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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 9, 2021 22:45:59 GMT
AttackingWingBack, can you see Moran giving it one more year?
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Oct 9, 2021 23:25:05 GMT
With the best will in the world you can't be pining after lads that have decided to pursue another opportunity. While there is no doubt he was a fantastic prospect we have to work with what we have or what we can unearth in the county champioship. Paul O'Shea and Diarmuid O'Connor should be our long term partnership at midfield providing they kick on and fill out etc. 2021 might be a year too soon for O'Shea though. Jack hit the nail on the head in his press conference when he referenced the need to find players for the middle 8. At the moment only Sean O'Shea, Paudie Clifford and Gavin White are nailed on starters out of the 8 positions. Possible Moran too if he stays for another year. Diarmuid O'Connor will be there or thereabouts. “The middle eight is really critical to the way it’s played. Those players have to be savage athletes, Roy Keane-type players. You have to earmark certain types of players for those roles.” This gives a good insight into what Jack will be looking for from most of his middle 8. Sean O’Shea is guaranteed to start at 11, I remember in the Examiner podcast Jack said that’s by far his best position. In the 2 wing forward positions and the 2 midfielders I think he will be looking for hard working, mobile, physical players. Paudie and Moran don’t really fit that. Paudie is too good not to start so as I’ve said I think him coming out leaving a 2 man full forward line is likely. Moran if he stays on could possibly be looking at a role from the bench. Even with Paul O’Shea who you mention, is he mobile and hard working? No he’s not, he’s a fantastic footballer, but those are his weak points in reality. If you’re looking along those lines I think Joe O’Connor could suit partnering Diarmuid. Eddie Horan and maybe Ronan Buckley as wing forwards. They all fit that description. Any other players else people think would really suit? From reading into Jack’s comments I think he’ll absolutely be looking for those qualities in his middle 8.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 10:34:13 GMT
With the best will in the world you can't be pining after lads that have decided to pursue another opportunity. While there is no doubt he was a fantastic prospect we have to work with what we have or what we can unearth in the county champioship. Paul O'Shea and Diarmuid O'Connor should be our long term partnership at midfield providing they kick on and fill out etc. 2021 might be a year too soon for O'Shea though. Jack hit the nail on the head in his press conference when he referenced the need to find players for the middle 8. At the moment only Sean O'Shea, Paudie Clifford and Gavin White are nailed on starters out of the 8 positions. Possible Moran too if he stays for another year. Diarmuid O'Connor will be there or thereabouts. “The middle eight is really critical to the way it’s played. Those players have to be savage athletes, Roy Keane-type players. You have to earmark certain types of players for those roles.” This gives a good insight into what Jack will be looking for from most of his middle 8. Sean O’Shea is guaranteed to start at 11, I remember in the Examiner podcast Jack said that’s by far his best position. In the 2 wing forward positions and the 2 midfielders I think he will be looking for hard working, mobile, physical players. Paudie and Moran don’t really fit that. Paudie is too good not to start so as I’ve said I think him coming out leaving a 2 man full forward line is likely. Moran if he stays on could possibly be looking at a role from the bench. Even with Paul O’Shea who you mention, is he mobile and hard working? No he’s not, he’s a fantastic footballer, but those are his weak points in reality. If you’re looking along those lines I think Joe O’Connor could suit partnering Diarmuid. Eddie Horan and maybe Ronan Buckley as wing forwards. They all fit that description. Any other players else people think would really suit? From reading into Jack’s comments I think he’ll absolutely be looking for those qualities in his middle 8. to me that looks exactly like what PK was doing with Kerry, having 2 wing forwards who won't bother the score board leaving it all up to Clifford O'Shea and god help us Paul Geaney to get our scores with Paud chipping in with 1 or 2 points. Jack better find a bit more help for David Clifford inside if that's what he's planning.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 10:42:38 GMT
K'boy: Back to your Kerry 6,8,9,and 11 could you imagine Mark O'Connor at 6 Diarmuid O'connor at 8 Paul O'Shea at 9 and Seán O'Shea at 11 now that would be hard to bate. Some are of the opinion that the returning Na Gaeil man will full the number six slot, I have my reservations, a lot of ball has to be played before a return to that standard but I suppose time will tell. If and where he lines out with St. Brendans will tell a lot. Actually he prob will increase that gate receipt alone to see how he will fair out. Looking at the game, they are drawn against Kenmare. The centre field pairing is Hallissy and Kevin Sullivan which means if The returning Na Gaeil man starts at full or centre back he will be marking ex Kerry senior Paul O'Connor or Seanie Shea. That game will fill in a lot of blanks in my opinion. it would be great if Okunbar could fill that number 6 spot horse but I think it's more likely he'd fill in at full back, or he could do a job on a Ruane or a Fenton. If he does end up at 3 where does that leave foley? Does he go back to the corner? Can you see jack sticking with Shane Ryan in goals or can you see him moving him to a Donaghy roll at the edge of opposite square?
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 10, 2021 12:04:04 GMT
“The middle eight is really critical to the way it’s played. Those players have to be savage athletes, Roy Keane-type players. You have to earmark certain types of players for those roles.” This gives a good insight into what Jack will be looking for from most of his middle 8. Sean O’Shea is guaranteed to start at 11, I remember in the Examiner podcast Jack said that’s by far his best position. In the 2 wing forward positions and the 2 midfielders I think he will be looking for hard working, mobile, physical players. Paudie and Moran don’t really fit that. Paudie is too good not to start so as I’ve said I think him coming out leaving a 2 man full forward line is likely. Moran if he stays on could possibly be looking at a role from the bench. Even with Paul O’Shea who you mention, is he mobile and hard working? No he’s not, he’s a fantastic footballer, but those are his weak points in reality. If you’re looking along those lines I think Joe O’Connor could suit partnering Diarmuid. Eddie Horan and maybe Ronan Buckley as wing forwards. They all fit that description. Any other players else people think would really suit? From reading into Jack’s comments I think he’ll absolutely be looking for those qualities in his middle 8. to me that looks exactly like what PK was doing with Kerry, having 2 wing forwards who won't bother the score board leaving it all up to Clifford O'Shea and god help us Paul Geaney to get our scores with Paud chipping in with 1 or 2 points. Jack better find a bit more help for David Clifford inside if that's what he's planning. Spillane, SOS and DC will kick lots of provided there is a cohesive plan to work scores that ends with one of them being the shooter. Remember 13 or 14 points will be enough with a proper defensive structure that can transition out of defense as a group. You only need the other forwards to be chipping in with the odd score under that system. Jack is defo going to look to have the odd scud missile fired in to the 14. Who will that be? David Moran maybe?
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 10, 2021 12:13:47 GMT
K'boy "Can you see jack sticking with Shane Ryan in goals or can you see him moving him to a Donaghy roll at the edge of opposite square?"
God no K'boy, def not, if he reverts to the big man inside and I don't think he will, Ryan wouldn't be on that radar.. someone like Quilter maybe or was it a Matthew Sullivan from the U20 days.. but anyway no... I can't see a Donaghy mark II emerging.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2021 13:00:10 GMT
to me that looks exactly like what PK was doing with Kerry, having 2 wing forwards who won't bother the score board leaving it all up to Clifford O'Shea and god help us Paul Geaney to get our scores with Paud chipping in with 1 or 2 points. Jack better find a bit more help for David Clifford inside if that's what he's planning. Spillane, SOS and DC will kick lots of provided there is a cohesive plan to work scores that ends with one of them being the shooter. Remember 13 or 14 points will be enough with a proper defensive structure that can transition out of defense as a group. You only need the other forwards to be chipping in with the odd score under that system. Jack is defo going to look to have the odd scud missile fired in to the 14. Who will that be? David Moran maybe? ya it's a tactic that has paid dividends for Jack in the past, I don't know if Moran would have the quickness of mind for the big full forward job, Shaw is no small boy if he filled out a bit, Mark O'Shea from crokes is a big man and is a good ball winner. Im a big Geaney fan but to me he's been off it for the last few year weather that has to do with playing in and around the 40 I'm not sure, but he makes a lot of errors that a man of his experience shouldn't. Killian Spillane is a good point scorer but i find he usually only has 1 good half of football in him and he doesn't like the rough stuff, I knew when Peter harte conabbled him in the semifinal he'd disappear and he did. So all of that has to be looked at, Brosnan has a lot of good attributes but seems to be a bit of JOD injurywise. It'll be good if 14/15 points will win us games, I'd be happy with that.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Oct 10, 2021 22:53:27 GMT
AttackingWingBack, can you see Moran giving it one more year? I think he will to be fair. Jack is nothing if not pragmatic. It's all about the here and not and not looking to 2-3 year plans. He will want to get the best players on the pitch. As much as I give out about Moran sometimes he is probably still one of the best primary ball winners in the country along with his kick passing ability. Jack spoke about the middle 8 and I think you can afford to 'carry' one lad in there in terms of legs etc. As for others on about finding a big full forward and moving Ryan there etc. We already have one in Clifford. Maybe get a Shaw or brosnan from Crokes along with Spillane. I would like to see Shane Murphy from Crokes back in as well on the panel at least.
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Post by glengael on Oct 11, 2021 10:02:00 GMT
Whatever else Jack does, I think he needs to pick a forward line without SOS & DC for a while. Then we will see what leadership we have in clearer terms.
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Post by thehermit on Oct 11, 2021 10:48:09 GMT
Whatever else Jack does, I think he needs to pick a forward line without SOS & DC for a while. Then we will see what leadership we have in clearer terms. Yeah IF we still have a League next spring it needs to be all about experimentation. The 4-5 lads who are nailed on starters come the summer should be used only from the bench to see home the couple of wins to ensue Division 1 status.
The problem with having once in a generation players like David and Seanie is the over-reliance on their performance it builds within a team. Let others be given the chance to see if they can lead the line.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2021 11:55:56 GMT
Whatever else Jack does, I think he needs to pick a forward line without SOS & DC for a while. Then we will see what leadership we have in clearer terms. Yeah IF we still have a League next spring it needs to be all about experimentation. The 4-5 lads who are nailed on starters come the summer should be used only from the bench to see home the couple of wins to ensue Division 1 status.
The problem with having once in a generation players like David and Seanie is the over-reliance on their performance it builds within a team. Let others be given the chance to see if they can lead the line. ya basically fellas pass the buck when they have lads the quality of Clifford and O'Shea, it was the same when we had Declan and Gooch.
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Oct 11, 2021 11:59:02 GMT
From reading this trends it really is shaping up to be a great co championship we have to look forward to. The fact that we have a change out of the senior management team brings a huge incentive to players with hopes of playing intercounty to really go and take the county championship by storm. As everyone keeps saying some positions in the central spine of the team are open and also the two wing forwards… what an opportunity for Mark Ryan, Joe O’Connor to battle out at midfield … or Dylan Casey, Daniel O’Brien Dan O’Donoghue or Stefan Okunbur to show they can step up in defense. I really am thinking the panel will be shaken up a bit by Jack come December. This county championship will tell a lot on the players who want it most.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 11, 2021 18:58:31 GMT
Premium Stack asks Kerry public to show patience and understanding with Okunbor
John O'Dowd October 11 2021 03:41 PM
Na Gaeil football team manager Jerome Stack has pleaded with the wider Kerry footballing public to show a bit of patience and understanding with returning Aussie Rules player Stefan Okunbor after he made his Gaelic football comeback at the weekend.
The former Kerry minor and under-20 star, who spent three seasons with the Geelong Cats before moving back to Tralee in recent weeks, played 19 minutes in his club side’s County IFC quarter-final victory over Ballydonoghue at Killeen on Sunday before having to be substituted with a hip injury.
Stack is delighted with Okunbor’s physical conditioning and ball handling skills since returning to Na Gaeil training, but having experienced Tadhg Kennelly’s difficulties in re-adjusting to a different sport during their time as team mates at Listowel Emmets, the Na Gaeil boss is realistic about not raising expectation levels on his new recruit.
“We’re in a very fortunate position that Stefan has returned. From his own point of view, I am sure that it was a fantastic experience to be out in Australia. What player wouldn’t love to have been there? And he has probably learned an awful lot that, hopefully, he will bring back to Na Gaeil and, potentially, to Kerry as well,” he said.
“I had heard about Stefan, but I didn’t meet him until probably a couple of weeks ago. He’s a lovely guy, he’s very interested in, not just Kerry, but Na Gaeil, as all his friends are here. For him to acclimatise back into football here, it will take a little bit of time, no different to what went on in my own club when I was still playing.
“Tadhg Kennelly used to come home, and it takes time. Even the best players, you could be a fantastic player, but it’s two totally different games. But the one thing about Stefan is that he’s got a very good attitude, he blends in immediately with the boys because they’re all just good pals.
“We’re thrilled to bits. Obviously, we would have liked to have got a bit more football into him today but, hopefully, that isn’t anything too serious and maybe, with the help of God, we’ll get another look at him next week [Na Gaeil play Castleisland Desmonds in a county IFC semi-final next Saturday.].
ADVERTISEMENT “To be fair, his ball handling skills are very good. In Australian Rules, I know it’s an oval ball as opposed to a round ball, but it’s the same action, you’re alert, and your hands are very important, and the catching skill you will adapt to.
“But the biggest thing for me is maybe getting into, when to run off of somebody, when to kick, and maybe when you’re on the run, is it a kick or a punch pass? And even, just generally, what area of the field that you need to be in.
“If anyone of us that are out injured, the guys that are playing nine months of the year, if they miss a couple of games, you would say that your timing is off. So how would it be any different for Stefan? But, to be fair, his handling of the ball in our training sessions has been excellent.
“But there’s more to come from him. And all I would ask, no matter what, whether it’s with Na Gaeil or with Kerry, is for people to calm down and give him the space and time. How long did it take Tadhg? We were all expecting Tadhg to come back, and he did his bit when he got home, and the year that he got his All-Ireland medal, he progressed and progressed.
“But he was coming home a couple of years before that, and playing with Listowel, he was playing very well, but it wasn’t at inter-county. I think everybody has got to calm down, and let him play a good few games with Na Gaeil, before we lose him for a while!”
Stack also feels that Okunbor’s physical conditioning is not just down to the fact that he operated in a professional environment for three years, but that it comes from his own self-discipline and dedication to getting the very best out of himself.
“It’s very impressive, and to put things in a bit of context, he was, and probably is, in his own attitude, a professional athlete. His conditioning is something to behold, and that’s kind of a personal discipline that he has. Obviously, when you are a professional sportsman, that’s part of your day job, but I would say that’s the kind of guy he is anyway.
ADVERTISEMENT “He physically has all of those attributes, but it’s not a guy that runs 600 metres or 800 metres that the Na Gaeils or the Kerrys are going to look for. He will have to bring the other stuff, so give him time, and it might work, or it might not work.
“Patience is needed, and an understanding that you don’t just switch a light bulb on in whatever game you are playing.”
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 11, 2021 21:02:33 GMT
F*ckin obviously! The lad has barely kicked a Gaelic football in a few years and people are talking about him coming straight in.
Give him a season or 2 of club football and then we should consider him. I’d love you know how many on here have actually seen him play and what you think his best position is.
I’ve seen it mentioned that he could come in as a full back but I’ll assume that anyone saying that didn’t see his performance against Kildare in the under 20s at full back.
The lad has talent but give him time as he lacked top level ball skills before going up Oz so will probably be worse off now.
He might make it and he might not
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 19, 2021 7:51:09 GMT
Eoin Sheehan knows feckall. This whole nonsense about sources within the county will probably turn out to be some lad involved with his local club who was on the divisional board or something. The use of bombastic phraseology makes it sound a lot more of a scoop than it is Yeah, I suppose Kildare GAA were lying too that they were in advanced stages of discussions with Jack on his role for 2022. If Jack wasn't going back you'd imagine he'd have told Kildare GAA before the podcast. He knew weeks ago in the dressing room after the Leinster Final sure per his own words today. Maybe, just maybe the lad letting everyone know the Kerry job will be his in a podcast, before the subcommittee was announced, and he was willing to burn bridges with the county he was managing may not be the honest actor in this situation. I also can't believe everyone guessed Tally last month before Jack moved for him in October, only after ratification. Maybe Jack read the wild speculation by random posters on this very forum. I apologise to Kerry GAA for planting that Tally seed. I did actually laugh when I saw the rationale on the forum now that Tally is an attack minded coach but it was the quality of the footballers that forced his teams to be defensive. Please stop this. OTB issued an apology this morning saying that Sheehan’s ‘sources’ had been a load of nonsense
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Post by allrounder on Oct 19, 2021 7:55:06 GMT
Yeah, I suppose Kildare GAA were lying too that they were in advanced stages of discussions with Jack on his role for 2022. If Jack wasn't going back you'd imagine he'd have told Kildare GAA before the podcast. He knew weeks ago in the dressing room after the Leinster Final sure per his own words today. Maybe, just maybe the lad letting everyone know the Kerry job will be his in a podcast, before the subcommittee was announced, and he was willing to burn bridges with the county he was managing may not be the honest actor in this situation. I also can't believe everyone guessed Tally last month before Jack moved for him in October, only after ratification. Maybe Jack read the wild speculation by random posters on this very forum. I apologise to Kerry GAA for planting that Tally seed. I did actually laugh when I saw the rationale on the forum now that Tally is an attack minded coach but it was the quality of the footballers that forced his teams to be defensive. Please stop this. OTB issued an apology this morning saying that Sheehan’s ‘sources’ had been a load of nonsense [br Wonder who his sources were 🤔🤔🤔
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Post by buck02 on Oct 19, 2021 8:22:44 GMT
The lady doth protest too much I think.
Eoin Sheehan banned by the Mayo county board first and now has a fatwah issued against him by the Kerry County Board.
Keep it going Eoin, perhaps you could set your sights on the Dubs next.
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 19, 2021 9:08:21 GMT
Fair play to the County Board for persisting with this, a lot of organisations would park and proceed. I’m glad the county board pushed for the apology and called out Sheehan for what he is. Some journalists and papers think they are above reproach and its only right that they get put back in their box now and again and the lid tightly nailed shut.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 19, 2021 15:10:30 GMT
OTB issued an apology this morning saying that Sheehan’s ‘sources’ had been a load of nonsense [br Wonder who his sources were 🤔🤔🤔 He has none would be my reading of it. He took a punt and it’s been proven to be nonsense
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Post by mossie on Oct 19, 2021 19:05:04 GMT
F*ckin obviously! The lad has barely kicked a Gaelic football in a few years and people are talking about him coming straight in. Give him a season or 2 of club football and then we should consider him. I’d love you know how many on here have actually seen him play and what you think his best position is. I’ve seen it mentioned that he could come in as a full back but I’ll assume that anyone saying that didn’t see his performance against Kildare in the under 20s at full back. The lad has talent but give him time as he lacked top level ball skills before going up Oz so will probably be worse off now. He might make it and he might not I tend to agree with a lot of this, his ball skills were not top notch before Oz and he seems to have returned with a few injuries anyways good to have him back
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Post by glengael on Oct 21, 2021 9:51:13 GMT
Fair play to the County Board for persisting with this, a lot of organisations would park and proceed. I’m glad the county board pushed for the apology and called out Sheehan for what he is. Some journalists and papers think they are above reproach and its only right that they get put back in their box now and again and the lid tightly nailed shut. OTB operates on the principle of 2 or 3 men talking about sport for hours on end, often with little only their own opinions or texts from listeners to fill the time between reports from matches that they are not covering live. Inevitable that sometimes the content doesn't live up to scrutiny and of course it should be scrutinised. KCB had to take a stand there given the disquiet about the process generally. The Sunday Times, in an unattributed article (not Ml Foley who at least knows what research is) gave Jack O'Connor credit for managing David Clifford's minor career the other week so there's room for fact checking everywhere...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2021 12:23:55 GMT
The laws of libel are pretty archaic and very easy for a media outlet to get on the wrong side of this even when they are telling the truth.
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Post by yourholiness on Oct 21, 2021 21:08:13 GMT
Eoin Sheahan is not the distant cousin of a decent journalist. Like many on OTB they are just snivelling creators of vacuous content that is packaged to ostensibly sell gambling as a lifestyle .
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 21, 2021 22:23:13 GMT
Eoin Sheahan is not the distant cousin of a decent journalist. Like many on OTB they are just snivelling creators of vacuous content that is packaged to ostensibly sell gambling as a lifestyle . Welcome back. You may recall our joust some years ago about where things would end considering Dublin seemingly (to me at any rate) implausible advantages as regards money and population. You told me to wait till 2025. I found the post...see below. How do you see things at the end of 2021 Over the past year we have discussed whether Dublin will turn the All Ireland into what the Leinster championship is now like ..or...whether this is simply Dublin's golden and Dublin will slip back into the pack like Codys cats when greats retire. You made the valid point that its too early to tell and that the dividend from the investment post 2007 has not been seen yet. That made sense to me. However, this extract from Malachy Clerkins article last week suggests that Dublin will be able to regenerate and keep winning. Gavin deserves great credit for going with young players it has to be said. All he needs now is one every year.
But above all, Dublin’s greatest feat is hiding in plain sight. Year after year, Gavin has managed to keep them winning without them getting older together. The average age of the starting team that beat Tyrone in last year’s semi-final was 26.26. Roll the calendar on by 12 months and the average age of the starting 15 on Saturday night was 26.2. Out went Mick Fitzsimons and Paddy Andrews; in came Eoin Murchan and Brian Howard. Everybody else got a year older but the team as a whole got younger.
Average age Go back even further, to the starting 15 for the first All-Ireland final in this run. The average age that day against Kerry was 26.7 – and yet, here they are, on the cusp of four-in-a-row, with the average age down by half a year. From that 2015 team, they’ve shed Rory O’Carroll, Denis Bastick and Diarmuid Connolly and reduced the roles played by Andrews, Paul Flynn and Bernard Brogan. And become more dominant along the way.
Whatever else Gavin has achieved, putting a lie to the notion of this being a golden generation of irreplaceable players has to be near the top of the list. Sport may well have its way and Dublin may indeed not become the permanent empire the rest of the sport lives in fear of.
But the least that can be said without argument is that they’re going the right way about it. I certainly think the balance is starting to swing sooner than I estimated and the Clerkin article makes some good points. I think Dublin are in a really strong position and that enables an easier transition for some of our younger players . I’ve no doubt that there are similarly skilled players and indeed better players than the likes of Scully in Kerry but the culture and strength in the Dublin camp makes it a more manageable transition . Dublin 2018 are not as good a team as Dublin 2015 but the pack has fallen back considerably. I don’t believe in permanence in sport and Dublin will be beaten. Our teams at underage are not performing particularly well. There are a number of figures in Dublin football without whom the sprawl of the Dublin apparatus is hard to manage and they won’t be there forever . But we are in rude health while others are in transition or decline and I’ll tell you if Clerkin is right in 2025 😃
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Post by Ballyfireside on Oct 22, 2021 1:21:50 GMT
Shefflin's appointment fairly franks the form that you also need the best manager and given that Henry may have burnt bridges, it took convincing. On reflection, I wonder if Henry and Cody had a word? I suppose the Cats couldn't expect him to lie idle, what with no guarantees of 'if' or 'when' making a 'bird in the hand' scenario for King H.
IMO this episode will probably kill off any such hesitations or indeed expectations, going forward. I suppose that 25 year gap between him and Cody tallies roughly with Dwyer with Kildare - was that the first big 'betrayal' and did the Aussie rules give Mick a bit of ammo? HQ weren't fond of this early on, just like they didn't like Bendix washing machines and so the guns were out.
A convergence in teams might make management capability more a deciding factor and we are already seeing teams on an equal par fitness wise, S&C will be next and so on.
Time to develop a GAA management school in ITT, now MTU, with the Rebels. Deenihan as Chairman of MTU will now hopefully busy himself with that assignment. But how come some fellas do get all the nice jobs? That last James had was stopping us cutting turf, and a picture hanging on the wall behind him in his ministerial office of his two pals sweating it out with their sleáns - now stop, the picture was painted before the law was changed. Interesting how a day in the bog can land a fella in all sorts of, well lets say wan thing leads onto another. Ah another verse for 'Operation Ballythefireplace' - only now I get it, with the fireplace gone we had no use for turf!
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Post by Jo90 on Oct 22, 2021 9:53:07 GMT
Shefflin's appointment fairly franks the form that you also need the best manager and given that Henry may have burnt bridges, it took convincing. On reflection, I wonder if Henry and Cody had a word? I suppose the Cats couldn't expect him to lie idle, what with no guarantees of 'if' or 'when' making a 'bird in the hand' scenario for King H. IMO this episode will probably kill off any such hesitations or indeed expectations, going forward. I suppose that 25 year gap between him and Cody tallies roughly with Dwyer with Kildare - was that the first big 'betrayal' and did the Aussie rules give Mick a bit of ammo? HQ weren't fond of this early on, just like they didn't like Bendix washing machines and so the guns were out. A convergence in teams might make management capability more a deciding factor and we are already seeing teams on an equal par fitness wise, S&C will be next and so on. Time to develop a GAA management school in ITT, now MTU, with the Rebels. Deenihan as Chairman of MTU will now hopefully busy himself with that assignment. But how come some fellas do get all the nice jobs? That last James had was stopping us cutting turf, and a picture hanging on the wall behind him in his ministerial office of his two pals sweating it out with their sleáns - now stop, the picture was painted before the law was changed. Interesting how a day in the bog can land a fella in all sorts of, well lets say wan thing leads onto another. Ah another verse for ' Operation Ballythefireplace' - only now I get it, with the fireplace gone we had no use for turf! Kilkenny County Board must be delighted, let Shefflin go off and learn his intercounty trade and make the rookie mistakes that he'll learn spades from with another county. In the meantime, get some patsy in for the poison chalice that is Cody's immediate successor, Kilkenny's David Moyes as it were. Then Shefflin comes back with the experience and without having the pressure of being directly after Cody.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Oct 22, 2021 11:37:23 GMT
Shefflin's appointment fairly franks the form that you also need the best manager and given that Henry may have burnt bridges, it took convincing. On reflection, I wonder if Henry and Cody had a word? I suppose the Cats couldn't expect him to lie idle, what with no guarantees of 'if' or 'when' making a 'bird in the hand' scenario for King H. IMO this episode will probably kill off any such hesitations or indeed expectations, going forward. I suppose that 25 year gap between him and Cody tallies roughly with Dwyer with Kildare - was that the first big 'betrayal' and did the Aussie rules give Mick a bit of ammo? HQ weren't fond of this early on, just like they didn't like Bendix washing machines and so the guns were out. A convergence in teams might make management capability more a deciding factor and we are already seeing teams on an equal par fitness wise, S&C will be next and so on. Time to develop a GAA management school in ITT, now MTU, with the Rebels. Deenihan as Chairman of MTU will now hopefully busy himself with that assignment. But how come some fellas do get all the nice jobs? That last James had was stopping us cutting turf, and a picture hanging on the wall behind him in his ministerial office of his two pals sweating it out with their sleáns - now stop, the picture was painted before the law was changed. Interesting how a day in the bog can land a fella in all sorts of, well lets say wan thing leads onto another. Ah another verse for ' Operation Ballythefireplace' - only now I get it, with the fireplace gone we had no use for turf! Kilkenny County Board must be delighted, let Shefflin go off and learn his intercounty trade and make the rookie mistakes that he'll learn spades from with another county. In the meantime, get some patsy in for the poison chalice that is Cody's immediate successor, Kilkenny's David Moyes as it were. Then Shefflin comes back with the experience and without having the pressure of being directly after Cody. Shefflin delighted too, though the poison is weakening and by the time Brian sits down, well you never know, bird in the hand, etc! In any event a new manager gets 3 years and I did note 'years' mentioned by Galway GAA so this is not a temporary fix. Gosh there are some games ahead in both codes, will be great after this Covid crack, pressure will be off re GAA fixtures as there will be at least a few top flight games on every weekend, and that is before we even talk of surprises. Funny though how Limerick are the new Dubs but it is harder to do it in hurling, a big lead can die in 5 mins!
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 22, 2021 19:04:44 GMT
Shefflin's appointment fairly franks the form that you also need the best manager and given that Henry may have burnt bridges, it took convincing. On reflection, I wonder if Henry and Cody had a word? I suppose the Cats couldn't expect him to lie idle, what with no guarantees of 'if' or 'when' making a 'bird in the hand' scenario for King H. IMO this episode will probably kill off any such hesitations or indeed expectations, going forward. I suppose that 25 year gap between him and Cody tallies roughly with Dwyer with Kildare - was that the first big 'betrayal' and did the Aussie rules give Mick a bit of ammo? HQ weren't fond of this early on, just like they didn't like Bendix washing machines and so the guns were out. A convergence in teams might make management capability more a deciding factor and we are already seeing teams on an equal par fitness wise, S&C will be next and so on. Time to develop a GAA management school in ITT, now MTU, with the Rebels. Deenihan as Chairman of MTU will now hopefully busy himself with that assignment. But how come some fellas do get all the nice jobs? That last James had was stopping us cutting turf, and a picture hanging on the wall behind him in his ministerial office of his two pals sweating it out with their sleáns - now stop, the picture was painted before the law was changed. Interesting how a day in the bog can land a fella in all sorts of, well lets say wan thing leads onto another. Ah another verse for ' Operation Ballythefireplace' - only now I get it, with the fireplace gone we had no use for turf! Kilkenny County Board must be delighted, let Shefflin go off and learn his intercounty trade and make the rookie mistakes that he'll learn spades from with another county. In the meantime, get some patsy in for the poison chalice that is Cody's immediate successor, Kilkenny's David Moyes as it were. Then Shefflin comes back with the experience and without having the pressure of being directly after Cody. Do you think so? I'd say they are stunned
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Post by thehermit on Nov 6, 2021 10:01:01 GMT
Facebook has reminded me that this day last year was the Sunday of the Cork catastrophe!! A black day all round and in retrospect the beginning of the end for Peter. Lets just say I pretended the internet had gone in my place the next day to dodge some Zoom meetings and nurse my hangover
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Nov 6, 2021 23:22:50 GMT
Pat Spillane Jnr won man of the match playing for Judes in the Dublin semi final on RTE this evening. He was supposed to be very impressive. Could anyone who watched it give a comment on what level he’s at?
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