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Post by gaaforlife on Oct 31, 2024 12:04:05 GMT
When the one bright spot from this whole year is robbed you begin to wonder as a supporter if you should put yourself through another season of probable bitter disappointment in 2025  Should be basking in the glow of a 3-in-a-row this winter, instead with each passing day you wonder if 2022 was another once in a decade apparition. The past 5 years have been mostly a bitter catalogue of misfortune  Kerry will still be in pick 25 and rules come in and play with bit more attack may suit kerry more granted should be going for 4 in a row for few bad mistakes on field and on the line. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 31, 2024 12:42:41 GMT
Why do people say stuff like Kerry should be going for four in a row?
Or, if player X was around we would have won this All Ireland and that All Ireland.
I think we're in denial about our quality.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Oct 31, 2024 12:44:14 GMT
I don’t know why people say we should be going for four in a row next year and not seven in a row.
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Post by mainevalley on Oct 31, 2024 13:32:28 GMT
Conflicting information as Mortimer Murphy who said this morning he was going, them said he wasn't has just tweeted to say he is infact going. Official comment needed now. He's going alright, end of story. I knew it was coming, we just didn't want to believe it. |
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Post by thehermit on Oct 31, 2024 13:49:36 GMT
Why do people say stuff like Kerry should be going for four in a row? Or, if player X was around we would have won this All Ireland and that All Ireland. I think we're in denial about our quality. Fecked it away this year when in control against Armagh, don't tell me that Galway performance would have beaten us. Fecked it away last year in the final when it was there to be won too. Two titles left behind on the table because of bad luck, bad attitude, bad gameplan. That's not even bringing up 2019, 2020 or 2021 - somedays when you start thinking about all this stuff you wish you'd have stayed in bed with the covers over you! |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 31, 2024 14:06:58 GMT
He's going alright, end of story. I knew it was coming, we just didn't want to believe it. Bitterly disappointing. It's very hard to take this continuous cherry picking of Kerrys best players. It would be disingenuous for me to wish him well because I don't support any Kerry player picking AFL over Kerry. What I don't want to read is how he still wants to play for Kerry some day. |
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Post by listowelemerrs on Oct 31, 2024 15:11:15 GMT
Does anyone here have business mind?
I’m wondering could anyone answer, is it possible for the GAA to grow into a gargantuan organisation like the AFL financially?
Is it possible? If not , why not?
How does the afl manage to pay their players and have such a huge financial side to their game?
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Post by listowelemerrs on Oct 31, 2024 15:20:41 GMT
That’s Gavin o brien and now Cillian Burke similar profiles gone.
We really need a tall, mobile wing forward who can get scores , someone in the mould of a Donnacha walsh.
Ideally play Diarmaid o connor there but I don’t know do we have 2 competent midfielders.
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Post by onlykerry on Oct 31, 2024 15:38:36 GMT
Does anyone here have business mind? I’m wondering could anyone answer, is it possible for the GAA to grow into a gargantuan organisation like the AFL financially? Is it possible? If not , why not? How does the afl manage to pay their players and have such a huge financial side to their game? Good question - I suspect its a combination of factors with population being a major one. AFL has 18 professional teams in a country of 26 millions people - average attendance at games this year is given as 37,455 people plus a huge TV audience generating big revenues to teams also. English soccer average attendance is also in the range of 35,000. The average attendance at GAA matches is far lower - found it difficult to find an overall average number but Munster football championship is less than 8,000 I think. |
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Post by dano on Oct 31, 2024 16:21:43 GMT
The truth of it is that, while it used be the case, football is not a religion any more in Kerry. Granted there are diehards like most of the posters on here and the great patrons who'll be on the supporters' bus for all the away league and championship games. Anyone at the Armagh Semi this year could see the lack of support Kerry had.
To us diehards the chance to put on the green and gold should be the proverbial " be all and end all" , but the diehards are few and far between. Thank God the panel we will have decided to stay in Kerry. I'm sure many of them were approached by the Australians. They deserve our great support and although we are small and often, if not always outnumbered, they have as good a chance as any of the top teams in 25.
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Post by kerryexile on Oct 31, 2024 16:29:11 GMT
Why do people say stuff like Kerry should be going for four in a row? Or, if player X was around we would have won this All Ireland and that All Ireland. I think we're in denial about our quality. Your first line and your second line are based on 2 opposite premises. It's reasonable to assume that line 2 is based on circumstances outside of anyone's control. It is based on wishful thinking , if X wasn't injured or Y wasn't 38 and retired..... Johnny would love to be a doctor but was not good at science. In the first line everything is available but wrong preparation, wrong attitude etc leads to failure. As Hermit said they were left on the table. In this case Johnny would love to be a doctor, was great at science but spent his time in the pub. This is the one that hurts. |
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Oct 31, 2024 17:24:40 GMT
That’s Gavin o brien and now Cillian Burke similar profiles gone. We really need a tall, mobile wing forward who can get scores , someone in the mould of a Donnacha walsh. Ideally play Diarmaid o connor there but I don’t know do we have 2 competent midfielders. Gavin O’Brien wouldn’t be starting for Kerry even if he was around to be fair he didn’t have the stamina, but I agree with your point that we’re lacking that wing forward. Tomás Kennedy is our hope there I think, Daniel Kirby also has potential but isn’t as far in his development as Kennedy. Thing is both are on the Aussie’s radar just like Burke and Rob Monahan! |
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Post by ciarraimick on Oct 31, 2024 21:26:27 GMT
Why do people say stuff like Kerry should be going for four in a row? Or, if player X was around we would have won this All Ireland and that All Ireland. I think we're in denial about our quality. Some think Kerry should win every year.When we dont its cos of refs mistakes or management or just bad luck.When we win we deserve it and the opposition have no bad luck. Galway should feel unlucky not to win 2 All Irelands in last 3 years but cest la vie. I agree with you Most of the time we get what we deserve.Maybe this team are nt as good as we think or maybe our management team are nt either. We did not deserve to win All Ireland this year and probably not 23 either as we were to cautious. |
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Post by likeitornot on Oct 31, 2024 21:32:33 GMT
I knew it was coming, we just didn't want to believe it. Bitterly disappointing. It's very hard to take this continuous cherry picking of Kerrys best players. It would be disingenuous for me to wish him well because I don't support any Kerry player picking AFL over Kerry. What I don't want to read is how he still wants to play for Kerry some day. the reality is that we are better off without Cillian because he wouldnt be much good to us if in his head hes thinking about Oz and playing AFL.. so we are better off that he is gone... he wont be the loss we think he will be as obviously he wasnt too bothered about representing Kerry and wasnt going to have the attitude of someone like Paul Galvin to whom being a Kerry footballer and a successful one was the be all and end all... cillian didnt have that for Kerry so we march on... and this conversation he was supposed to have had with Jack o'connor if it did happen is only rubbish... Cillian doesnt play for Jack.. he plays for Kerry... would Jack have had to ring any of the lads that played with Kerry in the noughties encouraging them to stick around.. not a chance... those lads would have been ringing Jack to find out from him when and where would training be on.. those boys wanted to play for Kerry.. Cillian dont.. End of Story |
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Post by ciarraimick on Oct 31, 2024 21:32:34 GMT
That’s Gavin o brien and now Cillian Burke similar profiles gone. We really need a tall, mobile wing forward who can get scores , someone in the mould of a Donnacha walsh. Ideally play Diarmaid o connor there but I don’t know do we have 2 competent midfielders. Donnacha Walsh was a great servant for Kerry and a fine footballer.However his one weakeness was he did nt score enough as a forward. I agree about Diarmuid in half forward line if we could get a good solid partner for Joe O Connor. |
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Post by likeitornot on Oct 31, 2024 21:35:22 GMT
Why do people say stuff like Kerry should be going for four in a row? Or, if player X was around we would have won this All Ireland and that All Ireland. I think we're in denial about our quality. Some think Kerry should win every year.When we dont its cos of refs mistakes or management or just bad luck.When we win we deserve it and the opposition have no bad luck. Galway should feel unlucky not to win 2 All Irelands in last 3 years but cest la vie. I agree with you Most of the time we get what we deserve.Maybe this team are nt as good as we think or maybe our management team are nt either. We did not deserve to win All Ireland this year and probably not 23 either as we were to cautious. its really annoying to watch gavin white tear up the field at every opportunity with Crokes.. and then with Kerry hes turning around and passinng the ball backwards |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 31, 2024 22:25:23 GMT
Bitterly disappointing. It's very hard to take this continuous cherry picking of Kerrys best players. It would be disingenuous for me to wish him well because I don't support any Kerry player picking AFL over Kerry. What I don't want to read is how he still wants to play for Kerry some day. the reality is that we are better off without Cillian because he wouldnt be much good to us if in his head hes thinking about Oz and playing AFL.. so we are better off that he is gone... he wont be the loss we think he will be as obviously he wasnt too bothered about representing Kerry and wasnt going to have the attitude of someone like Paul Galvin to whom being a Kerry footballer and a successful one was the be all and end all... cillian didnt have that for Kerry so we march on... and this conversation he was supposed to have had with Jack o'connor if it did happen is only rubbish... Cillian doesnt play for Jack.. he plays for Kerry... would Jack have had to ring any of the lads that played with Kerry in the noughties encouraging them to stick around.. not a chance... those lads would have been ringing Jack to find out from him when and where would training be on.. those boys wanted to play for Kerry.. Cillian dont.. End of Story Spot on. Dollars doesn't bring pride in a game that means nothing to you. As David Clifford said he never grew up dreaming of playing AFL. |
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Post by ciarraimick on Oct 31, 2024 23:45:16 GMT
Some think Kerry should win every year.When we dont its cos of refs mistakes or management or just bad luck.When we win we deserve it and the opposition have no bad luck. Galway should feel unlucky not to win 2 All Irelands in last 3 years but cest la vie. I agree with you Most of the time we get what we deserve.Maybe this team are nt as good as we think or maybe our management team are nt either. We did not deserve to win All Ireland this year and probably not 23 either as we were to cautious. its really annoying to watch gavin white tear up the field at every opportunity with Crokes.. and then with Kerry hes turning around and passinng the ball backwards So true and it was him going backwards that cost us the goal v Dubs in 23 final.Hopefully next year we change. |
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Post by thehermit on Nov 1, 2024 1:22:40 GMT
The truth of it is that, while it used be the case, football is not a religion any more in Kerry. Granted there are diehards like most of the posters on here and the great patrons who'll be on the supporters' bus for all the away league and championship games. Anyone at the Armagh Semi this year could see the lack of support Kerry had. To us diehards the chance to put on the green and gold should be the proverbial " be all and end all" , but the diehards are few and far between. Thank God the panel we will have decided to stay in Kerry. I'm sure many of them were approached by the Australians. They deserve our great support and although we are small and often, if not always outnumbered, they have as good a chance as any of the top teams in 25. Its my religion  (well like within reason (kinda) for a Kerry animal) Ah sure could be worse, could have me head stuck up the Dubs Totem pole ... when they win its ALWAYS CAUSE THEY DESERVE IT  |
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Post by Premier on Nov 1, 2024 9:15:47 GMT
After a full season of county and club championships, is this where we think our best team would be if we had to play an All-Ireland final:
Ryan
Graham
Foley
Tom
Briain
Morley
White
DOC
JOC
Paudie
SOS
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D.Geaney
Clifford
Brosnan
Brosnan could also play on the wing like he did last year and put K. Spillane inside especially if these new rules come in.
What are we looking at bench wise?
Murphy/Coffey
P. Murphy
Casey
Heinrich
P. Geaney
Luke Crowley?
Cian lynch?
Struggling a bit with the bench
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Post by dc84 on Nov 1, 2024 9:23:47 GMT
It's unfortunate that Burke decided he would go to Oz he looked decent last year.
We move on with the lads that are committed to kerry now.
With the three up it will be interesting how we play it david will be one obviously will paul geaney be another do we leave paudi up ? Sean o shea ? The half forward options are fairly thin now so you would imagine o shea will be at 11 hard to pick the other 2..
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Post by kerryblueboy on Nov 1, 2024 9:34:29 GMT
After a full season of county and club championships, is this where we think our best team would be if we had to play an All-Ireland final: Ryan Graham Foley Tom Briain Morley White DOC JOC Paudie SOS ? D.Geaney Clifford Brosnan Brosnan could also play on the wing like he did last year and put K. Spillane inside especially if these new rules come in. What are we looking at bench wise? Murphy/Coffey P. Murphy Casey Heinrich P. Geaney Luke Crowley? Cian lynch? Struggling a bit with the bench isnt it thoroughly depressing that after 2/3 years of jack in charge we are basically playing the same 12/13 players finding no one outside of Burke now gone and Dylan really worrying that the best players in the county championship this year were over 30 years old |
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Post by brucewayne on Nov 1, 2024 11:22:51 GMT
It's unfortunate that Burke decided he would go to Oz he looked decent last year. We move on with the lads that are committed to kerry now. With the three up it will be interesting how we play it david will be one obviously will paul geaney be another do we leave paudi up ? Sean o shea ? The half forward options are fairly thin now so you would imagine o shea will be at 11 hard to pick the other 2.. It is interesting to speculate as to how we will set up under the new rules. It seemed that the 11 that stayed back were absolutely gassed by the end of the trial matches so it might be wise to rotate who stays up from one passage of play to the next. |
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Post by ciarrai3 on Nov 1, 2024 11:45:53 GMT
Any news on Jack Barry returning to the squad for 2025?,really missed that physicality in Croke park this year.
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Post by Ballydonoghoor on Nov 1, 2024 13:05:17 GMT
Does anyone here have business mind? I’m wondering could anyone answer, is it possible for the GAA to grow into a gargantuan organisation like the AFL financially? Is it possible? If not , why not? How does the afl manage to pay their players and have such a huge financial side to their game? This is the root of a lot of what is going on behind the scenes and it will become even more significant in light of for example, the current generation of say 20/30 year olds will be the first to be less well off than their parents' generation. Two income families is now the norm and which adds extra pressure - a working mother has to do the kids by herself as yer man has to give 40 hours a week to football - pressure on marriage, etc. It is easier on some, maybe with grandparents, etc. I often quote research done that concluded that there is an inverse relationship between money and talent and anyone who doesn't believe that, well look at what GAA players give, look at Ryder Cup performances - no money there, playing for pride of place! Jarlath 'sean' Burns has commissioned a study here and if he can use that to convince the powers that be, then that may be part of the solution here though it ain't as simple as that. I had an interesting encounter lately with an individual who paid €40,000 for a horse for his girl and boy - he was an easy to talk to type and as I engaged he said that 'whoever my child is with on Sat and Sun when I am around is who they will hang out with Mon-Fri when I am not with them. Of course not everybody has access to that kind of money but you get the drift! Parents in Dublin do similar with the GAA, keep children away from mischief and while that ain't so easy today, if anything can do it, sports can and GAA is so so special, so powerful here. |
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Post by Ballydonoghoor on Nov 1, 2024 13:13:27 GMT
The truth of it is that, while it used be the case, football is not a religion any more in Kerry. Granted there are diehards like most of the posters on here and the great patrons who'll be on the supporters' bus for all the away league and championship games. Anyone at the Armagh Semi this year could see the lack of support Kerry had. To us diehards the chance to put on the green and gold should be the proverbial " be all and end all" , but the diehards are few and far between. Thank God the panel we will have decided to stay in Kerry. I'm sure many of them were approached by the Australians. They deserve our great support and although we are small and often, if not always outnumbered, they have as good a chance as any of the top teams in 25. Some might say that religion is not a religion anymore! Ah maybe if new rules started to work it would be a big help and while clubber is also eating into attendances, they have to have it as otherwise we will lose more to Sunday soccer on TV. |
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Post by jerryewe on Nov 1, 2024 16:37:23 GMT
Does anyone here have business mind? I’m wondering could anyone answer, is it possible for the GAA to grow into a gargantuan organisation like the AFL financially? Is it possible? If not , why not? How does the afl manage to pay their players and have such a huge financial side to their game? The simplest explanation is that there are more people in Australia. The combined attendance for AFL in 2023 was 8.1 million people. The combined total for inter county football & hurling (including league, tailteann cup, Joe McDonagh cup etc.) was 1.6 million. Any possible model that could support professional GAA players would see a limit on the number of inter-county teams - maybe 12 football & 10 hurling. Those teams would have to play each other in a round robin format at least once, if not twice a year to generate gate receipts to make it financially viable . |
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Post by greengold35 on Nov 1, 2024 17:11:17 GMT
After a full season of county and club championships, is this where we think our best team would be if we had to play an All-Ireland final: Ryan Graham Foley Tom Briain Morley White DOC JOC Paudie SOS ? D.Geaney Clifford Brosnan Brosnan could also play on the wing like he did last year and put K. Spillane inside especially if these new rules come in. What are we looking at bench wise? Murphy/Coffey P. Murphy Casey Heinrich P. Geaney Luke Crowley? Cian lynch? Struggling a bit with the bench I would like to see Tom Leo & Seán O’Brien get game time in the league - Darragh Lyne too; it’s time for Killian Spillane to nail down his spot also. Cian Lynch, Charlie Keating also ( if not heading to Oz). |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Nov 1, 2024 20:22:55 GMT
Does anyone here have business mind? I’m wondering could anyone answer, is it possible for the GAA to grow into a gargantuan organisation like the AFL financially? Is it possible? If not , why not? How does the afl manage to pay their players and have such a huge financial side to their game? The simplest explanation is that there are more people in Australia. The combined attendance for AFL in 2023 was 8.1 million people. The combined total for inter county football & hurling (including league, tailteann cup, Joe McDonagh cup etc.) was 1.6 million. Any possible model that could support professional GAA players would see a limit on the number of inter-county teams - maybe 12 football & 10 hurling. Those teams would have to play each other in a round robin format at least once, if not twice a year to generate gate receipts to make it financially viable . For this to be viable, you would assume that no inter county footballers will ever play for their club again. Some people on this forum want their inter county players to be playing district championships. |
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Nov 1, 2024 20:25:05 GMT
I presume people are touting Tom Leo for a corner back role as one of the 3 staying back although that is quite different to the role he played for Dingle this year.
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(well like within reason (kinda) for a Kerry animal)
