Joxer
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Post by Joxer on Jan 31, 2022 15:00:04 GMT
With all the :talk over the years about county champions nominating the captain, a thought struck me yesterday when watching our goalkeeper, and his jersey specifically. If the right to nominate the captain is taken away from the county champions, then the goalkeeper's jersey for the following year will be the county champions jersey. I'd have preferred seeing the black and amber yesterday versus what looked like the Tipperary jersey. And I mean the outfield jersey of the club, so the full black and amber of Austin Stacks this year, not the Stacks keeper jersey. The same thought occurred to me yesterday also Ballhopper. Great minds and all that. I went on to thinking about say South Kerry winning it and what do you do then? Maybe confine it to club championship? Could still present an issue at some point but maybe if its green and gold, you reverse to gold and green? I'm overthinking this....  |
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Post by dc84 on Jan 31, 2022 16:12:06 GMT
With all the :talk over the years about county champions nominating the captain, a thought struck me yesterday when watching our goalkeeper, and his jersey specifically. If the right to nominate the captain is taken away from the county champions, then the goalkeeper's jersey for the following year will be the county champions jersey. I'd have preferred seeing the black and amber yesterday versus what looked like the Tipperary jersey. And I mean the outfield jersey of the club, so the full black and amber of Austin Stacks this year, not the Stacks keeper jersey. The same thought occurred to me yesterday also Ballhopper. Great minds and all that. I went on to thinking about say South Kerry winning it and what do you do then? Maybe confine it to club championship? Could still present an issue at some point but maybe if its green and gold, you reverse to gold and green? I'm overthinking this.... Haha I had the same thought ! Only problem is it might effect sales doubt there would be too many buying it outside of stacks !! No offence 😂 |
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Post by thepromisedland on Jan 31, 2022 18:19:01 GMT
With all the talk over the years about county champions nominating the captain, a thought struck me yesterday when watching our goalkeeper, and his jersey specifically. If the right to nominate the captain is taken away from the county champions, then the club’s goalkeeper's jersey for the following year will be the county champions jersey. I'd have preferred seeing the black and amber yesterday versus what looked like the Tipperary jersey. And I mean the outfield jersey of the club, so the full black and amber of Austin Stacks this year, not the Stacks keeper jersey. Great idea, innovative thinking, if the colors clashed use the club’s goalkeeper’s jersey. Also put the name of the club on the back if allowed. Then choose the best captain for the job Terrific idea Aodhan. I love that concept, using the named winners of the current county champions as a keeper's jersey. Another idea, wouod be for our goalkeeper to wear any club that would be celebrating a milestone, when they were founded etc, a sort of a commemorative anniversary jersey. O'Neills infuriate me with their musical chairs templates of colours and designs, switching them around to different counties. It's lazy, conservative approach to artistry and designing merchandise, always wanting the easy way out, yet expecting the customer to pay huge costs. Their prices have skyrocketed in the last 2 years. The current National League Kerry gear, is almost identical to the National League wear they had in the Spring of 2013!! I still have, hence, musical chairs, lazy way of designing and selling. |
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Post by thehermit on Jan 31, 2022 22:35:40 GMT
Agree completely Thepromisedland. O'Neills are making a killing not only on what they charge supporters but also what they are charging clubs. Paul Galvin was talking a couple of years ago about what Finuge were paying to get a kit and gear off them and it sounded scandalous.
And bare in mind I think it was the Times Irish Edition that did a big expose 3-4 years ago on the company and highlighted the woeful work conditions of the people they outsource production to in S-E Asia. Basically using sweatshops.
And yet for all that they put no effort or real originality or creativity into what they produce - they just recycle generic designs and seem to have an attitude towards counties and clubs of like it or lump it.
And don't get me started on some of the latest 'commemorative' jersey's they've been pushing out - the Michael Collins one from the summer was so tacky it was an embarrassment. But what really annoyed me was coming out with a Bloody Sunday (1972) one just before Christmas - using innocent people's deaths to flog something. Its so utterly tasteless it was barely believable. But they'll pretend its about honouring people and not a cynical money grab. Anyway rant over!!
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Post by glengael on Feb 3, 2022 12:36:35 GMT
No love for the jersey from this old codger either. If it were a brochure, I'd say it was a cut & paste job. Looks like they just put the colours into a standard design and got this as a result. I dislike the underlining of the 'Kerry'. Presume the sponsors had to sign off on their name being removed.
Money grabbing aside, why does it need to be changed every year anyway?
I'd like to go back towards the 2021-2014 jerseys, with a collar.
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Post by veteran on Feb 3, 2022 12:50:25 GMT
I am a little confused with some of the comments on the new Kerry jersey. Are Kerry Group no longer the sponsors ?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 3, 2022 13:18:47 GMT
I am a little confused with some of the comments on the new Kerry jersey. Are Kerry Group no longer the sponsors ? That is still Kerry plc's brand ID, albeit in Green as oppose to 'business blue', so Daisy is still paying the bills. 'Group' was a bit plain for a jersey and stale anyway - maybe it was dropped with the recent sale of Kerry Foods and it now more a PR exercise than advertising? Maybe they will clear the air and tell us, maybe they won't? As regards collars, I think the less material the less the opponents have to hang onto - a ref of old was telling me that a big FB used to get his ludín into a wee CFs sleeve cuff and tow him around the field after him - amazing but true, somehow I can't see Jason towing Cathal McShane around Croker with his ludín, might work with a John Deere and a chain - is that covered in the rules I wonder, maybe a big Massey 4wd then? |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 3, 2022 13:39:43 GMT
Agree completely Thepromisedland. O'Neills are making a killing not only on what they charge supporters but also what they are charging clubs. Paul Galvin was talking a couple of years ago about what Finuge were paying to get a kit and gear off them and it sounded scandalous. And bare in mind I think it was the Times Irish Edition that did a big expose 3-4 years ago on the company and highlighted the woeful work conditions of the people they outsource production to in S-E Asia. Basically using sweatshops. And yet for all that they put no effort or real originality or creativity into what they produce - they just recycle generic designs and seem to have an attitude towards counties and clubs of like it or lump it. And don't get me started on some of the latest 'commemorative' jersey's they've been pushing out - the Michael Collins one from the summer was so tacky it was an embarrassment. But what really annoyed me was coming out with a Bloody Sunday (1972) one just before Christmas - using innocent people's deaths to flog something. Its so utterly tasteless it was barely believable. But they'll pretend its about honouring people and not a cynical money grab. Anyway rant over!! Never saw the '72 one and that would be distasteful, we need to be mindful that was it 21st Nov 1920 in Croker was also Bloody Sunday. God bless those who suffered at the hands of spineless bully cowards ambushing the vulnerable. Watching TV these days look at what happened to children on our own doorstep, neighbours children - the cruelty inflicted on a poor mother who had just lost her baby. In another vein I penned a poem 'Never Mind The Child' and which focused on the shenanigans of those who 'had no interest in the child', and they weren't all clerics either. Unfortunately the work now has a new dimension - we have a lot to be thankful for and in fairness I think the GAA, and indeed all sport, is a powerful counter-spirit to such evil in society. Certainly puts our rantin' into perspective, we think we have problems if we don't win an auld cup! |
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 3, 2022 14:52:24 GMT
I am a little confused with some of the comments on the new Kerry jersey. Are Kerry Group no longer the sponsors ? I can't see Jason towing Cathal McShane around Croker with his ludín, might work with a John Deere and a chain - is that covered in the rules I wonder, maybe a big Massey 4wd then? Hah! Your two obsessions nicely rolled in together...Jason and tractors! |
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Post by thepromisedland on Feb 3, 2022 17:30:13 GMT
Market dictating values, life imitating Art, Art imitating life regarding the letterhead design of the Kerry brand. We have officially the longest brand sponsor in the country, since those beautiful, golden yellow silky jersey's back in 1991 with the abstracted Kerry Co-Op grass/ leaf like logo.
Collars are nice on jersey's, but they have to work really, no point in incorporating them otherwise, it's all about aesthetics, tradition and performance with regard a jersey nowadays.
Jersey's are ways going to be pulled and dragged, at least, with a few peripheral pieces of fabric on them, the damage after will be more noticeable in how certain players are getting more unwanted physical attention, a sort of visual reminder to the management, either we need to move this fella, or else he's doing real damage to the opposition. That's what I found with those collar, long sleeve reminders in the past anyway.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 3, 2022 20:25:40 GMT
I can't see Jason towing Cathal McShane around Croker with his ludín, might work with a John Deere and a chain - is that covered in the rules I wonder, maybe a big Massey 4wd then? Hah! Your two obsessions nicely rolled in together...Jason and tractors! I'd be more your reliable 135 man having graduated from the grey mare and hopefully Jason emulates said 135. So in closing this loop on me stood accused of being an agricultural yuppie, well, well, well allelujah but all has been revealed – the animal on the new jersey is a reminder of what PO’6 said about us!And to put the icing on things agricultural here, fellow poet one Dr George Sigerson grew up on the McShane family farm and to who my own crowd would be connected through The O'Neills - we chased out of Ulster ala Flight of The Earls so you could say I am the hero returned, back to the scene of the crime! They haven't chased me yet but stranger things have happened and I often wondered if my home is on the road. So there you go, neither Shane nor myself licked it off the ground, or maybe that is exactly what we did! Ballythefireside Quote of The Day – The cow feeds the body but Ballythefireside feeds the brain - and where the head goes the body follows, well most of the time anyway, bar the odd stagger or when the door moves!Ah we have little to be doing! |
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 3, 2022 21:59:31 GMT
The McShane surname derived from being progeny of the man himself Shane O'Neill, Earl of Tyrone so Cathal McShane is is made from the right stuff. No wonder he gave up on the Oz thing and came home to play for Tyrone. Interesting about George Sigerson....
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Post by glengael on Feb 4, 2022 14:15:16 GMT
I am a little confused with some of the comments on the new Kerry jersey. Are Kerry Group no longer the sponsors ? Apologies veteran for any confusion. When I checked the Kerry Group Corporate literature, I see that the 'Kerry' with the line under it ( now seen on the jerseys) is in fact their current logo. I wasn't aware that they had dropped the 'Group' from their branding. |
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Post by fenit67 on Feb 4, 2022 16:24:59 GMT
On the subject of jerseys I am somewhat of a luddite and I believe that they are of great importance. The jersey is what represents a part of each person's identity, the sporting DNA if you like. There are even some, the result of mixed marriages or uncaring parents, who will have strong affinities with two counties. In the GAA the association with a team is not dictated by fashion or a star player as with soccer in Britain but recently there has been an outbreak in Ireland of change kits or even third kits.
The worst offenders have been Mayo with that black abomination which makes them look like a bag of liquorice allsorts. How often do teams need to change colours across the codes in a year? Due to a silly GAA rule both teams have to change which could easily be remedied. If the proliferation of change jerseys goes unchecked then the day of Kerry playing in red against Cork in green and gold is not too far distant.
The matter at hand is the current offering for our county teams. There are many words in the dictionary and I must choose carefully....shambolic, disastrous, childish and clueless. I am left to wonder if the designer's guide-dog did the work as it is poor in thought, style and execution. It probably escaped the County Board's attention that we already had what I consider to be one of the finest Kerry jerseys at the ready in the form of the Commemorative Jersey. Stylish, splendid design and with gravitas lacking in practically every other county jersey. It responded to our needs...a green jersey struck, finally, with a proper deep gold hoop. It sang gloriously of our deep past as people and sportspeople and of us as we face the future. Corporate people have no feelings and we could do what we should do and that's not to buy that joke of a jersey now being foisted upon us for the next two years.
The rant is now over and I wanted to add that I am the proud owner of a 1987 Adidas jersey which has been taken to the frontlines of Croker on more than one occasion.
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Post by veteran on Feb 4, 2022 16:36:56 GMT
I am a little confused with some of the comments on the new Kerry jersey. Are Kerry Group no longer the sponsors ? Apologies veteran for any confusion. When I checked the Kerry Group Corporate literature, I see that the 'Kerry' with the line under it ( now seen on the jerseys) is in fact their current logo. I wasn't aware that they had dropped the 'Group' from their branding. No need to apologise Glengael. No harm done. Like you, I didn’t realise the company had dropped “Group” from the brand. Glad they are still on board as our main sponsor. |
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Post by veteran on Feb 4, 2022 16:48:33 GMT
Fenit 67, I agree with a lot of what you say but have you seen the new jersey in the flesh ? I thought it looked fine up in Newbridge with the numbers clearly legible , even though black numbers might enhance the legibility even further.
Of course it may be I am easily satisfied after the away monstrosity Paul Galvan designed.
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Post by fenit67 on Feb 4, 2022 19:45:07 GMT
Veteran I've not seen it "in the fabric" as it were but come the end of March I'll remedy that. I'm sure that the jersey will be fine but we could have been offered much better. In any case Up the Kingdom!
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 4, 2022 23:46:55 GMT
I was on the fence ré new Jersey but in Newbridge live it was nt too bad. Agree with Veteran on Galvin black and tan Jersey. The keepers Black one is my all time favourite |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 5, 2022 3:22:12 GMT
I thought the Paul Galvin green and gold jersey was the best of the lot.
I also have a theory that the "copper" jersey was not supposed to be that colour, more a yellowy gold, and something somewhere went wrong.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 5, 2022 9:44:59 GMT
I was on the fence ré new Jersey but in Newbridge live it was nt too bad. Agree with Veteran on Galvin black and tan Jersey. The keepers Black one is my all time favourite That was a cracker, the gold was nice too in fairness |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 22, 2022 16:54:30 GMT
Came across the white Kerry training jersey on twitter today.
Thought that's nice will have a look.
65 euro.
Ahhh lads.
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Post by thepromisedland on Feb 22, 2022 17:41:49 GMT
Came across the white Kerry training jersey on twitter today. Thought that's nice will have a look. 65 euro. Ahhh lads. I agree, the white training jersey, which is very Limerickesque, is a lovely training jersey, but the price for it is pure extortionate. Almost priced at the same level as the official jersey. Goalkeeper's jersey will be unveiled within the next two weeks. New away jersey will be unveiled next Spring 2023. The tacky yellow, green crest demean everything. The deep green, blue crest variant on any black background merchandise is much nicer. |
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Zubie
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Post by Zubie on Feb 23, 2022 16:31:13 GMT
The Kerry jersey is growing on me at every outing. A jersey looks good on a winning team. |
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Post by southward on Feb 23, 2022 17:44:56 GMT
Came across the white Kerry training jersey on twitter today. Thought that's nice will have a look. 65 euro. Ahhh lads. What's a training jersey when it's at home? Is it a top players just wear when they're training? |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 23, 2022 19:00:07 GMT
Came across the white Kerry training jersey on twitter today. Thought that's nice will have a look. 65 euro. Ahhh lads. What's a training jersey when it's at home? Is it a top players just wear when they're training? Yep and 65 euro for the privilege! |
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Post by shaggy04 on Feb 24, 2022 9:16:42 GMT
Yeah its a nice feeling to see your countymen in strange lands. I was once walking down the street in a place called Chang Mai in Northern Thailand with a group of English/Kiwi/German backpackers - next thing a taxi passes us by with a group of lads in the green and gold hollering and shouting at me. The rest of group didn't have a clue what was going on, so I told them I was a bit of a tv personality in Ireland and the lads were obviously fans haha very good 😂 Question for ye lads, does there come a time when a fella can get too old to ware jerseys? You're never too old, So long as the Jersey still fits |
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Post by shaggy04 on Feb 24, 2022 9:18:28 GMT
I know a couple of crowds do replicas but one is the wrong shade or green/yellow and the other just doesn't look enough like it. Shame they are so rare these days Yeah that one is very hard to find, The away version of that jersey in Navy is class too. The 97 jersey I got is pretty good, decent fit .. I dont remember the away Adidas one,any chance you could put up a picture,in my head it must have been very nice |
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Post by shaggy04 on Feb 24, 2022 9:21:35 GMT
My dad gave me his programmes horse. 70s and 80s.. absolutely fantastic Ah they're a differant gravy, I've a load of 70's to recent and a few mid 50 Munster final .. there's something special about them, only marginally bettered by old team photographs. If I start a thread would ye be interested in putting up pictures of programs and or jerseys ye have, I've started a thing of collecting club jerseys recently. |
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Post by buck02 on Feb 24, 2022 9:59:46 GMT
Yeah that one is very hard to find, The away version of that jersey in Navy is class too. The 97 jersey I got is pretty good, decent fit .. I dont remember the away Adidas one,any chance you could put up a picture,in my head it must have been very nice The navy Adidas was nice. It wasn't for sale to the public. I think it was only worn once against Meath in a league quarter final or semi final in Limerick, in 1999. For some reason I can't copy the links to sportsfile, just google Kerry v Meath 1999 and go to images. |
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Post by keane on Feb 24, 2022 10:24:17 GMT
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