. Like Dublin it is not good enough to have a good team, you need young talent as well to keep strengthening the team. I think we have that. In my honest opinion it is not so much a matter of will this team win the All Ireland, but more when. I'm still convinced Kerry should have won the 2019 final, and it was experience that won it for Dublin. 2020 was just stupidity, I still can't get over that game against Cork. 2021 as we know it was our bogey team again. Even though we were played away we came within a point of a draw due to individual brilliance. Sounds familiar? It doesn't look like we have learned the lessons from 2021 yet, but perhaps we have learned more from yesterday than we did last year. Let's look forwards and focus on the final. A game we can very much win in my opinion. [br Stefan did not burn a ball during sigerson ,he was anonymous in fairness, I watched the games that were streamed, not sure where your analysis is coming from, Stefan has a long way to go, we might see him during next year league, once he gets some games into him, he will be an asset but not this year.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 30, 2022 7:25:02 GMT
I agree with ballyfireside that odds on Tyrone to win the All Ireland at 9 to 1 are crazy. Kerry are 6 to 4.
Tyrone must have scored 6 points from the sort of intricate hand passing movement to stretch the defence. Maybe more than 6 even. Dylan Casey was really on a hiding to nothing as inch perfect passes were put into McCurrys hands and McCurry needs little space to turn and score. Should the defender play in front of McCurry....hard to know. Did Casey set up a point for DC in the first half?
Kerry managed it a few times but Kerry are not half as likely to score against a massed defence. Some attempts ended with it being hoofed away. DC tried a toe to hand at the end against a massed defense and lost possession.
Tyrone always seem capable of conjuring a goal when needed. Maybe Paddy Power is basing his odds on Tyrones historical poor attempt at retaining it.
Tyrone dont give away many needless scorable frees either. In the first half PG and DC went back into defence and both tried to tackle but just put out a straight arm to give away scorable frees. DC even got a yellow. I think it was Adrian that did something similar late on.
Typical Tyrone. Putrid against Dublin then win the last two games when needed.
If they put their minds to it they can retain the All Ireland i feel.
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 30, 2022 8:40:55 GMT
Away too much is being made of the result last Sunday. The main thing that is being overlooked is that, for the sake of experience, Kerry left a young player learning his trade one the best forwards in the game. In a game that Kerry could not afford to lose that would have been dealt with early on. A different game would have evolved.
The bookies know absolutely nothing about football, they are merely reacting to public opinion as manifested by bets put on.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 30, 2022 8:41:11 GMT
I decided to rewatch the 2005 final because it was still on the recorder and came away with the feeling that Tyrone are Tyrone. It's now 20 years that they play the way they play, whether we like it or not, and it has been successful for the county team, the clubs and so on. Even more so when they have their backs to the wall, they just love it. The more people write them off, the more people hate them, the better they get. We all know the old mantra about stupidity and repeating the same things over and and over respecting a different result. Tyrone are obviously of a different mindset and they are expecting the same result over and over. And to be honest they are getting those results. When they are in that mindset they can go 7 points down and the opposition are still panicking, because Tyrone aren't. How many games were they were played away and written off, only to come back and get a win or a draw. Even last year in Killarney where they still seemed to believe they could somehow win with 5 minutes to go. I would like to think that Paul Murphy or Dan O'Donoghue would have been better options for McCurry, if they had been fit, but McCurry is in the form of his life. Like David Clifford, you can put 4 men on him and he will still get you 4, 5 points. So, the obvious choice is to make sure there is no ball going into him. Tyrone made sure the Kerry forwards were living of scraps, and they still did well, and thus could just play away they want to play. Where Kerry seems to fail over and over and over is that we get sucked into that. You want to play physical? You want to play it hard? Fine, we'll reply. Yet, we don't have that kind of team, we don't have the same mindset. Wow also don't have a Niall Morgan who is arguably now the best goalkeeper in Ireland, next to Rory Beggan, if not a wee bit better. Compared with a very confident midfield, and loading that midfield with players, Tyrone had a platform to win most of their kickouts, if not all, and most of the breaking ball on Kerry's kickouts.
So, what's the lesson we learned from 2003, 2005, 2008, 2021? I don't think we learned it yet. The lesson should be not to come up with a plan to stop Tyrone, but to have a plan of our own and stick to that.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 30, 2022 9:45:51 GMT
Away too much is being made of the result last Sunday. The main thing that is being overlooked is that, for the sake of experience, Kerry left a young player learning his trade one the best forwards in the game. In a game that Kerry could not afford to lose that would have been dealt with early on. A different game would have evolved. The bookies know absolutely nothing about football, they are merely reacting to public opinion as manifested by bets put on. Totally agree Tom sull wouldve been on mccurry if it was a match we needed to win. I also love this narrative re everytime Tyrone beat us it's like kerry can't beat Tyrone etc as if 2012,2015 and 2019 never happened not to mind all the league games we have beaten them in that was there first win in kerry since 2003! Coupled with them being jacks bogey team one win one loss! The laziness of reporting I find funny
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 10:52:42 GMT
Away too much is being made of the result last Sunday. The main thing that is being overlooked is that, for the sake of experience, Kerry left a young player learning his trade one the best forwards in the game. In a game that Kerry could not afford to lose that would have been dealt with early on. A different game would have evolved. The bookies know absolutely nothing about football, they are merely reacting to public opinion as manifested by bets put on. Totally agree Tom sull wouldve been on mccurry if it was a match we needed to win. I also love this narrative re everytime Tyrone beat us it's like kerry can't beat Tyrone etc as if 2012,2015 and 2019 never happened not to mind all the league games we have beaten them in that was there first win in kerry since 2003! Coupled with them being jacks bogey team one win one loss! The laziness of reporting I find funny Ya they love to build up these rivalrys, like the new thing now is we haven't beaten Mayo in Croke Park since 2011, I didn't know that and I don't know any 1 else who knew this but the media are running with it big time, instead of saying in the Last 11 years we have beaten Mayo 3 times in the championship and Mayo have beaten us 1 time and we had 2 draws.
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Post by taggert on Mar 30, 2022 11:18:08 GMT
Some very good posts here on both sides of the coin. I think Tyrone are a really really effective side and as Mickmack said, have this knack of being able to plunder a goal when the need is greatest. Thrice they did against us in Croker. They are just so comfortable in how they play and rarely need to change their tactics. They thrive in tight games and it doesn't matter a jot to them if they dont score for large swathes of games, if it is 3 points each at HT, as long as they are in a space to win any game with 5 minutes to go. Much of this of course is learned behaviour from tight, uncompromising and unyielding Ulster Championship clashes. I used the word effective above as they are not entirely my cup of tea in terms of how the game should be played but I respect them as one of the top teams in the country right now because they are/will be so hard to beat.
I think Seoirse is on to something talking about not having a plan to stop Tyrone but having our own plan that we stick to. Much of Tyrone's effectiveness is predicated on sticking to their own system and apologies for the JG mantra but trusting the process. Its clear that rocking up on a given day with a new or untested system against Tyrone would almost definitely result in a loss. Here's hoping Kerry have a system/process for later in the summer that they are comfortable with but more importantly brings Tyrone et al out of their respective comfort zones and game plans.
Perhaps Sunday was about Kerry giving little or nothing away should we meet again soon, much like Tyrone did in last years league encounter. I think this is true to a degree as both Kerryexile and DC84 both rightly point out regarding the chastening experience of Dylan Casey. I think bringing certainty to our goalkeeper and midfield berths come championship will go some way towards having our own game plan about how we go about our business. Another tight game on Sunday - like the bread and butter of an Ulster championship encounter would do us no harm at all.
We need to be like Tyrone come championship - more than the sum of our parts.....
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Post by dano on Mar 30, 2022 17:56:43 GMT
I had a feeling that all our victories over Tyrone since 2008 would be overshadowed by last years 1 point SF win by them over us. Dylan Casey, I suspect will treat last Sunday, and respond to it in the same way,as Tyrone collectively did to last year's drubbing in killarney.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 30, 2022 18:17:33 GMT
I dont Tyrone has an indian over Kerry in championship football and i dont think the reverse is true either.
In my opinion the better team won in all meetings in the championship since the modern rivalry started in 2003.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 30, 2022 18:40:59 GMT
From being over the hedge from our Lamb Deargs and crossing into enemy territory on occasion to watch a club game, I feel the one thing they have is that they tend to recruit a meaner candidate for inter-county battles.
The GAA culture probably means more to them and which is ore to do with their history, and not anything we have wrong.
One thing I will say is that they like Kerry, back in the day when things were tight they used to go to each others houses after the pub and turn on a video of an AI final.
And conversation wise all Ulster supporters and pure panto - one minute you are dealing with a saintly sort of a latchico, then you innocently voice admiration for some aspect of another Ulster team and next thing the Fs and Ss start flying out of nowhere - here I am laughing as I recall various instances down the years. I've been around the block a bit myself in the arts and I just can't get my head around this, ah I'd often get 'em going too but it doesn't take much - the hoors could frighten you at times as you wouldn't be sure if things might go to another level but no, they cool down as quick as they revved up.
The other angle is the women, some of 'em could teach the best of us, even younger girls - it is nice and then you have 5 - 10 year olds who'd go through you for a short cut.
Yerra, just a bit nostalgic really, had some great moments with them, best of all at Kerry games. And Paul Galvin has as many fans in Tyrone as he has in Kerry, they have angles on him that we wouldn't have seen - and they adore his fashion designs, yip, ah that's the youth for you. There are many bright days up ahead once this world settles down a bit.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 30, 2022 21:06:13 GMT
I dont Tyrone has an indian over Kerry in championship football and i dont think the reverse is true either. In my opinion the better team won in all meetings in the championship since the modern rivalry started in 2003. Don't think personally they were the better team in 08, think it was just a bit of bad luck on our part that day esp with Declan's goal chance.
Would agree in all the other encounters the best team won, no doubt last August we beat ourselves.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 30, 2022 21:42:49 GMT
I dont Tyrone has an indian over Kerry in championship football and i dont think the reverse is true either. In my opinion the better team won in all meetings in the championship since the modern rivalry started in 2003. Don't think personally they were the better team in 08, think it was just a bit of bad luck on our part that day esp with Declan's goal chance. Would agree in all the other encounters the best team won, no doubt last August we beat ourselves.
They imposed their game on us in 2008. We manfully hung in there. In Killarney in 2010 and in 2019 they didnt impose their game on us...not for the full game anyway. After about the first 5 minutes of last years game they seemed to have us sussed out. I got the impression that they could manufacture a goal whenever they needed one. They kept serious scoring firepower in reserve till the second half whereas we didnt have much scoring power coming off the bench.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 31, 2022 21:06:02 GMT
Dungannon Clarkes attacker Paul Donaghy has become the latest player to exit the Tyrone squad as they continue preparations for their Ulster Championship clash with Fermanagh.
The All-Ireland champions travel to Brewster Park to face the Erne County on 16 April, and Donaghy is just one of a number of players who will no longer be present from last year's Sam Maguire winning squad, reports the Belfast Telegraph.
Ronan O’Neill, Mark Bradley, Lee Brennan, Tiernan McCann, Hugh Pat McGeary and Michael O’Neill had all previously departed Feargal Logan and Brian Dooher’s squad. There was further bad news as it has been confirmed that Mattie Donnelly picked up a hamstring injury in Sunday’s impressive Allianz Football League win over Kerry.
Donaghy memorably scored ten points on his Tyrone debut in May 2021, a National League loss to Donegal, and he came off the bench in the All-Ireland final win over Mayo last September.
The player started in the win over Kildare and the loss to Donegal in this year's league as well as making a further three substitute appearances.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 21:40:54 GMT
Dungannon Clarkes attacker Paul Donaghy has become the latest player to exit the Tyrone squad as they continue preparations for their Ulster Championship clash with Fermanagh. The All-Ireland champions travel to Brewster Park to face the Erne County on 16 April, and Donaghy is just one of a number of players who will no longer be present from last year's Sam Maguire winning squad, reports the Belfast Telegraph. Ronan O’Neill, Mark Bradley, Lee Brennan, Tiernan McCann, Hugh Pat McGeary and Michael O’Neill had all previously departed Feargal Logan and Brian Dooher’s squad. There was further bad news as it has been confirmed that Mattie Donnelly picked up a hamstring injury in Sunday’s impressive Allianz Football League win over Kerry. Donaghy memorably scored ten points on his Tyrone debut in May 2021, a National League loss to Donegal, and he came off the bench in the All-Ireland final win over Mayo last September. The player started in the win over Kildare and the loss to Donegal in this year's league as well as making a further three substitute appearances. it's hard to keep fellas on the fringes happy these days eventhough they'd be in with a chance of winning the allireland.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 31, 2022 22:00:16 GMT
The thing you'd imagine would be concerning for Tyrone is that these lads may not be starters but they certainly give you a good bench.
Their first 15 is solid as we saw on Sunday but it was their bench that won it for them last year.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 31, 2022 22:05:15 GMT
Dungannon Clarkes attacker Paul Donaghy has become the latest player to exit the Tyrone squad Ronan O’Neill, Mark Bradley, Lee Brennan, Tiernan McCann, Hugh Pat McGeary and Michael O’Neill had all previously departed Feargal Logan and Brian Dooher’s squad. I thought Michael oNeill was good v Kerry last year. And it was Tiernan McCann that was wresting with JB for that high ball that led to the 3rd goal. There must be something up in the camp all the same
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Post by thepromisedland on Mar 31, 2022 22:08:53 GMT
Tyrone are masters of game management in close encounters. It's highly effective, even if it won't gain them any friends or win them any fair play awards. But they won't care. It's win at all costs. They are the most despised county in Ulster, thats coming from people from many other counties up there, They are workmanlike, terrific unit for the cause. But they are overrated in many ways I feel. They are a one trick pony, slbeit, an excellent one. They won't win high scoring games, as they only really know to play one way. They'll win no All-Ireland this year, as they are consistently inconsistent, they are incapable of doing back to back. They remind me of and an excellent guerrilla warfare side, but are useless in open warfare, high battle, high ammunition warfare. I really respected their noughties team. Last year's All-Ireland won by themselves in the final against a very disappointing Mayo, again was won fairly. Still Tyrone, the 2021 All-Ireland Championship winner's will go down as the weakest winners since Cork 2010, in a poor final v Down. Most people tend to agree with that summarisation. That's my personal overall view anyway.
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