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Post by pipsqueak01 on Jul 19, 2023 11:38:12 GMT
How is Paul Murphy a weak link in justice to the man. He's having a great season. And let JB be anonymous as long as he keeps Fenton the same like in the past. Paul Murphys lack of physical strength is his weak point, Dublin exploited it in the drawn game in 2019. He had a poor enogh game against Derry and was taken off. Hopefully JB can nullify Fenton but if not it will be Dublin bossing midfield He was marking Niall Toner who was taken off. Toner had barely any involvement and looked disinterested in possession. He made a goal saving block and somehow managed to not touch the ball on the ground. O’Beaglaoich was always going to come on as fresh legs in the final twenty even if Murphy and White were having stormers
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Jul 19, 2023 14:54:52 GMT
"but GAA, from what I know, doesn't legislate for this". And that is the point, forget about other sports. That should be the end of the discussion. If you do want to liken it to another sport it's like two committed soccer players jumping for a header when there's only going to be one winner and the other gets clattered - (a) it rarely ever happens (b) just because the outcome is bad doesn't make it a foul It was mentioned that if this was another game (rugby) that Ryan would be penalised and carded. Actually it would be more likely that the player on the ground would be penalised for taking a player out in the air. If he'd not turned it's quiet likely that he'd have tumbled over the player head first. If it were soccer how many red cards would be dished out for handball?
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Post by jackiel on Jul 19, 2023 18:39:00 GMT
In the programme for last Sunday they listed the London team to play Kilkenny on the junior final instead of NY. I just copped it now. Programmes were printed Thursday, All 4 teams involved are listed as they didn't play the semi til Friday night.
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Post by piskin on Jul 19, 2023 23:11:46 GMT
Paul Murphys lack of physical strength is his weak point, Dublin exploited it in the drawn game in 2019. He had a poor enogh game against Derry and was taken off. Hopefully JB can nullify Fenton but if not it will be Dublin bossing midfield He was marking Niall Toner who was taken off. Toner had barely any involvement and looked disinterested in possession. He made a goal saving block and somehow managed to not touch the ball on the ground. O’Beaglaoich was always going to come on as fresh legs in the final twenty even if Murphy and White were having stormers As I said earlier Dublin will target him again if he starts,
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Post by Jo90 on Jul 19, 2023 23:27:10 GMT
"but GAA, from what I know, doesn't legislate for this". And that is the point, forget about other sports. That should be the end of the discussion. If you do want to liken it to another sport it's like two committed soccer players jumping for a header when there's only going to be one winner and the other gets clattered - (a) it rarely ever happens (b) just because the outcome is bad doesn't make it a foul It was mentioned that if this was another game (rugby) that Ryan would be penalised and carded. Actually it would be more likely that the player on the ground would be penalised for taking a player out in the air. If he'd not turned it's quiet likely that he'd have tumbled over the player head first. If it was rugby Derry would have had about 10 red cards from all the deliberate knock-ons, intentional offsides, failing to release the ball after a tackle, failing to bind and coming in to the breakdown from the side. On the plus side for Derry the score would have been 0-0 as all the frees were scored off the hands so none would count nor any score that was scored from play.
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Post by homerj on Jul 19, 2023 23:28:43 GMT
i reckon an unchanged side for the final and if not, maximum 1 change - SOB in for AS.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jul 20, 2023 7:15:09 GMT
It was mentioned that if this was another game (rugby) that Ryan would be penalised and carded. Actually it would be more likely that the player on the ground would be penalised for taking a player out in the air. If he'd not turned it's quiet likely that he'd have tumbled over the player head first. If it was rugby Derry would have had about 10 red cards from all the deliberate knock-ons, intentional offsides, failing to release the ball after a tackle, failing to bind and coming in to the breakdown from the side. On the plus side for Derry the score would have been 0-0 as all the frees were scored off the hands so none would count nor any score that was scored from play. The above explains, perfectly, the irrelevance of projecting a single Gaa play into another sporting code for rule reference.
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Post by percentageplay on Jul 20, 2023 13:22:49 GMT
If it was rugby Derry would have had about 10 red cards from all the deliberate knock-ons, intentional offsides, failing to release the ball after a tackle, failing to bind and coming in to the breakdown from the side. On the plus side for Derry the score would have been 0-0 as all the frees were scored off the hands so none would count nor any score that was scored from play. The above explains, perfectly, the irrelevance of projecting a single Gaa play into another sporting code for rule reference. Hi lads, can I just respond and clear up my analogy regarding this incident. I was doing my best to avoid getting drawn back into this but some posters here are choosing to make fun of comments rather than engage which is fine if that is the way they choose to debate. First things first, I did not say that the incident deserved any kind of a card and I also said that there is no rule that I know of that would result in a card for the incident. I do maintain however that the incident should have resulted in a free out. My use of the rugby analogy was purely to demonstrate how another code deals with dangerous occurrences and I believe that it was a dangerous occurrence regardless of it being undeliberate or not but, as I said, the GAA don't have a rule for such things. It perhaps something that should be looked into or debated. My main point was that the incident was dismissed as being part of the game, which is fine, but, correct me if I am, most here would be up in arms if a Kerry player was on the receiving end of it. Plenty comments about blue tinted glasses on another thread.
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Post by Aodhan on Jul 20, 2023 15:47:54 GMT
If it was rugby Derry would have had about 10 red cards from all the deliberate knock-ons, intentional offsides, failing to release the ball after a tackle, failing to bind and coming in to the breakdown from the side. On the plus side for Derry the score would have been 0-0 as all the frees were scored off the hands so none would count nor any score that was scored from play. The above explains, perfectly, the irrelevance of projecting a single Gaa play into another sporting code for rule reference. At the start of the second half in 2019 I thought that Eoin Murchan was going to go in for a try.
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Post by otobeawinner on Jul 23, 2023 1:30:55 GMT
The above explains, perfectly, the irrelevance of projecting a single Gaa play into another sporting code for rule reference. At the start of the second half in 2019 I thought that Eoin Murchan was going to go in for a try. just wondering but in rugby the player who is in the air cannot be touched by the defending player until they land. Nowadays its a card of penalty at least unless they lead with a boot or something. So S Ryan turning his arsenal to defend himself for winning a ball is 100% OK. As for gaa you jump and win the ball so it's fair game. What's the furoo about?
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