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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 22, 2024 20:30:18 GMT
So why are we going forward with Whacko Jacko if we don't believe in him? I personally feel that the Jacko I knew 5 years ago would have resigned after how last year played out. He expressly said that he wouldn't/couldn't abandon his own style; I fear the worst but look, hopefully I am wrong. IMO it's the worst decision ever made in Kerry and that in a way is in the GAA overall. I now wonder if the question mark over Burke is related here? Jesus do you keep beating that drum. |
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Post by Ballydonoghoor on Oct 22, 2024 21:08:16 GMT
Royal, while I try to be compassionate I do not accept your feeling you have some divine right to tell anyone what to contribute here. Who do you think you are?
Though I shouldn't have to explain myself, there has been a development and I asked a question based on a belief I held, quiet a strong one, a belief held by very many. With respect I have noticed the quality of your comments to have deteriorated from the royal I once knew.
I follow form on here and I always look to learn as much as possible from my fellow forum members, so if you were to apply that policy then you would just ignore my comments. Like most others I don't come on here to discredit others.
On a general basis, you need separate the issue from the individual - i.e. is the potential loss of Burke connected to Jack's tenure? The answer may determine where Sam goes next and I am insignificant to that - it is about a county, not an individual, not even you!
Of course if it is the individual you want to criticise then jump in a lake, a deep one! I am sick of you right now and you were better than that - this is a public forum, not your loudspeaker.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 22, 2024 21:21:53 GMT
Royal, while I try to be compassionate I do not accept your feeling you have some divine right to tell anyone what to contribute here. Who do you think you are? Though I shouldn't have to explain myself, there has been a development and I asked a question based on a belief I held, quiet a strong one, a belief held by very many. With respect I have noticed the quality of your comments to have deteriorated from the royal I once knew. I follow form on here and I always look to learn as much as possible from my fellow forum members, so if you were to apply that policy then you would just ignore my comments. Like most others I don't come on here to discredit others. On a general basis, you need separate the issue from the individual - i.e. is the potential loss of Burke connected to Jack's tenure? The answer may determine where Sam goes next and I am insignificant to that - it is about a county, not an individual, not even you! Of course if it is the individual you want to criticise then jump in a lake, a deep one! I am sick of you right now and you were better than that - this is a public forum, not your loudspeaker. It's rather ironic that you talk about loud speakers when you post about the Kerry management ad nauseum. Inferring players are going to Australia because of their treatment by a county manager is absurd. Young lads don't leave the country because of a football manager. Its a public forum and therfore people will react too public comment particularly if its consistently repeated. |
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Post by Ballydonoghoor on Oct 22, 2024 22:04:41 GMT
As I said, forum members will judge things for themselves and that you now know how Cillian Burke is thinking is further evidence that you are off beat, well, deluded! Have you spoken with him?
That was the question I asked and which was a reasonable and sensible one and you say you know the answer - I don't believe you!
Look, I'd prefer if you didn't bother engaging with me and just let members decide for themselves, you have made it clear that you generally disagree with what I say and that's fine by me - just motor on!
I am not learning anything here other than you are a different Royal to the one I though I knew of old!
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Post by glengael on Oct 23, 2024 11:26:24 GMT
I wish Stephen and Adrian well in their retirement. Stephen made a huge contribution for ten or more years , realizing his full potential. I always felt Adrian had more in him. I am not sure Jack used him optimally. Like Ciarraimick, I had a sense that he had all the qualities to be a very effective, mobile , combative CHB.and offered that opinion here about a year ago, Of course , Jack would never risk such a daring move whereas, for instance, Mick O’Dwyer would have tried that experiment in the blink of an eye. is it fair to say that Adrian's dad Tom ending up at 6 was one such expirement under Micko? was Tom a defender at minor and under 21? I remember Tom Spillane playing at 11 for the seniors when he first made the team in 1982. Not sure about minor or U 21. |
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Post by greengold35 on Oct 23, 2024 11:32:57 GMT
is it fair to say that Adrian's dad Tom ending up at 6 was one such expirement under Micko? was Tom a defender at minor and under 21? I remember Tom Spillane playing at 11 for the seniors when he first made the team in 1982. Not sure about minor or U 21. Tom played wing forward, midfield & full forward as a minor - never figured in defence. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 30, 2024 11:18:37 GMT
Lads,
To the lads that get to more club games that do i'd like your view on Tom Leo O'Sullivan.
What I've seen of him surely he should be getting a run in the league.
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Post by mainevalley on Oct 30, 2024 11:26:00 GMT
Lads, To the lads that get to more club games that do i'd like your view on Tom Leo O'Sullivan. What I've seen of him surely he should be getting a run in the league. Dingle always put him on one of best opposition forwards so that's a good indication. The dingle player I'm most impressed with is Niall geaney, looks like a serious athlete. Very good attacking half back and could play in midfield and forwards also |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 30, 2024 11:44:35 GMT
Lads, To the lads that get to more club games that do i'd like your view on Tom Leo O'Sullivan. What I've seen of him surely he should be getting a run in the league. Dingle always put him on one of best opposition forwards so that's a good indication. The dingle player I'm most impressed with is Niall geaney, looks like a serious athlete. Very good attacking half back and could play in midfield and forwards also Thanks a million for the response. Yes that would be my take on Tom Leo aswell. Surely Jack could be giving these fellas a run in the league. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 30, 2024 16:13:05 GMT
Am I right in saying the county captaincy is between Gavin White and Tony Brosnan - I envisage Gavin is the front runner.
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Post by veteran on Oct 30, 2024 17:18:23 GMT
Am I right in saying the county captaincy is between Gavin White and Tony Brosnan - I envisage Gavin is the front runner. Crokes seem to have their own way of doing things. I notice that their club captain was David Naughton who did not command a regular spot on the team. Perhaps, they will nominate somebody who might only make the fringes of the Kerry team/panel, e.g. Mark O’Shea /Evan Looney, and try to force the hand of the Kerry management. |
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Post by greengold35 on Oct 30, 2024 19:01:42 GMT
Lads, To the lads that get to more club games that do i'd like your view on Tom Leo O'Sullivan. What I've seen of him surely he should be getting a run in the league. He’s an excellent footballer - he declined an invite from Kerry management to join the squad in ‘22 - think he was doing exams. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 30, 2024 19:25:12 GMT
On the County Championship thread, GreenGold35 is quoted as saying Shane Murphy has departed the panel.
For me, it'd a pity that Devon Burns isn't available but in Beaufort's Sean Coffey and Kenmare's Fitzgibbon would be the front runners.. I like Curran but wonder is he big enough to command the square, actually last years minor keeper from Dingle Hoare is a serious prospect.
There are options there but in all honesty they are fighting it out for the number 16 jersey
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Post by peanuts on Oct 30, 2024 20:02:23 GMT
On the County Championship thread, GreenGold35 is quoted as saying Shane Murphy has departed the panel. For me, it'd a pity that Devon Burns isn't available but in Beaufort's Sean Coffey and Kenmare's Fitzgibbon would be the front runners.. I like Curran but wonder is he big enough to command the square, actually last years minor keeper from Dingle Hoare is a serious prospect. There are options there but in all honesty they are fighting it out for the number 16 jersey Why is Devon Burns unavailable. Just because he’s playing in Dublin doesn’t rule him out. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 30, 2024 20:36:44 GMT
On the County Championship thread, GreenGold35 is quoted as saying Shane Murphy has departed the panel. For me, it'd a pity that Devon Burns isn't available but in Beaufort's Sean Coffey and Kenmare's Fitzgibbon would be the front runners.. I like Curran but wonder is he big enough to command the square, actually last years minor keeper from Dingle Hoare is a serious prospect. There are options there but in all honesty they are fighting it out for the number 16 jersey Why is Devon Burns unavailable. Just because he’s playing in Dublin doesn’t rule him out. I agree it shouldn't, however, there is a "out of sight out of mind" when players are playing outside the county. The crux of the matter is, players and probably more so a keeper has to have a strong understanding with his midfielders and full back line, this comes from training and being in and around each other. The distance, volume of commitment required and the fact I envisage being with the Garda Siochána shift work may be involved makes it challenging. Personally, I have him well well ahead of Coffey and Fitzgerald, so I hope a compromise can be reached, however, I just feel this situation is not conducive to what may be required and probably more so what is expected by Jack so therefore not feasible. |
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Post by ballhopper34 on Oct 30, 2024 21:20:04 GMT
There was a time when players often got job transfers back into the county...teachers and Garda lads especially. With or without County Board or politicians assisting is another question.
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Post by ciarraimick on Oct 30, 2024 22:06:16 GMT
Am I right in saying the county captaincy is between Gavin White and Tony Brosnan - I envisage Gavin is the front runner. Crokes seem to have their own way of doing things. I notice that their club captain was David Naughton who did not command a regular spot on the team. Perhaps, they will nominate somebody who might only make the fringes of the Kerry team/panel, e.g. Mark O’Shea /Evan Looney, and try to force the hand of the Kerry management. 😁Id say it will be between White and Brosnan with Gavin the frontrunner.However Vet I know where you re coming from. For those of us that remember 2001.Seamus Moynihan was given captaincy for Munster championship as there was no Crokes player on first 15 but when Eoin Brosnan made the team for semi final the captaincy was changed and given to Eoin (word at time is Crokes demanded it).Not any fault of Eoin but the saga did nt help as Meath gave us the beating of of all beatings. |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Oct 30, 2024 22:09:45 GMT
There was a time when players often got job transfers back into the county...teachers and Garda lads especially. With or without County Board or politicians assisting is another question. Id say that still happens when you look at the current panel. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 30, 2024 22:24:54 GMT
Crokes seem to have their own way of doing things. I notice that their club captain was David Naughton who did not command a regular spot on the team. Perhaps, they will nominate somebody who might only make the fringes of the Kerry team/panel, e.g. Mark O’Shea /Evan Looney, and try to force the hand of the Kerry management. 😁Id say it will be between White and Brosnan with Gavin the frontrunner.However Vet I know where you re coming from. For those of us that remember 2001.Seamus Moynihan was given captaincy for Munster championship as there was no Crokes player on first 15 but when Eoin Brosnan made the team for semi final the captaincy was changed and given to Eoin (word at time is Crokes demanded it).Not any fault of Eoin but the saga did nt help as Meath gave us the beating of of all beatings. Ya, that came out in the wash after, but agree Crokes are a different gravy sometimes. |
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Post by mike70 on Oct 30, 2024 22:28:31 GMT
Looks like a few stepping away from the squad, just wonder if we will have any more guys stepping away, big commitment for fellas that don’t get game time, but you still need a panel of 36, numbers 24 to 36 can be a lonesome place, but you win nothing without them.
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Post by kerryexile on Oct 30, 2024 22:38:14 GMT
😁Id say it will be between White and Brosnan with Gavin the frontrunner.However Vet I know where you re coming from. For those of us that remember 2001.Seamus Moynihan was given captaincy for Munster championship as there was no Crokes player on first 15 but when Eoin Brosnan made the team for semi final the captaincy was changed and given to Eoin (word at time is Crokes demanded it).Not any fault of Eoin but the saga did nt help as Meath gave us the beating of of all beatings. Ya, that came out in the wash after, but agree Crokes are a different gravy sometimes. Word at the time was that it was demanded in an “un-refusable” way. |
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Post by john4 on Oct 31, 2024 3:10:02 GMT
Looks like a few stepping away from the squad, just wonder if we will have any more guys stepping away, big commitment for fellas that don’t get game time, but you still need a panel of 36, numbers 24 to 36 can be a lonesome place, but you win nothing without them. With the level of commitment now required and expected, has the shine of IC representation gone off a little bit? I get the sense that the "Commitment v The rewards" a huge ask of a fella in the prime of his life |
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Post by decondd2 on Oct 31, 2024 7:32:49 GMT
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Post by thehermit on Oct 31, 2024 9:22:50 GMT
When the one bright spot from this whole year is robbed you begin to wonder as a supporter if you should put yourself through another season of probable bitter disappointment in 2025  Should be basking in the glow of a 3-in-a-row this winter, instead with each passing day you wonder if 2022 was another once in a decade apparition. The past 5 years have been mostly a bitter catalogue of misfortune  |
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Post by tribeofciar on Oct 31, 2024 9:30:04 GMT
Best wishes to Cillian in his new adventure, hope he does well with Geelong. However, from a Kerry point of view this is getting frustrating, another potential talent for the senior team off the selection table |
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Post by veteran on Oct 31, 2024 9:41:36 GMT
Kerry getting no All-Star is inconsequential but Cillian’s departure is utterly depressing.
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Post by kot on Oct 31, 2024 10:55:46 GMT
Terribly depressing news but foreseen. GAA are going to have to team up with Sport Ireland and just block these combine yolks anywhere in Ireland and in any GAA facility globally until some sort of compensation packages is offered to the county boards & clubs impacted.
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Post by kerryexile on Oct 31, 2024 11:21:43 GMT
If the evolution of Kerry football was a novel written by some great writer like Leo Tolstoy the symbolism of today would surely mean that the poor, misguided, miserable, anti-hero had hit rock bottom.
It’s Halloween.
No Allstar.
No subscriber on the “Kerry GAA Forum - Unofficial” has enough belief to argue that a Kerry player should be on.
Probably the first time semi-finalists have failed to get a single Allstar .
Probably the first time Kerry has failed to get a single Allstar having been semi-finalists.
One of the potential messiahs lured far, far away in the flush of youth
Why? Well contrast this “Cillian has made a big life decision to move to Australia. We will support him and have a plan in place to make a smooth transition to the Cats and our football program” with the bitter monosyllabic 2 second conversation between the young man and his previous leader that was reported.
Surely it can’t get any worse.
After all Tomorrow is another day.
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Post by gaaforlife on Oct 31, 2024 12:01:46 GMT
If the evolution of Kerry football was a novel written by some great writer like Leo Tolstoy the symbolism of today would surely mean that the poor, misguided, miserable, anti-hero had hit rock bottom. It’s Halloween. No Allstar. No subscriber on the “Kerry GAA Forum - Unofficial” has enough belief to argue that a Kerry player should be on. Probably the first time semi-finalists have failed to get a single Allstar . Probably the first time Kerry has failed to get a single Allstar having been semi-finalists. One of the potential messiahs lured far, far away in the flush of youth Why? Well contrast this “Cillian has made a big life decision to move to Australia. We will support him and have a plan in place to make a smooth transition to the Cats and our football program” with the bitter monosyllabic 2 second conversation between the young man and his previous leader that was reported. Surely it can’t get any worse. After all Tomorrow is another day. No evidence what jack said or didn't say . Maybe offer was too good turn now |
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Post by gaaforlife on Oct 31, 2024 12:03:02 GMT
Looks like a few stepping away from the squad, just wonder if we will have any more guys stepping away, big commitment for fellas that don’t get game time, but you still need a panel of 36, numbers 24 to 36 can be a lonesome place, but you win nothing without them. 2 retired and burke australlia haven't heard any rest |
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