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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 10, 2014 21:52:17 GMT
That was a class goal by Paul Geaney.
It is great to see him in there.
The joke is of course is that he is even better than he showed this year. He got nominated for an All-Star this year: he is the type of guy who can score five goals in a Championship and pick one up.
Delighted for him to be winning a medal. Well earned.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 11, 2014 18:22:49 GMT
Being able to field a ball over your head and over yours opponents head sets a forward apart in the modern game where packed defences are key. It doesn't look to me like OBrien was shooting for a point. Donaghy ran out leaving a one on one between Geaney and his marker. OBrien put his hand in the air after kicking it which seems to be a signal to Geaney. Geaneys finish reminded me of a similar finish by Tommy Walsh in Tullamore v Antrim in 2009. A forwards finish.
Fitzmarice v McGuinness reminded me of Kasparov v Karpov in that famous chess game in the 70s. Little between the teams although more Kerry players played well that Donegal players. Donegal had to "come out to play ball" after each goal and that used up energy and effort which they were planning to conserve for the final 15 mins and the sounding of the bell of the last lap. Like a driver running low on petrol taking two wrong turns and using up too much juice.
EF presided over a fabulous management success. He got everyone pulling together and egos were left outside the door it seems. I take my hat off to the older lads like Declan, Marc and Aiden and KD who were willing to play bit parts on occasion.... that to me sets veteran players apart.
It was great to see Johnny Buckley blossom at this level. His massive physical presence was vital and his keen football brain can be seen as he waited and got into position to kick scores from the 40 during those "keep ball" phases.
It shows also just how cruel to Kerry the loss of David Moran was in 2011 2012 and 2013. We always knew he had it.
The intelligence of moving JOD out the field was key too. He was never going to outfield his marker but his sublime footpassing skills enabled him to pull the strings and his pass for Geaneys first half point was instinctive and a thing of beauty. He did something similar v Kildare in the league in Newbridge.
What do Kerry need to do better........ well ...kick points from 40 yards is the main one. A lot of the failed attempts after half time were due to being under pressure but getting the equivalent of the number 10 in rugby into place (JOD, Colm, Tommy Walsh,) would solve that I think.
Anyways, thanks to all and sundry for giving us a great oul summer. And the winter will be shorter too.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 11, 2014 22:45:29 GMT
The winner takes it all. Very poignant. I don't know where I saw this one but its pretty powerful I think.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Oct 12, 2014 12:40:24 GMT
A few 'delayed' observations here:
Fitzy substituted Tomás while McGuinness left McFadden on. Ironic that McFadden nearly pulled it all out of the fire at the death, but still dropping the chin when the chips are down shows lack of spirit and which is bad for their conveyor belt.
Long range points is now a big opportunity for us and those who master it will be the apple of Fitzy's eye. With respect a few wides weren't due to pressure.
Donegal are being underestimated for '15 and they will still have a lot of McGuinness steam; Rory Gallagher is a serious manager who was already there in '12?
The true JO'D shone true yet again in an interview lately when he said he goes training on his own and does things that probably look crazy, E.g. Kick the ball in the air and then try to field it, but with your eyes closed! Ah sure he is only promoting tourism, I'd say there will be more tree climbers and hopefully The Special Branch will let 'em down, again! Emergency Services will be kept busy between rescuing from Carrantuohill and Palm trees.
Finally I wonder if we need to introduce Fitzy's strategy at minor level; I think we were much better than Donegal than the scoreline suggested and we were lucky they didn't get closer. JO'C will not entertain this new style but it works and our seniors proved we can beat anyone at it; how many more Sams would we have if we adopted it sooner?
I can't wait to see how Fitzy will set up Tommy Walsh, Gooch and JO'D, and probably Donaghy the way he is talking, and Darren, and Donnacha, and .. ah sure yew know yerselves; exciting times. Is Declan retiring I wonder; apparently the cartilage is non existent and you wouldn't want to see a fell doing himself damage, what a warrior!
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Post by seamo on Oct 12, 2014 19:25:55 GMT
A few 'delayed' observations here: Fitzy substituted Tomás while McGuinness left McFadden on. Ironic that McFadden nearly pulled it all out of the fire at the death, but still dropping the chin when the chips are down shows lack of spirit and which is bad for their conveyor belt. Long range points is now a big opportunity for us and those who master it will be the apple of Fitzy's eye. With respect a few wides weren't due to pressure. Donegal are being underestimated for '15 and they will still have a lot of McGuinness steam; Rory Gallagher is a serious manager who was already there in '12? The true JO'D shone true yet again in an interview lately when he said he goes training on his own and does things that probably look crazy, E.g. Kick the ball in the air and then try to field it, but with your eyes closed! Ah sure he is only promoting tourism, I'd say there will be more tree climbers and hopefully The Special Branch will let 'em down, again! Emergency Services will be kept busy between rescuing from Carrantuohill and Palm trees. Finally I wonder if we need to introduce Fitzy's strategy at minor level; I think we were much better than Donegal than the scoreline suggested and we were lucky they didn't get closer. JO'C will not entertain this new style but it works and our seniors proved we can beat anyone at it; how many more Sams would we have if we adopted it sooner? I can't wait to see how Fitzy will set up Tommy Walsh, Gooch and JO'D, and probably Donaghy the way he is talking, and Darren, and Donnacha, and .. ah sure yew know yerselves; exciting times. Is Declan retiring I wonder; apparently the cartilage is non existent and you wouldn't want to see a fell doing himself damage, what a warrior! Your over analysing it now. JOC knows what he is doing, he has more AI senior titles than Eamon, and it shouldn't be forgotten that he was the manager of this years AI minor winners. JOC has the track record to do as he wish's, he doesn't need someone else's methods.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 13, 2014 7:46:02 GMT
EUGENE MCGEE
The recent All-Ireland football final is being regarded as one of the poorest for many years, which is somewhat of an overstatement, but the contest may well represent a landmark in the short-term development of the game at inter-county level at least.
We witnessed for the first time the extensive criticism of Kerry as 'exponents' of negative tactics by their decision to give Donegal a taste of their own medicine - relying on over-defensive play to control the game.
This could yet be a landmark in GAA history if Kerry now include massed defence as one of their primary ways of playing the game. Repeating that performance on a permanent basis will give other counties the incentive to imitate, with club teams following suit.
We have already seen proof of that with sides copying Armagh, Tyrone and Donegal in the last few years, but if Kerry go down the same road in preference to their traditional style, then football will really be in trouble.
Numerous teams immediately began to copy that negative play when Donegal arrived on the scene under Jim McGuinness in 2011 and we started to get county finals with scorelines like 0-9 to 0-8 as the imitators began to make their mark. But when the recent final was dominated by defensive tactics from both sides, it was time to sit up and take notice.
Kerry were as adept at this type of play as Donegal and clearly had rehearsed this system. Football teams from the Kingdom have always been regarded as the prime example for how football should be played based on their record of now having an average of one All-Ireland victory every third year since they won their first Sam in 1903, with 37 titles from 111 years since then.
The one thing they had not coped with during that time was the blanket defence and all that goes with it - until now that is.
Then on the biggest stage of all, Kerry took the plunge by adapting that over-defensive style and won their 37th All-Ireland because of it. But as everybody knows, it led to a less than pretty game of football and many neutrals were disappointed.
Kerry of course were as delighted to have won this final as any of their previous 36 and why not? All-Irelands are, above all, for winning and the style can wait for another day.
The question now is whether this type of play will be the norm for Kerry football teams. If it is, then we can say goodbye to the good times because soon every county will be employing the same tactics, leaving us with diabolical games dominated by teams struggling to master the real art of Gaelic football.
It is important to stress in relation to Kerry that massed defence was not the main reason why they beat Donegal, but it was a factor. Equally important was that Eamonn Fitzmaurice and his backroom team decided to maintain a properly-manned back-line throughout the encounter with only sporadic raids into attack by defenders.
The best hope for football in the coming years is Kerry will continue the sort of football that has served them so well over the past 111 years and not resort to the massed defence that is threatening to destroy the game.
I would be surprised if ordinary GAA people in Kerry would be happy with abandoning their tried and tested approach to football and, of course, it is important to say that the recent final was probably just a once-off, a necessity to deal with a specific problem regarding Donegal's style of play.
For the sake of football, let's all hope so.
Power-brokers won't allow any changes to Championship
Apart from Ulster there was little excitement to be garnered from the provincial championship draws last week. Kerry will play Cork in the Munster final and beat them, while Dublin will skate through Leinster.
In Connacht there should be a Mayo-Roscommon final, so only in Ulster is there uncertainty. The standard in Ulster is not as high as in the glory days of the Tyrone-Armagh times a decade ago, with the exception of Donegal.
It seems everybody in the GAA wants changes in the format of the All-Ireland Championship - they want it but they do not want to do anything practical about it. A typical GAA scenario.
The GAA is not run by the plain people of Ireland - instead the really big decisions are made by the members of the four provincial councils - about 75 people - and the Central Council, with about 45 members.
So the hundreds of thousands of dedicated GAA people, and bodies like the GPA, who come up with all sorts of wonderful ideas for changing the present lopsided four provinces scenario, are living in cloud cuckoo land if they think the provincial championship system will be changed in the foreseeable future.
When the FRC made a very modest proposal to adjust the provinces slightly into four groups of eight, several of those power-brokers were immediately out to denigrate it. That's the real world of GAA politics.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 13, 2014 7:50:50 GMT
Eugene wants Kerry to return to the juvenine defending that conceded goals in the 2005 and 2008 finals v Tyrone , 2010 v Down, 2011 v Dublin, 2012 v Donegal and 2013 v Dublin. Wouldn't that be a wonderful thing for the GAA.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 13, 2014 9:00:37 GMT
I would disagree that Kerry were very defensive but I would argue very strongly against the use of the word over-defensive.
Donegal in 2011 were over-defensive. Donegal in the last ten minutes in 2014 were over-defensive.
Donegal in 2012 were not over-defensive. Kerry in 2014 were not over-defensive.
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Post by Joxer on Oct 13, 2014 9:30:14 GMT
I would disagree that Kerry were very defensive but I would argue very strongly against the use of the word over-defensive. Donegal in 2011 were over-defensive. Donegal in the last ten minutes in 2014 were over-defensive. Donegal in 2012 were not over-defensive. Kerry in 2014 were not over-defensive. To be fair, I think Eugene is more filling a column with low level noise than anything else..sure, he's probably hoping to raise a few hackles and be discussed etc but nothing of too much note I would have said. Eugene is long enough around to know that Kerry adapt to cope with changing circumstances and have done so down through the years. Our adaption in the final this year is and was a fantastic achievement, in the circumstances and shows tremendous capability among both our players and coaching/management. Eamon added another 'play' to this teams playbook, nothing more but it has notably expanded that playbook. We showed we can now cope / deal with the circumstances which had stymied us over the recent decade or so. We'll get better at it, when we need to employ it, given that we launched it, as Eugene points out, on the biggest stage of all. It wasn't perfect by any means but I've no doubt it'll be perfected and used, as and when needed. I do believe that given time it'll show us to be an even more difficult opponent than heretofore. Its obviously been a hugely successful year but when analysed in the cold, a few years hence, I think we will regard this years recapturing of Sam as one of our most significant and not because we will have changed our style to what we used in the final, but that we'll show we can 'wheel' it out when needed, adapt as required but let our football do the talking at the end. Time will tell, we will have knockers and naysayers, but I do believe we have taken a big step forward in the development and expansion of our own legacy.
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Post by donegalman on Oct 13, 2014 11:15:55 GMT
Not a bad article in fairness.
Question re Kerry and the league. Will we see Colm Cooper in the first games? Will Kerry be taking it easy or going for a few early results, I think that in the last few years, u have been slow starters, I dont know what the fixtures are like for you this year, but to go into the last 4 games in a position to hustle for results is not always the best way to have to finish the league. I know we are in tralee next march, hopefully we will have points on the board before we travel down.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Oct 13, 2014 12:12:24 GMT
The key priority is to win and in Kerry we took our time in adopting to what was clearly a new way of playing that gives more victories and this years's Sam is a case in point. Pretty it is not but will it evolve? I don't think rules can bring about change so there may be a 'dilemma period' of uncertainty, a 'wait and see' period.
As regards the structure of the Championship, no matter what is done, it won't change the quality of teams and I think it is right to seed Kerry and Cork apart as it gives weaker teams a better chance to come through in a given year while also preserving the spectacle of provincial finals. Seeding in Ulster is harder to achieve and this year it could be argued that Donegal may have a better chance to win Sam if they lost the first game. The root issue here is the contrast in quality with the majority of teams not having any realistic chance of winning Sam/McCarty; the cause is to do with external factors so anything the GAA do will only be reactive and therefore as likely to do as much harm than good. Have we already enough All Ireland competitions for teams knocked out?
There are also other external factors that will help the GAA, E.g. the free flow of suggestions from The Internet, and this will only work better over time and hopefully the 'crowd sourcing' feedback will not be ignored by HQ.
I stick by what I said seamo as regards the minors, we need to look at how soon we introduce footballers to the realities of the game and we don't want to deny ourselves of victory. JO'C did say that he will not change and that is perfectly understandable given his pedigree of the 'purist' if far more enjoyable game. It is a conversation we must have for the benefit of Kerry GAA and it is not about individuals; the players must be the number one priority.
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Post by givehimaball on Oct 13, 2014 14:25:12 GMT
Not a bad article in fairness. Question re Kerry and the league. Will we see Colm Cooper in the first games? Will Kerry be taking it easy or going for a few early results, I think that in the last few years, u have been slow starters, I dont know what the fixtures are like for you this year, but to go into the last 4 games in a position to hustle for results is not always the best way to have to finish the league. I know we are in tralee next march, hopefully we will have points on the board before we travel down. He could well be in action with Crokes in terms of club action - If Mid Kerry win the county final and Crokes win the club championship, Crokes will be in action in the club and the Munster club is looking wide open - Cratloe will probably be hampered by the fact that they are in the hurling as well and the fact that there is no Tipp rep will make it even easier. Fixtures arent bad in the league - have 4 games at home so should be a bit more favourable than 4 away. However looking at the teams Divison 1 should be a cracker next year with no easy games for anyone and every game vital.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 13, 2014 18:32:20 GMT
I stick by what I said seamo as regards the minors, we need to look at how soon we introduce footballers to the realities of the game and we don't want to deny ourselves of victory. JO'C did say that he will not change and that is perfectly understandable given his pedigree of the 'purist' if far more enjoyable game. It is a conversation we must have for the benefit of Kerry GAA and it is not about individuals; the players must be the number one priority. the 2013 semi final loss to the Tyrone minors was a classic example of how not to close out a game from a winning position. But that was before Jacks time.
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Post by southward on Oct 13, 2014 19:16:08 GMT
McGee is right of course that Kerry supporters won't tolerate defensive setups becoming the norm. It was necessary to get over the line against Donegal, fair enough, but who'd want to see that sort of game all the time.
The hope is that this year's final will discourage other teams from continuing with, or adopting, this style. Which seems a bit ironic but it may just send the message that it won't do ye any good, we can play that game if we have to, so why don't we just all play ball instead. Maybe that's a bit naive but here's hoping anyway.
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Post by seamo on Oct 13, 2014 19:36:24 GMT
If Eugene and co in the media had had lofty principles and aspirations when "blanket defences" and "sweepers" first came on the scene, than much of the tripe over the past decade could have been avoided.
But alas Eugene is just another in the long line of those who are reactive rather than proactive. I say reactive with some hesitation; 10 years later ain't much of a reaction!!!
Another "review" committee anyone?!!!! lol
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Post by seamo on Oct 13, 2014 19:44:58 GMT
... I stick by what I said seamo as regards the minors, we need to look at how soon we introduce footballers to the realities of the game and we don't want to deny ourselves of victory. JO'C did say that he will not change and that is perfectly understandable given his pedigree of the 'purist' if far more enjoyable game. It is a conversation we must have for the benefit of Kerry GAA and it is not about individuals; the players must be the number one priority.I don't see how what your saying puts the players as the number one priority? Surely what your saying, is making winning the number one priority. We're just after winning 3 AI titles this year, so we're doing something right. And for the sake of Kerry football, we shouldn't lose sight of the importance of having an enjoyable game, even if we may not win as many AI titles as Ulster teams... wait aren't we more successful in that department??? lol Kerry GAA is fine as it is, at intercounty level. Lets try and do something about our club fixtures and the smaller matters regarding intercounty will take care of themselves.
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Post by falveyb2k on Oct 13, 2014 19:52:38 GMT
That's one of the worst and most poorly informed articles written by McGee and that's saying something after some of the articles he's written down the years. Kerry kept their defenders in place at all times and when they lost the ball the midfielders and half forwards stretched out across the 45 to prevent runs through, no sweeper in front of the full back line. Even McGuinness commented after that donegal could have popped ball into pockets in front of their full forward line, it was tried on Marc and he came out with the ball on a few occasions. Hardly blanket defense football!!!!!
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Post by tyroneperson on Oct 13, 2014 20:30:06 GMT
Kerry adapted to Donegal's tactics, it's not a big deal. Pretty much everyone knew it was going to be like that kind of game. Quite a lot of folk here are saying Kerry weren't that defensive so I might watch the match again with an eye on Kerry's tactics out of curiosity. Most of the good football was played by Kerry regardless.
Anyway congrats on your 37th all-ireland, haven't posted recently.
McGee's irritating. Think the likes of McGee, Brolly, Spillane should be forced to manage a modern-day intercounty team. Obviously a trite point but I don't know what they expect. Most games at the latter stages of the championship anyway are still pretty entertaining.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Oct 13, 2014 21:17:38 GMT
Look at your own signature seamo, 'where there is a will there is a way', and it is the way we have to play these days to win and Sam we won by embracing change, not ignoring it. Spectators like to watch pure football but players like to win a medal and these days it is unfortunately a case of 'either or'.
I wouldn't have an opinion on Club games apart from thinking that they should go ahead in parallel with the inter-county season; let the majority of players and supporters enjoy the smell of fresh cut grass!
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Post by seamo on Oct 13, 2014 22:06:52 GMT
Look at your own signature seamo, 'where there is a will there is a way', and it is the way we have to play these days to win and Sam we won by embracing change, not ignoring it. Spectators like to watch pure football but players like to win a medal and these days it is unfortunately a case of 'either or'.I wouldn't have an opinion on Club games apart from thinking that they should go ahead in parallel with the inter-county season; let the majority of players and supporters enjoy the smell of fresh cut grass! So going back to your original point, why does JOC have to embrace this change? He won too!!!! lol
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 13, 2014 22:37:55 GMT
Kerry held a traditional defensive formation, played all the ball across the middle third and pretty much neutered Donegal's break away game at source. With McFadden off form, their primary inside ball winner and scorer in 2012, and redundant, Donegal's game was up. McFadden, Lacey, Brearty and Murphy were all off form and should be the focus of Donegal's demise. Not to mention McHugh gone walk about.
Eugene should focus on the real facts rather than on what the cheer leaders on TSG are peddling. It seems to be lost on some that a young Kerry team in transition minus eight players from last year went up to Croker and beat a Donegal team in decline. An overly defensive strategy my arse! Kerry cherry picking number 37, I can certainly live with that. It probably wasn't the first time they came away with one that wasn't expected over the course of a season.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Oct 14, 2014 0:53:38 GMT
JO'C won because our minors were far better than the score suggests and we were lucky they didn't snatch it from us. I don't really see your point, JO'C says he will not adopt the new strategy, his words were to the effect that 'he'd he unpopular'. I admire JO'C but we are all entitled to express our views.
Re Magee's article, like Spillane he is a 'purist' and when you have seen all the beautiful football they have, then 'the system' won't entertain you. But Kerry did not lead the game into this, but we have to adopt as we want to win and that we did. As I already said, rules is no way to change the game; how we revert to putting on spectacles I simply don't know; maybe the game will evolve naturally towards this and maybe it won't. Kerry have proven we can play any team at their own game and win; this year we played many styles, adopting for each game. Purist hurling by Jimmy Barry's Rebels this year fell foul to tactics and The Dubs likewise.
The prospect of next years games is mouth watering like never before and the uncertainty only adds to the excitement. Fitzy & Co are capable of serving up anything after this year and they have exceeded even the most optimistic expectations. No matter what happens from here on, the challenges that were overcome in '14 will never diminish. It was one of the greatest management achievements in the history of Kerry football; having lost a clutch of key players and to be the rank outsiders of the final four, and to grind out ultimate victory under such pressure, and to do so with such an avalanche of new talent, ah man, massive, go hiontach ar fad!
Slán go foil a chairde go leir ó an contae great a bhfuil an Contae Chiarrai!
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Post by sidelined on Oct 14, 2014 9:55:40 GMT
was it joe lennon that said that kerry were 20 years behind as regards football in 1968? teams change styles and tactics to suit the era. kerry have never been afraid to adapt and still have the skill and know how to win. the catch and kick era, the running game era and now the defensive era. change happens and teams adapt simple as.
magee, spillane and co refer back to the glory years of football, jesus there was some woeful games played then as well
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 14, 2014 10:52:27 GMT
Why is everyone calling him Magee??? It's McGee.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Oct 14, 2014 10:58:37 GMT
That's more like it sidelined but you'd have to say it took us until Fitzy & Co to adopt to the current 'style' and there was a few Sams there for the taking in the meantime; you wouldn't want our minors to suffer similarly. We must also bear in mind that Mickey Sheehy as part of Fitzy's management team was a 'purist' in his playing days, and as was David Moran's dad Ogie.
Yes there is always bad games but you'd have to say that 'purist' football is sublime, even thinking about it races the heart.
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Post by donegalman on Oct 14, 2014 15:02:47 GMT
That's more like it sidelined but you'd have to say it took us until Fitzy & Co to adopt to the current 'style' and there was a few Sams there for the taking in the meantime; you wouldn't want our minors to suffer similarly. We must also bear in mind that Mickey Sheehy as part of Fitzy's management team was a 'purist' in his playing days, and as was David Moran's dad Ogie. Yes there is always bad games but you'd have to say that 'purist' football is sublime, even thinking about it races the heart. I thought your minors won very stylishly indeed. They were very impressive in the second half. I dont think that they will go down the defensive road in fairness. They didnt play over defensively against our lads, who played a very defensive game. Im not even sure that they considered changing their style before the match.
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Post by Corner Back on Oct 14, 2014 18:07:09 GMT
That's one of the worst and most poorly informed articles written by McGee and that's saying something after some of the articles he's written down the years. Kerry kept their defenders in place at all times and when they lost the ball the midfielders and half forwards stretched out across the 45 to prevent runs through, no sweeper in front of the full back line. Even McGuinness commented after that donegal could have popped ball into pockets in front of their full forward line, it was tried on Marc and he came out with the ball on a few occasions. Hardly blanket defense football!!!!! The post above is spot on. Kerry won this years All Ireland simply because they were better able to adapt to the circumstances of each game. For example, Cork did not know what to do when Declan dropped deep in the Munster Final. Kerry showed their adaptability in the Final when the half back line effectively played as free men - holding their position and waiting for the runners. Another example of this adaptability would be J'OD roaming out the field in the final. Peter Crowley had to deal with a totally different circumstance in the Final than he did in the semi final. Talk of blanket defence is nonsense and can be answered simply by asking who were the sweepers! The half back line! Half forward line of Buckley, M. Geaney/O'Brien and Donnacha did not play deep.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Oct 14, 2014 18:19:33 GMT
So you agree with me donegalman, well apart from what Kerry will do in future and which is the bone of contention I referred to at the outset.
By the way do Donegal have a forum like this?
I'd be optimistic for Donegal next year and Rory might well benefit from the steam that Jim has built up. They will not become weak overnight and I could see the same four teams in the semis next year.
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Post by seamo on Oct 14, 2014 19:11:07 GMT
JO'C won because our minors were far better than the score suggests and we were lucky they didn't snatch it from us. I don't really see your point, JO'C says he will not adopt the new strategy, his words were to the effect that 'he'd he unpopular'. I admire JO'C but we are all entitled to express our views. Re Magee's article, like Spillane he is a 'purist' and when you have seen all the beautiful football they have, then 'the system' won't entertain you. But Kerry did not lead the game into this, but we have to adopt as we want to win and that we did. As I already said, rules is no way to change the game; how we revert to putting on spectacles I simply don't know; maybe the game will evolve naturally towards this and maybe it won't. Kerry have proven we can play any team at their own game and win; this year we played many styles, adopting for each game. Purist hurling by Jimmy Barry's Rebels this year fell foul to tactics and The Dubs likewise. The prospect of next years games is mouth watering like never before and the uncertainty only adds to the excitement. Fitzy & Co are capable of serving up anything after this year and they have exceeded even the most optimistic expectations. No matter what happens from here on, the challenges that were overcome in '14 will never diminish. It was one of the greatest management achievements in the history of Kerry football; having lost a clutch of key players and to be the rank outsiders of the final four, and to grind out ultimate victory under such pressure, and to do so with such an avalanche of new talent, ah man, massive, go hiontach ar fad! Slán go foil a chairde go leir ó an contae great a bhfuil an Contae Chiarrai! Do you even see your own point? I'm imagining a convo between yourself and Jack would go something like this... "Hey Jack I know you just won our first minor AI in 20 years, and yeah you've won an AI u21, and a couple of seniors along the way; well done on that.....BUT your doing it wrong, can you do it like Eamon please." And Jack would be unpopular if he did this; why win ugly when you can win without the ugliness, which Jack has suceeded in doing.
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Post by gamechanger10 on Oct 14, 2014 19:41:37 GMT
Yeah I agree with almost all of the posts, Kerry have a tradition of cherry picking the best traits (be they positive or negative) of teams that they are defeated by. Look at the Dubs in the 70's the dreaded overuse of the hand pass was there and we had to put up with it, Kerry learned and used it to devastating effect for several years until the brains in HQ changed the rules. Will this happen again? If Kerry marry their football skills with the defensive SYSTEM then we could be almost unbeatable for the foreseeable future. Maybe this will see the administrators come together again and bring in regulations that will make room for the best traits of our game to breath with ease again. Fitzmaurice had four full on training sessions to prepare for the grinding defensive system designed to stifle the flamboyance and instinctive skills that we so earnestly try to imbue in our players from their first days in a club to the last day they kick a ball in a shared jersey. This was an incredible achievement and one we as a county should be immensely proud of, not the over emphasis on defence but the trust between management and players to do something that was largely alien to them, I thing it displayed the talent throughout the team that they can adopt a plan and play a system so well on short notice. We have the talend woven through the DNA of our players and we now have a few more cards to play should we need to use them,,, we really now are a very dangerous animal
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