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Post by Ballydonoghoor on Nov 1, 2024 21:18:02 GMT
Kerry getting no All-Star is inconsequential but Cillian’s departure is utterly depressing. Maybe but it is a reality and it has cost us a good few Sams. I'd wish anyone the best and sure it affects all counties. |
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Post by mainevalley on Nov 1, 2024 23:13:27 GMT
Any news whose called in with Kerry? Heard a few names. Sean o connell and cathal Ryan called in, darragh roche dropped. Can't remember a few named to me now but wasn't surprised with too many.
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Post by mg72 on Nov 2, 2024 0:03:16 GMT
Any news whose called in with Kerry? Heard a few names. Sean o connell and cathal Ryan called in, darragh roche dropped. Can't remember a few named to me now but wasn't surprised with too many. I heard Eoin Clifford, Liam Smith and Tom Leo are training in Currans |
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Post by ciarraimick on Nov 2, 2024 1:35:19 GMT
Any news whose called in with Kerry? Heard a few names. Sean o connell and cathal Ryan called in, darragh roche dropped. Can't remember a few named to me now but wasn't surprised with too many. Well if thats true bout Roche its a disgrace.I would say Roche s scoring ratio is better than most Kerry forwards but Jacks blinkered thinking messes him up. |
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Post by mike70 on Nov 2, 2024 7:46:30 GMT
The reality is we have a fairly solid starting 12 or 13, need to see who will step up to starting 15, but 15 Will win you nothing on its own, you need to reach into 16 to 24 or you can forget about SAM.
From what I saw in the championship you could pick from 20, all around the same level.
I would get guys training between now and early Jan, run a few trials to be pick your best, some guys that play well at club can’t bring that to inter county and others the other way round.
I keep the net wide and finalise in Jan.
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Nov 2, 2024 9:08:26 GMT
Any news whose called in with Kerry? Heard a few names. Sean o connell and cathal Ryan called in, darragh roche dropped. Can't remember a few named to me now but wasn't surprised with too many. Well if thats true bout Roche its a disgrace.I would say Roche s scoring ratio is better than most Kerry forwards but Jacks blinkered thinking messes him up. Ah come on Roche is well off the standard of playing a role in the championship and is now 29. As inside forwards Donal O’Sullivan, David Shaw and Luke Crowley would all be more deserving of a place on the panel. |
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Nov 2, 2024 9:11:21 GMT
Sean O’Connell, Cathal Ryan and Liam Smith mentioned here as called in, all midfielders. That’s good that they’re exploring options for midfield where we are short.
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Post by kerryblueboy on Nov 2, 2024 10:31:04 GMT
Anyone else hear that Barry Dan has opted out as well this coming year I agree darragh Roche isn’t inter county standard but hasn’t been given much of a chance either
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Post by greengold35 on Nov 2, 2024 11:29:05 GMT
Anyone else hear that Barry Dan has opted out as well this coming year I agree darragh Roche isn’t inter county standard but hasn’t been given much of a chance either Yea, believe that’s true. |
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Post by kerryblueboy on Nov 2, 2024 11:52:23 GMT
Players no longer willing to put their lives on hold to be squad players that’s the way it’s going once upon a time lads would give up their first born to get a go with Kerry sadly the demands and frustration of modern football are pushing lads in a different direction
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 2, 2024 12:05:32 GMT
Roche certainly had chances,
I don't think he made a particular impression when he did play.
League football in winter isint great for a lad trying to make an impression but I didn't think he stood out.
Watched him in person above in Ballybofey and while he was a good strong target man some of his shooting was hit/miss.
Barry Dan is a loss if that is true as I felt he gave us a bit of bite around the middle.
With the loss of Burke and potentially Barry Dan.
We are weaker now than ever in that middle 8 and that's are major concern.
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Post by mossie on Nov 2, 2024 12:22:34 GMT
Roche certainly had chances, I don't think he made a particular impression when he did play. League football in winter isint great for a lad trying to make an impression but I didn't think he stood out. Watched him in person above in Ballybofey and while he was a good strong target man some of his shooting was hit/miss. Barry Dan is a loss if that is true as I felt he gave us a bit of bite around the middle. With the loss of Burke and potentially Barry Dan. We are weaker now than ever in that middle 8 and that's are major concern. Barry Dan has not got a fair crack of the whip come championship time peanuts game time. We have never really explored the option of using him as a target man at 14 either I suppose the fear of god of losing possession if we hit in a high ball to him ! Jack would rather have us handpassing across the pitch People forget that Barry Dan is a vet and does a lot of his work on farms with cattle. Probably the only player we have at physical work. He also likes a bit of hurling and might like to try a bit of that. I also heard travel mentioned |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 2, 2024 12:30:22 GMT
Roche certainly had chances, I don't think he made a particular impression when he did play. League football in winter isint great for a lad trying to make an impression but I didn't think he stood out. Watched him in person above in Ballybofey and while he was a good strong target man some of his shooting was hit/miss. Barry Dan is a loss if that is true as I felt he gave us a bit of bite around the middle. With the loss of Burke and potentially Barry Dan. We are weaker now than ever in that middle 8 and that's are major concern. Barry Dan has not got a fair crack of the whip come championship time peanuts game time. We have never really explored the option of using him as a target man at 14 either I suppose the fear of god of losing possession if we hit in a high ball to him ! Jack would rather have us handpassing across the pitch People forget that Barry Dan is a vet and does a lot of his work on farms with cattle. Probably the only player we have at physical work. He also likes a bit of hurling and might like to try a bit of that. I also heard travel mentioned Yes the man is a warrior half the time I saw him this year with Dingle his head was bandaged up... |
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Post by mossie on Nov 2, 2024 12:46:07 GMT
Barry Dan has not got a fair crack of the whip come championship time peanuts game time. We have never really explored the option of using him as a target man at 14 either I suppose the fear of god of losing possession if we hit in a high ball to him ! Jack would rather have us handpassing across the pitch People forget that Barry Dan is a vet and does a lot of his work on farms with cattle. Probably the only player we have at physical work. He also likes a bit of hurling and might like to try a bit of that. I also heard travel mentioned Yes the man is a warrior half the time I saw him this year with Dingle his head was bandaged up... yes a warrior the charge that is labelled against him is that he lacks a gear of pace for Croke Park I am unsure if that stands up Anyways the use him at 14 option was something never tried - he could really have caused upset for full back lines - wouldnt have been easy to devote defenders to tracking David Clifford and defending Barry Dan under a high one |
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Post by mike70 on Nov 2, 2024 13:22:51 GMT
Sorry lads, but are we a bit illusional, fellas have to start realising that the fellas who will make up 16 to 30 won’t be as good as the guys on the first 15.
Not sure what people expect, but I think we have a huge number that fit into the bench bucket and I would consider likes of roche in that bracket, see no difference between him and Shaw.
So I believe the kerry management not only need to find their best 15, but also their best 16 to 30, that’s the biggest challenge for kerry, I repeat without out that solid 16 to 30, we can forget any all ireland.
Looking at the rumours around guys leaving the panel, the challenge is even bigger than we think.
A guy playing a good match in th county championship does not mean your the man for intercounty, their poles apart.
Kerry management have a lot of work to do and it ain’t in their first 15.
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Post by mainevalley on Nov 2, 2024 13:47:07 GMT
Actually I remember now the other name I heard was the ghaeltacht midfielder cathal o beaglaigh ( not sure of second name). He played well for ghaeltacht in championship. Fine fielder too.
And o donnell from castlegregory
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Nov 2, 2024 14:19:53 GMT
Cian Lynch and Darragh Lyne are surely in as well? Anyone hear who’s going to be replacing Shane Murphy?
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Post by ciarraimick on Nov 2, 2024 14:40:54 GMT
Well if thats true bout Roche its a disgrace.I would say Roche s scoring ratio is better than most Kerry forwards but Jacks blinkered thinking messes him up. Ah come on Roche is well off the standard of playing a role in the championship and is now 29. As inside forwards Donal O’Sullivan, David Shaw and Luke Crowley would all be more deserving of a place on the panel. [brRoche has scored in every full game he played for Kerry.He was injured v Tyrone in 23 and subbed but in that campaign he scored well including 3 points v Donegal and 1-2 v Monaghan.The facts are he did nt get much of a chance. |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Nov 2, 2024 15:19:36 GMT
Ah come on Roche is well off the standard of playing a role in the championship and is now 29. As inside forwards Donal O’Sullivan, David Shaw and Luke Crowley would all be more deserving of a place on the panel. [brRoche has scored in every full game he played for Kerry.He was injured v Tyrone in 23 and subbed but in that campaign he scored well including 3 points v Donegal and 1-2 v Monaghan.The facts are he did nt get much of a chance. You called it a disgrace which given the time you were posting at suggests you were not sober. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 2, 2024 15:21:11 GMT
I think anyone considering leaving the panel should first wait to see if the new rules are past.
This will radically change the game and we see all the subs being used as the game speeds up.
I wouldn't walk away until I knew how next year will pan out.
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Post by likeitornot on Nov 2, 2024 20:54:49 GMT
Ah come on Roche is well off the standard of playing a role in the championship and is now 29. As inside forwards Donal O’Sullivan, David Shaw and Luke Crowley would all be more deserving of a place on the panel. [brRoche has scored in every full game he played for Kerry.He was injured v Tyrone in 23 and subbed but in that campaign he scored well including 3 points v Donegal and 1-2 v Monaghan.The facts are he did nt get much of a chance. Hard to know with Darragh.. I was a fan of his but I don't know if he is upto this level.. again if he got an extended run of games might change our thinking.. same with Barry Dan |
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Post by ciarraimick on Nov 2, 2024 22:24:56 GMT
[brRoche has scored in every full game he played for Kerry.He was injured v Tyrone in 23 and subbed but in that campaign he scored well including 3 points v Donegal and 1-2 v Monaghan.The facts are he did nt get much of a chance. You called it a disgrace which given the time you were posting at suggests you were not sober. Oh right.Now you know if I was drinking!Maybe I was working a night shift?Maybe I dont drink? I do think its a disgrace that a player who has done well is discarded without given a proper chance.Now a few more for the road.oh no rush sure tis 12.30am closing tonight. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Nov 2, 2024 22:54:55 GMT
Yes the man is a warrior half the time I saw him this year with Dingle his head was bandaged up... yes a warrior the charge that is labelled against him is that he lacks a gear of pace for Croke Park I am unsure if that stands up Anyways the use him at 14 option was something never tried - he could really have caused upset for full back lines - wouldnt have been easy to devote defenders to tracking David Clifford and defending Barry Dan under a high one Yes we never got a chance to see if thats true.BarryDan has been our best midfielder in the league over the last couple of years and then brushed away for championship. |
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 2, 2024 22:54:56 GMT
Anyone else hear that Barry Dan has opted out as well this coming year I agree darragh Roche isn’t inter county standard but hasn’t been given much of a chance either Not surprised. Another lad in his late 20s who isn't going to hang around to get 10/15 minutes here or there. |
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Post by riddler on Nov 4, 2024 12:58:28 GMT
Shane Murphy has not left the panel.
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Post by The16thMan on Nov 5, 2024 18:15:15 GMT
According to Tony Leen, provisional National League fixtures include:
Opening game at home to Donegal in Killarney. Probably the opening Sunday with a 1pm throw in if past experiences are anything to go buy.
Other 2 home games are Armagh & Dublin in Tralee under lights.
That would leave Galway, Mayo, Tyrone & Derry away, I imagine 1 or 2 under lights. Mayo usually a Saturday night game and possibly Galway now they have lights in Pearse Stadium.
No dates for games released yet.
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Post by jackiel on Nov 5, 2024 22:36:59 GMT
I got it from an Armagh man last night that we've them at 5pm on 15th March in Tralee. I got burned last year with the wrong dates so holding fire for now.
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