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Post by fitz on Oct 14, 2015 15:24:44 GMT
So Sean O'Brien gets 1 week ... it seems pretty lenient but he would have got off scot free had he taken the Dubs legal team with him As Im sure most people are, Im completely devastated for POC & POM ...... especially POC as its his last hurrah ... its just not bloody fair The dream endings are few - Henry Shefflin and Darragh didn't do badly, nor wee Peter for that matter. O'Driscoll taken off injured in his last match after 15 mins. At least McMahon will serve the 1 match ban although the Chairman had a final jab... www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/1014/734691-philly-mcmahon-dublin-kerry/Dublin chairman Sean Shanley told the Irish Examiner: "He had a hearing and that’s where we will be leaving it. "We felt it was harsh, he was challenging for the ball with the player who was on the ground but we won’t be going any further with it.”
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 14, 2015 16:05:25 GMT
I see Kerry just have a handful of days to prepare for the McGrath Cup.
Return to collective training dates: Football - November 15th: Carlow, Down, Laois, Leitrim, Limerick, London, Waterford, Wicklow; December 1st: Antrim, Armagh, Cavan, Clare, Cork, Derry, Donegal, Fermanagh, Galway, Kildare, Longford, Louth, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Roscommon, Sligo, Tipperary, Westmeath, Wexfordd; December 8th: Mayo, Tyrone; December 29th: Dublin, Kerry.
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 14, 2015 16:58:25 GMT
I see Kerry just have a handful of days to prepare for the McGrath Cup. Return to collective training dates: Football - November 15th: Carlow, Down, Laois, Leitrim, Limerick, London, Waterford, Wicklow; December 1st: Antrim, Armagh, Cavan, Clare, Cork, Derry, Donegal, Fermanagh, Galway, Kildare, Longford, Louth, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Roscommon, Sligo, Tipperary, Westmeath, Wexfordd; December 8th: Mayo, Tyrone; December 29th: Dublin, Kerry. You can get around the ban a bit by having trials for players who didn't feature for the county this year. Not sure how the rule is worded - is it only players who played in the championship, or is it players named on a squad for championship games and whether league and/or McGrath cup is included or excluded.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 14, 2015 17:14:48 GMT
I see Kerry just have a handful of days to prepare for the McGrath Cup. Return to collective training dates: Football - November 15th: Carlow, Down, Laois, Leitrim, Limerick, London, Waterford, Wicklow; December 1st: Antrim, Armagh, Cavan, Clare, Cork, Derry, Donegal, Fermanagh, Galway, Kildare, Longford, Louth, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Roscommon, Sligo, Tipperary, Westmeath, Wexfordd; December 8th: Mayo, Tyrone; December 29th: Dublin, Kerry. You can get around the ban a bit by having trials for players who didn't feature for the county this year. Not sure how the rule is worded - is it only players who played in the championship, or is it players named on a squad for championship games and whether league and/or McGrath cup is included or excluded. That makes some sense. It will be interesting to see what team is put out for the McGrath cup and how/if the u21s are used.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 15, 2015 17:51:42 GMT
Report: Podge Collins set to play dual role for Clare in 2016 Thursday, 15 Oct 2015
Podge Collins is set to resume his dual career and rejoin the Clare hurling panel after only playing with the Banner's footballers last year, according to reports in the county. Collins was one of the stars of Clare's march to All-Ireland glory in 2013 but was not selected for the hurling panel last year after the management decided that the demands of playing both codes would affect player performance. The Clare Champion reports that the hurling management have changed their mind however and that the Cratloe man, who is recovering from a cruciate ligament injury, will rejoin the panel for 2016. Hurling manager Davy Fitzgerald has refused to comment on the reports. Last season, Collins played with the footballers, managed by his father Colm, who beat Limerick in the Munster SFC before losing to Cork and then Longford in the qualifiers. “I was given an ultimatum,” Collins told RTÉ this time last year. “I suppose they felt it didn’t work out last year - the hurling management. That’s just the way they felt. I just kind of had to pick between the two. “The weeks coming up to making the decision, the way I felt [was]: it was disappointing, no matter what way I was going to go. I just weighed up my options and I just said I’d give the football a go for one year and see how I go.”
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 15, 2015 17:52:43 GMT
You'd think Davy is watering in Last Chance Saloon in 2016.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Oct 15, 2015 22:27:12 GMT
You'd think Davy is watering in Last Chance Saloon in 2016. That boat with a saloon bar has sailed, this can only get worse for Clare. Longest and worst car crash I can recall seeing in sport. If DF had left this year, there might have been something that could be salvaged
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 16, 2015 7:17:46 GMT
Kieran Donaghy considering Kerry future Friday, October 16, 2015 By Eoghan Cormican Sports Reporter Kieran Donaghy revealed he is seriously considering his future as a Kerry footballer.
The 32-year old said injuries are beginning to take their toll after 11-years operating at inter-county level and he is also questioning whether he can still significantly contribute to the Kingdom set-up.
“I do not want to put a timeframe on my decision on whether to give it one more year with Kerry. I want to make the right decision and not to regret it in the future,” he told Kerry’s Eye.
“Right now the major consideration for me is what is best for my family and I. I will be 33 next year, my body has taken a fair old battering, my back in particular has given me constant trouble, but I am starting to pick up other injuries like muscle tears which I never suffered before. advertisement
“Another consideration is whether I can still make a meaningful contribution to the team. “If it was an easy decision to walk away I would have done it by now but it’s not an easy decision. It will hit me one of these days, ‘yes I want to help Kerry to try and win the 2016 All Ireland final or ‘I have a great career and I have been a lucky sod to be a Kerry footballer, it’s time now for the younger players to get their chance.”
Failing to garner a starting berth in the All-Ireland final, the Kerry captain believes the correct team was picked against Dublin.
“I knew personally I was ready to make an impact if played from the start, but on the form shown in training and on the form shown by the likes of Paul Geaney in the semi-final against Tyrone, I could see why management went for the starting 15 that they did. The right full-forward line was picked on form and I had to show leadership qualities off the field and support the lads playing.
“I wanted to lead Kerry and the players I have soldiered with and to be denied that opportunity was and is something I have to deal with.”
He added: “Declan O’Sullivan told me after his experience with Dromid that I should take a break after the club campaign, but I wanted to captain Kerry and make the most of the year. Did I make a mistake back then? Probably. With hindsight, I should have taken a break but we were playing Dublin in the league in Killarney and it was a massive honour to captain Kerry against Dublin.
“I’d be the first to admit I was disappointed with my form in 2015. I am a confidence player and for some reason this year that confidence was not there.”
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Post by ballynamona on Oct 16, 2015 19:10:45 GMT
Very candid from KD there, he is more straight than most.
I think he may well walk from what is he saying above. Will be a pity. Kerry, as numerous posters have stated, are not great at making the best of him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 19:31:44 GMT
I think Kieran may just be feeling a bit sorry for himself at the moment. He has had a tough year with kerry and club. Some reassurance from eamonn/mikey for Kieran that he still has something to offer should bring him back.
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Post by watchdebreakswillye on Oct 16, 2015 20:24:37 GMT
Kieran Donaghy is a great leader. He is to the Kerry team what Paul O' Connell is to the Irish rugby team. The man needs a break, rest up those weary muscles and bones and delay making any decision until the new year. Next year is a historic year in many ways and he still has a lot to offer. I hope he stays put.
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Post by MeathExile on Oct 16, 2015 21:29:23 GMT
Hope KD stays- he gives us something different, especially when the going gets tough. Not too long ago he rescued us in Croker vs Mayo and played a huge part in Limerick. Felt he should have started vs Dublin this year and put Dublin on the back foot in terms of numbers needed in defence.
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Post by brucewayne on Oct 16, 2015 21:37:20 GMT
An excellent article was posted on this forum last year that gave an insight into Castleisland in the 1970s and its most famous son Con Houlihan. www.patrickcarroll.co.uk/200-feet-of-posterity/It was a wonderful read and a rare event rolled into one given that a forum devoted to football could throw up such a gem. Con's writing career is familiar to all who post here but here is an excellent link where his writing was recorded by the Irish Folklore Commission in 1935/35 and he in primary school! www.duchas.ie/en/ppl/con-houlihanWere the writings of any other notable Kerrymen captured during this endeavour?
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 17, 2015 12:52:05 GMT
Matt Williams
Sat, Oct 17, 2015, 04:00
After the 2011 World Cup, the leading strategists in Argentina decided the Pumas had to change the way they were playing. They always played with passion, aggression and an accurate kicking game. However, against the best teams this philosophy had not succeeded and the Pumas strategists concluded it was not sustainable.
Without changing to a running game, any hope of defeating the top nations was a folly. With the Pumas entering the Rugby Championship in 2012, it was the time for decisive leadership and action.
The idea was simple. Keep all the great qualities from the past and introduce the skills required for a 15-man, ball-in-hand running game.
A skills programme including footwork, support play, offloading and passing out of contact was coached. These skills were coached to all representative age teams, the teams that competed in the Vodacom Cup in South Africa and the national team itself. The planned timeline for success was long. These things take time.
The Pumas inclusion in the Rugby Championship accelerated things. Not only were they playing the ‘Big Three’ from the southern hemisphere, but instead of assembling as a team for a few weeks a year, they came together for three months every season.
In the past two seasons their offloading game has shattered the well-organised defences of both the Springboks and the Wallabies. The Pumas also pushed New Zealand to the limit, in both the Championship and in this World Cup. A Puma victory against New Zealand some time in the immediate future is inevitable.
All of these recent performances had the usual Pumas trademarks of flint-hard defence, skilful forwards and awesome kicking. The joy of their play was the birth of a running game. It is exciting, entertaining and successful.
It must also be a hoot to play. The Pumas are playing rugby with smiles on their faces. What is more, they look like they were born to the freedom that running with the ball in hand produces.
I deeply believe that a national rugby team is at the zenith of its potency when the philosophy of their play represents the character of their nation.
Australian teams play at their best when they carry the ‘larrikin, devil-may-care’ attitude into their attack. The current New Zealand team are exceptionally potent because they are playing a no-nonsense, hard-nosed, accurate, attacking game that combines the honest, hard-working, Scottish-Kiwi heritage, with the aggression and creativity of the Maori culture.
Exuberance The Pumas have tapped into the joyous exuberance of their Latin nature, mixed with the exotic adventurous spirit of South America. They are a team truly born to run the ball.
At the end of the pool stages, the Pumas had scored 179 points, the most of any team at this World Cup.
Several years ago, when Argentina were in Dublin to play Ireland, I had cup of coffee with Felipe Contepomi. He asked to meet the night before the game. When I pointed out that meeting him the night before a match may be too much of an imposition, he laughingly dismissed my concern. “Get here at 8pm,” he said.
To meet a player at the team hotel the night before a big game is a taboo with most teams. Many feel it is disturbs the players’ mental preparation. But when I arrived, every Puma player was sitting at tables in the crowded foyer, chatting with their family and friends. Parents, brothers sisters and cousins were in abundance. It was like a local community club, everyone enjoying the occasion and happy in each other’s company.
Relaxed laughter and a tangible feeling of joy created an atmosphere unique to international teams the night before a match.
It was a sight to behold. Felipe, being the great gentlemen and wonderful rugby man he is, could see my surprise. He reminded me that the Pumas gathered for only a few days each year and in that time, the great joy and pride in wearing the famous blue and white jersey had to be passed onto the next generation. Just as it had been passed on to him by the earlier greats. The players were revelling in being a “Puma”.
It is obvious that this current group of Argentina players still hold high the values and culture handed to them by the past greats like Agustín Pichot, Mario Ledesma and Felipe himself.
Reversal
The tactics the Pumas will use against Ireland tomorrow are a complete reversal of the "kick-a-thon" of the World Cup in 2007. The will run the ball.
Many in the Southern Hemisphere have the Pumas as favourites. No matter the result, Argentinian rugby is marching forward. With a team in next year’s Super Rugby competition and growing professionalism in their domestic competitions, the Pumas are a rugby power on the rise.
It may not be enough to overcome a spirited Irish team in the quarter-final, but Los Pumas have got a lot things right in recent years. It is impossible not to admire their intellect and courage in changing their attacking mindset.
Irish rugby should study the Pumas attacking plan intently. We could learn a great deal from an old enemy.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 17, 2015 12:55:31 GMT
I think there is a lot in what Matt Williams in the bit I highlighted that pertains to different GAA counties too.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 17, 2015 13:15:49 GMT
An excellent article was posted on this forum last year that gave an insight into Castleisland in the 1970s and its most famous son Con Houlihan. www.patrickcarroll.co.uk/200-feet-of-posterity/It was a wonderful read and a rare event rolled into one given that a forum devoted to football could throw up such a gem. Con's writing career is familiar to all who post here but here is an excellent link where his writing was recorded by the Irish Folklore Commission in 1935/35 and he in primary school! www.duchas.ie/en/ppl/con-houlihanWere the writings of any other notable Kerrymen captured during this endeavour? thanks for posting this. I was the one that posted up the Tom Munnelly article last year. I thought twice about it but seeing as it made reference to Con Houlihan I thought it would be alright to do so. I note that "logainm" appears on the webpage on the duchas website. TG4 have a show running at the moment called "logainm" which explains the meaning of the Irish names for various townlands and towns and villages around Ireland. Brendan Begley is mainly involved in it. A great concept and there was a thread on here on the same topic a few years ago.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 17, 2015 13:53:56 GMT
...I hope this doesn't set a precedent for talking about soccer on this forum!!
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 18, 2015 8:50:16 GMT
Peader Healy appointed Cork football manager
Saturday, 17 Oct 2015
Cork have appointed former selector Peader Healy as manager of the county's senior football team on a two-year term. Healy succeeds Brian Cuthbert, who departed in July after Cork's round-4 qualifier exit to Kildare. Healy was previously a selector under Conor Counihan from 2008 to 2013, reaching All-Ireland finals in 2009 and in 2010 when the Rebels beat Down . A former All-Ireland winning Cork minor (1981) and experienced coach, the Naomh Abán man was more recently involved with O’Donovan Rossa and Dr Crokes. Healy will name his backroom team in due course. Cork county chairman Gerard Lane said: "On behalf of the county board, I would like to wish Peader all the best in his new position. "I would also like to thank all the candidates who expressed an interest in the position, and also the members of the appointments committee for their endeavours.”
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 18, 2015 8:51:16 GMT
Looks like another high powered appointment by the Lee!
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 18, 2015 15:30:59 GMT
There were farcical scenes in Cusack Park, Mullingar today as Clonkill and Raharney boycotted the Westmeath MHC final.
The clubs had requested a postponement of the U-18 final in the interest of player welfare as a number of minor players from both sides are also involved with their respective senior teams which are due out in action in the senior decider at 3.30pm.
Officials from Raharney and Clonkill met on Thursday night and a joint letter requesting a postponement – signed by both club secretaries – was lodged with the county board but their request fell on deaf ears.
"As a club we are very proud of our minor and senior players having reached their respective finals and our only wish is that every player achieve their maximum potential in both finals," a statement from Raharney read.
"In our efforts to promote the game of hurling to the highest standard, we believe that it is totally unfair to ask minor hurlers to play 120 minutes, across two matches in succession on the one day."
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 18, 2015 15:31:45 GMT
I see player welfare and burnout aren't on the agenda in Westmeath
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Post by fitz on Oct 18, 2015 15:38:33 GMT
It's simply not an attractive job for many reasons. Daft County Board, entrenched crazy Chairman, conflict with hurling, lack of real quality players despite having a reasonable squad. Players going drinking during Championship. No leaders.
It's difficult to be successful when everyone is rowing together. They can't even get the boat in the water without a row.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 18, 2015 16:21:52 GMT
A strong Cork is better for us.
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Post by Dermot on Oct 19, 2015 10:55:50 GMT
So Sean O'Brien gets 1 week ... it seems pretty lenient but he would have got off scot free had he taken the Dubs legal team with him As Im sure most people are, Im completely devastated for POC & POM ...... especially POC as its his last hurrah ... its just not bloody fair The dream endings are few - Henry Shefflin and Darragh didn't do badly, nor wee Peter for that matter. O'Driscoll taken off injured in his last match after 15 mins. At least McMahon will serve the 1 match ban although the Chairman had a final jab... www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/1014/734691-philly-mcmahon-dublin-kerry/Dublin chairman Sean Shanley told the Irish Examiner: "He had a hearing and that’s where we will be leaving it. "We felt it was harsh, he was challenging for the ball with the player who was on the ground but we won’t be going any further with it.” Ah well, after that weekend we can always thank feck that nobody else plays Gaeilc lol
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Post by onlykerry on Oct 19, 2015 15:37:50 GMT
When the All Star scheme began and for a good number of years thereafter a player became ineligible for an All Star award if red carded during the season. The thinking was that an All Star was a model player who excelled in both sportsmanship and playing ability. With all the Sh1te of fellas getting off on technicalities is it time to re-establish the principle that the Player of the Year and All Star awards should only go to those players who have performed well and are examples to all of the sporting standards we should aspire to. A straight red making a player ineligible for accolades in that year.
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Post by southward on Oct 19, 2015 16:59:59 GMT
When the All Star scheme began and for a good number of years thereafter a player became ineligible for an All Star award if red carded during the season. The thinking was that an All Star was a model player who excelled in both sportsmanship and playing ability. With all the Sh1te of fellas getting off on technicalities is it time to re-establish the principle that the Player of the Year and All Star awards should only go to those players who have performed well and are examples to all of the sporting standards we should aspire to. A straight red making a player ineligible for accolades in that year. While I'd agree with the sentiment, it's too easy to pick up a red these days. And often as not, it's lads who are targeted for needling, sledging etc who end up with them while the real cynical players just shnake off. Put it this way, Philly McMahon got no red card this year, as far as I know. And Ricey always seemed to lead a charmed life in that regard.
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 19, 2015 17:50:14 GMT
When the All Star scheme began and for a good number of years thereafter a player became ineligible for an All Star award if red carded during the season. The thinking was that an All Star was a model player who excelled in both sportsmanship and playing ability. With all the Sh1te of fellas getting off on technicalities is it time to re-establish the principle that the Player of the Year and All Star awards should only go to those players who have performed well and are examples to all of the sporting standards we should aspire to. A straight red making a player ineligible for accolades in that year. John O'Keeffe missed out on a home and hosed All-Star in the early '80s after picking up two bookable offences leading to a sending off while playing for Munster in the Railway cup at the back end of the year. If I can remember correctly the ref was Seamus Aldridge. It seemed brutally harsh and flawed at the time as the double bookable resulting in the sending off was not long introduced at the time. The Prince of fullbacks was a footballing fullback in the truest art form.
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 22, 2015 13:18:52 GMT
The "in camera and only open to fully accredited members of the county board" meeting that was supposed to be on in Cork where the situation relating to the finances of Pairc Ui Chaoimh were going to be "discussed" was cancelled at the last minute.....Also been told that there's a lot of talk that the Cork county board draw is getting a very very poor response..... Just heard this finance meeting has been cancelled again....once again at fairly short notice.....
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 22, 2015 13:45:11 GMT
Beginning to sound like a theme script from Only Fools and Horses!
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