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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2022 11:31:27 GMT
Jack O Connor has again cleverly used his panel and is nicely building a strong panel for the championship A versus B games in the weeks ahead should be interesting . Burns has done well in all the games he has come on in and unlike some commentators on here he deserves his start yes he was not great against Kildare the first day but about 10 players were below usual standard that day .It will be interesting what team jack picks for the league final especially if he has a full team to pick from .It appears that 4 or 5 of the forwards are settled but not so sure about the backs he has a good few options and choices to pick from there . Hoping for another tough game tomorrow as a repeat of last year of no benefit to this team . Burns seems to be the new BJK on here, a perennial target for criticism. sorry southward but Burns is no BJK, BJK contributed more to the team,. I don't like criticising Burns but we have to call a spade a spade here, which is he hasn't performed well in the majority of the games he's played in, he has a habit of when he gets the ball which is to hold on to it for as long as possible to see if he can get a score, in the mean time lads inside are bursting them selves making runs and no ball coming in, this is not the game jack wants to play, Jack wants fast ball into the forwards. We all saw what Stephen ó Brien did for Clifford's goal last week, posters said on here during the week that Stephen has changed his game to suit Jack's style of play now let's see if Burns can do likewise. I hope I'm wrong about Burns and that he'll make me eat my words, I really do, but I won't hold my breath. |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Mar 26, 2022 11:32:55 GMT
Burns has done alright when used? He could do with a good performance on Sunday and for some reason I think he’ll give us one.
The pitch and the conditions will suit him
I’d put him in the same boat as Killian Spillane, he’s been given a good few opportunities and never fully taken them so he needs to show us something but I think he can
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 26, 2022 11:46:45 GMT
Maybe Burns is showing in training and Jack is persevering, if he breaks his duck it wont be any harm when the heat is on. he could be flying in training bally but he needs to start showing it for Kerry now or is he as we'd say back here, "only a great man in his own haggart" Funny a man can be a hero in his own haggart, where nobody can see him? - but not in his homeplace, and then there are his Fairweather Friends. Anyway re the comments above on Tyrone and which are reasonable, it's becoming philosophical and which isn't helped by the necessary evil that is 'closed doors training' - and that is all before we start predicting the future. I suppose the nub of it is, will we go for it tomorrow? - I think we will - and that's my prediction of the future, Kerry to score the 1st and last of 3 goals in the game and win by 5 pts - countdown, final answer. Still Tyrone at 9/1 for Sam defies logic, who's to say the 6 who walked away won't turn back? They U turned from that famous walk in Killarney National Park last year - took us for a walk, led us up the garden path, of our own haggart, our own backyard, came in the front door and haunted us our of our own house! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2022 11:59:40 GMT
Burns has done alright when used? He could do with a good performance on Sunday and for some reason I think he’ll give us one. The pitch and the conditions will suit him I’d put him in the same boat as Killian Spillane, he’s been given a good few opportunities and never fully taken them so he needs to show us something but I think he can I hope you're right and best of luck to him and all the lads tomorrow. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Mar 26, 2022 12:02:25 GMT
I think we will go for it but only cos its a home game. I think if it was in Omagh a different team would have been named. Tyrone won't want to go down though. It will be interesting to see who we get in final.
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Post by veteran on Mar 26, 2022 13:33:32 GMT
My biggest problem with Michael Burns is that he tends to be a little hotheaded , being confrontational even after getting his free.
Regarding Pat Spillane, it’s a shame if he will be remembered more for his attention seeking, cringe inducing comments rather than for the fact that he was a brilliant footballer. I have given up reading him and Joe Brolly.
I feel Eamon Fitzmaurice is the most informative co-commentator on RTÉ . Writes with the same authority as well.
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Post by augustafield on Mar 26, 2022 13:52:59 GMT
A guard of honour for Tyrone ? Are we stupid ? Well we were last
year in falling for their gamesmanship not on one but two occassions
and now we want to applaud them for hoodwinking us with their so called
Covid issues . We have lost the tag ' cute hoors ' but it wouldnt be too
hard to imagine what we'd be called if we clapped them onto the pitch .
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Post by ciarraimick on Mar 26, 2022 15:14:10 GMT
Veteran. Well said. Pat was the best half forward I've ever seen but he is now known by youngsters for his over the top punditry. Also agree Fitzmaurice is excellent as a pundit
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Post by Aodhan on Mar 26, 2022 18:30:43 GMT
Veteran. Well said. Pat was the best half forward I've ever seen but he is now known by youngsters for his over the top punditry. Also agree Fitzmaurice is excellent as a pundit It is best for some to go quietly into the night. Unfortunately and unfairly Pat has somewhat sullied his reputation as one of the best forwards to ever play the game. At times he comes out with embarrassing stuff, he seems to speak before he thinks. Outsiders unjustly consider him the voice of Kerry GAA. On a positive note his has remained humble and is well liked within his community. Big plus there but it’s well past time for him to retire. Then we have Sean Kavanagh, who has a massive dislike for Pat and seemingly hates everything Kerry. Humble is one word that cannot be associated with him. Soon enough his great football career will be forgotten. Too much public scrutiny can be so unforgiving. |
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Post by bishop on Mar 26, 2022 19:27:07 GMT
Ya, strong team while also giving time to Shane Murphy, Dylan, Graham Sull and Jack Savage, great to see the big Stacks lad lead out his team on home soil, I was thinking when was the last time two Rockies lined out with Kerry, was thinking it was back to the golden years but then remembered 1997 with Pa Laide and William Kirby. Anyway great to see Jack mix experience with fringe players eager to impress. I take it Kerry will be giving the customary guard of honour to visiting all Ireland champions, well I hope they do, it’s one very respectful tradition I would like to see honored. Ronan Shanahan and Star in 2016/2017? Bohane and Star in '08 another one. Remember Bohane coming on to play full back to mark Joe Bergin in that famous downpour in Croker V Galway |
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Post by ciarraimick on Mar 26, 2022 19:35:00 GMT
Bohane was brilliant that day when introduced. It was the first time the fllodlights were turned on in croke park for a day game. A classic game in horrendous rain.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 26, 2022 19:41:17 GMT
Bohane was brilliant that day when introduced. It was the first time the fllodlights were turned on in croke park for a day game. A classic game in horrendous rain. That and armagh in 06 are two of my favourite kerry matches. |
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Post by thehermit on Mar 26, 2022 19:54:15 GMT
My mobile never worked again after the walk from Croker back to a pub in O'Connell St after the game. The rain was that bad it got destroyed with water, even though it was in my jeans pocket. My match program got fused together too, I think I still have it in the collection but it will never open again  Bohane was brilliant that day, as was Meehan for Galway. Coming out of it I thought both were destined to be stars. Injuries unfortunately really destroyed what should have been two brilliant inter-county careers. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 26, 2022 21:02:27 GMT
My mobile never worked again after the walk from Croker back to a pub in O'Connell St after the game. The rain was that bad it got destroyed with water, even though it was in my jeans pocket. My match program got fused together too, I think I still have it in the collection but it will never open again Bohane was brilliant that day, as was Meehan for Galway. Coming out of it I thought both were destined to be stars. Injuries unfortunately really destroyed what should have been two brilliant inter-county careers. Don't think I've been so soaked at a game, although Kerry and Cork in 2014 or 15 in Killarney wouldn't be far off it. That day of the Galway game a car load of us stopped in the Tipp Inn in Toomevara for grub and a pint and ended up half gate crashing a 21st ... it was getting bright by the time we crossed the NK border.. still soaked. |
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Post by fitz on Mar 26, 2022 22:07:00 GMT
My mobile never worked again after the walk from Croker back to a pub in O'Connell St after the game. The rain was that bad it got destroyed with water, even though it was in my jeans pocket. My match program got fused together too, I think I still have it in the collection but it will never open again Bohane was brilliant that day, as was Meehan for Galway. Coming out of it I thought both were destined to be stars. Injuries unfortunately really destroyed what should have been two brilliant inter-county careers. Meehan scored 10 points that day |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2022 22:50:53 GMT
My biggest problem with Michael Burns is that he tends to be a little hotheaded , being confrontational even after getting his free. Regarding Pat Spillane, it’s a shame if he will be remembered more for his attention seeking, cringe inducing comments rather than for the fact that he was a brilliant footballer. I have given up reading him and Joe Brolly. I feel Eamon Fitzmaurice is the most informative co-commentator on RTÉ . Writes with the same authority as well. the worst pundits for me were Tommy Carr and Liam Hayes, 2 desperados. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Mar 26, 2022 23:15:16 GMT
Kingdomboy I cannot disagree with you there. I have no problem with a bit of bias (we all have a bit). I think Kev McStay is excellent and I think he has no love of Kerry but he praises when he should. T. Carr and L. Hayes could nt hide their dislike of Kerry and were blinded by it.I was actually talking to a rte presenter in a pub a good few years ago and he had spoken on radio with Tommy Carr that day and he even said to me that is was so obvious Carr had a serious dislike of Kerry by his comments.
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Post by ciarraimick on Mar 26, 2022 23:18:43 GMT
I ve got wet at many a game including 15 final v Dublin but 08 v Galway was the worst I think. They had to close some roads near croker due to the serious downpour. Its very depressing g leaving a game soaked when you lose but a victory makes the soaking so worthwhile. I headed for rake of pints afterwards so alls well that ends well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2022 0:05:26 GMT
Kingdomboy I cannot disagree with you there. I have no problem with a bit of bias (we all have a bit). I think Kev McStay is excellent and I think he has no love of Kerry but he praises when he should. T. Carr and L. Hayes could nt hide their dislike of Kerry and were blinded by it.I was actually talking to a rte presenter in a pub a good few years ago and he had spoken on radio with Tommy Carr that day and he even said to me that is was so obvious Carr had a serious dislike of Kerry by his comments. Ya the 2 lads were gas, when I watched the semifinal replay against Mayo back om the telly you could here the disappointment quite clearly in Tommy carrs voice. I remember driving up to the Galway game in 2008 and being diverted around Newcastle West because they had a flash flood a couple of days earlier that put the town under water and some of the road going through the town had fallen into the river. That game was the wettest I was ever at, we were soaked right through after about 5 minutes but I remember the weather for the Armagh v wexford game was lovely. I remember they closed off Jones's Road after the game but we were walking in about 6 inches of water back towards O'connell Street. Great times though. Wasn't there a land slide north of Tralee a few weeks later! Strange weather that year. |
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Post by kerryexile on Mar 27, 2022 0:08:10 GMT
Pat Spillane, as a footballer was one of the greats of all time. He had it all as a forward.
Over the years I agreed with a lot of what he said as a pundit. Traditionally there was a purity about football and teams were measured within that culture. Then a soccorised version of the game emerged from Ulster - lateral passing, passing back to the keeper, the "Sean Kavanagh" foul, sweepers etc etc. I agreed with Pat being very critical of this game.
In recent times Pat has been working on extending his longevity as a pundit, having loads of statistics and making himself into a Dunphy/Hook type of character.
Another thing that is clear is Pat's attitude to Jack O'Connor. Jack said in his book that when he was first appointed as senior manager Pat's comment on the Sunday Game was that Kerry had appointed a manager whose last game was a defeat by Waterford at U21 level. Clearly it went deep with Jack if he put it in his book years later. Now Pat has 2 nephews in the Kerry squad and he wants them to get game time. He is now constantly talking very flatteringly about Jack. It may work - Jack is not always objective in his decision making - again from his book (Tom O'Sullivan being dropped).
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Post by kingdomkerry on Mar 27, 2022 7:17:51 GMT
Anyone know the story with tickets. Went online to buy one this morning but when I select the game it says "page not found" Do they not sell on the day of the game?
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Post by Deise Exile on Mar 27, 2022 8:01:02 GMT
I can't get in either
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 27, 2022 8:25:00 GMT
Pat Spillane, as a footballer was one of the greats of all time. He had it all as a forward. Over the years I agreed with a lot of what he said as a pundit. Traditionally there was a purity about football and teams were measured within that culture. Then a soccorised version of the game emerged from Ulster - lateral passing, passing back to the keeper, the "Sean Kavanagh" foul, sweepers etc etc. I agreed with Pat being very critical of this game. Pat is either against that type of game or he is not. The final point by Kilcoo v St Finbarrs came after about 3 minutes of passing...backwards....forwards....sideways....crab like movements...... it ended with an opening and a point. Pat made special mention of it saying was 'brilliant'. (i agreed). But for the next game he was rubbishing such type of play. It always amazes me that so many people from other counties see him as some sort of ambassador on behalf of Kerry speaking on behalf of us all. I often find myself saying that i hardly ever agree with him and that he doesnt represent all Kerry people. |
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Post by john4 on Mar 27, 2022 8:29:11 GMT
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Post by john4 on Mar 27, 2022 8:29:37 GMT
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 27, 2022 8:43:32 GMT
Anyone know the story with tickets. Went online to buy one this morning but when I select the game it says "page not found" Do they not sell on the day of the game? I can't travel, but have a season ticket. I can send you the screenshot of it. Just a QR code you need to scan. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 27, 2022 8:49:25 GMT
Anyone know the story with tickets. Went online to buy one this morning but when I select the game it says "page not found" Do they not sell on the day of the game? I can't travel, but have a season ticket. I can send you the screenshot of it. Just a QR code you need to scan. Likewise I can send on mine too as I can't travel. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2022 10:09:31 GMT
I rarely find myself agreeing with Spillane either but is amazing how a comment from Spillane is latched onto by people compared to comments from other pundits. The puke football comment was made in 2003 and not only did he apologise for, he also at some stage described a Kerry performance in the same manner.
Plenty of pundits have made silly comments over the years but none of them have entered the lexicon the way that Spillanes comments have.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 27, 2022 10:16:53 GMT
I find Pat a man who knows his football and loves to talk about it. He has a real grá for it and he seems to think about football constantly. Of course, he sometimes says things without thinking first. Brolly is a barrister, trained in thinking first and making an argument second, and even he had many outbursts.
All pundits wear their hearts on their sleeves as they are chosen because of their love for the game.
One thing you cannot say about Pat is that he doesn't love the game and he has more than once help up his hands and apologised when he went to far.
A lot of his analyses are spot on and unfortunately not many people give him credit for that, because they are entirely focused on trying to catch him out.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 27, 2022 10:38:37 GMT
My biggest problem with Michael Burns is that he tends to be a little hotheaded , being confrontational even after getting his free. Regarding Pat Spillane, it’s a shame if he will be remembered more for his attention seeking, cringe inducing comments rather than for the fact that he was a brilliant footballer. I have given up reading him and Joe Brolly. I feel Eamon Fitzmaurice is the most informative co-commentator on RTÉ . Writes with the same authority as well. PatS like Brolly suffer from occupational hazard, i.e. their occupation moulds their thinking - PatS can be bossy and maybe a bit opinionated though it is opinions he is paid for. Brolly as a barrister picks holes and often against the tide, though both their hearts are in the right place. There is no such thing as a perfect pundit but I must say I learn from PatS and he spots things that others don't. I think he'd make a great manager, his commitment alone would make a great connection with players and they'd do it for him if not themselves, could be moments of panto though, I'd say he'd shade Paidí in that respect! Wasn't he disregarded from management by TCB due to his pundit role? After what Tommy Carr did to Maurice Fitz in Thurles as he went to take a free, I could never listen to him as he has no credibility IMO. Yes, Éamonn is very good, gives an overview while being spot on with detail. And remember he has hinted that there is more to come from Tyrone - I know I go on a bit on this but 9/1 on them looks conspicuous to me but only time will tell. 6 laddos walking is very UnTyrone, what are the odds I wonder of the 6 of them winning AI medals in 2022 - maybe I'll be able to afford that villa in Barbados after all? |
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