Joxer
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Post by Joxer on Aug 27, 2007 13:55:59 GMT
Rashers, I used to read his stuff too when he was playing for Meath and generally found him to be 'in the ball' but in recent years, I think hes lost it completely. The more bizarre the better it appears...more like a cry for attention and to be honest for a long time now, I couldn't be bothered reading his stuff, whathever county it related to.
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Post by seamus on Aug 27, 2007 13:57:08 GMT
Sean Walsh was on Radio Kerry this morning saying the article was mentioned in the dressingroom at half time. Liam Hayes was on with John Drummey and Tim Moynihan this afternoon but the boys let him run the show.What i would'nt have given to have heard Miriam O'Callaghan giving him a going over.
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 27, 2007 14:04:14 GMT
I agree with what Jack O'Connor said about him - "Liam Hayes couldn't write to Santy". Hayes gives out about Kerry not being a great team, but he should look at his own team first. Meath were very lucky to get their two All-Irelands at a very weak moment for Gaelic Football - when the great Kerry and Dublin teams were past it and just before a very good Cork team and some very good Ulster teams were coming into bloom. I'm not saying it wasn't a good Meath team but they didn't beat anyone of note.
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 27, 2007 14:11:38 GMT
What i would'nt have given to have heard Miriam O'Callaghan giving him a going over. I don't know if it's really that much of a punishment to have Miriam O'Callaghan giving you a going over!
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 27, 2007 14:11:49 GMT
.What i would'nt have given to have heard Miriam O'Callaghan giving him a going over. what I wouldnt give to have Miriam O'Callaghan give me a going over... Now now lads......tisn't Carry On O'Callaghan we're writing the script for :-).....Control
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 27, 2007 14:14:21 GMT
Yer a disgrace lads....
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 27, 2007 14:16:16 GMT
you're one to talk....
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 27, 2007 14:40:41 GMT
I'd ask you to explain IFTB, but I'd be afraid what you'd come up with next. What did the bould Liam say on Radio Kerry?
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Post by branch on Aug 27, 2007 14:47:03 GMT
I agree with what Jack O'Connor said about him - "Liam Hayes couldn't write to Santy". Excellent! Yeah, curious what he had to say on Radio Kerry???
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Post by islandexile on Aug 27, 2007 16:23:46 GMT
Absolutely amazed by this article. It insults so many great players past and present. It really doesn't warrant so much debate. It's not worth the paper it's written on. In saying that however, I hope he writes something similar on the morning of the All-Ireland to get the boys going.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 27, 2007 16:37:11 GMT
bet most of ye will be rushing out to buy the paper on the morning of the final,as the owner of the paper thats exactly what hayes wants ye to do.
maybe ye could organise to buy a copy between every ten of ye.
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Post by peig on Aug 27, 2007 17:03:38 GMT
I'm waiting patiently by the radio HOPING to hear him spouting sh1te on either Drivetime Sport or Off the Ball.
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Post by Baldy on Aug 27, 2007 17:24:23 GMT
Kerrygold - he doesnt own the Tribune. Indo effectively controls it (30% stake and a bunch of loans). Hayes was associated with that crap sports paper the Title and a number of other failed papers. He currently is involved in a number of regional Dublin titles
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Post by FatTom on Aug 27, 2007 20:33:33 GMT
To the most point it's sensationalist rubbish aimed to move papers in Dublin - this paper only ever really sold for one reason only - Ross O'Carroll Kelly.
I'd agree with his assertion that our performance of lofting high ball into Donnaghy was pathetic. We need more angled balls and more variation. A lot of this was down to rustiness. As was Eoin's tackle that gave away the penalty.
Rustiness - far from pathetic. And Kerry were deserved winners against an overly physical negative team. Mayo to their detriment at least tried to beat Kerry playing football. Unforunately for Mayo Kerry rip those teams apart.
If Hayes writes a rebuttal next week praising the class of Cooper and O'Sullivan in their ability to control a game then he may remove some of the egg from his face.
What's great for us is that we can have a good laugh at this eejit for a long time to come. I mean who can take anything he ever writes seriously again. Worse again, who is the editor at that paper and does he even read this sh*te before it comes in.
He comments that an All Ireland against a team that is hammered is of precious little value - Mayo were in the final on merit. Kerry could have done the same to Dublin had they met them that day.
It reminds me of this year when people criticised Meath for their failings against Cork instead of focusing on the wonderful Cork performacen. Hayes is of the mentality that Kerry only win handy All Irelands. You can only beat what is put in front of you. Kerry have won both difficult and not so difficult All Irelands. And for me all our wins have been memorable. Our losses too.
The performances but in by these players over the last ten years for some, since 2000 for more - should be commended.
The Kingdom no longer rules. It's finished, it's kaput.
4 All Ireland Finals on the Trot. Not missed a semi since '99.
Colm Cooper plays in his 5th Final at 24 years of age. Dara O Se is going for his 5th medal.
These are unbelievable achievments in the modern age of Gaelic Games.
I'm going to tell you that Kerry football teams have barely left a mark on the game for over 20 years - less than a handful of All-Irelands, and not one of them truly memorable in my book.
If Kerry haven't left a mark then who have - oh the great Meath Teams of 96 and 99 is it?
In years to come this Kerry team will go down as one of the finest exponents of the games great skills.
He comments that Moynihan is not a great. Gooch isn't class.
Kerry and Cork, right now, are both in Dublin's pocket.
Laughable - again he is just appealing to the masses to sell papers in the Capital!
They'll make themselves at home, and look and feel absolutely fantastic.
Dublin are so close, finally, and the poorest and most shaken Kerry team of the last 20 years are in their way. It does not have to be all that close. Dublin could, all going well, win this game by anything between five and 10 points. It all depends, really, on the Dublin defence. It's got to hold up, that's all. Today, we've got a 'very good' Dublin defence against a 'good' Kerry forward-line. If defence holds solid, The Dubs are home. As I asked last week - spread the two teams out on the table in front of you, weigh them up, shake them around, hell, turn them upside down and whichever way you look at it, this day is going to end up with a Dublin victory. Unless Dublin fold, or get caught in holiday mode in the final five minutes, and neither of those happenings are going to disturb or turnaround the result of this semi-final.
Dublin by a magical, but believable, seven or eight
That last passage is what I would describe as the worst analysis of a game I have ever ever read.
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Post by kerryeye on Aug 27, 2007 20:35:06 GMT
You just role in here after a year away,no hello no nothing. Welcome back big man,You've been missed.
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Post by seamus on Aug 27, 2007 20:49:45 GMT
Jayus Tom, You told us you were going for a pint of milk and wander home a year later........... Are you back for good or just home for the week?
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Post by seamus on Aug 27, 2007 20:51:18 GMT
And just as i said it he logged off and disappeared into the sunset like the Yank that comes back to the green sod once a year.....
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Post by FatTom on Aug 27, 2007 21:09:08 GMT
I'm a working man now no time for the posting.
On holidays at the moment and after yesterday's display had to wander in for a look!
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 27, 2007 21:28:06 GMT
Ye should be thanking him............. he did Dublin no favours whatso ever.
I dont think he is the full shilling
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Post by Die Hard Kerry Fan on Aug 27, 2007 21:31:05 GMT
Hayes' article sounds just like other begrudgers I've had to put up with over the years. The fellas who hate to see Kerry win, the ones that put Kerry down at every given opportunity. Like one fella, a Monaghan man, after the 2005 final. Mouthing off about the state of Kerry football and how bad it had always been, from a feckin Monaghan man! You'll always have the same, poisonous arseholes though. The jealous types, they do their best to put us down to try to someway make up for their county's inadequacies. Give Hayes about as much attention as you'd give them - none at all.
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 27, 2007 21:33:24 GMT
Lads, as Peig said in the Cork Kerry tread, be gracious in victory. Maybe it's time to let go. If Dubin had won, his article would have been seen as insightful...
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Post by FatTom on Aug 27, 2007 21:39:23 GMT
I disagree.
There is no insight in it at all.
Even if Dublin had won by 8 some of the stuff stated in his article is still sh*te of the highest order.
It's sensationalist bullsh*t of the highest order.
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 27, 2007 21:44:34 GMT
I didn't think Kerry (or even Cork) would ever have thought it insightful, I just meant sometimes when so called experts call it right, they are seen as such. It can be noted Ó Cinnéide called a Cork win before Meath, and generally to be fair to him is hardly ever that far off. I found it interesting that he said his heart said Kerry for the final. Was that him being cute? I would have thought most people's heads should go for Kerry too.
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Post by FatTom on Aug 27, 2007 21:49:08 GMT
To be honest I told everyone that Kerry would have it tough against Monaghan and Cork would beat Meath.
Masters is not a big loss to that Cork team. Not from play anyway.
I think RTE were fair in their analysis of the Sligo and Louth performances. I felt a lot more credit should have been given to Cork for their performance against Meath - the focus was more on Meath's failings. Same as when we destroyed Mayo last year.
RTE focus on the negative of one team more than the brilliance of the other.
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Post by Jacko on Aug 27, 2007 22:08:45 GMT
Just in: Sneak preview of next Sundays LIAM HAYES article.
"Alas, the last of the BIG THREE have fallen. Pulled and dragged by a worthless pawn that is the kerry team. The brave, Loyal and determined Blue army defeated, but not through power, brillance or excellence.....but by vermin so small, not even 7 officals scouring croke park could see the deadly attacks. History will feel sorrow for the GIANTS of the modern game as they fall at the semi-final stage, namely Whelan, Sherlock, Brogan. And what do the tormentors get as a reward for their under hand tactics?An appearance in the All-Ireland final. Is that what you want to be showing your children? Is that the kind of example you want to be? As i rub my crystal ball, i see.... Kerry 0-2 Cork 3-21"................
FU Liam!
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Post by kerryeye on Aug 27, 2007 22:27:24 GMT
Very good jacko
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Post by kingdomkerry on Aug 27, 2007 22:29:04 GMT
Kerry are'nt unbeatable but they are not far off it. As for LH. He has lost all credibility as a journalist.
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Post by kerryeye on Aug 27, 2007 22:46:03 GMT
Id say hayes is delighted with gettin the exposure anyway. Did ye hear that he's lookin to get on celebrity Your a star next year!!
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Post by FatTom on Aug 27, 2007 22:47:36 GMT
Did he ever have credibility as a journalist?
As for the fact that Kerry have no memorable wins. All Meath will be remembered for is fighting!
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Post by kingdomkerry on Aug 27, 2007 22:50:50 GMT
What a disgrace. Some fool. Liam I dare you to come down to Killarney some time. Youd be about as welcome welcome as a fart in a space suit.
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