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Post by themanfromthewest on Apr 3, 2019 17:48:31 GMT
What damage will be done to a team's mental state if they lose in the Super 8 clash with Dublin in Croke Park? Will the manner of defeat (or victory for that matter) make a big difference in a rematch in the final? Connacht winner open with a home game v Ulster R/Up or qualifier, while Leinster meet Munster R/Up or qualifier. Connacht winner plays Leinster winner the following week. The Ulster draw shows semi-finals of Cavan/Monaghan v Down/Armagh and Fermanagh/Donegal v Antrim/Tyrone/Derry, meaning at least one of Tyrone or Donegal will be in the qualifers. Mayo welcoming Stephen Rochford back in Castlebar v Donegal would be a tasty opening Super 8 fixture. You would almost be better off losing the Connacht final than winning it. Opening game for the champs will very likely be one of Tyrone, Donegal or Monaghan, then you are away to Dublin and then away to Munster runner up or qualifier, which could be anybody. That’s a tough, tough path.
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Post by piggott on Apr 3, 2019 18:01:18 GMT
There could be a shock defeat to New York at Gaelic Park on May 5th. Then take the scenic route.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Apr 3, 2019 18:04:56 GMT
Losing the Connacht final will have a difficult path as well...first off a qualifier which, as you say, could be anybody, then a trip to Killarney (hopefully), possibly Meath to follow, and a date with the Ulster champions to round it off.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Apr 3, 2019 18:14:42 GMT
Losing the Connacht final will have a difficult path as well...first off a qualifier which, as you say, could be anybody, then a trip to Killarney (hopefully), possibly Meath to follow, and a date with the Ulster champions to round it off. There are no easy paths naturally, but at this stage I doubt Galway or Mayo would fear a trip to Killarney the way they once would have, and would also back themselves in Croker v Meath or any team that beats them. Ulster champ at home is at least a 50/50 if not better.
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Post by homerj on Apr 3, 2019 21:46:34 GMT
those of ye on here who are congratulating mayo and happy to see them win anything, should watch the video doing the rounds tonight on social media. we are a bunch of k******s, tramps, c***s, f*****g f*****s and everything else.
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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 3, 2019 22:01:54 GMT
Sounds like one of those bare knuckle boxing videos where one side is calling out the other.
To many blows to the brain possibly
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Apr 3, 2019 22:21:26 GMT
those of ye on here who are congratulating mayo and happy to see them win anything, should watch the video doing the rounds tonight on social media. we are a bunch of k******s, tramps, c***s, f*****g f*****s and everything else. Where can I see this? Is it players or supporters?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 0:22:21 GMT
those of ye on here who are congratulating mayo and happy to see them win anything, should watch the video doing the rounds tonight on social media. we are a bunch of k******s, tramps, c***s, f*****g f*****s and everything else. Wow, and i am sure this video represents the views of all Mayo people.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Apr 4, 2019 2:22:13 GMT
Unless it’s a video of James Horan and the lads having a rant then I wouldn’t take much notice. Every county has its share of obnoxious fans including ourselves.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 4, 2019 7:34:09 GMT
I can't find anything.
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Post by taggert on Apr 4, 2019 8:20:47 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 4, 2019 8:24:52 GMT
Anything that creates an edge. James Horan has managed Mayo brilliant this spring. Looking forward to watching their progress this summer.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 4, 2019 8:26:07 GMT
those of ye on here who are congratulating mayo and happy to see them win anything, should watch the video doing the rounds tonight on social media. we are a bunch of k******s, tramps, c***s, f*****g f*****s and everything else. I've no idea why Kerry people worry about what Mayo fans do or say. Pointless stuff.
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Post by glengael on Apr 4, 2019 8:26:22 GMT
I thought the Pope had got that job, no? Geller was on Brexit duty when last I heard.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 4, 2019 8:31:42 GMT
I thought the Pope had got that job, no? Geller was on Brexit duty when last I heard. They have won the League since the Pope intervened!!!
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Post by taggert on Apr 4, 2019 8:40:55 GMT
Anything that creates an edge. James Horan has managed Mayo brilliant this spring. Looking forward to watching their progress this summer. While I hear what you are saying, Im actually looking forward to what Peter and Donie do in the coming months with the team to ready us for the Super 8's. A fully fit squad, dry ground and goid coaching, I think we will be decent ourselves...
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 4, 2019 8:52:42 GMT
I used to relish Mayo's misery but not since 2017 when they beat Kerry.
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Post by taibhse on Apr 4, 2019 9:10:46 GMT
Football is extremely tribal and it can provoke emotions that aren’t born of logic. We should be able to understand and tolerate that and we do.
Mayo is a naturally beautiful county. It’s not nature’s bit that I don’t like; God’s contribution is fine with me. No, it’s some of their supporters.
Seeing all opponents as enemies invariably leads to disrespect and clouds emotions that lead to some of the sh..e that gets posted and encouraged on social media. I’d recommend to them to try to see something more balanced and positive than things that feed on negativity towards every opponent and referee that they encounter.
Passion is never a reason to show disrespect, incivility or anti-social behaviour – ever!
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Post by homerj on Apr 4, 2019 10:03:52 GMT
those of ye on here who are congratulating mayo and happy to see them win anything, should watch the video doing the rounds tonight on social media. we are a bunch of k******s, tramps, c***s, f*****g f*****s and everything else. Wow, and i am sure this video represents the views of all Mayo people. im pretty sure it represents a huge portion of the county. they absolutely despise Kerry.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 10:22:46 GMT
😂😂😂😂
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Post by dc84 on Apr 4, 2019 10:26:23 GMT
Football is extremely tribal and it can provoke emotions that aren’t born of logic. We should be able to understand and tolerate that and we do. Mayo is a naturally beautiful county. It’s not nature’s bit that I don’t like; God’s contribution is fine with me. No, it’s some of their supporters. Seeing all opponents as enemies invariably leads to disrespect and clouds emotions that lead to some of the sh..e that gets posted and encouraged on social media. I’d recommend to them to try to see something more balanced and positive than things that feed on negativity towards every opponent and referee that they encounter. Passion is never a reason to show disrespect, incivility or anti-social behaviour – ever! Very true, i think people get very mixed up when it comes to sport i dispise the tyrone/dublin football teams when we are playing them. But only from a sporting perspective i think many kerry fans feel the same do i hate everyone from there of course not. A lot of people seem to find it hard to differentiate between the sporting contest on the field and after. Ps i still hate ryan mcmenamin😀
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 4, 2019 10:51:25 GMT
Not sure how it is a Mayo thing but it can be a soccer thing.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 4, 2019 10:55:00 GMT
I meant the semi final but either or. 2017 was a very civilised affair for Dublin when Mayo left the stage. Mayo take Dublin to places that no other team does. So if Dublin avoid Mayo on the way this year...they will be happy out Further to this.... I think the Dublin of 2018 was very different to the Dublin of 2015, 2016 and 2017 that found Mayo such a tough nut to crack. We dont know how Mayo would have coped with the 2018 iteration of Dublin...a team that hardly kicks the ball anymore and always retains possession and prods and probes till the shot is on. The mark used in the league was an alien concept in Dublins game at the moment so they just ignored it. The manner is which both sides gave away or lost possession last sunday would have been greeted by a big grin on Jim Gavins face. Give the ball away cheaply to Dublin and you would get it back cheaply.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 4, 2019 10:58:43 GMT
2017 was a very civilised affair for Dublin when Mayo left the stage. Mayo take Dublin to places that no other team does. So if Dublin avoid Mayo on the way this year...they will be happy out Further to this.... I think the Dublin of 2018 was very different to the Dublin of 2015, 2016 and 2017 that found Mayo such a tough nut to crack. We dont know how Mayo would have coped with the 2018 iteration of Dublin... a team that hardly kicks the ball anymore and always retains possession and prods and probes till the shot is on. The mark used in the league was an alien concept in Dublins game at the moment so they just ignored it. The manner is which both sides gave away or lost possession last sunday would have been greeted by a big grin on Jim Gavins face. Give the ball away cheaply to Dublin and you would get it back cheaply. I would say that is more about the opposition. They wouldn't play like that against Mayo I reckon.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 4, 2019 11:03:53 GMT
I might add that Limericks brand of hurling which consists of a series of 25 meter passes before the shot for a point from 100 yards is a poor spectacle. They hit 19 points and 19 wides. They never take the ball into the tackle so turnovers are eliminated. 38 shots is a shot every two minutes.
Part of the attraction of hurling was the mayhem and chaos of the game played at pace. Limericks game mirrors Dublin footballers now. Very effective but not a good to watch at less cerebral approaches.
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Post by Kingdomson on Apr 4, 2019 11:34:12 GMT
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Post by themanfromthewest on Apr 4, 2019 12:21:00 GMT
Further to this.... I think the Dublin of 2018 was very different to the Dublin of 2015, 2016 and 2017 that found Mayo such a tough nut to crack. We dont know how Mayo would have coped with the 2018 iteration of Dublin... a team that hardly kicks the ball anymore and always retains possession and prods and probes till the shot is on. The mark used in the league was an alien concept in Dublins game at the moment so they just ignored it. The manner is which both sides gave away or lost possession last sunday would have been greeted by a big grin on Jim Gavins face. Give the ball away cheaply to Dublin and you would get it back cheaply. I would say that is more about the opposition. They wouldn't play like that against Mayo I reckon.I’d agree. Dubs let the opposition set the terms of engagement. Against a blanket team they will hand pass the ball ad nauseum and work with runners down the wings to pull the defence out of shape, but if you want an aggressive shootout with quick ball going up and down the field they will happily oblige there too as they have the best middle eight in football and lethal forwards like Mannion and O’Callaghan to get the scores. I do think the latter is the only way to beat them but is anybody good enough to actually do it? I wouldn’t be surprised to see them caught out this year but I’ve said that the past four years too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 17:03:58 GMT
Can’t stand their fans either. Have seen plenty stuff over the years from their fans. Disgusting stuff. I hope they never win it. In all honesty I think Dublin will beat them again this year.
Dublin didn’t have their best league but I don’t think that bothered them either. I think Gavin wanted to use the league to find new talent and I think he achieved it.
He was looking for a back a midfielder and a forward to strengthen his squad and I think he got that. If Connolly comes back it will make them even stronger.
For me it’s Dublins to lose. Still have the strongest panel in the country and Kerry and mayo won’t beat them on their day.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 5, 2019 8:31:15 GMT
Anything that creates an edge. James Horan has managed Mayo brilliant this spring. Looking forward to watching their progress this summer. While I hear what you are saying, Im actually looking forward to what Peter and Donie do in the coming months with the team to ready us for the Super 8's. A fully fit squad, dry ground and goid coaching, I think we will be decent ourselves... It has the makings of a great summer of football. Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone, Galway, Donegal, Monaghan all chomping at the bit to take on the Dubs. Throw in a few newbies like Meath,etc and lets hope the Dubs get a proper challenge for the 5 in a row. Looking forward to seeing if the Super 8 concept comes of age this summer. I think the Super 8s have massive potential to define the championship going forward.
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Post by taggert on Apr 5, 2019 8:40:45 GMT
Assuming we win Munster, our first game in the S8 will almost certainly be be v Mayo or Galway (Connacht Runners up) in Killarney. As per last year, if a team loses their first game in the S8 series, its very hard to make it out of the group.
Both of these opponents are up there with the best of 'em, where pace, power, hardness and cynicism are concerned. Our last 2 summers have featured appalling displays against Galway ('18) and Mayo ('17) respectively, so Peter, Donie, Maurice and company will mist likely get the opportunity to buck that trend in 4 or 5 months time.
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