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Post by greengold35 on Aug 23, 2024 17:17:12 GMT
Having seen a lot of both, I'd rate Rob Stack as much as his Listowel counterpart. Both are tidy ballers I was disappointed with him in the U20 final - thought he was seriously lacking the pace required at inter county level - no slight but similar to Barry Dan imo. Darragh Lyne a much better prospect. |
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Post by mg72 on Aug 23, 2024 18:20:03 GMT
Having seen a lot of both, I'd rate Rob Stack as much as his Listowel counterpart. Both are tidy ballers I was disappointed with him in the U20 final - thought he was seriously lacking the pace required at inter county level - no slight but similar to Barry Dan imo. Darragh Lyne a much better prospect. I'd agree. Rob wasn't great in the 20's final. I've also seen him twice this year with North Kerry 21's and twice with Emmets. He didn't look like a senior prospect in any of these matches. Eoin Clifford from Laune Rangers and Liam Smith from Glenbeigh/Glencar are good prospects. We'll learn more about them this weekend |
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Post by mainevalley on Aug 23, 2024 21:09:59 GMT
I was disappointed with him in the U20 final - thought he was seriously lacking the pace required at inter county level - no slight but similar to Barry Dan imo. Darragh Lyne a much better prospect. I'd agree. Rob wasn't great in the 20's final. I've also seen him twice this year with North Kerry 21's and twice with Emmets. He didn't look like a senior prospect in any of these matches. Eoin Clifford from Laune Rangers and Liam Smith from Glenbeigh/Glencar are good prospects. We'll learn more about them this weekend Darragh lyne is a certainty to go training with Kerry, also mark O'Shea has to be in there. Lyne stood up for legion this year to be fair. I'm intrigued by eoin Clifford, looks very composed but I wonder about his marking if asked to mark as he usually is a sitting centre back but I'd like to see more. Liam smith looks like a different animal from last year, after losing weight and looks fit. Also Tommy quirk and jack brosnan. I'd like to see daire cleary more with mid Kerry. Darragh o Connor and Tommy Cronin both look good too for Kenmare. |
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Post by mg72 on Aug 23, 2024 22:18:57 GMT
[/quote]Darragh lyne is a certainty to go training with Kerry, also mark O'Shea has to be in there. Lyne stood up for legion this year to be fair. I'm intrigued by eoin Clifford, looks very composed but I wonder about his marking if asked to mark as he usually is a sitting centre back but I'd like to see more. Liam smith looks like a different animal from last year, after losing weight and looks fit. Also Tommy quirk and jack brosnan. I'd like to see daire cleary more with mid Kerry. Darragh o Connor and Tommy Cronin both look good too for Kenmare.[/quote]
Wing back is Clifford's best position. He's a very good ball player, who'll always look to move it forward. Great vision and a great kick passer, as seen from the pass to Gearóid Hassett for his goal last weekend. Eoin is well able to do a marking job too. He didn't play with Mid Kerry last year, so he'll be a good addition next month. Cleary will probably get more game time with MK in the championship too this year, especially with Éanna O'Connor gone. Brosnan is good, but I don't think he's county standard. Quirke wil hardly make the Mid Kerry team...I could be wrong though.
A few more players should be putting their hands up in the next couple of months.
I see that the county championship fixtures are out. It's hard to get too excited about them, after all of the good club championship games that have taken place, and with plenty more to come.
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Post by horsebox77 on Aug 23, 2024 22:22:50 GMT
I'd agree. Rob wasn't great in the 20's final. I've also seen him twice this year with North Kerry 21's and twice with Emmets. He didn't look like a senior prospect in any of these matches. Eoin Clifford from Laune Rangers and Liam Smith from Glenbeigh/Glencar are good prospects. We'll learn more about them this weekend Darragh lyne is a certainty to go training with Kerry, also mark O'Shea has to be in there. Lyne stood up for legion this year to be fair. I'm intrigued by eoin Clifford, looks very composed but I wonder about his marking if asked to mark as he usually is a sitting centre back but I'd like to see more. Liam smith looks like a different animal from last year, after losing weight and looks fit. Also Tommy quirk and jack brosnan. I'd like to see daire cleary more with mid Kerry. Darragh o Connor and Tommy Cronin both look good too for Kenmare. Both Lynn and Mark O'Shea have also impressed me, in particular Mark Shea. We are still lacking in midfield on my opinion... Barry Dan has his attributes but also his failings.. for me a lot will depend on club final when the two are pitted direct.. then we will see a like for like contest |
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Post by mainevalley on Aug 23, 2024 22:34:48 GMT
Darragh lyne is a certainty to go training with Kerry, also mark O'Shea has to be in there. Lyne stood up for legion this year to be fair. I'm intrigued by eoin Clifford, looks very composed but I wonder about his marking if asked to mark as he usually is a sitting centre back but I'd like to see more. Liam smith looks like a different animal from last year, after losing weight and looks fit. Also Tommy quirk and jack brosnan. I'd like to see daire cleary more with mid Kerry. Darragh o Connor and Tommy Cronin both look good too for Kenmare.[/quote] Wing back is Clifford's best position. He's a very good ball player, who'll always look to move it forward. Great vision and a great kick passer, as seen from the pass to Gearóid Hassett for his goal last weekend. Eoin is well able to do a marking job too. He didn't play with Mid Kerry last year, so he'll be a good addition next month. Cleary will probably get more game time with MK in the championship too this year, especially with Éanna O'Connor gone. Brosnan is good, but I don't think he's county standard. Quirke wil hardly make the Mid Kerry team...I could be wrong though. A few more players should be putting their hands up in the next couple of months. I see that the county championship fixtures are out. It's hard to get too excited about them, after all of the good club championship games that have taken place, and with plenty more to come. [/quote] Interesting about eoin Clifford. Hes a throwback to half backs of old! Other players to impress me were darragh Fleming of legion and jamie moynihan of glenflesk, surely both will be with u20s next year. I actually think jamie moynihan could go along way in the game yet. A lovely footballer. |
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Post by homerj on Aug 24, 2024 9:28:40 GMT
I was disappointed with him in the U20 final - thought he was seriously lacking the pace required at inter county level - no slight but similar to Barry Dan imo. Darragh Lyne a much better prospect. I'd agree. Rob wasn't great in the 20's final. I've also seen him twice this year with North Kerry 21's and twice with Emmets. He didn't look like a senior prospect in any of these matches Hard for Robert to stand out in those two Emmets games considering he plays for Beale 😀 |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Aug 24, 2024 9:54:52 GMT
How many of these lads will we actually see in 2025.
Being inside with Kerry is one thing but you'd like to see a few fresh faces in the league.
The lads on thr Kerry pod reckon Mark OShea of crokes should be in there and would give us an extra option in midfield.
Is Jack Savage home for good as I liked what he brought Kerry in 2022.
Is Jack Barry home yet as it was clear we missed him last year.
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 24, 2024 11:39:05 GMT
How many of these lads will we actually see in 2025. Being inside with Kerry is one thing but you'd like to see a few fresh faces in the league. The lads on thr Kerry pod reckon Mark OShea of crokes should be in there and would give us an extra option in midfield. Is Jack Savage home for good as I liked what he brought Kerry in 2022. Is Jack Barry home yet as it was clear we missed him last year. Jack Savage is home again, Jack Barry still in Oz - my info on Jack B is that he has no desire at present to return to inter county action. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Aug 24, 2024 13:01:05 GMT
How many of these lads will we actually see in 2025. Being inside with Kerry is one thing but you'd like to see a few fresh faces in the league. The lads on thr Kerry pod reckon Mark OShea of crokes should be in there and would give us an extra option in midfield. Is Jack Savage home for good as I liked what he brought Kerry in 2022. Is Jack Barry home yet as it was clear we missed him last year. Jack Savage is home again, Jack Barry still in Oz - my info on Jack B is that he has no desire at present to return to inter county action. Thanks a million for update, Jack might have seen there's life outside the bubble! |
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Post by kerrylad38 on Aug 24, 2024 22:49:10 GMT
Rumours that pa McCarthy (currow) and James costelloe (st pats blennerville) (2019-2022 Minor Management) Have Gone In As Selectors With Jack O Connor. Pa McCarthy Knows His Stuff Bringing St Pats School Team Of 200 Students From Munster “C” Level To Competing Against Huge Schools In The Corn Ui Mhuirí. He Even Recorded Huge Victories Against CBS The Green In The Russell Cup Final And This Year Vs The Sem In The Frewen Cup. Has Anyone Else Heard Anything About This
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Post by mg72 on Aug 24, 2024 23:18:26 GMT
I'd agree. Rob wasn't great in the 20's final. I've also seen him twice this year with North Kerry 21's and twice with Emmets. He didn't look like a senior prospect in any of these matches Hard for Robert to stand out in those two Emmets games considering he plays for Beale 😀 That's very true Homerj.....I got him mixed up with Grimes in my head!!! |
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Post by mainevalley on Aug 25, 2024 8:22:29 GMT
Rumours that pa McCarthy (currow) and James costelloe (st pats blennerville) (2019-2022 Minor Management) Have Gone In As Selectors With Jack O Connor. Pa McCarthy Knows His Stuff Bringing St Pats School Team Of 200 Students From Munster “C” Level To Competing Against Huge Schools In The Corn Ui Mhuirí. He Even Recorded Huge Victories Against CBS The Green In The Russell Cup Final And This Year Vs The Sem In The Frewen Cup. Has Anyone Else Heard Anything About This That's hilarious if true |
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 25, 2024 11:22:23 GMT
Rumours that pa McCarthy (currow) and James costelloe (st pats blennerville) (2019-2022 Minor Management) Have Gone In As Selectors With Jack O Connor. Pa McCarthy Knows His Stuff Bringing St Pats School Team Of 200 Students From Munster “C” Level To Competing Against Huge Schools In The Corn Ui Mhuirí. He Even Recorded Huge Victories Against CBS The Green In The Russell Cup Final And This Year Vs The Sem In The Frewen Cup. Has Anyone Else Heard Anything About This I heard the same rumour yesterday from a good source. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Aug 25, 2024 19:25:24 GMT
Rumours that pa McCarthy (currow) and James costelloe (st pats blennerville) (2019-2022 Minor Management) Have Gone In As Selectors With Jack O Connor. Pa McCarthy Knows His Stuff Bringing St Pats School Team Of 200 Students From Munster “C” Level To Competing Against Huge Schools In The Corn Ui Mhuirí. He Even Recorded Huge Victories Against CBS The Green In The Russell Cup Final And This Year Vs The Sem In The Frewen Cup. Has Anyone Else Heard Anything About This I heard the same rumour yesterday from a good source. Strange if true... |
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Post by gaaforlife on Aug 25, 2024 21:05:02 GMT
I heard the same rumour yesterday from a good source. Strange if true... What maybe strange but could be good thing not heard of much intercounty but great knowledge and experience had change up somewhat surely they won't be just anybody s must have some good knowledge. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Aug 25, 2024 21:54:14 GMT
What maybe strange but could be good thing not heard of much intercounty but great knowledge and experience had change up somewhat surely they won't be just anybody s must have some good knowledge. Not knocking either and one in particular I know is very learned and knowledgeable, if it is indeed true, there will be many watching the divisional side to gauge how astute and adaptable we are mid game.. Interesting.. |
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Post by kerry4sam88 on Aug 25, 2024 22:19:47 GMT
Must say these club championships really have been a breath of fresh air with the majority of teams throwing off the shackles and allowing their players to showcase their hidden talents and up to this point these are the names that have impressed this observer when seen in the flesh who may be putting their hand up for inclusion in next years panel: (Based on Senior and Intermediate championship and seen at least twice play)
Goalkeeper: Shane O' Sullivan (Fossa)
Defenders: Daragh O' Connor (Kenmare)
Evan Looney (Dr. Crokes)
Jack Brosnan (Glenbeigh)
Eoin Clifford (Rangers)
Kieran O Sullivan (Fossa)
Jamie Moynihan (Glenflesk)
Tommy Cronin (Kenmare)
Midfielders: Mark O' Shea (Dr.Crokes)
Liam Smith (Glenbeigh)
Tom Wittleton (Rangers)
Daragh Lyne (Legion)
Cathal Ryan (Rathmore)
Forwards: Conor Geaney (Dingle)
Eoghan Hassett (Rangers)
Tomás Kennedy (Rahillys)
Fiachra Clifford (Rangers)
Georóid Hassett (Rangers)
These have stood out to me as being very impressive and hopefully with county championship to come a few more gems might unearth themselves.
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 26, 2024 10:02:29 GMT
I understand that James Costello has indeed joined the Kerry senior back room team as a coach /selector with the departures of Mike Quirke & Diarmuid Murphy - Tally still involved but could be on the move to his native Tyrone or Monaghan. Pa McCarthy not in the mix.
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Post by kerryexile on Aug 26, 2024 12:28:53 GMT
I didn't know that Diarmuid had left as well.
It's becoming farcical. A new trivia question emerges. When was the last time the Kerry manager or selectors did not include a single All-Ireland medal holder?
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Post by softallireland on Aug 26, 2024 13:00:22 GMT
I didn't know that Diarmuid had left as well. It's becoming farcical. A new trivia question emerges. When was the last time the Kerry manager or selectors did not include a single All-Ireland medal holder? I don't know, but as we know by now having medals matters little in the heat of battle. It can in fact get in the way of making a good decision. We wanted change so let's see. Costello has been in with Clare and was unlucky not to win an All-Ireland with the minors. His minor team were pretty attacking and went for goals often so hopefully our style will evolve from this. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Aug 26, 2024 14:07:40 GMT
I am a little dismayed at the negativity towards our management.
There is a perception outside of Kerry that we have an inflated opinion of ourselves and how we play the game.
Reading hear at times that might not be to far wrong.
No management in the world would have prevented our keeper gifting Armagh a goal or our attack missing open goals.
Just like 2023.
Players and players only are responsible for that.
Kerry can only play the game that is infront of them and unfortunately our game is in a bad place at the moment.
I do chuckle that head of the committee who is putting forward these rule changes it was his team that introduced the keep ball tactic to kill any momentum in a game.
Kerry are not far away at all.
What do we want for 2025.
- Return to form of DC.
- Move Seanie back to 11
- Sort Midfield
- Introduce far more pace to our team.
- Experiential team for the majority of the league.
That's my view anyway.
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 26, 2024 15:28:43 GMT
I am a little dismayed at the negativity towards our management. There is a perception outside of Kerry that we have an inflated opinion of ourselves and how we play the game. Reading hear at times that might not be to far wrong. No management in the world would have prevented our keeper gifting Armagh a goal or our attack missing open goals. Just like 2023. Players and players only are responsible for that. Kerry can only play the game that is infront of them and unfortunately our game is in a bad place at the moment. I do chuckle that head of the committee who is putting forward these rule changes it was his team that introduced the keep ball tactic to kill any momentum in a game. Kerry are not far away at all. What do we want for 2025. - Return to form of DC. - Move Seanie back to 11 - Sort Midfield - Introduce far more pace to our team. - Experiential team for the majority of the league. That's my view anyway. Maybe we have an inflated opinion of ourselves but I think we have regressed as a team since winning in ‘22 - my take is that we should be a 3 in a row winning team by now! This is based on the talent we have but hindered by a management team that has instilled a fear of losing in a team rather than kicking on. The negatives I see are: - Failure to refresh the panel - we persisted with almost the same panel for last 3 years - came back to bite us when we lost to Dublin last year - we ended up with Mike Breen @ midfield, Adrian Spillane on one wing, Micheál Burns on the other in the final 10 mins; I have seen Breen play both for club & district, always centre back - a midfielder he is not - Cillian Burke, Dylan Geaney, Seán O’Brien & Conor Geaney were projects to work on in the league - think Cillian was injured for some of it - we failed to integrate them, get them up to speed @ inter county level. Our midfield in ET vs Armagh was Seán O’Brien & Barry Dan - don’t think either played 70 mins in the league - The slow, turgid build up from defence to attack - the Derry game was a testament to this; we turned them over in defence 5/6 times in the first half alone - we failed to punish them by showing no urgency in getting the ball forward quickly to our sharpshooters - The failure to get David Clifford into games - we persisted on having him close to goal, yes he is very effective there but when it wasn’t working we changed nothing. - The failure vs Armagh to go after the game & finish them off - 1-11 to 0-10 was the third time we were 4 clear ; what did we do after the goal by Paul Murphy? Nothing, retreated, gave up the kick out - no plan B to kill off the game. I have lost confidence in JO’C to turn this around. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Aug 26, 2024 15:45:10 GMT
I am a little dismayed at the negativity towards our management. There is a perception outside of Kerry that we have an inflated opinion of ourselves and how we play the game. Reading hear at times that might not be to far wrong. No management in the world would have prevented our keeper gifting Armagh a goal or our attack missing open goals. Just like 2023. Players and players only are responsible for that. Kerry can only play the game that is infront of them and unfortunately our game is in a bad place at the moment. I do chuckle that head of the committee who is putting forward these rule changes it was his team that introduced the keep ball tactic to kill any momentum in a game. Kerry are not far away at all. What do we want for 2025. - Return to form of DC. - Move Seanie back to 11 - Sort Midfield - Introduce far more pace to our team. - Experiential team for the majority of the league. That's my view anyway. Maybe we have an inflated opinion of ourselves but I think we have regressed as a team since winning in ‘22 - my take is that we should be a 3 in a row winning team by now! This is based on the talent we have but hindered by a management team that has instilled a fear of losing in a team rather than kicking on. The negatives I see are: - Failure to refresh the panel - we persisted with almost the same panel for last 3 years - came back to bite us when we lost to Dublin last year - we ended up with Mike Breen @ midfield, Adrian Spillane on one wing, Micheál Burns on the other in the final 10 mins; I have seen Breen play both for club & district, always centre back - a midfielder he is not - Cillian Burke, Dylan Geaney, Seán O’Brien & Conor Geaney were projects to work on in the league - think Cillian was injured for some of it - we failed to integrate them, get them up to speed @ inter county level. Our midfield in ET vs Armagh was Seán O’Brien & Barry Dan - don’t think either played 70 mins in the league - The slow, turgid build up from defence to attack - the Derry game was a testament to this; we turned them over in defence 5/6 times in the first half alone - we failed to punish them by showing no urgency in getting the ball forward quickly to our sharpshooters - The failure to get David Clifford into games - we persisted on having him close to goal, yes he is very effective there but when it wasn’t working we changed nothing. - The failure vs Armagh to go after the game & finish them off - 1-11 to 0-10 was the third time we were 4 clear ; what did we do after the goal by Paul Murphy? Nothing, retreated, gave up the kick out - no plan B to kill off the game. I have lost confidence in JO’C to turn this around. To be fair that's a very good post and points well made. I think we have regressed aswell and maybe I'm too generous to our management. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Aug 26, 2024 16:55:59 GMT
A lot of the above could be copied and pasted from a project 2024 thread - abd still be relative and accurate
Therefore, for me, nothing has changed and key issues that stifled us, still remain twelve months later .. that for me points to failure of sorts.
I will say one thing though, I cannot mention a club player over the last 18 months that we can say is being overlooked.. in this regard the best of the county would appear to be inside. The best example of this is prob Paul Geaney .. a man that some feel should hang up the boots .. apart from DC .. Mr Geaney has been the best club forward since the start of the club season
Maybe a fresh approach and pair of eyes and ideas may unlock the talent .. as something has to change
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 26, 2024 17:18:26 GMT
A lot of the above could be copied and pasted from a project 2024 thread - abd still be relative and accurate Therefore, for me, nothing has changed and key issues that stifled us, still remain twelve months later .. that for me points to failure of sorts. I will say one thing though, I cannot mention a club player over the last 18 months that we can say is being overlooked.. in this regard the best of the county would appear to be inside. The best example of this is prob Paul Geaney .. a man that some feel should hang up the boots .. apart from DC .. Mr Geaney has been the best club forward since the start of the club season Maybe a fresh approach and pair of eyes and ideas may unlock the talent .. as something has to change While I agree the best of the club players seem to be inside, as you put it, but they are not being blooded - the two who I have questions on are Cillian Burke & Dylan Geaney - a bit more league time might have seen them starting; there’s a question on Killian Spillane too - played very well in the final league game in Killarney vs Galway, rarely seen thereafter - do I believe that Tony Brosnan & Dara Moynihan are our best wing forwards? It’s an emphatic no. “ Something has to change” - couldn’t agree more!! |
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Post by Ballydonoghoor on Aug 26, 2024 18:16:26 GMT
Sickens me, even Pats is saying everything but saying nothing in the Sunday World, I'll try to add it after the cows this evening as it is an otherwise rather interesting bit of gossip. He feels Tally was the man behind Mickey so what was he doing behind our JackO you'd have to ask. BTW should I be paid for recommending this? Every other hoor is so why not a Ballydonohoor? Sure I'm as bad a hoor as you could imagine, or so they tell me and what's bad about a hoor is good, a pure hoor I am, so what am I waiting for - well what's mine actually! I have done the cows 3 times now so here it is and it's a bit better than I originally thought, and that has nothing to do with me getting paid more to say that, nothing at all, I am doing it for the good of my health, you have no idea how good it is for your health to sit on your backside in front of a PC as a paid up member of the Kerry Keyboard Warriors Brigade, doing a favour mar dhea, mar yeah, for your fellow Animal Kingdom hoors. Next thing is I'll be asked to resign, just as well I'm not sat pool side in a hotter clime! Bonkers | Pat Spillane: My verdict on Offaly’s shock move to hire Mickey HarteAnd for anyone living in the old enemy territory, that is the wan across the Irish Sea as opposed to Rebel County, 'Bonker' has an entirely different meaning in a place you used to call your back garden - funny but are you now our front garden since you led us up your garden path! 'Bonker' in England means, well as John B might say 'a laddo who chases after anything in a skirt'; from Templenoe to Templemore it means 'plain starkers ravin' mad!' Enjoy my recommendation folks - it cost a lot to recommend it to you! |
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Post by kerryexile on Aug 26, 2024 18:16:56 GMT
I am a little dismayed at the negativity towards our management. Maybe we have an inflated opinion of ourselves but I think we have regressed as a team since winning in ‘22 - my take is that we should be a 3 in a row winning team by now!This is based on the talent we have but hindered by a management team that has instilled a fear of losing in a team rather than kicking on. The negatives I see are: - Failure to refresh the panel - we persisted with almost the same panel for last 3 years - came back to bite us when we lost to Dublin last year - we ended up with Mike Breen @ midfield, Adrian Spillane on one wing, Micheál Burns on the other in the final 10 mins; I have seen Breen play both for club & district, always centre back - a midfielder he is not - Cillian Burke, Dylan Geaney, Seán O’Brien & Conor Geaney were projects to work on in the league - think Cillian was injured for some of it - we failed to integrate them, get them up to speed @ inter county level. Our midfield in ET vs Armagh was Seán O’Brien & Barry Dan - don’t think either played 70 mins in the league - The slow, turgid build up from defence to attack - the Derry game was a testament to this; we turned them over in defence 5/6 times in the first half alone - we failed to punish them by showing no urgency in getting the ball forward quickly to our sharpshooters - The failure to get David Clifford into games - we persisted on having him close to goal, yes he is very effective there but when it wasn’t working we changed nothing. - The failure vs Armagh to go after the game & finish them off - 1-11 to 0-10 was the third time we were 4 clear ; what did we do after the goal by Paul Murphy? Nothing, retreated, gave up the kick out - no plan B to kill off the game. I have lost confidence in JO’C to turn this around. Very good summary Greengold35. As strange as it may sound, Kerry's performances cannot be assessed on the incidents that are happening on the pitch. It's what's not happening on the pitch that is the problem. For example a neutral at the Armagh game could point to incidents involving David Clifford and say without fear of contradiction that David Clifford is completely over rated and is just a mediocre footballer. Should we accept that and carry on hoping that we might be luckier next year and may get the bounce of the ball?? Or should we be knowledgeable enough to recognise there is a problem, take steps to rectify it and prepare to go to Croke Park next year with 26 players ready to take over Croke Park in a way that hasn't happened for decades.?? Now David is back in Kerry and is playing as we know he can. Why???? The same applies to Paul Geaney. I didn't agree with any of the criticism of Paul during the year. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Aug 26, 2024 19:09:53 GMT
This is based on the talent we have but hindered by a management team that has instilled a fear of losing in a team rather than kicking on. The negatives I see are: - Failure to refresh the panel - we persisted with almost the same panel for last 3 years - came back to bite us when we lost to Dublin last year - we ended up with Mike Breen @ midfield, Adrian Spillane on one wing, Micheál Burns on the other in the final 10 mins; I have seen Breen play both for club & district, always centre back - a midfielder he is not - Cillian Burke, Dylan Geaney, Seán O’Brien & Conor Geaney were projects to work on in the league - think Cillian was injured for some of it - we failed to integrate them, get them up to speed @ inter county level. Our midfield in ET vs Armagh was Seán O’Brien & Barry Dan - don’t think either played 70 mins in the league - The slow, turgid build up from defence to attack - the Derry game was a testament to this; we turned them over in defence 5/6 times in the first half alone - we failed to punish them by showing no urgency in getting the ball forward quickly to our sharpshooters - The failure to get David Clifford into games - we persisted on having him close to goal, yes he is very effective there but when it wasn’t working we changed nothing. - The failure vs Armagh to go after the game & finish them off - 1-11 to 0-10 was the third time we were 4 clear ; what did we do after the goal by Paul Murphy? Nothing, retreated, gave up the kick out - no plan B to kill off the game. I have lost confidence in JO’C to turn this around. Very good summary Greengold35. As strange as it may sound, Kerry's performances cannot be assessed on the incidents that are happening on the pitch. It's what's not happening on the pitch that is the problem. For example a neutral at the Armagh game could point to incidents involving David Clifford and say without fear of contradiction that David Clifford is completely over rated and is just a mediocre footballer. Should we accept that and carry on hoping that we might be luckier next year and may get the bounce of the ball?? Or should we be knowledgeable enough to recognise there is a problem, take steps to rectify it and prepare to go to Croke Park next year with 26 players ready to take over Croke Park in a way that hasn't happened for decades.?? Now David is back in Kerry and is playing as we know he can. Why?  The same applies to Paul Geaney. I didn't agree with any of the criticism of Paul during the year. Probably as its club football which is not as tactical or putrid as intercounty. I love David as much as the next lad but you'd expect him to being doing that at intermediate level given he's the best player in Ireland. I note Dooher and Logan are gone from Tyrone. There will be a lot of change in the inter county scene next year. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Aug 26, 2024 20:27:28 GMT
Just read in the examiner that James Cos is expected to be confirmed to be on Jacks ticket.. so looks like that's just awaiting rubber stamping...
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