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Post by Whosinmidfield on Oct 14, 2024 16:59:47 GMT
County championship is nearly at its conclusion and I don’t see anyone stepping up next year again apart from the usuals. Paul geaney standout player of the championship at this stage of his career. I really don’t see anyone new coming to the panel next year and taking it by storm maybe Dylan geaney. I think dingle will beat the crokes in the final. I hope Jack O’Connor doesn’t take that same negative view. Luke Crowley is an interesting prospect that has something. Cian Lynch is a quality defender and his pace could suit as one of the 3 backs who have to stay in their own half under the new rules. Charlie Keating and Darragh Lyne are 2 outstanding athletes, can we find a role for them that benefits the team? Hopefully Keith Evans can push on. Disappointing that there doesn’t seem to be a midfielder who could be looked at. |
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Post by mike70 on Oct 14, 2024 17:24:26 GMT
Considering the stance on the divisional board championships I presume we can expect to see very few if any Kerry players line out with Munster at the weekend in the new rules trial cum Railway Cup in Croke Park.. Interesting for sure, era sure send up David and Paudie. 😎 |
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Post by listowelemerrs on Oct 14, 2024 17:45:51 GMT
County championship is nearly at its conclusion and I don’t see anyone stepping up next year again apart from the usuals. Paul geaney standout player of the championship at this stage of his career. I really don’t see anyone new coming to the panel next year and taking it by storm maybe Dylan geaney. I think dingle will beat the crokes in the final. I hope Jack O’Connor doesn’t take that same negative view. Luke Crowley is an interesting prospect that has something. Cian Lynch is a quality defender and his pace could suit as one of the 3 backs who have to stay in their own half under the new rules. Charlie Keating and Darragh Lyne are 2 outstanding athletes, can we find a role for them that benefits the team? Hopefully Keith Evans can push on. Disappointing that there doesn’t seem to be a midfielder who could be looked at. Difference in being realistic and negative. The reality is we need players that are ready now as Pat Spillane eluded to in his Sunday world column. Whilist Charlie Keating is a good athlete , is he an upgrade on Begley? Good competion is all I’d say. Will take him few years. If Luke Crowley is getting bottled up most of the time in club / district football, I would really worry what it would be like at inter county, takes way too much out of the ball and doesn’t have a really outstanding attribute that would elevate him to the starting Kerry forward line. All those names lack physicality and even height which some may argue isn’t important but I think it is. Those Armagh lads this year were specimens. We basically need about 3 Cillian burkes with different skill sets. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 14, 2024 17:46:22 GMT
Considering the stance on the divisional board championships I presume we can expect to see very few if any Kerry players line out with Munster at the weekend in the new rules trial cum Railway Cup in Croke Park.. Interesting for sure, era sure send up David and Paudie. 😎 Cluxton and McCarthy playing for Leinster..They must want the medal for their collection |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 14, 2024 18:09:08 GMT
If Tadgh Kennelly owned a construction company in Australia and was offering graduates a chance to work over there, he probably would be regarded as some sort of hero for giving people a shot. Glad to see that you’re in agreement about where his priorities lie |
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Post by The16thMan on Oct 14, 2024 18:13:40 GMT
Considering the stance on the divisional board championships I presume we can expect to see very few if any Kerry players line out with Munster at the weekend in the new rules trial cum Railway Cup in Croke Park.. Interesting for sure, era sure send up David and Paudie. 😎 I wouldn't be surprised to see them line out on Friday or Saturday now that East Kerry are out. There will be a huge backlash from all stakeholders if they do but I'm sure that won't stop them. If they want to go, they'll go. |
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Post by mainevalley on Oct 14, 2024 20:18:18 GMT
Considering the stance on the divisional board championships I presume we can expect to see very few if any Kerry players line out with Munster at the weekend in the new rules trial cum Railway Cup in Croke Park.. Is it coming from players or county board that don't want county players playing in district champs? Missed official statement |
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Post by sayitasiseeit on Oct 15, 2024 8:31:35 GMT
A lot of talk about District Championships and player Burnout etc. The same players that everyone was worried about have togged out in McGrath cup games in recent years. Others have returned from All Ireland Club duty almost immediately.
There’s a notion out there that Kerry Intercounty players play far more club games than other counties. That’s not true per se. Kerry players rarely if ever play county league. In many county’s. Including most of the northern counties. County league matters. You can be relegated via the league in terms of your championship status and likewise you can promoted to intermediate or senior via the league.
They play a double league (18 games home and away). Many of these fixtures are earmarked for the inter county lads to be involved. In effect the inter county lads would end up playing 7-8 county league games on top of their championships. Div1 = senior Div 2 = Intermediate Div 3 = Junior etc etc. So in affect whoever wins Division 2&3 move up to Intermediate and senior. Whoever finishes bottom of 1&2 drop to Intermediate and Junior.
The traditional championship winners and relegated teams go up and down also each year. So 2 go up and down in status each year. The point i’m making is that because it matters. The Intercounty lads play a large chunk of those games. Throw in the fact that Munster Intercounty Championship is almost as worthwhile as the McGrath Cup to Kerry at this stage. Most years you play 2 games, one being a fake walk.
The same players that are being touted as being burnt out now have featured in McGrath Cup games recently. There’s no McGrath Cuo this year. There’s ample time for a break if wanted.
The main problem with Kerry is not the amount of games, rather the length of the season. District Boards should get championships underway sooner. The season should end for all in Mid November.
Maybe the district championships should be played at the start of the year. Scrap the District Leagues. Food for thought.
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Post by The16thMan on Oct 16, 2024 17:57:50 GMT
5 Kerry players announced for Munster panel:
Killian Spillane
Diarmuid O'Connor
Tadgh Morley
Damien Bourke
Donal Down O'Sullivan
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 16, 2024 18:25:39 GMT
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Post by john4 on Oct 16, 2024 18:32:31 GMT
Cork x9
⁃Kerry x5
⁃Clare x5
⁃Limerick x4
⁃Waterford x4
⁃Tipperary x3
Cork were always going to be strongly represented via John Cleary
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Post by mainevalley on Oct 16, 2024 18:36:42 GMT
5 Kerry players announced for Munster panel: Killian Spillane Diarmuid O'Connor Tadgh Morley Damien Bourke Donal Down O'Sullivan All guys that have no district champs to take too serious |
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Post by mainevalley on Oct 16, 2024 18:39:15 GMT
The Munster squad is terrible. Four Waterford, a few poor cork players.
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Post by The16thMan on Oct 16, 2024 18:43:48 GMT
The Munster squad is terrible. Four Waterford, a few poor cork players. Munster would be the weakest out of the 4 I reckon. Was going to be hard to pick a lot of Kerry with the way our club championships operate. |
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Post by mainevalley on Oct 16, 2024 18:47:59 GMT
The Munster squad is terrible. Four Waterford, a few poor cork players. Munster would be the weakest out of the 4 I reckon. Was going to be hard to pick a lot of Kerry with the way our club championships operate. They will be given a fair hammering. |
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Post by The16thMan on Oct 16, 2024 18:51:26 GMT
Based on these squads I expect a Connacht Ulster final. Hard to pick Munsters team, only 2 out of the 5 Kerry players actually start for Kerry.
Leinster
1 Stephen Cluxton, Dublin
2 Michael Bambrick, Carlow
3 Mark Barry, Laois
4 Sean Bugler, Dublin
5 Ciaran Byrne, Louth
6 Ray Connellan, Westmeath
7 Peter Cunningham, Offaly
8 Ciaran Downey, Louth
9 Ross Dunphy, Carlow
10 Kevin Feely, Kildare
11 Daniel Flynn, Kildare
12 Darren Gallagher, Longford
13 Dean Healy, Wicklow
14 Ryan Houlihan, Kildare
15 Brian Howard, Dublin
16 Killian Roche, Laois
17 Ronan Jones, Meath
18 Donal Keoghan, Meath
19 Ciaran Kilkenny, Dublin
20 Paul Kingston, Laois
21 Craig Lennon, Louth
22 James McCarthy, Dublin
23 Eoin Murchan, Dublin
24 Evan O'Carroll, Laois
25 Lee Pearson, Offaly
26 Eoin Porter, Wexford
27 Kevin Quinn, Wicklow
28 John Small, Dublin
29 Paddy Small, Dublin
30 Ronan Wallace, Westmeath
Connacht
1 Connor Gleeson, Galway
2 Johnny McGrath, Galway
3 Brian Stack, Roscommon
4 Sean Mulkerrin, Galway
5 Cillian McDaid, Galway
6 John Daly, Galway
7 Eoghan McLoughlin, Mayo
8 Jack Carney, Mayo
9 John Maher, Galway
10 Matthew Tierney, Galway
11 Bob Touhy, Mayo
12 Enda Smith, Roscommon
13 Diarmuid Murtagh, Roscommon
14 Aidan O’Shea, Mayo
15 Daire Cregg, Roscommon
16 Conor Carroll, Roscommon
17 Ruaidhrí Fallon, Roscommon
18 Mark Diffley, Leitrim
19 Johnny Heaney, Galway
20 Shane Brosnan, New York
21 Ultan Harney, Roscommon
22 Barry McNulty, Leitrim
23 Conor Cox, Roscommon
24 Donie Smith, Roscommon
25 Ciaran Murtagh, Roscommon
26 Diarmuid Duffy, Mayo
27 Fergal Boland, Mayo
28 Pat Spillane, Sligo
29 Aidan McLoughlin, London
30 Liam Gallagher, London
31 Paul Towey, Mayo
32 Keith Byrne, Leitrim
33 Shay Rafter, London
34 Eddie McGinness, Sligo
35 Cian Lally, Sligo
36 Joey Grace, New York
37 Daire Rooney, London
Ulster
1 Niall Morgan, Tyrone
2 Diarmuid Baker, Derry
3 Mark Bradley, Tyrone
4 Paddy Burns, Armagh
5 Aidan Clarke, Tyrone
6 Oisin Conaty, Armagh
7 Padraig Faulkner, Cavan
8 Aidan Forker, Armagh
9 Niall Grimley, Armagh
10 Daniel Guiness, Down
11 Pat Havern, Down
12 Marc Jordan, Antrim
13 Conn Kilpatrick, Tyrone
14 Barry McBennett, Monaghan
15 Ronan McCaffrey, Fermanagh
16 Sean McNally, Fermanagh
17 Darren McCurry, Tyrone
18 Eoin McElholm, Tyrone
19 Joe McElroy, Armagh
20 Eoin McEvoy, Derry
21 Kieran McGeary, Tyrone
22 Peter McGrane, Armagh
23 Ross McQuillan, Armagh
24 Odhran Murdock, Down
25 Daire O Baoill, Donegal
26 Rian O Neill, Armagh
27 Oisin O Neill, Armagh
28 Gerry Smith, Cavan
29 Ciaran Thompson, Donegal
30 Niall Toner, Derry
31 Frank Burns, Tyrone
32 Mick Byrne, Antrim
33 Joe Finnegan, Antrim
34 Jason Irwin, Monaghan
35 Jason McLoughlin, Cavan
36 Fionan O’Brien, Fermanagh
Munster
1 Josh Ryan, Limerick
2 Darragh Brennan, Tipperary
3 Damien Bourke, Kerry
4 Darragh Cashman, Cork
5 Eoin Cleary, Clare
6 Jimmy Feehan, Tipperary
7 Aran Griffin, Clare
8 Emmet McMahon, Clare
9 Brian McNamara, Clare
10 Sean Meehan, Cork
11 Tadhg Morley, Kerry
12 James Naughton, Limerick
13 Danny Neville, Limerick
14 Colm O Callaghan, Cork
15 Diarmuid O Connor, Kerry
16 Chris Kelly, Cork
17 Conor O Currin, Waterford
18 Sean O Dea, Limerick
19 Donal O Sullivan, Kerry
20 Chris Og Jones, Cork
21 Dermot Ryan, Waterford
22 Maurice Shanley, Cork
23 Killian Spillane, Kerry
24 Mark Stokes, Tipperary
25 Alan Sweeney, Clare
26 Matty Taylor, Cork
27 Caomhin Walsh, Waterford
28 Tommy Walsh, Cork
29 Sean Walsh, Waterford
30 Paul Walsh, Cork
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Post by mainevalley on Oct 16, 2024 18:56:33 GMT
The only thing I'm taking from this is that Dublin are all out to win SAM next year if mc carthy and cluxton are wanting to play in this to get ahead of game and make a point with everyone that they are around next year....
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 16, 2024 19:39:37 GMT
The only thing I'm taking from this is that Dublin are all out to win SAM next year if mc carthy and cluxton are wanting to play in this to get ahead of game and make a point with everyone that they are around next year.... I wouldn't read that much into it in my opinion. They might just want a railway cup medal ! |
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Post by mainevalley on Oct 16, 2024 19:45:41 GMT
The only thing I'm taking from this is that Dublin are all out to win SAM next year if mc carthy and cluxton are wanting to play in this to get ahead of game and make a point with everyone that they are around next year.... I wouldn't read that much into it in my opinion. They might just want a railway cup medal ! I don't think a railway cup medal is high up in cluxtons goals |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Oct 16, 2024 20:11:54 GMT
It’s also a bit more convenient for the Dubs in terms of travel also.
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Post by exiled on Oct 16, 2024 20:24:50 GMT
Alot of counties are losing players to OZ but we seem to be losing our top talent. Dublin did lose James Madden a few years ago (that was highly spoken of) but he is returning back now to concentrate on gaa.He is just 24 years old. Cillian Burke would be a huge loss for us. Clubs and counties across the country are losing players to Oz.. To Canada.. America.. etc.. and guys transferring away to clubs in Dublin or Cork or wherever... being a rural county on the western seaboard is no help... but certainly and without doubt being a Kerry senior footballer is no longer viewed as the great opportunity it is by the younger generation... the obsession by the young people of Ireland with Australia is headscratching... its not cheap place to live.. you work hard there.. The obsession with Australia is mostly with the lifestyle plus weather to a lesser degree. My own son talking of returning there even though he's on 100k here.Its the lifestyle he says. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 16, 2024 21:12:47 GMT
I wouldn't read that much into it in my opinion. They might just want a railway cup medal ! I don't think a railway cup medal is high up in cluxtons goals You'd be surprised. When you have everything else. |
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Post by john4 on Oct 17, 2024 8:22:01 GMT
Anyone know will Jack Barry be available for IC championship for Kerry in 2025?
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Post by thehermit on Oct 17, 2024 9:51:21 GMT
Doesn't look like the Kerry boys have much interest in this experiment! However there is a WhatsApp going around (supposedly by someone close to one of the Kerry lads above) that says at the training camp they attended in Mallow they felt the new rules were very positive and would hugely speed up the game once we welcome the return to dry sod and hard pitches next spring/summer.
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Post by The16thMan on Oct 17, 2024 10:05:09 GMT
Doesn't look like the Kerry boys have much interest in this experiment! However there is a WhatsApp going around (supposedly by someone close to one of the Kerry lads above) that says at the training camp they attended in Mallow they felt the new rules were very positive and would hugely speed up the game once we welcome the return to dry sod and hard pitches next spring/summer. Haven't heard any negative comments by people who have seen or played in the sandbox games so far, has my hopes up for the weekend but all will be revealed. |
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Post by jackiel on Oct 17, 2024 13:24:24 GMT
I'm not taking Cluxton & Mc Carthy's participation this weekend as an indication that they'll be playing IC next year.
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Post by thehermit on Oct 17, 2024 15:53:02 GMT
Diarmaid is captaining Munster I see.
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Post by southward on Oct 17, 2024 16:04:35 GMT
I'm not taking Cluxton & Mc Carthy's participation this weekend as an indication that they'll be playing IC next year. Jesus, how long is he there now? Aspiring Dublin goalkeepers must be getting fairly pi*sed off at this stage. |
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Post by greengold35 on Oct 17, 2024 18:58:10 GMT
I'm not taking Cluxton & Mc Carthy's participation this weekend as an indication that they'll be playing IC next year. Agree - doing Gavin a favour more likely. |
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Post by kerrylad38 on Oct 17, 2024 21:43:55 GMT
County championship is nearly at its conclusion and I don’t see anyone stepping up next year again apart from the usuals. Paul geaney standout player of the championship at this stage of his career. I really don’t see anyone new coming to the panel next year and taking it by storm maybe Dylan geaney. I think dingle will beat the crokes in the final. I hope Jack O’Connor doesn’t take that same negative view. Luke Crowley is an interesting prospect that has something. Cian Lynch is a quality defender and his pace could suit as one of the 3 backs who have to stay in their own half under the new rules. Charlie Keating and Darragh Lyne are 2 outstanding athletes, can we find a role for them that benefits the team? Hopefully Keith Evans can push on. Disappointing that there doesn’t seem to be a midfielder who could be looked at. Sean o Connell cordal looked very promising in all of Kieran’s game. Got the better of Joe o Connor and Ronan Buckley in games. Heard jack has called him into the panel. Would like to see him In a league match serious fielder of a ball |
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