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Post by kingdomcome on Aug 6, 2006 23:51:11 GMT
Congradulations to Jack and the lads. That 2nd half performance was probably one of the best i've seen from a kerry team in quite a while (better than '86 even). found myself cheering for Cork in the 2nd game (thats a first) on 2 counts firstly I was hoping that the players would have something to make them raise their game in the semis after a superb performance against Armagh. With Cork there is Revenge for the Munster Final and secondly I didn't want them to have to face another Northern County. Looking foreward to seeing how Dara gets on against Nicolas Murphy should be a tussle in midfield. Otherwise I thought Cork were pedesterian in alot of areas in the field against Donegal. Is Paul Galvin available for the semis?
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Post by SteelFixer on Aug 6, 2006 23:58:27 GMT
I'm speechless really ! That scond half performance yesterday was like something from a different planet ! Going in at half time I really thought the writing was on the wall for us, but the way the guys came out and performed in the second half was unbelievable ! There was a passion and willingness to get stuck in, shown there yesterday that I have'nt seen by a Kerry team in many a year ! Armagh themselves were probably surprised by the intensity and physicality thay Kerry confronted them in the second half ! If they bring this type of football into the semi, then Cork could be looking at an even bigger hammering than 2002 and 2005 ! It might sound like I'm getting a bit carried away, but theres noway Cork would have lived in that second half yesteray !
Finally, I am going to finish on a sour note ! I dont want to sound like I'm 'nit picking' but the behaviour of Donaghy and a minority of the Kerry fans yesterday, really dissapointed me !
The constant goading and confrontation that Donaghy engaged in with the Armagh players throughout the game yesterday was really the pits ! I dont know what he thinks he is achieving by it or who he is trying to impress, but it smacks of petulent arrogance and is a very poor reflection on Donaghy's character ! Usually when a forward gets a goal, their first instinct is to punch the air or go and celebrate with their team mates, but Donaghy's first reaction was to stick his face into Hearty's and taunt him ! This type of carry on is not in the spirit of the game and is a very bad example to young kids ! It was such a shame considering the game he had ! You could argue that Donaghy was probably been provoked by the Armagh lads, but putting the ball in the net or over the bar is answer enough ! Maurice Fitz used get dogs abuse over the years, and this is how he used respond to it !
The sizeable minority of Kerry fans who started cheering every pass when Kerry were playing keep ball towards the end of the game should also be ashamed of themselves ! This is a feature which has crept into the GAA in recent years and its not nice at all ! I can remember it happening to us in the semi final in 2001 and I did'nt like it ! Kerry supporters have always shown the upmost humility in victory and it should stay that way ! It was a real shame, because the Armagh supporters are the finest crowd I've ever come accross in my travels to Croke Park and there has always been a very good rapport between ourselves and them ! They were very gracious in defeat in 2000 and humble in victory in 2002 and seeing that this was probably the last time we'd see a lot of these great players in Croke Park, it was'nt a nice atmosphere to go out in !
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Post by RashersTierney on Aug 7, 2006 6:27:17 GMT
If he tried that with Clucko he'd be carried off after the next challenge
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Post by nicoshea on Aug 7, 2006 13:01:48 GMT
:DALL YOU HAVE TO SAY IS WELL DONE TO THE WHOLE KERRY PANEL, MANAGEMENT, PLAYERS WATER BOYS ETC.... THEY PLAYED FANTASTIC, SEEING JACK O CONNOR JUMP INTO DARRAGHS ARMS AFTER THE MATCH WAS DELIGHTFUL...... HOPE THINGS ARE GOING TO STAY LIKE THAT, WHAT A GREAT SIGHT TO SEE
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 7, 2006 14:54:03 GMT
Steelfixer..... I agree.
I sat thru the taunting by Meath supporters in 2001 ans it was horrible. As the old saying goes......." You should walk aisy when your jug is full".
Donaghy is young and will learn....... it cant have been easy in there on th edge of the square!
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Post by scooter on Aug 7, 2006 14:56:48 GMT
lads anywhere i can get de match on the net and watch it as im away from home now for last 6 months and have tried getting games to no avail..........cheers
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Post by Dermot on Aug 7, 2006 16:06:31 GMT
Well played fella's - I though Armagh might just pip yez but the second half blew them away.
The O'Se's must have had a wee meeting before they went out and decided they were going to be the difference and along with good fielding from Donaghy, I think they were the difference. Thats the first game T O'Se has played in this years championship and christ did it make some difference - The 3 of them were sublime.
I feel sorry for some of the Armagh players for not getting their second AI - I think we'll not see a few of them again which is a pity.
You also have to feel sorry for big Joe and I bet he wishes he'd never said those imortal words "a good team wins 1 All Ireland, a great team wins 2" !
Well done Kerry, hard luck Armagh - Dublin I think will be the biggest stumbling block left - What way will caffrey try to sort out Donaghy ? - He'll have to have some plan.
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Post by branch on Aug 7, 2006 17:23:05 GMT
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Post by buck02 on Aug 7, 2006 19:57:09 GMT
It doesnt get much sweeter than that, does it!
A huge well done to the team and management on last Saturdays display. Given all the doom and gloom a only 3 weeks previously it was probably the best performance of a Kerry team since the breakthrough year of 97.
I thought the backs did a good job overall. Tom Sull & Mike Mc are unlikely to come up against as good a pair as Clarke & McDonald (who were superb it must be said) again this year and they could have done an awful lot worse. Mike did give away some soft frees however. Aidan Mahony struggled in the first half but was very solid in the 2nd half. Marc & Tom Se gave 2nd half displays as good as any they've put in. Seamus tidied up a rake of ball and distributed it smartly as alsways.
Tommy Griffin can be well satisfied with his 55 minutes. He got on the ball a lot and set a good few attacks in motion. Won a few breaks and helped out the half back line. What can you say about Darragh, for a man with that mileage on the clock he was outstanding.
Paul Galvin will obviously gutted to have been sent off but in fairness the provocation he got was a disgrace. For the vital score of the game (Donaghys goal) it was Galvin who dispossesed the Armagh defender and this must be highlighted. Brosnan took his goal well and made some telling contributions in a defensive role when he moved midfield for the last 15 mins. Sean Sullivan will be well happy with the time he put in on the pitch. His diagonal balls into the full forward line caused real trouble for Armagh.
Despite kicking some poor wides I though MFR did a reasonable job. He picked out a lot of breaks from Donaghy and laid it off again for scores. Must start again the next day. Donaghy, after a quiet first 20 mins, really came into it after that. That goal will go down in Kerry folklore, cant really say any more than that! Gooch improved again from the Longford game and is coming into form at the right time. The captaincy seems to suit him and I'm sure theres a lot more to come from him yet.
JOC was criticised after the Cork replay for his poor use of the bench. We must congratulate him on this aspect after Saturday. All subs brought in played a vital role in the win, they scored 1-4 between them remember.
Having often criticised the referees of Kerry games this year I must say I though Goldrick handled the game very well the last day. Didnt let Armagh get away with any sort of crap and this definately helped us.
And to the few thousand Kerry fans who were there on Saturday well done. I must say I was disappointed, but not surprised when I walked ino the Hill before the game to see the scatter of Kerry fans throughout the ground. Those who went though wont forget that game in a hurry!
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Post by RashersTierney on Aug 7, 2006 21:31:00 GMT
Well played fella's - I though Armagh might just pip yez but the second half blew them away. The O'Se's must have had a wee meeting before they went out and decided they were going to be the difference and along with good fielding from Donaghy, I think they were the difference. Thats the first game T O'Se has played in this years championship and christ did it make some difference - The 3 of them were sublime. I feel sorry for some of the Armagh players for not getting their second AI - I think we'll not see a few of them again which is a pity. You also have to feel sorry for big Joe and I bet he wishes he'd never said those imortal words "a good team wins 1 All Ireland, a great team wins 2" ! Well done Kerry, hard luck Armagh - Dublin I think will be the biggest stumbling block left - What way will caffrey try to sort out Donaghy ? - He'll have to have some plan. Two words: Jay-o
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Post by phpearse on Aug 7, 2006 22:04:57 GMT
Very enjoyable game, the championship needed a good game and Armagh and Kerry delivered. Armagh should have been further ahead at the end of the first half but Kerry's second half was very good. Although they will do well to remember that there was just 2 points in the game with 6 minutes left. Great finish and some mistakes meant that the score line flattered them a little.
Found myself cheering when Donaghy scored the goal. So there is a bit of Tyrone in him with the 'in your face' to Hearty after the goal. Omagh is only a few miles from Dromore so maybe that's something he picked up from Ricey.
Don't believe any of this Ulster monkey craic. So Kerry lose 2 games to Tyrone and 1 to Armagh. Swings and roundabouts. All three teams have proven very competitive over the past few years and all 3 have lifted the standard.
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Post by sullyschoice on Aug 7, 2006 22:27:00 GMT
PH
I think the Ulster thing is very important, if not to the players then to the supporters. It is a huge psychological barrier that has been lifted. If they win the Sam no one can accuse them of not beating Tyrone or Armagh.
I will admit that I was one of those who cheered tha passes at the end. I will make no apologies for it. I do not feel ashamed for it. It was borne of a huge sense of relief and because of how happy I felt on the day. Words will nopt express how happy Saturdays performance made me feel. And if some sanctimonious people feel that I left our tradition down by cheering then too bad. I enjoyed it and so did a lot of the small kerry contingent present. I am not hanging my head in shame. However I would be fearful for Donaghy and Galvin for their temperaments in future games.
I give credit to Armagh for playing football . I have had very bad personal experience with Armagh supporters in Croke Park ( physically abusing my 78 year old father at the time) but I could not fault them last saturday. I am big enough not to tar everyone with the same brush
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Post by tyroneperson on Aug 8, 2006 0:05:36 GMT
Don't mean to be a party pooper but I think there have been times when you have tarred northern fans with the same brush, just saying, and calling us brits was a bit petty too.
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Post by tyroneperson on Aug 8, 2006 0:17:57 GMT
oh and i do appreciate how annoyed you would be following your dad being abused, dont get me wrong, i would be pissed off too
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Post by smellUlater on Aug 8, 2006 0:32:46 GMT
First of all I have to say that was one of the finest exhibitionists in football i have witnessed in a long long time. It was a day to be proud of being a kerryman and shout it from the rooftop. Kerry played some sublime football in beating Mayo in the 2004 final and their march through the championship in 2003 but Saturday's performance topped the lot. Jack and the selectors can retire happy men at the "end of September" happy men after dismantling a great Armagh side.
I came away from Pairc Ui Chaoimh after the replay quietly confident that kerry were on the up and would be in the championship long after cork were gone and now we have the chance to put a stop to their aspirations.Thinki made a comment saying this in the topic of the munster replay but i can't be sure!!
I have watched the game twice since and it gets better each time, we were just about hanging on in the 1st half but the 2 points we got before half time was pivotal in turning around the game.
Backs were a little shaky in the 1st half but forwards of the quality and strength of Clarke and McDonnell are never going to be shackled all through in a big game in croke park. In fairness the fullback line stuck to their guns and came out on top and kept the 2 boys at bay apart from clarke scoring 2 real beaties.
The half back line was great, mahony had a tricky start but was superb after, the se's and moynihan 2 thumbs up. Was nice to see O Rourke quitened and taken off before the end.
Our midfield was top notch dara had the game of his life and tommy well supported him and picked up a nice few breaks and worked his socks off.
Half forward line worked like busy bees and sean sullivan brings that extra football quality into the the half forward line, overall he might not have the same workrate as others in this line but he sure does know where the posts are and is probably kerry's most threatening wing forward in the entire squad.He also did his fairshare of work the last day too. my first reaction to brosnan was that he was poor and that the game passed him by a bit but looking back over it,alright he hadn't too much ball in his hand but it was his best workmanlike performance i have ever seen him play the number of interceptions and breaks he got was unreal.Great turnover on our own endline was inspiring to see. Galvin worked his socks off made a great interception that led to one of our goals. But i think he is playing too close to the edge, he made a few dirty strokes off the ball (not only in retaliation) and it was an act of stupidity at throwing the bottle.His sending off and clarkes 2nd wonder point got armagh right back into the game at a time when kerry's gander was well up.On anoher time that sending off could have been so costly.
Gooch has he ever played so little ball in agame?, but what he did, he did very well. Fair dues to him in getting his game back on track. Donaghy was immense at full forward scored one of the most satisfying and lifting goals ever scored by anyone in a kerry jersey.The picture on the front of the Sunday indo should be framed of a sprawled francie bellew on his knees reminded me a a defeated roman gladiator on the ground waiting for his conquerer to give him the fatal stab of a sword.For a lanky fella that might reming one of bambi on ice at times he took it well. jesus did he take some punishment throughout from fb and the goalie.What is it with these northern goalies and these intimadatory tactics.Donaghy u answered themi nthe best way possible. Mike Frank i thought was lucky t stay on for as long as he did, how anyone can say he played well is beyond me. He kicked 5 wides and each and everyone of them was worse than the last one, Gooch kicked 5/6 wides in the munster replay but there was a touch of misfortune in them unlike with Mike Frank's efforts. MF wasn't crap by any means but i do think he will be dropped for the semi final.Overall in the 2 games he started in the last few weeks he just hasn't produced the goods.
Fair play to all the subs they all contributd greatly. Darren O Sullivan batteled well, jeez he did well to hold on the ball near the touchline once his strength is deceiving and good to see him nailing the final nail into armagh's coffin. Brian Sheehan kicked a real pressure point if he mised that and armagh went back and scored the next point their would have been only a point between them and god knows what would have happened. But at the end of the day he is only their for the frees until he ups his performances.Declan O Sullivan thought played very well when he came on,he gave Francie a bit of a roasting when he moved into full forward and kicked a great point.Eamon Fitz again did a fine job coming off the bench and kicked a wicked point.
Finally he mightn't say it but this was a great 2 finger salute to a lot of the supporters in kerry and to a lot of the members on this forum from jack O Connor. jesus when things are going badly ye know how to kick someone when their down. Would be look over a lot of the quotes. i say joc took the booing in pairc ui chaoimh on board as much as declan o sullivan. that hasto go down as one of the most disgustings acts i have seen in a game and i hope ye are ashamded of ye.Would also like to see the people who were abusive of joc after joc made his comments about the people going to the game to critise instead of get behind kerry. This performance was 2 fingers up to a lot of people.
Also i wonder if we will see much of declan o sullivan in a kerry jersey next year. i would very much doubt it, u swear there was a ghost coming on the field when decan was introduced and he answered his critics with putting in a fine performance.I remember the 2 hassets taking a year out after the medal debacle,in my opinion dos would have more of a reason not to play for a team that the supporters are against him. Richard Sadlier(an ex soccer player with millwall incase noo ne knows who he is) once said in an interview that he used to get booed anytime he played for millwal by his own supporters,even when he scored he got booed initially. but after a certain period of time the fans started cherring his goals but he had their boos so blocked outhe didn't realise he was actually getting cheered until his teammates told him.Wouldn't be surprised if DOS dosen't give a damn about kerry supports anymore and my advice to him is to do his thing. Have kerry supporters turned the same as soccer thugs. The main reason i support DOS so much is i think apart from Gooch, declan was our biggest star to come through the ranks in the last few years and now ye want to see the back of him.Disgusting. Also kerry will take some beating now as Tomas and Goooch seem to be nearly back to the form of last year. I reckon cork will be lucky to avoid a good pasting the next day if kerry get off to a good start
Finally i have to say i have never seen a site like i did when armagh won the all ireland in 2002 and a sea of orange around the pitch they celebrated it likekerry supports never could but lads it is time we got our crown back!!
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Post by ciarrai33 on Aug 8, 2006 8:51:46 GMT
Donaghey spoke in an interview afterwards about his tussle with Francie. He admitted that he was'nt getting much verbal abuse of Francie and said that the Goalie was far worse. So in that situation I think it is quiet acceptable for him to stick it to Hearty after the goal. He was obviously well coached on how to react on the day as he was up to the umpire within 5 min pointing something out.
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Post by eastciarrai on Aug 8, 2006 10:55:33 GMT
;D ;D ;D wow. we were brilliant.Stylish, tough, quick, accurate, tenacious and most importantly was the fact we kept fighting all the way. What was most satisfying was that armagh were very good aswell. it was'nt a lucky one off punch, a bad day for armagh, no we needed to fight and dig deep and we did. Every player did well. I've not seen kerry tackle like that before. the armagh lads were spilling balls they'd usually hold. I also said before longford that if marc moved to half back he be a hugh threat and he was.dara was immense hands like glue knocking lads over driving at the defense. i also darren would be better off the bench and that worked too. but the main move is donaghty its like the missing piece to the jigsaw. my worry before the game was that the pony was gettin a bit slow but the legs held out well, keep the fingers crossed it will stay that way. big problem in next game is if we start to lose midfield and donaghty has to come out and we start struggling. any suggetions what to do if this happens. Bar injury the team should stay the same, if its not broken dont fix it. sheehan for the frees is maybe the only question but does he give much else, id still give mike frank another chance to find his shooting boots. eoin brosnan again quiten alot of his critics who were dropping him before the longford game. I hope someone took my bet on page 10 for brosnan for first goal at 9/1. i felt almost embarred in the hill because i brought my flag there was only about four there. some one brought a bouraan aswell which started many a chant. my flag got plenty use anyway and im still hoarse. about half an hour before hand there was no one there i presumed they were stuck in traffic but it never really filled up. i felt like mel gibson in braveheart before the battle when his two allies turned and took off home. fair play to everyone there we made plenty noise. the armagh fans on the hill were unusaully quite, maybe they were worried! my chest felt like it got pumped up i was so proud of the fight we gave. one again well done lads. i'l have me flag back for the rebels.
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Post by ruralgaa on Aug 8, 2006 11:10:14 GMT
great performance. i can't elobrate on what everyone else has said.....backing brosnan for first goal scorer added further sweetness to the win!
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Post by eastciarrai on Aug 8, 2006 11:20:32 GMT
sure did paid for day and will pay for probably the cork game aswell.
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Post by Tadhgeen on Aug 8, 2006 12:47:56 GMT
The sweetest victory in a long while.
Especially as Armagh did everything in their power including playing good football, riling our players, slowing down play when Kerry were on a roll at beginning of second half, feigning injury and some players falling to the ground rather easily.
Kerry have finally withstood all of the above and did so in style.
A small few comments as the subject has been well covered :-
Not excusing Donaghy's goading of Hearty but didn't Hearty give Donaghy a little belt when he was on his knees in an earlier encounter?
Murphy unable to use short kick out (gave away a point in 1st half, could have been a goal)- he will need to improve here against Cork especially with their high catching capability at midfield.
Didn't Armagh Maor Uisce direct at least 2 punches to Galvin's head? Was he punished?
Did anybody else think it strange that Sean Sull was subbed? I know Darren got the goal but Sean was doing the biz, I thought.
Mike Frank did ok apart from his kicking - I wouldn't knock him for that - at least he is winning ball and having a pot. He is also laying off good ball for others to score.
Why doesn't Gooch take all the inside frees? Mike Frank missed a fairly easy one and I think Gooch would have scored with his eyes closed. In response to Smell above, I do not agree taht Declan might take time out next year. Nor do I believe that the supporters are against him.
Player and mentor celebrations at the end was magnificent to see as was the sheepish look on Brolly's face after game.
I missed the game due to work committments but have booked my ticket for the Cork game.
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Post by homerj on Aug 8, 2006 13:01:01 GMT
one my the sweetest if not the sweetest day i have ever had in croker, pure magic to be there, as regarding the donaghy taunting of the keeper, I am pretty sure he got plenty of abuse off hearty throughout the game,all personal and when he stuck it past him, he was well entitled to shove it in his face, well done star ya legend!
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Post by eastciarrai on Aug 8, 2006 13:05:01 GMT
as was the sheepish look on Brolly's face after game.
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Post by tyroneperson on Aug 8, 2006 13:18:50 GMT
The sweetest victory in a long while. Especially as Armagh did everything in their power including playing good football, riling our players, slowing down play when Kerry were on a roll at beginning of second half, feigning injury and some players falling to the ground rather easily. Kerry have finally withstood all of the above and did so in style. A small few comments as the subject has been well covered :- Not excusing Donaghy's goading of Hearty but didn't Hearty give Donaghy a little belt when he was on his knees in an earlier encounter? Murphy unable to use short kick out (gave away a point in 1st half, could have been a goal)- he will need to improve here against Cork especially with their high catching capability at midfield. Didn't Armagh Maor Uisce direct at least 2 punches to Galvin's head? Was he punished? Did anybody else think it strange that Sean Sull was subbed? I know Darren got the goal but Sean was doing the biz, I thought. Mike Frank did ok apart from his kicking - I wouldn't knock him for that - at least he is winning ball and having a pot. He is also laying off good ball for others to score. Why doesn't Gooch take all the inside frees? Mike Frank missed a fairly easy one and I think Gooch would have scored with his eyes closed. In response to Smell above, I do not agree taht Declan might take time out next year. Nor do I believe that the supporters are against him. Player and mentor celebrations at the end was magnificent to see as was the sheepish look on Brolly's face after game. I missed the game due to work committments but have booked my ticket for the Cork game. Sometime Brolly is good craic but other times I don't know what the hell he's on. He sure loves the sound of his own voice-better than someone boring I guess. Kerry were cynical at times too, I dont know if provoked, and Kerry can hit as hard as Armagh can-they needed to in order to win. I agree with everything else pretty much.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 8, 2006 13:19:18 GMT
Smell, I take quite a bit of offence to your post.
A) I cheered when Declan came off, and have said here numerous times why. B) I did find Jacks comments about the Kerry fans were over the top, and have said so here.
I openly apologised on the forum straight after the game for my questioning his team selection and will do so again. But as to the above, I stand by the above and most certainly am not ashamed.
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Post by ruralgaa on Aug 8, 2006 13:46:18 GMT
sean sullivan's was given an ice pack straight away 4 his leg...maybe that was why he was withdrawn.
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Post by eastciarrai on Aug 8, 2006 13:52:24 GMT
they say to sin is human but to forgive is godly. go now stacks and say two hail marys and an our father. carry on with your act of contrition.
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Post by Dermot on Aug 8, 2006 14:33:27 GMT
Well played fella's - I though Armagh might just pip yez but the second half blew them away. The O'Se's must have had a wee meeting before they went out and decided they were going to be the difference and along with good fielding from Donaghy, I think they were the difference. Thats the first game T O'Se has played in this years championship and christ did it make some difference - The 3 of them were sublime. I feel sorry for some of the Armagh players for not getting their second AI - I think we'll not see a few of them again which is a pity. You also have to feel sorry for big Joe and I bet he wishes he'd never said those imortal words "a good team wins 1 All Ireland, a great team wins 2" ! Well done Kerry, hard luck Armagh - Dublin I think will be the biggest stumbling block left - What way will caffrey try to sort out Donaghy ? - He'll have to have some plan. Two words: Jay-o There's a novel idea .................. Jayo to mark Donaghy............... Could be a match winner
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 8, 2006 14:37:00 GMT
Gee, I never knew Jay-o played for Laois
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Post by Dermot on Aug 8, 2006 14:37:03 GMT
PH I think the Ulster thing is very important, if not to the players then to the supporters. It is a huge psychological barrier that has been lifted. If they win the Sam no one can accuse them of not beating Tyrone or Armagh. Well technically...................Tyrone ? .............. But there's always next year
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 8, 2006 18:01:32 GMT
I thnk we should round off this thread with a quote I put up the day before the All Ireland final last September:
"It is not so very long ago, since the very knowledgeable people were shaking their heads and dishevelling their hair over what they pronounced the corpse of Kerry football. Kerry, they said, had paid the penalty for being too rigid and tradition bound. The game had passed them out. Failure to adapt to new ideas and new methods had found Kerry lagging behind. And while Down and Galway and others were dividing the spoils between them, the funeral of Kerry football was being well attended by those who could hardly catch and only kicked when no alternative appeared."
Notes in the 1970 All Ireland Final programme.
(From God and the Referee - Unforgettable GAA Quotations, by Eoghan Corry).
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