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Post by kerrygold on Apr 3, 2019 8:30:14 GMT
We can't place ourselves in their shoes. Some have become bitter, no doubt. Many are great though. After not winning 10 finals in Croker, I thought the outpouring of emotion was a sight to see. A lady beside me couldnt hold her phone up to take photos as her hand was shaking too much. The vast majority of Mayo supporters are dead sound. We have a few insufferable types in Kerry too. Well said. Sunday's outpouring was a bit like when Donegal won it some time back in the early 00s.
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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 3, 2019 8:51:36 GMT
I fully agree that most are spot on. And I have sat beside or near a fair share clowns from our own side including one who started a boxing match in 2000 v Galway. I just cant understand why someone would try and get involved in an argument with someone they dont know from Adam.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 3, 2019 9:09:54 GMT
I am pretty certain Cillian would have tapped over the 25 yards free to win the All Ireland in 2016... the free that wasnt given for the Bastick pickup at the end of the drawn game. Dublin would be trying to win 3inarow this year if that happened. If Croke Park was in Castlebar they too would have been helped over the line. It was a simple free that wasnt given to Mayo....simple compared to Rocks free in 2017 or Cluxtons in 2011 which won the All Irelands for Dublin It will be interesting to see if Croker want to complete the Dublin project this year or else lance the boil...... Kerry were around too long in 2011. Tinfoil hat stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 9:22:11 GMT
The disappointment I felt at losing on Sunday was massively reduced by seeing the joy of the Mayo supporters.
It was great to see and maybe it is OTT, so what.
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Post by dc84 on Apr 3, 2019 9:34:31 GMT
The disappointment I felt at losing on Sunday was massively reduced by seeing the joy of the Mayo supporters. It was great to see and maybe it is OTT, so what. Same here like most people ive met 8/10 are grand as for the other 2.. went with a mayo buddy i had to tell him that it was ok to belt out the green and red if he wanted!i think the dublin mayo rivalry is a little unhealthy now lot of dubs really really hate them
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Post by buck02 on Apr 3, 2019 10:10:18 GMT
It was a whole lot better watching the joy on the faces on the Mayo players and supporters than it was watching Cluxton collect the cup with a face on him like somebody was after p1ssing in his cornflakes.
They did annoy me with the booing of Seanie O Shea's (first?) free though. They are not very sportsman like but I suppose they do their best to make a difference.
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Post by oldschool on Apr 3, 2019 10:26:18 GMT
Did anyone notice the off the ball capers of Lee Keegan??
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 3, 2019 10:30:07 GMT
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Post by themanfromthewest on Apr 3, 2019 11:24:56 GMT
I don’t think we can read much in to rankings this time of year but even still I think it’s exceptionally generous to rank Kerry ahead of Mayo right now given they’ve beaten us twice in a fortnight.
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Post by greengold35 on Apr 3, 2019 11:25:41 GMT
Did anyone notice the off the ball capers of Lee Keegan?? It was a disgrace - pulling, dragging & generally acting the scamp - was seated low to the front and there were plenty of calls to the linesman ( ref Seán Hurson) to inform the ref; after about 5 mins, in a break of play, Hurson to be fair to him, raised his flag and spoke to the ref who nodded , walked away, and did nothing!!
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Post by dc84 on Apr 3, 2019 12:06:24 GMT
I don’t think we can read much in to rankings this time of year but even still I think it’s exceptionally generous to rank Kerry ahead of Mayo right now given they’ve beaten us twice in a fortnight. Was it not ranked on probability to make it? Ourselves and dublin the only real 100% guaranteed although it would be surprising if mayo, galway and tyrone didnt get there unless they drew each other in qualifiers
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 3, 2019 12:45:25 GMT
I don’t think we can read much in to rankings this time of year but even still I think it’s exceptionally generous to rank Kerry ahead of Mayo right now given they’ve beaten us twice in a fortnight. There won't be much between Kerry & Mayo if they meet later in the championship.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Apr 3, 2019 12:51:58 GMT
I don’t think we can read much in to rankings this time of year but even still I think it’s exceptionally generous to rank Kerry ahead of Mayo right now given they’ve beaten us twice in a fortnight. Was it not ranked on probability to make it? Ourselves and dublin the only real 100% guaranteed although it would be surprising if mayo, galway and tyrone didnt get there unless they drew each other in qualifiers Ah you could be right. Dubs and Kerry are most likely to make it due to playing in Leinster and Munster respectively. I took it that it was a ranked list of contenders for Sam. I think putting us at 2 would be optimistic at this stage in that case.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Apr 3, 2019 12:58:21 GMT
I don’t think we can read much in to rankings this time of year but even still I think it’s exceptionally generous to rank Kerry ahead of Mayo right now given they’ve beaten us twice in a fortnight. There won't be much between Kerry & Mayo if they meet later in the championship. I’d agree that we have capacity for improvement. I think mayo were probably at their best or near it on Sunday while we have a bit of headroom. Assuming we make it to the Super 8’s as Munster winners we have the Connacht runners up or their conquerors at home in Killarney in the first game afaik. Wouldn’t it be fun if that was mayo, it would probably sell out!! Galway or Roscommon just wouldn’t have the same edge.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 3, 2019 13:23:50 GMT
There won't be much between Kerry & Mayo if they meet later in the championship. I’d agree that we have capacity for improvement. I think mayo were probably at their best or near it on Sunday while we have a bit of headroom. Assuming we make it to the Super 8’s as Munster winners we have the Connacht runners up or their conquerors at home in Killarney in the first game afaik. Wouldn’t it be fun if that was mayo, it would probably sell out!! Galway or Roscommon just wouldn’t have the same edge. Surely Mayo will win in the West this year and will aim to catch Dublin cold in the semi final. Mayo to win Connacht for me in 2019.
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Post by buck02 on Apr 3, 2019 13:32:21 GMT
I’d agree that we have capacity for improvement. I think mayo were probably at their best or near it on Sunday while we have a bit of headroom. Assuming we make it to the Super 8’s as Munster winners we have the Connacht runners up or their conquerors at home in Killarney in the first game afaik. Wouldn’t it be fun if that was mayo, it would probably sell out!! Galway or Roscommon just wouldn’t have the same edge. Surely Mayo will win in the West this year and will aim to catch Dublin cold in the semi final. Mayo to win Connacht for me in 2019. They cant if they win Connacht. Connacht winners and Leinster winners in the same Super 8s group.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Apr 3, 2019 13:57:13 GMT
Leitrim are going to win Connacht.
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Post by Chinatown on Apr 3, 2019 14:01:36 GMT
After not winning 10 finals in Croker, I thought the outpouring of emotion was a sight to see. A lady beside me couldnt hold her phone up to take photos as her hand was shaking too much. The vast majority of Mayo supporters are dead sound. We have a few insufferable types in Kerry too. Well said. Sunday's outpouring was a bit like when Donegal won it some time back in the early 00s. yeah..knew a fell in '92 from Donegal, he came out of Croker with a lump of croke park in one hand and tears rolling down the face...depending on your view of half full / empty, us Kerry folks will never know such joy/pain...
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Post by dc84 on Apr 3, 2019 14:37:38 GMT
Well said. Sunday's outpouring was a bit like when Donegal won it some time back in the early 00s. yeah..knew a fell in '92 from Donegal, he came out of Croker with a lump of croke park in one hand and tears rolling down the face...depending on your view of half full / empty, us Kerry folks will never know such joy/pain... I felt like that in 97 as a 12 yr old tbh hopefully no kerry child will have to go through that ever !!!
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Post by themanfromthewest on Apr 3, 2019 14:40:19 GMT
Surely Mayo will win in the West this year and will aim to catch Dublin cold in the semi final. Mayo to win Connacht for me in 2019. They cant if they win Connacht. Connacht winners and Leinster winners in the same Super 8s group. That’s correct. Connacht winners will get two away games in the Super 8’s as a reward for their efforts.
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Post by dc84 on Apr 3, 2019 14:50:55 GMT
They cant if they win Connacht. Connacht winners and Leinster winners in the same Super 8s group. That’s correct. Connacht winners will get two away games in the Super 8’s as a reward for their efforts. Forgotten that tough enough depending on who the 2nd team is!
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 3, 2019 16:14:36 GMT
Surely Mayo will win in the West this year and will aim to catch Dublin cold in the semi final. Mayo to win Connacht for me in 2019. They cant if they win Connacht. Connacht winners and Leinster winners in the same Super 8s group. If Mayo win Connacht... it effectively means that Kerry will play either of Mayo or Dublin in the semi final provided Kerry finish in the top 2 in the super 8 group.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 3, 2019 16:18:54 GMT
They cant if they win Connacht. Connacht winners and Leinster winners in the same Super 8s group. If Mayo win Connacht... it effectively means that Kerry will play either of Mayo or Dublin in the semi final provided Kerry finish in the top 2 in the super 8 group. Who would Dublin rather meet, or do they care? I fully expect Mayo to win Connacht this year.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 3, 2019 16:36:02 GMT
If Mayo win Connacht... it effectively means that Kerry will play either of Mayo or Dublin in the semi final provided Kerry finish in the top 2 in the super 8 group. Who would Dublin rather meet, or do they care? I fully expect Mayo to win Connacht this year. I presume you mean who would Dublin prefer to meet in the final. If Mayo win Connacht they cant meet Dublin in the semi final.... assuming Dublin win Leinster which is a formality. I would say Dublin would much prefer to meet Kerry in the final...
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 3, 2019 16:41:52 GMT
Mayo have to beat NY away. I will be only a small bit shocked if they screw that up. If they win they play Leitrim or Rossies. I will be only mildly surprised if they screw that up.
Beating Galway in the final is a big deal too.
Mayo always make it hard for themselves... look at AOS getting sent off last week and only for Hennellys save they would have been beaten.
If they manage to reach the all ireland final they will be massive contenders.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 3, 2019 17:02:28 GMT
Who would Dublin rather meet, or do they care? I fully expect Mayo to win Connacht this year. I presume you mean who would Dublin prefer to meet in the final. If Mayo win Connacht they cant meet Dublin in the semi final.... assuming Dublin win Leinster which is a formality. I would say Dublin would much prefer to meet Kerry in the final... I meant the semi final but either or.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 3, 2019 17:06:08 GMT
Mayo have to beat NY away. I will be only a small bit shocked if they screw that up. If they win they play Leitrim or Rossies. I will be only mildly surprised if they screw that up. Beating Galway in the final is a big deal too. Mayo always make it hard for themselves... look at AOS getting sent off last week and only for Hennellys save they would have been beaten. If they manage to reach the all ireland final they will be massive contenders. Mayo have lost the last three Connacht championships and lost is it 5 games on the spin to Galway? They won't want to break momentum now by losing to Galway again. They will win Connacht this year. Kerry will go toe to toe with them if they meet in the Championsip.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 3, 2019 17:14:17 GMT
I presume you mean who would Dublin prefer to meet in the final. If Mayo win Connacht they cant meet Dublin in the semi final.... assuming Dublin win Leinster which is a formality. I would say Dublin would much prefer to meet Kerry in the final... I meant the semi final but either or. 2017 was a very civilised affair for Dublin when Mayo left the stage. Mayo take Dublin to places that no other team does. So if Dublin avoid Mayo on the way this year...they will be happy out
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Post by ballhopper34 on Apr 3, 2019 17:30:27 GMT
What damage will be done to a team's mental state if they lose in the Super 8 clash with Dublin in Croke Park? Will the manner of defeat (or victory for that matter) make a big difference in a rematch in the final?
Connacht winner open with a home game v Ulster R/Up or qualifier, while Leinster meet Munster R/Up or qualifier.
Connacht winner plays Leinster winner the following week.
The Ulster draw shows semi-finals of Cavan/Monaghan v Down/Armagh and Fermanagh/Donegal v Antrim/Tyrone/Derry, meaning at least one of Tyrone or Donegal will be in the qualifers.
Mayo welcoming Stephen Rochford back in Castlebar v Donegal would be a tasty opening Super 8 fixture.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 3, 2019 17:41:16 GMT
The Super 8s might kick off this year and come of age, hopefully.
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