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Post by bishop on Mar 26, 2022 19:27:07 GMT
Ya, strong team while also giving time to Shane Murphy, Dylan, Graham Sull and Jack Savage, great to see the big Stacks lad lead out his team on home soil, I was thinking when was the last time two Rockies lined out with Kerry, was thinking it was back to the golden years but then remembered 1997 with Pa Laide and William Kirby. Anyway great to see Jack mix experience with fringe players eager to impress. I take it Kerry will be giving the customary guard of honour to visiting all Ireland champions, well I hope they do, it’s one very respectful tradition I would like to see honored. Ronan Shanahan and Star in 2016/2017? Bohane and Star in '08 another one. Remember Bohane coming on to play full back to mark Joe Bergin in that famous downpour in Croker V Galway |
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Post by dc84 on Mar 26, 2022 19:41:17 GMT
Bohane was brilliant that day when introduced. It was the first time the fllodlights were turned on in croke park for a day game. A classic game in horrendous rain. That and armagh in 06 are two of my favourite kerry matches. |
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Post by thehermit on Mar 26, 2022 19:54:15 GMT
My mobile never worked again after the walk from Croker back to a pub in O'Connell St after the game. The rain was that bad it got destroyed with water, even though it was in my jeans pocket. My match program got fused together too, I think I still have it in the collection but it will never open again  Bohane was brilliant that day, as was Meehan for Galway. Coming out of it I thought both were destined to be stars. Injuries unfortunately really destroyed what should have been two brilliant inter-county careers. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 26, 2022 21:02:27 GMT
My mobile never worked again after the walk from Croker back to a pub in O'Connell St after the game. The rain was that bad it got destroyed with water, even though it was in my jeans pocket. My match program got fused together too, I think I still have it in the collection but it will never open again Bohane was brilliant that day, as was Meehan for Galway. Coming out of it I thought both were destined to be stars. Injuries unfortunately really destroyed what should have been two brilliant inter-county careers. Don't think I've been so soaked at a game, although Kerry and Cork in 2014 or 15 in Killarney wouldn't be far off it. That day of the Galway game a car load of us stopped in the Tipp Inn in Toomevara for grub and a pint and ended up half gate crashing a 21st ... it was getting bright by the time we crossed the NK border.. still soaked. |
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Post by fitz on Mar 26, 2022 22:07:00 GMT
My mobile never worked again after the walk from Croker back to a pub in O'Connell St after the game. The rain was that bad it got destroyed with water, even though it was in my jeans pocket. My match program got fused together too, I think I still have it in the collection but it will never open again Bohane was brilliant that day, as was Meehan for Galway. Coming out of it I thought both were destined to be stars. Injuries unfortunately really destroyed what should have been two brilliant inter-county careers. Meehan scored 10 points that day |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2022 22:50:53 GMT
My biggest problem with Michael Burns is that he tends to be a little hotheaded , being confrontational even after getting his free. Regarding Pat Spillane, it’s a shame if he will be remembered more for his attention seeking, cringe inducing comments rather than for the fact that he was a brilliant footballer. I have given up reading him and Joe Brolly. I feel Eamon Fitzmaurice is the most informative co-commentator on RTÉ . Writes with the same authority as well. the worst pundits for me were Tommy Carr and Liam Hayes, 2 desperados. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2022 0:05:26 GMT
Kingdomboy I cannot disagree with you there. I have no problem with a bit of bias (we all have a bit). I think Kev McStay is excellent and I think he has no love of Kerry but he praises when he should. T. Carr and L. Hayes could nt hide their dislike of Kerry and were blinded by it.I was actually talking to a rte presenter in a pub a good few years ago and he had spoken on radio with Tommy Carr that day and he even said to me that is was so obvious Carr had a serious dislike of Kerry by his comments. Ya the 2 lads were gas, when I watched the semifinal replay against Mayo back om the telly you could here the disappointment quite clearly in Tommy carrs voice. I remember driving up to the Galway game in 2008 and being diverted around Newcastle West because they had a flash flood a couple of days earlier that put the town under water and some of the road going through the town had fallen into the river. That game was the wettest I was ever at, we were soaked right through after about 5 minutes but I remember the weather for the Armagh v wexford game was lovely. I remember they closed off Jones's Road after the game but we were walking in about 6 inches of water back towards O'connell Street. Great times though. Wasn't there a land slide north of Tralee a few weeks later! Strange weather that year. |
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 27, 2022 0:08:10 GMT
Pat Spillane, as a footballer was one of the greats of all time. He had it all as a forward.
Over the years I agreed with a lot of what he said as a pundit. Traditionally there was a purity about football and teams were measured within that culture. Then a soccorised version of the game emerged from Ulster - lateral passing, passing back to the keeper, the "Sean Kavanagh" foul, sweepers etc etc. I agreed with Pat being very critical of this game.
In recent times Pat has been working on extending his longevity as a pundit, having loads of statistics and making himself into a Dunphy/Hook type of character.
Another thing that is clear is Pat's attitude to Jack O'Connor. Jack said in his book that when he was first appointed as senior manager Pat's comment on the Sunday Game was that Kerry had appointed a manager whose last game was a defeat by Waterford at U21 level. Clearly it went deep with Jack if he put it in his book years later. Now Pat has 2 nephews in the Kerry squad and he wants them to get game time. He is now constantly talking very flatteringly about Jack. It may work - Jack is not always objective in his decision making - again from his book (Tom O'Sullivan being dropped).
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Post by kingdomkerry on Mar 27, 2022 7:17:51 GMT
Anyone know the story with tickets. Went online to buy one this morning but when I select the game it says "page not found" Do they not sell on the day of the game?
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Post by Deise Exile on Mar 27, 2022 8:01:02 GMT
I can't get in either
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 27, 2022 8:25:00 GMT
Pat Spillane, as a footballer was one of the greats of all time. He had it all as a forward. Over the years I agreed with a lot of what he said as a pundit. Traditionally there was a purity about football and teams were measured within that culture. Then a soccorised version of the game emerged from Ulster - lateral passing, passing back to the keeper, the "Sean Kavanagh" foul, sweepers etc etc. I agreed with Pat being very critical of this game. Pat is either against that type of game or he is not. The final point by Kilcoo v St Finbarrs came after about 3 minutes of passing...backwards....forwards....sideways....crab like movements...... it ended with an opening and a point. Pat made special mention of it saying was 'brilliant'. (i agreed). But for the next game he was rubbishing such type of play. It always amazes me that so many people from other counties see him as some sort of ambassador on behalf of Kerry speaking on behalf of us all. I often find myself saying that i hardly ever agree with him and that he doesnt represent all Kerry people. |
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Post by john4 on Mar 27, 2022 8:29:11 GMT
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Post by john4 on Mar 27, 2022 8:29:37 GMT
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 27, 2022 8:43:32 GMT
Anyone know the story with tickets. Went online to buy one this morning but when I select the game it says "page not found" Do they not sell on the day of the game? I can't travel, but have a season ticket. I can send you the screenshot of it. Just a QR code you need to scan. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 27, 2022 8:49:25 GMT
Anyone know the story with tickets. Went online to buy one this morning but when I select the game it says "page not found" Do they not sell on the day of the game? I can't travel, but have a season ticket. I can send you the screenshot of it. Just a QR code you need to scan. Likewise I can send on mine too as I can't travel. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2022 10:09:31 GMT
I rarely find myself agreeing with Spillane either but is amazing how a comment from Spillane is latched onto by people compared to comments from other pundits. The puke football comment was made in 2003 and not only did he apologise for, he also at some stage described a Kerry performance in the same manner.
Plenty of pundits have made silly comments over the years but none of them have entered the lexicon the way that Spillanes comments have.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 27, 2022 10:16:53 GMT
I find Pat a man who knows his football and loves to talk about it. He has a real grá for it and he seems to think about football constantly. Of course, he sometimes says things without thinking first. Brolly is a barrister, trained in thinking first and making an argument second, and even he had many outbursts.
All pundits wear their hearts on their sleeves as they are chosen because of their love for the game.
One thing you cannot say about Pat is that he doesn't love the game and he has more than once help up his hands and apologised when he went to far.
A lot of his analyses are spot on and unfortunately not many people give him credit for that, because they are entirely focused on trying to catch him out.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 27, 2022 10:38:37 GMT
My biggest problem with Michael Burns is that he tends to be a little hotheaded , being confrontational even after getting his free. Regarding Pat Spillane, it’s a shame if he will be remembered more for his attention seeking, cringe inducing comments rather than for the fact that he was a brilliant footballer. I have given up reading him and Joe Brolly. I feel Eamon Fitzmaurice is the most informative co-commentator on RTÉ . Writes with the same authority as well. PatS like Brolly suffer from occupational hazard, i.e. their occupation moulds their thinking - PatS can be bossy and maybe a bit opinionated though it is opinions he is paid for. Brolly as a barrister picks holes and often against the tide, though both their hearts are in the right place. There is no such thing as a perfect pundit but I must say I learn from PatS and he spots things that others don't. I think he'd make a great manager, his commitment alone would make a great connection with players and they'd do it for him if not themselves, could be moments of panto though, I'd say he'd shade Paidí in that respect! Wasn't he disregarded from management by TCB due to his pundit role? After what Tommy Carr did to Maurice Fitz in Thurles as he went to take a free, I could never listen to him as he has no credibility IMO. Yes, Éamonn is very good, gives an overview while being spot on with detail. And remember he has hinted that there is more to come from Tyrone - I know I go on a bit on this but 9/1 on them looks conspicuous to me but only time will tell. 6 laddos walking is very UnTyrone, what are the odds I wonder of the 6 of them winning AI medals in 2022 - maybe I'll be able to afford that villa in Barbados after all? |
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Post by dc84 on Mar 27, 2022 10:54:25 GMT
I rarely find myself agreeing with Spillane either but is amazing how a comment from Spillane is latched onto by people compared to comments from other pundits. The puke football comment was made in 2003 and not only did he apologise for, he also at some stage described a Kerry performance in the same manner. Plenty of pundits have made silly comments over the years but none of them have entered the lexicon the way that Spillanes comments have. He wasn't wrong about the puke football either once teams realised that refs were going to allow 3 men plus tackling the man with the ball the likes of a Donegal 15 man defence was a logical end game. Things have improved since thankfully and I am struggling to think of a successful team in any sport at the moment who play negative stuff. Long may it last |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 27, 2022 11:31:57 GMT
That's Tyrones strongest 15 named anyway.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 27, 2022 11:52:58 GMT
Should be a good test for our lads Tyrone have to come out all guns blazing dont want to lose to anyone in killarney come on Kerry !
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Post by mike70 on Mar 27, 2022 12:10:38 GMT
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Post by mike70 on Mar 27, 2022 12:11:29 GMT
Serious team named by Tyrone they want to stay in div 1
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Mar 27, 2022 12:30:45 GMT
This will be a tough test for a lot of these lads
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Post by thehermit on Mar 27, 2022 13:38:29 GMT
Why are RK talking about Tyrone being Jack's "bogey" team - from what I recall he faced them twice in the championship as Kerry manager - lost one and won one. It was Paidi in 03, O'Shea in 08 and Keane in 21!
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Post by thehermit on Mar 27, 2022 14:28:48 GMT
Disappointing result, seems like no-one had the bottle to take a shot on with the last two Kerry attacks. Sounded also like the Tyrone we know and, er, love, was out in spades.
Looking forward to hearing the match reports by everyone later.
Mayo v Kerry final, should be another stiff test looking forward to it. Sounds like there's plenty for us to work on judging by Radio Kerry's take on the game.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 27, 2022 14:29:15 GMT
Fair play to Monaghan by the way, but they should never have let things get that tight!!
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Post by thepope on Mar 27, 2022 14:32:24 GMT
Have we answered any of the issues we carried over from last year's championship?
Doesn't look like it. To be fair, maybe the answers aren't there with what we have.
Keeper still an issue.
Midfield has disappeared for entire halves over a number of games.
Spread of scores still not there when the heat is on. Clifford and O'Shea still carry the scoring burden. (some hope with Brosnan but we'll see how that plays out in summer)
Can we work a scoring opportunity when the game is there to be won or will we turn ball over stupidly? Can we dictate the pace of a tight game, working the ball through the hands?
Place us as maybe 4th in line for Sam.
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Post by onlykerry on Mar 27, 2022 14:38:42 GMT
Well we got a tight game and had a look at several players that are chasing spots on the championship team - disappointing to lose at home but the game meant a lot to Tyrone and very little (other than pride) for us.
We hammered these guys last year but ended the year disappointed so the key thing is what have we learnt from the encounter. Did any of the peripheral players do anything of note? Dylan seemed to be skinned for the goal, a big learning day for him. How did Joe O Connor do at midfield? Jack Savage made way at HT suggesting he was not showing much and our keeper seemed hesitant under high balls punching rather than gathering it - then again Radio Kerry's version of a game is not always what those in attendance see.
Monaghan nearly let Dublin out of jail with some very poor shooting.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 27, 2022 14:40:23 GMT
Have we answered any of the issues we carried over from last year's championship? Doesn't look like it. To be fair, maybe the answers aren't there with what we have. Keeper still an issue. Midfield has disappeared for entire halves over a number of games. Spread of scores still not there when the heat is on. Clifford and O'Shea still carry the scoring burden. (some hope with Brosnan but we'll see how that plays out in summer) Can we work a scoring opportunity when the game is there to be won or will we turn ball over stupidly? Can we dictate the pace of a tight game, working the ball through the hands? Place us as maybe 4th in line for Sam. I think some of that is a little harsh, we have shown an ability to win games at the death in this League already.
I raised my own fears about our Midfield disappearing last Sunday, would like to know from people there what was the story in today's second half.
Big test now next Sunday against a team that will be confident they can beat us. The performance and result should tell us a lot more about where we are at.
Remember too there was nothing really riding on today, a draw or 1 point loss was immaterial to us.
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