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Post by tommynk on Aug 28, 2007 19:12:29 GMT
todays herald blames him for dublins defeat saying it incited the players.I dont think it had that much of an effect
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Post by peig on Aug 28, 2007 19:34:02 GMT
todays herald blames him for dublins defeat saying it incited the players.I dont think it had that much of an effect LMFAO!!!
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Post by Walter Mitty on Aug 28, 2007 19:50:22 GMT
In all fairness.....ASU hit it on the head...Liam Hayes had a cunning plan....i ll be controlveriosal and make my bobs out of this. He is not the first or the last!
he is probably laughing at every one of us!!
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Aug 28, 2007 20:18:31 GMT
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Post by Riocht on Aug 28, 2007 20:35:03 GMT
Nach mór an tamadán leis é? Ní thógfainn aon cheann don bhfear bocht - mo ghraidhin é ó Chontae na Mí - An iomaca fulaingte ansan d'aon duine. Ní thuigeann sé cé go dóigh leis féin go ndeineann ... Mar a deir an tseanfhocal ... Ní féidir capall ráis a dhéanamh d'asal! Ciarraí abú!
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 28, 2007 20:36:39 GMT
He cant have been serious ........... it was obviously done for a purpose.
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Post by peig on Aug 28, 2007 21:47:16 GMT
Nach mór an tamadán leis é? Ní thógfainn aon cheann don bhfear bocht - mo ghraidhin é ó Chontae na Mí - An iomaca fulaingte ansan d'aon duine. Ní thuigeann sé cé go dóigh leis féin go ndeineann ... Mar a deir an tseanfhocal ... [glow=red,2,300]Ní féidir capall ráis a dhéanamh d'asal![/glow] Ciarraí abú! Is minic a bhris béal duine a shrón chomh maith!!!
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Post by falveyb2k on Aug 28, 2007 22:40:52 GMT
outsider, Cooper ended up as the top scorer in that final. Do some proper research and analysis or you'll carry as much weight as that Hayes
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Post by tyroneperson on Aug 29, 2007 0:45:45 GMT
Anyway, the article's crap. If I was from Kerry I'd be properly annoyed with it, I'd be a hypocrite if I said otherwise. Spillane may be annoying, but he's never gotten as personal as Hayes did there. What the hell was he thinking. It's bloody harsh on Cooper/Moynihan especially, nearly a character assassination. I'm not putting this on, it really is poor. Maybe he's doing it for the publicity, the article's so far-fetched it's nearly hard to believe otherwise.
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Post by animal on Aug 29, 2007 8:11:04 GMT
Anyway, the article's crap. If I was from Kerry I'd be properly annoyed with it, I'd be a hypocrite if I said otherwise. Spillane may be annoying, but he's never gotten as personal as Hayes did there. What the hell was he thinking. It's bloody harsh on Cooper/Moynihan especially, nearly a character assassination. I'm not putting this on, it really is poor. Maybe he's doing it for the publicity, the article's so far-fetched it's nearly hard to believe otherwise. Thanks for the neutral perspective there. Maybe we're not mad afterall!!
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Post by Piggy on Aug 29, 2007 8:16:31 GMT
in fairness if that stuff was said about a team who've won no all ireland like Mayo and Dublin it would seen as harsh.all these lads have jobs to do the following day and don't need to be reading tripe like this.you'd think he'd know this better than most,what a stupid man
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Post by seamus on Aug 29, 2007 9:09:50 GMT
Just read the Kerryman this morning. They interviewed him yesterday for a reaction and he stood by his article and expanded it by saying that there have been several great teams of the last 20 years: Meath in the late eighties Cork team that won beack to back Down Galway Armagh Tyrone Kerry and that..... wait for it....... he would put Kerry bottom of that pile!! What a tool!!
Here are the facts: Kerry played Armagh 4 times winning 2, drawing 1 and losing 1 by a point
Galway have never threatened us apart from the drawn '00 final. We annihalated them in '02.
Tyrone had a great team from '03 to '05 without a doubt but have not been able to reproduce it. We coped without Moynihan, McCarthy, Fitzmaurice and even Darragh for most of Sunday. They did not have strength in depth. We also won in '04 without Darragh and Seamus
Cork and Meath were reasonable but not great
Kerry keep producing talent, other counties don't. That is the difference. We don't have A great team but continuous excellence at the top table. In recent years we have lost Hassett Cinneide Kirby Daly McCarthy Moynihan Fitzmaurice Maurice the Great
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 29, 2007 9:15:01 GMT
Teams may come and teams may go fearless fast and clever but, the Kerry team like the liffey stream keeps rolling in forever.
That was written in the 30s .
Liam Hayes appears to miss that point.
Its like the lad down in Ballyheige who worked for the council. He had the same pickaxe for 40 years. He only changed the handle 5 times and the head 3 times.
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Post by kerryman1 on Aug 29, 2007 9:15:02 GMT
I say thank you Liam Hayes!! We shouldnt give out to this man for writing such *e. I think he contributed more than anyone for our win on Sunday! This article was brought up in the dressing room at half time and if that was enough to drive our boys on... So thanks Liam for the extra bit of drive and incentive, we'll hope he says the same about Cork!!
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 29, 2007 10:06:53 GMT
kerry dosent need liam hayes utterings to win big game in croker
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 29, 2007 10:11:44 GMT
this is the same person that wrote an article about jacko in the early ninties about jacko losing his hair,it was highly insulting at the time.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 29, 2007 10:14:10 GMT
I say thank you Liam Hayes!! We shouldnt give out to this man for writing such *e. I think he contributed more than anyone for our win on Sunday! This article was brought up in the dressing room at half time and if that was enough to drive our boys on... So thanks Liam for the extra bit of drive and incentive, we'll hope he says the same about Cork!! exactly
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 29, 2007 11:15:55 GMT
just a thought.............
imagine if Liam Hayes was a referee rather than a journalist.........
imagine taking up a whistle with all those prejudices going through his mind
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 29, 2007 11:27:53 GMT
good point,you would wonder sometimes about some.
personally i think pat mcaneeny and dickey murphy are in a league of their own.
the frees on the 14 and 21 yard lines given to offally in '82 often make me think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Aine on Aug 29, 2007 12:58:16 GMT
He has been asked to do a follow up to his article next sunday. Humble pie or Stick to his guns?
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 29, 2007 14:08:13 GMT
He'll stick to his guns, and get the full support of his editor PJ Cunningham.
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Post by tyroneperson on Aug 29, 2007 14:26:19 GMT
On the bright side at least it was used as a motivation on Sunday against the dubs. I'm surprised he hasn't really backtracked from what he wrote.
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Post by falveyb2k on Aug 29, 2007 15:45:24 GMT
No, cowards never admit when they're wrong. He's after saying now that if Kerry were a great team they wouldn't have needed to do what they did at half time. This from a man who admitted in the past that Meath used the negative comments about them as motivation! Pot, kettle and black come to mind! All great teams and players have used this as motivation. Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls(Jordan even told Woods about motivation, Hayes said Woods would never take any notice of the media!), Bill Bellichick and the Patriots, Alex Ferguson and United, Pat Spillane used an article by the tribune in the 80s and was man of the match in an All Ireland final that evening.
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 29, 2007 15:48:34 GMT
Lads, just get over it. It's not like it matters anymore does it? I'd be more worried about Jack talking your players up no end in the Times.
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Post by animal on Aug 29, 2007 16:11:42 GMT
he's highly unlikely to back-track but the further he goes with this the more ridiculous he comes across. He did say on Newstalk that he thought Kerry were a better team than Cork so that might be his get out of jail clause. We can expect him to take the line of "worst all-Ireland pairing of all time" etc. Rather than give Kerry credit he merely bemoans the quality of opposition. So I wouldn't be too surprised if he tips us to win the final but with the resevation that we're still hopeless! Go figure! (so watch out Owenabue he might get vicious on Cork too in a back-handed way) I feel sorry for the likes of Kieran Shannon who consistantly writes fairly and intelligently on all teams. I wouldn't be surprised if one or two players refuse to speak with the Trubune now which would be a shame. Also one of our own up to very recently was a sports writer there, TJ Flynn of Spa (who has a book coming out soon on Kerry GAA legends). Also Mick Clifford a features writer is a Kerryman who must be embarrassed by all this.
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 29, 2007 17:02:34 GMT
Well I ask you to find a positive article about Cork this year! Between them playing to two worst games ever of football and playing a horrible style etc etc etc. I do wonder how they even won a match this year with such a team of useless footballers. Please note any Cork people that venture on here, I am just shortening what the wise journalists have said. (besides Ó Cinnéide)
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 29, 2007 17:14:10 GMT
in fairness. Cork Louth and Cork Sligo were akin to chinese water torture as a viewer. The Meath game was a good game though, and Cork played great stuff, especially in the second half. yu cant blame anyone for anything negative they write about teh previous two games. and Hayes article wasnt just negative. It was downright lies and nonsensical rubbish that was so far removed from the truth it maight as well ahve been written by someone who never saw an oneills being kicked.
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Post by macker on Aug 29, 2007 17:18:47 GMT
Why is there 8 pages on this plonker. Lets move off this topic and hope he comes out with another idiotic statement that will be brought out at half time against Cork.
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Post by FatTom on Aug 29, 2007 19:33:15 GMT
Well I ask you to find a positive article about Cork this year! Between them playing to two worst games ever of football and playing a horrible style etc etc etc. I do wonder how they even won a match this year with such a team of useless footballers. Please note any Cork people that venture on here, I am just shortening what the wise journalists have said. (besides Ó Cinnéide) In fairness to the journos Morgan went a bit over the top. They were right in their analysis of yer performances against Sligo and Louth they were awful. However I agree that Cork don't get enough respect and, outside a full strength Tyrone, I think they are the strongest team Kerry could face. I would rate this team a better version of Dublin, very similar in terms of lacking an imaginative forward ,but Cork are stronger elsewhere. The Dublin forward line is probably stronger but Cork from 1-9 are far better.
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Post by Riocht on Aug 29, 2007 20:01:53 GMT
Nach mór an tamadán leis é? Ní thógfainn aon cheann don bhfear bocht - mo ghraidhin é ó Chontae na Mí - An iomaca fulaingte ansan d'aon duine. Ní thuigeann sé cé go dóigh leis féin go ndeineann ... Mar a deir an tseanfhocal ... [glow=red,2,300]Ní féidir capall ráis a dhéanamh d'asal![/glow] Ciarraí abú! Is minic a bhris béal duine a shrón chomh maith!!! Is fíor duit!
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