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Post by Jo90 on Oct 22, 2021 9:53:07 GMT
Shefflin's appointment fairly franks the form that you also need the best manager and given that Henry may have burnt bridges, it took convincing. On reflection, I wonder if Henry and Cody had a word? I suppose the Cats couldn't expect him to lie idle, what with no guarantees of 'if' or 'when' making a 'bird in the hand' scenario for King H. IMO this episode will probably kill off any such hesitations or indeed expectations, going forward. I suppose that 25 year gap between him and Cody tallies roughly with Dwyer with Kildare - was that the first big 'betrayal' and did the Aussie rules give Mick a bit of ammo? HQ weren't fond of this early on, just like they didn't like Bendix washing machines and so the guns were out. A convergence in teams might make management capability more a deciding factor and we are already seeing teams on an equal par fitness wise, S&C will be next and so on. Time to develop a GAA management school in ITT, now MTU, with the Rebels. Deenihan as Chairman of MTU will now hopefully busy himself with that assignment. But how come some fellas do get all the nice jobs? That last James had was stopping us cutting turf, and a picture hanging on the wall behind him in his ministerial office of his two pals sweating it out with their sleáns - now stop, the picture was painted before the law was changed. Interesting how a day in the bog can land a fella in all sorts of, well lets say wan thing leads onto another. Ah another verse for ' Operation Ballythefireplace' - only now I get it, with the fireplace gone we had no use for turf! Kilkenny County Board must be delighted, let Shefflin go off and learn his intercounty trade and make the rookie mistakes that he'll learn spades from with another county. In the meantime, get some patsy in for the poison chalice that is Cody's immediate successor, Kilkenny's David Moyes as it were. Then Shefflin comes back with the experience and without having the pressure of being directly after Cody. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Oct 22, 2021 11:37:23 GMT
Shefflin's appointment fairly franks the form that you also need the best manager and given that Henry may have burnt bridges, it took convincing. On reflection, I wonder if Henry and Cody had a word? I suppose the Cats couldn't expect him to lie idle, what with no guarantees of 'if' or 'when' making a 'bird in the hand' scenario for King H. IMO this episode will probably kill off any such hesitations or indeed expectations, going forward. I suppose that 25 year gap between him and Cody tallies roughly with Dwyer with Kildare - was that the first big 'betrayal' and did the Aussie rules give Mick a bit of ammo? HQ weren't fond of this early on, just like they didn't like Bendix washing machines and so the guns were out. A convergence in teams might make management capability more a deciding factor and we are already seeing teams on an equal par fitness wise, S&C will be next and so on. Time to develop a GAA management school in ITT, now MTU, with the Rebels. Deenihan as Chairman of MTU will now hopefully busy himself with that assignment. But how come some fellas do get all the nice jobs? That last James had was stopping us cutting turf, and a picture hanging on the wall behind him in his ministerial office of his two pals sweating it out with their sleáns - now stop, the picture was painted before the law was changed. Interesting how a day in the bog can land a fella in all sorts of, well lets say wan thing leads onto another. Ah another verse for ' Operation Ballythefireplace' - only now I get it, with the fireplace gone we had no use for turf! Kilkenny County Board must be delighted, let Shefflin go off and learn his intercounty trade and make the rookie mistakes that he'll learn spades from with another county. In the meantime, get some patsy in for the poison chalice that is Cody's immediate successor, Kilkenny's David Moyes as it were. Then Shefflin comes back with the experience and without having the pressure of being directly after Cody. Shefflin delighted too, though the poison is weakening and by the time Brian sits down, well you never know, bird in the hand, etc! In any event a new manager gets 3 years and I did note 'years' mentioned by Galway GAA so this is not a temporary fix. Gosh there are some games ahead in both codes, will be great after this Covid crack, pressure will be off re GAA fixtures as there will be at least a few top flight games on every weekend, and that is before we even talk of surprises. Funny though how Limerick are the new Dubs but it is harder to do it in hurling, a big lead can die in 5 mins! |
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 22, 2021 19:04:44 GMT
Shefflin's appointment fairly franks the form that you also need the best manager and given that Henry may have burnt bridges, it took convincing. On reflection, I wonder if Henry and Cody had a word? I suppose the Cats couldn't expect him to lie idle, what with no guarantees of 'if' or 'when' making a 'bird in the hand' scenario for King H. IMO this episode will probably kill off any such hesitations or indeed expectations, going forward. I suppose that 25 year gap between him and Cody tallies roughly with Dwyer with Kildare - was that the first big 'betrayal' and did the Aussie rules give Mick a bit of ammo? HQ weren't fond of this early on, just like they didn't like Bendix washing machines and so the guns were out. A convergence in teams might make management capability more a deciding factor and we are already seeing teams on an equal par fitness wise, S&C will be next and so on. Time to develop a GAA management school in ITT, now MTU, with the Rebels. Deenihan as Chairman of MTU will now hopefully busy himself with that assignment. But how come some fellas do get all the nice jobs? That last James had was stopping us cutting turf, and a picture hanging on the wall behind him in his ministerial office of his two pals sweating it out with their sleáns - now stop, the picture was painted before the law was changed. Interesting how a day in the bog can land a fella in all sorts of, well lets say wan thing leads onto another. Ah another verse for ' Operation Ballythefireplace' - only now I get it, with the fireplace gone we had no use for turf! Kilkenny County Board must be delighted, let Shefflin go off and learn his intercounty trade and make the rookie mistakes that he'll learn spades from with another county. In the meantime, get some patsy in for the poison chalice that is Cody's immediate successor, Kilkenny's David Moyes as it were. Then Shefflin comes back with the experience and without having the pressure of being directly after Cody. Do you think so? I'd say they are stunned |
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Post by thehermit on Nov 6, 2021 10:01:01 GMT
Facebook has reminded me that this day last year was the Sunday of the Cork catastrophe!! A black day all round and in retrospect the beginning of the end for Peter. Lets just say I pretended the internet had gone in my place the next day to dodge some Zoom meetings and nurse my hangover  |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Nov 6, 2021 23:22:50 GMT
Pat Spillane Jnr won man of the match playing for Judes in the Dublin semi final on RTE this evening. He was supposed to be very impressive. Could anyone who watched it give a comment on what level he’s at?
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Post by ciarraimick on Nov 7, 2021 0:02:28 GMT
I watched the game and Spillane was excellent midfield. Very mobile. Good jumper and great link play. Also he kicked 3 great points. Deserved MOTM.However he could nt get on Templenoe s starting team. Strange but that was as a forward so maybe more suited to midfield. Jack Maguire very solid at full back also and another Kerryman FF for St judes David Mannix (former Stacks) did well too.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 7, 2021 13:14:06 GMT
I watched the game and Spillane was excellent midfield. Very mobile. Good jumper and great link play. Also he kicked 3 great points. Deserved MOTM.However he could nt get on Templenoe s starting team. Strange but that was as a forward so maybe more suited to midfield. Jack Maguire very solid at full back also and another Kerryman FF for St judes David Mannix (former Stacks) did well too. Pity to be losing some very good players to Dublin clubs. I had wondered where Mannix was gone. He was a very good club forward and a man who used to pull up his socks up so high that I reckon he could have tucked them into the elastic of his jocks. Always entertaining when you played stacks that you’d not see a millimetre of his leg |
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Post by allrounder on Nov 8, 2021 21:27:55 GMT
I watched the game and Spillane was excellent midfield. Very mobile. Good jumper and great link play. Also he kicked 3 great points. Deserved MOTM.However he could nt get on Templenoe s starting team. Strange but that was as a forward so maybe more suited to midfield. Jack Maguire very solid at full back also and another Kerryman FF for St judes David Mannix (former Stacks) did well too. David Sheehy from Listowel was number 10 for Jude's. And I saw another Listowel lad give a man of the match performance for clonakilty in cork quarter final last Sunday week, Joe grimes. Wouldn't surprise me to see him on cork panel with way he's playing |
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Post by southward on Nov 9, 2021 9:08:32 GMT
I watched the game and Spillane was excellent midfield. Very mobile. Good jumper and great link play. Also he kicked 3 great points. Deserved MOTM.However he could nt get on Templenoe s starting team. Strange but that was as a forward so maybe more suited to midfield. Jack Maguire very solid at full back also and another Kerryman FF for St judes David Mannix (former Stacks) did well too. David Sheehy from Listowel was number 10 for Jude's. And I saw another Listowel lad give a man of the match performance for clonakilty in cork quarter final last Sunday week, Joe grimes. Wouldn't surprise me to see him on cork panel with way he's playing Joe Joe Grimes was a big loss to Listowel; not sure if county standard but a great engine. Likewise the Maguires, Sheehy, Conor Cox etc - a lot of talent being exported and it's a killer. Same for most clubs, I suppose. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 9, 2021 10:37:17 GMT
David Sheehy from Listowel was number 10 for Jude's. And I saw another Listowel lad give a man of the match performance for clonakilty in cork quarter final last Sunday week, Joe grimes. Wouldn't surprise me to see him on cork panel with way he's playing Joe Joe Grimes was a big loss to Listowel; not sure if county standard but a great engine. Likewise the Maguires, Sheehy, Conor Cox etc - a lot of talent being exported and it's a killer. Same for most clubs, I suppose. Is it a coincidence we are only hearing of losses by Listowel? - is this relevant to Fitzy's study on NK football, or is it just a case of migration to Dublin for work that has fellas playing there? WFH (Working From Home) might reverse this a bit, but how much remains to be seen. I would imagine that fellas are more likely to transfer the further the commute, and Mayo would have suffered in this respect. Wasn't there an interview with was it Maguire and he detailed the hours travelling and given how high the bar now is and the consequent commitment required, it is nearly impossible to play for your native club. Reminds of MOM training half the 70s/80's team who were Dublin based, I think they made it down once at the weekend and I also recall MOM saying he wasn't a may for over exertion in training, he said he liked lads to be 'fresh' for their games, like his greyhounds! Funny, or not, but Vincent O'Brien had a similar view with horses, flat ones - he believed there was only so many top performances in a nag so best to save them for the racecourse - now over to our sports scientists! |
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Post by thehermit on Nov 25, 2021 17:27:34 GMT
I see the draws for the provincial championships are being made live on Radio 1 this Saturday afternoon.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2021 14:27:13 GMT
I see the draws for the provincial championships are being made live on Radio 1 this Saturday afternoon.
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Post by thehermit on Nov 26, 2021 15:20:05 GMT
Fair point Kingdomboy! You'd think they would like 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2021 20:02:29 GMT
Fair point Kingdomboy! You'd think they would like 🤔 all I know is we've kildare away first. |
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Post by gaelicden on Nov 26, 2021 20:39:55 GMT
Fair point Kingdomboy! You'd think they would like 🤔 all I know is we've kildare away first. ...and I read somewhere else it's Dublin in Kerry (Tralee?) the following week. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Nov 26, 2021 21:11:29 GMT
all I know is we've kildare away first. ...and I read somewhere else it's Dublin in Kerry (Tralee?) the following week. Ya, I read that some where as well as a Saturday night clash with Mayo, but for the life of me I can't remember where I read it? Think it was Twitter but I've been checking my history and can't find either |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2021 21:18:14 GMT
all I know is we've kildare away first. ...and I read somewhere else it's Dublin in Kerry (Tralee?) the following week. that'll definitely be a Saturday night game. |
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Post by mg72 on Nov 26, 2021 21:58:06 GMT
...and I read somewhere else it's Dublin in Kerry (Tralee?) the following week. that'll definitely be a Saturday night game. Kildare away 29th/30th January Dublin home the following weekend, Saturday night under lights in Tralee proposed. Donegal home 19yh/20th February Monaghan away 26th/27th February Mayo home Saturday 12th March under lights in Tralee proposed. Armagh away the following weekend Tyrone home Sunday 28th March in Killarney. Kerry are allowed to begin collective training on December 8th. |
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Post by sullyschoice on Nov 26, 2021 22:31:30 GMT
I am looking forward to it already. Kildare Monaghan and Armagh away are handy enough for me being based in Dublin.
A few nice weekend trips for the Home games.
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Post by ciarraimick on Nov 26, 2021 22:43:35 GMT
Interesting fixtures. Tyrone at home again? 2 years in a row. Dublin in Tralee whets the appetite.
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Post by The16thMan on Nov 26, 2021 22:54:47 GMT
Interesting fixtures. Tyrone at home again? 2 years in a row. Dublin in Tralee whets the appetite. We played Tyrone up in Edendork in 2020 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2021 23:36:21 GMT
that'll definitely be a Saturday night game. Kildare away 29th/30th January Dublin home the following weekend, Saturday night under lights in Tralee proposed. Donegal home 19yh/20th February Monaghan away 26th/27th February Mayo home Saturday 12th March under lights in Tralee proposed. Armagh away the following weekend Tyrone home Sunday 28th March in Killarney. Kerry are allowed to begin collective training on December 8th. thanks for that mg72, we should be making the league final all going well looking at those fixtures. |
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Post by mg72 on Nov 26, 2021 23:57:03 GMT
Kildare away 29th/30th January Dublin home the following weekend, Saturday night under lights in Tralee proposed. Donegal home 19yh/20th February Monaghan away 26th/27th February Mayo home Saturday 12th March under lights in Tralee proposed. Armagh away the following weekend Tyrone home Sunday 28th March in Killarney. Kerry are allowed to begin collective training on December 8th. thanks for that mg72, we should be making the league final all going well looking at those fixtures. I'd say if Jack was making out the fixtures himself, there's very little that he would have changed! Playing what should be the 4 strongest opponents at home and remaining 3 teams away, couldn't have asked for better. |
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Post by jackiel on Nov 27, 2021 0:59:48 GMT
Interesting fixtures. Tyrone at home again? 2 years in a row. Dublin in Tralee whets the appetite. We played Tyrone up in Edendork in 2020 That's true and in Killarney in 21 , basically no crowd. |
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Post by jackiel on Nov 27, 2021 1:13:42 GMT
My understanding is that these fixtures are to be confirmed early next week. I've been making provisional bookings for the home matches as I'm in Meath. Here's hoping we get a good run at it next year.
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Post by The16thMan on Nov 27, 2021 9:25:59 GMT
We played Tyrone up in Edendork in 2020 That's true and in Killarney in 21 , basically no crowd. Which is also true but I don't think that's taken into account because it was a semi-final. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 10:03:57 GMT
thanks for that mg72, we should be making the league final all going well looking at those fixtures. I'd say if Jack was making out the fixtures himself, there's very little that he would have changed! Playing what should be the 4 strongest opponents at home and remaining 3 teams away, couldn't have asked for better. ya and probably good to get the kildare game out of the way quickly as the media will try to make a big deal out of it. |
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Post by thehermit on Nov 27, 2021 10:14:23 GMT
I'd say if Jack was making out the fixtures himself, there's very little that he would have changed! Playing what should be the 4 strongest opponents at home and remaining 3 teams away, couldn't have asked for better. ya and probably good to get the kildare game out of the way quickly as the media will try to make a big deal out of it.
As an aside, Kingdomboy do you ever look at your messages on this place? Myself and Horse were trying to contact you.
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Post by thehermit on Nov 27, 2021 10:19:40 GMT
that'll definitely be a Saturday night game. Kildare away 29th/30th January Dublin home the following weekend, Saturday night under lights in Tralee proposed. Donegal home 19yh/20th February Monaghan away 26th/27th February Mayo home Saturday 12th March under lights in Tralee proposed. Armagh away the following weekend Tyrone home Sunday 28th March in Killarney. Kerry are allowed to begin collective training on December 8th.
Thanks for posting this mg72, great to start making plans already as I'm based up the country.
All three away trips within easy reach and never been to Armagh for a game so will look forward to that one and seeing them up close.
Dublin and Mayo under lights in Tralee will be brilliant, the League in 2019 was something special with the same fixtures. The night of the Dublin game was like Stephens night or something, the town was hopping. You could feel something building with the team even at that early stage, alas ultimately the All Ireland slipped through our fingers.
God I just hope we get to have a proper League campaign with supporters being allowed to attend. 'High Plataea', King Tony telling us things are on a knife edge and now an Omicron variant out of the savannahs of Botswana. Feeling very low today, wondering if we will ever get out of this.
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Post by jackiel on Nov 27, 2021 14:36:30 GMT
Wanted to avoid the Toy Show last night so ended up going through the Sky box, deleted or watched stuff sitting on it a while. I re-watched the Tyrone matches from the League & semi this year, talk about chalk and cheese. Had a quick look down through the forum posts for the league match this morning. We were all very positive and skipping to an AI Final based on a match played when Tyrone it seemed to me didn't appear to be trying.
Jason McGahan was lauded for the S&C job he'd done with the team, fast forward to August and the lads were dropping like flies with cramp.
So here we are facing into a new campaign with a new (old) manager and pinning our hopes on the return of Sam in 2022. I dearly hope we will get to enjoy matches as we used to pre Covid. I hope to see some of you on the road and indeed to return to Croke Park in the new year. I normally do my look back between Christmas and New Year but this week it seemed like a lot of things were finishing up, talking to friends it seemed like we're all worn out with the drudgery of Covid and all it's consequences.
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