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Post by tommybigboots on Oct 24, 2015 17:06:40 GMT
I also heard about the illegal videoing going in the Rochestown CBS game, a close friend if mine was there and he thought the students videoing were from a school in Clare ...as if the Clare lads care enough to attend - nevermind video-tape - a football match. They were from Brendans. might be true only saying what I heard
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Post by pluto on Oct 27, 2015 18:57:03 GMT
Pcd were last beaten by the green in a round robin game the first year they won it. It meant nothing they had already topped the group.
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 10, 2015 9:10:13 GMT
Fixtures for this week - round 2 of the Corn Ui Mhuiri should really start to put shape on the various groups.
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Post by shannonsider on Nov 10, 2015 18:26:14 GMT
Fixtures for this week - round 2 of the Corn Ui Mhuiri should really start to put shape on the various groups. Brendans should beat Flannans, but wouldn't want to take it lightly as Flannans drew with Cahirciveen. Dingle need a win over Macroom and should get it. Macroom have a couple of good inside forwards but wouldn't be great overall and were hammered by Chriost Ri in round 1. Mercy Mounthawk had a good win in round 1, but will need to really be on their toes to beat Clonakilty who have several of last years Cork minor panel available. They are well drilled and played fairly defensively but with a few very good forwards. Green v Killorglin, neither school will be in contention this year you'd think. Green were woeful in round 1. Killorglin might just edge this with the likes of Mike Breen operating around the middle here. Colaiste Na Scelige face Abbey cbs from Tipp town. Abbey were well beaten in round 1 by the Sem, but are not that bad so won't be easy for Sceilige. PS SL Rathmore V Col Chriost Ri is a very interesting clash. Rathmore are on the rise, winning the u16 1/2 B last year and had a great win over Dingle in round 1. Chriost Ri are probably stronger than Dingle though so this will be a tough one. Chriost Ri have a lethal inside forward line so this is a big test for Rathmore. Expect Castleisland and St Michaels to advance in the B competition also and indeed both have a god shot at winning it out.
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 11, 2015 15:25:17 GMT
Corn Uí Mhuirí Round 2 Rochestown 1-11 Clonmel 2-12 St Brendans 0-14 St Flannans 0-4 Pobailscoil Chorca Dhuibhne 1-11 DLS Macroom 1-3 Abbey CBS 4-9 Col Na Scelige 3-16 PS SL Rathmore 2-12 Col Chriost Ri 0-8 St Fachtna Skib 1-9 Col Cholim Ballincollig 1-14
Some results so far - things looking decent from a Kerry point of view - big result is obviously Rathmore beating Chriost Ri by 10 points
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 11, 2015 15:52:58 GMT
Tralee CBS 4-16 IS Killorglin 0-12 Clonakilty CC 2-13 Mercy Mounthawk 1-8
State of the groups after today's games
Group A High School Clonmel 4 Rochestown 2 Tralee CBS 2 Killorglin 0
Group B St Brendans 4 Col na Scelige 3 Flannans 1 Abbey CBS, Tipp 0
Group C Rathmore 4 Dingle 2 Chríost Rí 2 Macroom 0
Group D Clonakilty 4 Mounthawk Tralee2 Ballincollig 2 Skibereen 0
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 18:08:50 GMT
Rathmore are flyind ane I'm not surprised. Made up of players from Rathmore Gneeveguilla and Glenflesk. Only three clubs but some good players. Jerry Cronin Gneeveguilla is a solid keeper. DJ Murphy(Gneeveguilla) is the full back unlucky not to make this years minor panel. Connie O'Connor(Gneeveguilla) is no.6 and I think he could definitely make the Kerry minor panel next year. Mark Ryan(Rathmore) and JJ Herlihy(Gneeveguilla) are the Midfielders and both could make it next year. Jamie Brosnan(Gneeveguilla) Brian Friel(Rathmore) Shane O'Sullivan(Gneeveguilla) Dean Fitzgerald(Rathmore) and Ian Roche(Glenflesk) are serious forwards. They will all get a look at the minor panel too. I wouldn't fancy playing them in this competition.
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Post by westarebest on Nov 12, 2015 18:29:18 GMT
Rathmore are flyind ane I'm not surprised. Made up of players from Rathmore Gneeveguilla and Glenflesk. Only three clubs but some good players. Jerry Cronin Gneeveguilla is a solid keeper. DJ Murphy(Gneeveguilla) is the full back unlucky not to make this years minor panel. Connie O'Connor(Gneeveguilla) is no.6 and I think he could definitely make the Kerry minor panel next year. Mark Ryan(Rathmore) and JJ Herlihy(Gneeveguilla) are the Midfielders and both could make it next year. Jamie Brosnan(Gneeveguilla) Brian Friel(Rathmore) Shane O'Sullivan(Gneeveguilla) Dean Fitzgerald(Rathmore) and Ian Roche(Glenflesk) are serious forwards. They will all get a look at the minor panel too. I wouldn't fancy playing them in this competition. [br Still can't see past the Sem. A really stong outfit again this year aswell as Rochestown and Clonmel and I wouldn't write off Clonakilty.
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Post by fantasy15 on Nov 12, 2015 18:48:53 GMT
Rathmore are flyind ane I'm not surprised. Made up of players from Rathmore Gneeveguilla and Glenflesk. Only three clubs but some good players. Jerry Cronin Gneeveguilla is a solid keeper. DJ Murphy(Gneeveguilla) is the full back unlucky not to make this years minor panel. Connie O'Connor(Gneeveguilla) is no.6 and I think he could definitely make the Kerry minor panel next year. Mark Ryan(Rathmore) and JJ Herlihy(Gneeveguilla) are the Midfielders and both could make it next year. Jamie Brosnan(Gneeveguilla) Brian Friel(Rathmore) Shane O'Sullivan(Gneeveguilla) Dean Fitzgerald(Rathmore) and Ian Roche(Glenflesk) are serious forwards. They will all get a look at the minor panel too. I wouldn't fancy playing them in this competition. [br Still can't see past the Sem. A really stong outfit again this year aswell as Rochestown and Clonmel and I wouldn't write off Clonakilty.
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Post by fantasy15 on Nov 12, 2015 18:51:46 GMT
[br Still can't see past the Sem. A really stong outfit again this year aswell as Rochestown and Clonmel and I wouldn't write off Clonakilty. I would have colaiste Na sceilge as dark horses for this competition. They are unbeaten in their group and are also in a o sullivan cup final against the Sem' where they beat mercy mounthawk comfortable enough in semi final..
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Post by westarebest on Nov 12, 2015 20:33:00 GMT
I would have colaiste Na sceilge as dark horses for this competition. They are unbeaten in their group and are also in a o sullivan cup final against the Sem' where they beat mercy mounthawk comfortable enough in semi final.. Ya I'd agree with you, with the likes of Mark Suqrue Darren Casey Graham Sullivan. Some big players wouldn't be too familiar of the rest of their team.
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Post by millbank on Nov 12, 2015 21:09:29 GMT
Sem on paper strongest .Was at Rathmore school game.Col Chriost Ri disappointing with strong wind at their back never fired a shot.Rathmore best performers DJ Murphy Kieran O Connor and Connie O Connor in defence, Mark Ryan strong 2nd half midfield, Dean Fitzgerald and Shane O Sullivan impressive inside forwards but Brian Friel at 12 was sensational. Will be amazed if Brian Friel is not on Kerry minor championship panel next year.
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Post by lad on Nov 24, 2015 9:06:53 GMT
Corn Uí Mhuirí Group standings after round 2
Corn Uí Mhuirí Table Group A Team Played Wins Lost Draw Points HS Clonmel 2 2 0 0 4 Rochestown 2 1 1 0 2 Tralee CBS 2 1 1 0 2 I S Kilorglin 2 0 2 0 0 Group B Team Played Wins Lost Draw Points St Brendans 2 2 0 0 4 Col Na Sceilge 2 1 0 1 3 St Flannans 2 0 1 1 1 Abbey CBS 2 0 2 0 0 Group C Team Played Wins Lost Draw Points PS SL Rathmore 2 2 0 0 4 P.C.D. 2 1 1 0 2 Col Chríost Rí 2 1 1 0 2 DLS Macroom 2 0 2 0 0 Group D Team Played Wins Lost Draw Points Clonakilty 2 2 0 0 4 Mercy Mounthawk Tralee 2 1 1 0 2 Col Cholim Ballincollig 2 1 1 0 2 St Fachtnas Skibbereen 2 0 2 0 0
Corn Uí Mhuirí Round 3 St Francis College Rochestown V IS Killorglin at 1:30pm in Millstreet St Brendans V Col Na Scelige at 1:30pm in Cromane PS Chorca Dhuibhne V Col Chriost Rí at 1:30pm in Fitzgerald Stadium Clonakilty CC V Col Cholim Ballincollig at 1:30pm in Brinny Tralee CBS V HS Clonmel at 1pm in Glanworth Abbey CBS V St Flannans at 1:30pm in Claughaun PS SL Rathmore V DLS Macroom at 1:30pm in Mallow St Fachtnas Skib V Mercy Mounthawk at 1:30pm in Carrigadroichid
It is looking like Kerry will have at least 5 representatives in the 1/4 finals with the Sem, PCD, Sceilge, Rathmore and Mercy Mounthawk looking like they should progress. I also wouldn't rule out the Green! They will not fear Clonmel and a big result there could get them through, think Rochestown were missing quite a few against Clonmel and Killorglin put it up to Clonmel with Tralee comfortably beating Killorglin.
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 25, 2015 15:57:19 GMT
St Francis College Rochestown 3-10 IS Killorglin 3-07 St Brendans 4-15 Col Na Scelige 1-4 PS Chorca Dhuibhne 2-10 Col Chriost Rí 1-08 Col Cholim Ballincollig 2-11 Clonakilty CC 2-10 Tralee CBS 0-16 HS Clonmel 2-08 St Flannans 6-08 Abbey CBS 3-09 PS SL Rathmore 3-19 DLS Macroom 3-05 St Fachtnas Skib 3-06 Mercy Mounthawk 2-09
Sem, Dingle and Rathmore into the quarter-finals, Sem and Rathmore as group winners.
Other teams through are Clonmel, Rochestown, Flannans, Clonakilty and Ballincollig Tralee CBS and Col na Sceilge finished level on points with the 2nd placed teams in their group but lost out on score difference.
Group Winners : Sem, Rathmore, Ballincollig, Rochestown Runners-Up : Dingle, Clonakilty, Flannans , Clonmel
Quarter-finals will be group winners versus runners-up.
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Post by onlykerry on Nov 25, 2015 15:58:05 GMT
St Brendans, Rathmore and Dingle make it to the QF's - Tralee CBS and Col Na Sceilige lose out narrowly (scoring difference) with Mounthawk (plagued by injuries this year) and Killorglin all fail to make it through the group stages.
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Post by frankgalvintralee on Nov 25, 2015 22:56:47 GMT
Rathmore are the team my prediction for Corn Ui Mhuiri winners u heard it here
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Post by westarebest on Nov 25, 2015 23:43:57 GMT
Rathmore are the team my prediction for Corn Ui Mhuiri winners u heard it here You think they have what it takes to beat the Sem? I'm not so sure.. I think people shouldn't start writing off PSCD just yet there not a bad team. But my god look at the Sem and the pick they have again this year.
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Post by himself on Nov 26, 2015 10:32:55 GMT
My favourites for the Corn Ui Mhuiri would definitely be Rochestown, and I can easily see them going on to win a Hogan as well. If they lose in the Harty Cup next Wednesday, they are out of the hurling, and at that stage I'll happily put my money down on them - I honestly believe that you can't compete at the very top level at both codes and, like too many talented young players, these guys are at prime risk of burnout, they are all senior dual players as well. I know they lost a game in the group stage, but I wouldn't read a lot into it - my commiserations to Tralee CBS and Colaiste na Sceilge, desperately unlucky not to qualify, while Mounthawk lost out to injuries as much as anything else. Sliabh Luachra have phenomenal talent but I think 13 of them are U16s, remember that the likes of Rochestown have talented U19s like Powter and Kingston. The age gap does make a huge difference. Chorca Dhuibhne showed incredible character to come back at Criost Ri and were superb in the second half, but still had to rely a lot on the brilliance of Conchuir o Geibheannaigh - all of their substitutions came very strongly into the game as well. The Sem have a very strong panel to pick from - actually too strong. Pick six forwards from Dara Moynihan, David Clifford, William Courtney, David Shaw, Mikey Casey, Adam O'Shea, Evan Cronin, Mark O'Shea, Lee O'Donoghue, Donnacha O'Sullivan, Cathal O'Shea, Peter McCarthy, Mark Harnett, Ciaran Flynn? You have players like Finbarr Murphy, Cian O'Callaghan, and Niall O'Donoghue on the bench. That's far too big a panel to keep happy; I'd actually consider it a problem. Any time a player makes the slightest mistake, there will be people thinking that some-one on the bench could have done better - it ratchets the pressure up way too high and is actually very detrimental. And while the Sem do have big players like Courtney, Clifford, and O'Brien, you don't have the physicality of the likes of Liam Kearney, Matt Rennie, Micheal Burns (Burns isn't tall, but he was as strong a college player as I ever saw). Rochestown are a huge team of proven talents, and are still my favourites. But, hey, loving the rollercoaster ride!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 14:59:08 GMT
It's going to be between those 3 teams i think also. That is a serious forward line the Sem have. I think David Clifford Donnacha O'Sullivan and possibly David Shaw will be in the Kerry minor forward line next year with Dara Moynihan possibly on the bench. They have a lot of talent. Rochestown are definitely a bigger more physical team. If they meet on a wet day Rochestown might have the edge. Rathmore have a very good forward line too with Dean Fitzgerald and Brian Friel certs for the Kerry minor panel and Mark Ryan also.
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Post by westarebest on Nov 26, 2015 19:04:59 GMT
It's going to be between those 3 teams i think also. That is a serious forward line the Sem have. I think David Clifford Donnacha O'Sullivan and possibly David Shaw will be in the Kerry minor forward line next year with Dara Moynihan possibly on the bench. They have a lot of talent. Rochestown are definitely a bigger more physical team. If they meet on a wet day Rochestown might have the edge. Rathmore have a very good forward line too with Dean Fitzgerald and Brian Friel certs for the Kerry minor panel and Mark Ryan also. No point having all that fire power if u can't get the ball into them or keep out the opposition. How do the 3 teams look defensively and in midfield? I don't know why but I can see Chorca Dhuibhne coming out of nowhere again this year.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 20:32:05 GMT
The Sem have plenty talent in the Backs. Mike Potts Cian O'Callaghan Cian Gammell David Naughton Dan O'Brien Craig Courtney David Spillane Niall O'Mahony Mark O'Shea. Midfield Billy Courtney and Finbarr Murphy.
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 27, 2015 0:06:59 GMT
No point having all that fire power if u can't get the ball into them or keep out the opposition. How do the 3 teams look defensively and in midfield? I don't know why but I can see Chorca Dhuibhne coming out of nowhere again this year. The Sem conceded a total of 2-14 in the 3 games (an average of 6.667 points conceded per game) so I don't think they will be all that concerned on the defensive side of things. The scorelines from the games the Sem weren't involved in were as follows St Flannans 6-08 Abbey CBS 3-09 Abbey CBS 4-9 Col Na Scelige 3-16 St Flannans 0-8 Col Na Scelige 0-8 That's a total of 16-58 conceded in the other 3 games in that group or an average of 17.67 (106/6) conceded per side per game which would suggest to me that even though there were 3 "weaker" teams in the group, the Sem defence was an decent one and should be capable enough once they hit sterner tests. The Sem scored a total of 5-47 (62 points or 20.667 points ppg) in their 3 games so that would seem to indicate that both the Sem's attack and defence was better than any of the other 3 teams (no surprise really but would bode well for the future and would seem to scotch the notion that it was only a case of their forwards winning the games - looking at the different scoring averages it would seem to suggest that the Sem's defence was responsible for more of their winning margins that their forwards. There's a saying in the US that defences win championships, offences determine by how much. Rochestown qualifying as group winners is a big plus for the Sem as that means they will avoid them at the quarter-final stage - with the long break between the group stages and the quarter finals, it's perfectly set up for a team that has motored through the group stages to be caught a bit cold in the quarters. Not saying the teams who qualified 2nd will be walk-overs by any means for any of the group winners but Rochestown could easily have qualified in 2nd place and they would have made for ferociously tough opposition for whoever drew them in the quarters especially as a group winner. Rochestown's results were St Francis Col Rochestown 5-12 Tralee CBS 1-4 Rochestown 1-11 Clonmel 2-12 St Francis College Rochestown 3-10 IS Killorglin 3-07 The fact that Rochestown lost to Clonmel and "only" beat Killorglin by 3 points is hardly that impressive, especially in light of Killorglin's other results in the group - losing to Clonmel by 9 points and the Green by 16. As against that I have heard Rochestown were resting players/had some big names injured and had the issue of balancing Harty Cup commitments so it's tough to guage accurately where exactly they are. However even in a very small sample of 3 games, I'd be favouring the side who have conceded 6.667 ppg versus the side who have conceded 13.667 ppg. However in a cup competition nothing is quaranteed and if you have one off day and you can by out on your ear. If Rochestown go out of the hurling and are 100% focused on the football from here on they will be a far stronger contender than if they are trying to balance the two and ride two horses. Very hard to see Rathmore coming out of nowhere to win it but they've made a hell of an impression in their first year and momentum can count for a lot with young lads and it would be a hell of a fairytale and I'd say there would be no-one who would begrudge them the title. Draw is on December 18th
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 27, 2015 0:33:49 GMT
I don't know why but I can see Chorca Dhuibhne coming out of nowhere again this year. Very hard to see - they beat Criost Ri and Macroom to qualify for the knockouts - two schools who look like they were only making up the numbers this year and were fairly handily beaten by Rathmore - everyone back west I've talked to has said this year's crop were a distance of the last few years (who to be fair were a phenomenally talented bunch) so it would be a major achievement to come back into the reckoning - as groups runners up they are already up against it in that they will be facing the tougher opposition in the quarters but against that if they do win their quarter it would give them a big boost heading into the semi. Were they missing anyone with injuries in the group stages?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 13:36:05 GMT
Dingle rely too much on Conor Geaney so I cant see them going far. You need more than that especially against teams like the Sem or Rathmore. Rathmore have Dean Fitzgerald Brian Friel Shane O'Sullivan Ian Roche and John O'Leary to get the scores. The Sem are the same. Tomás Mac an tSithigh can score and Sean Ó Bambaire but I think they don't have enough to go all the way.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 28, 2015 17:05:59 GMT
Dingle rely too much on Conor Geaney so I cant see them going far. You need more than that especially against teams like the Sem or Rathmore. Rathmore have Dean Fitzgerald Brian Friel Shane O'Sullivan Ian Roche and John O'Leary to get the scores. The Sem are the same. Tomás Mac an tSithigh can score and Sean Ó Bambaire but I think they don't have enough to go all the way. Call it nacrocaigh?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 1:00:15 GMT
The Sem
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Post by westarebest on Nov 29, 2015 13:20:54 GMT
Rathmore are the team my prediction for Corn Ui Mhuiri winners u heard it here It's actually quite an achievement also for Rathmore to be doing so well considering they are about nearly the only team without a county minor from the year gone by. Nearly every team has a a few that have either been on the team or subs or extended panel which is always a great benefit having played at a high level. So fair play to them
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Post by pluto on Dec 3, 2015 18:01:53 GMT
When it gets down to knockout in January and the pitches are softer and the weather horrible, talent counts for nothing unless it is backed up with character and a will to win at all cost. PCD had bucket loads of it down the years. They won games they should not have. A good sideline helps too. This years corn ui mhuiri is wide open. I look forward to end of jan
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Post by givehimaball on Dec 17, 2015 21:32:22 GMT
Draw made tonight
Fixture D Col Cholim Ballincollig V HS Clonmel Fixture C St Francis College Rochestown V Clonakilty CC Fixture B St Brendans V PS Chorca Dhuibhne Fixture A PS SL Rathmore V St Flannans College
Semis are winner of A verus winner of B and winner of C v winner of D
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Post by lad on Dec 18, 2015 9:11:39 GMT
Draw made tonight Fixture D Col Cholim Ballincollig V HS Clonmel Fixture C St Francis College Rochestown V Clonakilty CC Fixture B St Brendans V PS Chorca Dhuibhne Fixture A PS SL Rathmore V St Flannans College Semis are winner of A verus winner of B and winner of C v winner of D Tough draw for the Kerry schools and an awful pity they are all on the one side of the draw as I feel 3 of the top 4 sides will face be eliminated before the final. Fancy the Sem to beat PDC but wouldn't be putting my house on it! Rathmore should overcome Flannans and set up a fantastic semi-final! Rochestown got the easiest of the draws in my opinion in terms of their path to the final, looks certain to be a Kerry-Cork Munster Final!
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