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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 30, 2022 18:40:59 GMT
From being over the hedge from our Lamb Deargs and crossing into enemy territory on occasion to watch a club game, I feel the one thing they have is that they tend to recruit a meaner candidate for inter-county battles.
The GAA culture probably means more to them and which is ore to do with their history, and not anything we have wrong.
One thing I will say is that they like Kerry, back in the day when things were tight they used to go to each others houses after the pub and turn on a video of an AI final.
And conversation wise all Ulster supporters and pure panto - one minute you are dealing with a saintly sort of a latchico, then you innocently voice admiration for some aspect of another Ulster team and next thing the Fs and Ss start flying out of nowhere - here I am laughing as I recall various instances down the years. I've been around the block a bit myself in the arts and I just can't get my head around this, ah I'd often get 'em going too but it doesn't take much - the hoors could frighten you at times as you wouldn't be sure if things might go to another level but no, they cool down as quick as they revved up.
The other angle is the women, some of 'em could teach the best of us, even younger girls - it is nice and then you have 5 - 10 year olds who'd go through you for a short cut.
Yerra, just a bit nostalgic really, had some great moments with them, best of all at Kerry games. And Paul Galvin has as many fans in Tyrone as he has in Kerry, they have angles on him that we wouldn't have seen - and they adore his fashion designs, yip, ah that's the youth for you. There are many bright days up ahead once this world settles down a bit.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 30, 2022 21:06:13 GMT
I dont Tyrone has an indian over Kerry in championship football and i dont think the reverse is true either. In my opinion the better team won in all meetings in the championship since the modern rivalry started in 2003. Don't think personally they were the better team in 08, think it was just a bit of bad luck on our part that day esp with Declan's goal chance.
Would agree in all the other encounters the best team won, no doubt last August we beat ourselves.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 30, 2022 21:42:49 GMT
I dont Tyrone has an indian over Kerry in championship football and i dont think the reverse is true either. In my opinion the better team won in all meetings in the championship since the modern rivalry started in 2003. Don't think personally they were the better team in 08, think it was just a bit of bad luck on our part that day esp with Declan's goal chance. Would agree in all the other encounters the best team won, no doubt last August we beat ourselves.
They imposed their game on us in 2008. We manfully hung in there. In Killarney in 2010 and in 2019 they didnt impose their game on us...not for the full game anyway. After about the first 5 minutes of last years game they seemed to have us sussed out. I got the impression that they could manufacture a goal whenever they needed one. They kept serious scoring firepower in reserve till the second half whereas we didnt have much scoring power coming off the bench. |
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 31, 2022 21:06:02 GMT
Dungannon Clarkes attacker Paul Donaghy has become the latest player to exit the Tyrone squad as they continue preparations for their Ulster Championship clash with Fermanagh.
The All-Ireland champions travel to Brewster Park to face the Erne County on 16 April, and Donaghy is just one of a number of players who will no longer be present from last year's Sam Maguire winning squad, reports the Belfast Telegraph.
Ronan O’Neill, Mark Bradley, Lee Brennan, Tiernan McCann, Hugh Pat McGeary and Michael O’Neill had all previously departed Feargal Logan and Brian Dooher’s squad. There was further bad news as it has been confirmed that Mattie Donnelly picked up a hamstring injury in Sunday’s impressive Allianz Football League win over Kerry.
Donaghy memorably scored ten points on his Tyrone debut in May 2021, a National League loss to Donegal, and he came off the bench in the All-Ireland final win over Mayo last September.
The player started in the win over Kildare and the loss to Donegal in this year's league as well as making a further three substitute appearances.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 21:40:54 GMT
Dungannon Clarkes attacker Paul Donaghy has become the latest player to exit the Tyrone squad as they continue preparations for their Ulster Championship clash with Fermanagh. The All-Ireland champions travel to Brewster Park to face the Erne County on 16 April, and Donaghy is just one of a number of players who will no longer be present from last year's Sam Maguire winning squad, reports the Belfast Telegraph. Ronan O’Neill, Mark Bradley, Lee Brennan, Tiernan McCann, Hugh Pat McGeary and Michael O’Neill had all previously departed Feargal Logan and Brian Dooher’s squad. There was further bad news as it has been confirmed that Mattie Donnelly picked up a hamstring injury in Sunday’s impressive Allianz Football League win over Kerry. Donaghy memorably scored ten points on his Tyrone debut in May 2021, a National League loss to Donegal, and he came off the bench in the All-Ireland final win over Mayo last September. The player started in the win over Kildare and the loss to Donegal in this year's league as well as making a further three substitute appearances. it's hard to keep fellas on the fringes happy these days eventhough they'd be in with a chance of winning the allireland. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 31, 2022 22:00:16 GMT
The thing you'd imagine would be concerning for Tyrone is that these lads may not be starters but they certainly give you a good bench.
Their first 15 is solid as we saw on Sunday but it was their bench that won it for them last year.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 31, 2022 22:05:15 GMT
Dungannon Clarkes attacker Paul Donaghy has become the latest player to exit the Tyrone squad Ronan O’Neill, Mark Bradley, Lee Brennan, Tiernan McCann, Hugh Pat McGeary and Michael O’Neill had all previously departed Feargal Logan and Brian Dooher’s squad. I thought Michael oNeill was good v Kerry last year. And it was Tiernan McCann that was wresting with JB for that high ball that led to the 3rd goal. There must be something up in the camp all the same |
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Post by thepromisedland on Mar 31, 2022 22:08:53 GMT
Tyrone are masters of game management in close encounters. It's highly effective, even if it won't gain them any friends or win them any fair play awards. But they won't care. It's win at all costs. They are the most despised county in Ulster, thats coming from people from many other counties up there, They are workmanlike, terrific unit for the cause.
But they are overrated in many ways I feel. They are a one trick pony, slbeit, an excellent one. They won't win high scoring games, as they only really know to play one way. They'll win no All-Ireland this year, as they are consistently inconsistent, they are incapable of doing back to back. They remind me of and an excellent guerrilla warfare side, but are useless in open warfare, high battle, high ammunition warfare.
I really respected their noughties team.
Last year's All-Ireland won by themselves in the final against a very disappointing Mayo, again was won fairly.
Still Tyrone, the 2021 All-Ireland Championship winner's will go down as the weakest winners since Cork 2010, in a poor final v Down. Most people tend to agree with that summarisation.
That's my personal overall view anyway.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Mar 31, 2022 22:24:26 GMT
Dungannon Clarkes attacker Paul Donaghy has become the latest player to exit the Tyrone squad Ronan O’Neill, Mark Bradley, Lee Brennan, Tiernan McCann, Hugh Pat McGeary and Michael O’Neill had all previously departed Feargal Logan and Brian Dooher’s squad. I thought Michael oNeill was good v Kerry last year. And it was Tiernan McCann that was wresting with JB for that high ball that led to the 3rd goal. There must be something up in the camp all the same Michael O’Neill is still involved. Something that I find strange is Conor McKenna didn’t even come off the bench in Killarney. While he got the goals last year, his all round performances weren’t brilliant. When he first came back from Oz he was playing phenomenal stuff under Mickey Harte (granted it was only 3 games), top 5 footballers in the country level. Him firing at 11 would be an absolutely huge addition to Tyrone but like McShane the form just isn’t there for some reason. |
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Post by tyroneperson on Apr 1, 2022 7:55:21 GMT
Tyrone are masters of game management in close encounters. It's highly effective, even if it won't gain them any friends or win them any fair play awards. But they won't care. It's win at all costs. They are the most despised county in Ulster, thats coming from people from many other counties up there, They are workmanlike, terrific unit for the cause. But they are overrated in many ways I feel. They are a one trick pony, slbeit, an excellent one. They won't win high scoring games, as they only really know to play one way. They'll win no All-Ireland this year, as they are consistently inconsistent, they are incapable of doing back to back. They remind me of and an excellent guerrilla warfare side, but are useless in open warfare, high battle, high ammunition warfare. I really respected their noughties team. Last year's All-Ireland won by themselves in the final against a very disappointing Mayo, again was won fairly. Still Tyrone, the 2021 All-Ireland Championship winner's will go down as the weakest winners since Cork 2010, in a poor final v Down. Most people tend to agree with that summarisation. That's my personal overall view anyway. Tyrone scored 3-14 against yourselves in last year’s semi-final, 2-15 against Mayo in the final and 1-15 against yourselves at the weekend so I think we’re more potent in attack than you give us credit for. I would also argue that it’s a big reason why Tyrone won the All-Ireland last year after repeatedly falling short in the latter years of Mickey Harte’s tenure, when we couldn’t buy a goal in Croke Park. |
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Apr 1, 2022 9:08:27 GMT
I thought Michael oNeill was good v Kerry last year. And it was Tiernan McCann that was wresting with JB for that high ball that led to the 3rd goal. There must be something up in the camp all the same Michael O’Neill is still involved. Something that I find strange is Conor McKenna didn’t even come off the bench in Killarney. While he got the goals last year, his all round performances weren’t brilliant. When he first came back from Oz he was playing phenomenal stuff under Mickey Harte (granted it was only 3 games), top 5 footballers in the country level. Him firing at 11 would be an absolutely huge addition to Tyrone but like McShane the form just isn’t there for some reason. It's hard to know who's involved by now. One thing you can say about the new Tyrone is that they have classy forwards. Keep McKenna quiet and McShane stands up, keep McShane and McCurry takes over, and so on. That said though there is something wrong if there are constant rumours of lads stepping away from the panel. Maybe it's just mind games and they are all still training away with them but kept in reserve. |
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Post by tyroneperson on Apr 1, 2022 9:29:29 GMT
Michael O’Neill is still involved. Something that I find strange is Conor McKenna didn’t even come off the bench in Killarney. While he got the goals last year, his all round performances weren’t brilliant. When he first came back from Oz he was playing phenomenal stuff under Mickey Harte (granted it was only 3 games), top 5 footballers in the country level. Him firing at 11 would be an absolutely huge addition to Tyrone but like McShane the form just isn’t there for some reason. It's hard to know who's involved by now. One thing you can say about the new Tyrone is that they have classy forwards. Keep McKenna quiet and McShane stands up, keep McShane and McCurry takes over, and so on. That said though there is something wrong if there are constant rumours of lads stepping away from the panel. Maybe it's just mind games and they are all still training away with them but kept in reserve. It’s not mind games, a few of the lads have done interviews explaining why they’ve gone. Two of them are getting married and also lack of game time has been big issue - Ronan O’Neill said he couldn’t go through it again. As a Tyrone fan it’s a pity so many have left |
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Apr 1, 2022 9:33:39 GMT
It's hard to know who's involved by now. One thing you can say about the new Tyrone is that they have classy forwards. Keep McKenna quiet and McShane stands up, keep McShane and McCurry takes over, and so on. That said though there is something wrong if there are constant rumours of lads stepping away from the panel. Maybe it's just mind games and they are all still training away with them but kept in reserve. It’s not mind games, a few of the lads have done interviews explaining why they’ve gone - two of them are getting married and also lack of game time has been big issue - Ronan O’Neill said he couldn’t go through it again. As a Tyrone fan it’s a pity so many have left To be honest, the majority of those that stepped away would find it hard to find a spot on the panel anyway, so perhaps they made the right choice. Intercounty football is a huge commitment and if you're giving up your life without knowing whether you will ever get time of the bench.... I'm assuming Logan and Dooher will have been quite honest to them. Logan strikes me as the kind of guy that would tell them honestly: you might come on as a sub every now and then, but I don't see you as a starter. |
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