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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 21, 2024 20:30:25 GMT
We heard from players for years "more games - more games - more games" and now the proposal is fewer games than 20 years ago??? Unless they are running leagues concurrently this sounds mad wrt the players. The suggested plan is 16 teams in round 1 with a round 2 winners round and a round 2 losers. It is more or less 6 rounds instead of 7 for the All-Ireland series. The benefits are knockout jeopardy football for the 8 losers in round 2. One round less will allow a rest weekend after the league finals. As Pipsqueak said on previous page, I have forgotten about the provincials. |
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Post by veteran on Jun 22, 2024 9:33:10 GMT
I see where Colin Kllpatrick’s suspension has been overturned. This disciplinary process in the GAA is bringing the entire body into disrepute.
Incidentally, do Tyrone ever gracefully accept suspensions?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 22, 2024 9:50:55 GMT
I see where Colin Kllpatrick’s suspension has been overturned. This disciplinary process in the GAA is bringing the entire body into disrepute. Incidentally, do Tyrone ever gracefully accept suspensions? I hope and sometimes it is the case, that the distraction of an appeal means a successful appeal is more trouble than it's worth. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 22, 2024 10:18:12 GMT
I see where Colin Kllpatrick’s suspension has been overturned. This disciplinary process in the GAA is bringing the entire body into disrepute. Incidentally, do Tyrone ever gracefully accept suspensions? Sorry Vet, I'd be of the opposite view, fair play yo them. In a way, this is where our board fall down. We rolled over in 2021 with Tyrone deferring semi final, we rolled over in 2010 with Tomàs suspension, we most definitely rolled over in was it 2008 with Paul Galvin .. we should have taken a higher line there and threatened to withdraw, often you have to pull the tiger's tail to get the roar. |
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Post by legendz on Jun 22, 2024 13:09:52 GMT
The suggested plan is 16 teams in round 1 with a round 2 winners round and a round 2 losers. It is more or less 6 rounds instead of 7 for the All-Ireland series. The benefits are knockout jeopardy football for the 8 losers in round 2. One round less will allow a rest weekend after the league finals. I believe several plans are being presented to the provincial councils. Can I ask what was wrong with the super 8s? Abandoned after 2 years due to COVID. 2 groups of 4 with only 2 to progress to the semis. At least 3 strong teams in each group as we found out in 2018. There were great days out with big attendances like clones in 18 and mayo in Killarney in 19. The current format is awful. We have spent 5 weekends getting rid of 4 of 16 teams with the public voting with their feet. At least we have proper championship starting this weekend. I believe we need a third football competition. Some teams being hammered in both competitions at the moment. I thought the Super 8s was fine as well. Was it the counties missing out who wanted an expanded All-Ireland series or lower tier footballing counties wanting league linked to championship? |
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Post by clarinman on Jun 22, 2024 13:16:23 GMT
I believe several plans are being presented to the provincial councils. Can I ask what was wrong with the super 8s? Abandoned after 2 years due to COVID. 2 groups of 4 with only 2 to progress to the semis. At least 3 strong teams in each group as we found out in 2018. There were great days out with big attendances like clones in 18 and mayo in Killarney in 19. The current format is awful. We have spent 5 weekends getting rid of 4 of 16 teams with the public voting with their feet. At least we have proper championship starting this weekend. I believe we need a third football competition. Some teams being hammered in both competitions at the moment. I thought the Super 8s was fine as well. Was it the counties missing out who wanted an expanded All-Ireland series or lower tier footballing counties wanting league linked to championship? The GPA pushed strongly at the time for the current format. They made a presentation to Congress before the vote took place in 2021. |
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Post by orangerhyme on Jun 22, 2024 13:47:09 GMT
The suggested plan is 16 teams in round 1 with a round 2 winners round and a round 2 losers. It is more or less 6 rounds instead of 7 for the All-Ireland series. The benefits are knockout jeopardy football for the 8 losers in round 2. One round less will allow a rest weekend after the league finals. I believe several plans are being presented to the provincial councils. Can I ask what was wrong with the super 8s? Abandoned after 2 years due to COVID. 2 groups of 4 with only 2 to progress to the semis. At least 3 strong teams in each group as we found out in 2018. There were great days out with big attendances like clones in 18 and mayo in Killarney in 19. The current format is awful. We have spent 5 weekends getting rid of 4 of 16 teams with the public voting with their feet. At least we have proper championship starting this weekend. I believe we need a third football competition. Some teams being hammered in both competitions at the moment. I agree about 3rd competition. Every county should compete at a level that they have at least a realistic chance of winning. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 22, 2024 16:18:03 GMT
I fancy Galway and Mayo in this prelim round more than I would fancy Tyrone. 👀 👀 👀 |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 22, 2024 17:34:49 GMT
I see where Colin Kllpatrick’s suspension has been overturned. This disciplinary process in the GAA is bringing the entire body into disrepute. Incidentally, do Tyrone ever gracefully accept suspensions? Sorry Vet, I'd be of the opposite view, fair play yo them. In a way, this is where our board fall down. We rolled over in 2021 with Tyrone deferring semi final, we rolled over in 2010 with Tomàs suspension, we most definitely rolled over in was it 2008 with Paul Galvin .. we should have taken a higher line there and threatened to withdraw, often you have to pull the tiger's tail to get the roar. A distraction. Some karma for Tyrone. |
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 22, 2024 17:51:49 GMT
I don't know why but Roscommon are always a team I like to see do well. Great win for them today.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 22, 2024 17:56:21 GMT
I don't know why but Roscommon are always a team I like to see do well. Great win for them today. They kick points from distance. |
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Post by mike70 on Jun 22, 2024 18:23:08 GMT
Well done Roscommon, way more direct.
Mayo struggling too, big second half needed to stay in the championship.
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Post by clarinman on Jun 22, 2024 18:25:34 GMT
Well done Roscommon, way more direct. Mayo struggling too, big second half needed to stay in the championship. First halves of Galway Monaghan and mayo derry have been awful football |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 22, 2024 18:59:39 GMT
Delighted for Tyrone.
They haven't got 1 break since that stunt with Covid... Karma is a .....
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 22, 2024 19:56:04 GMT
The preliminary draw will take place tomorrow morning. Galway v Roscommon, Cork or Monaghan Mayo v Derry, Cork or Monaghan Tyrone v Derry, Roscommon or Monaghan Louth v Derry, Roscommon or Cork Galway should get through. Everyone will possibly want to avoid Derry even though they haven't been great. There could still be a sting in their tail. Derry are very much a busted flush at this stage. The "busted flush" did well... penalties await. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 22, 2024 20:04:44 GMT
I got a flutter of excitement when James O'D tipped Kerry to win. This was dampened somewhat when he ranked Derry #3 and tipped them to beat Mayo. ...but whatever about Derry the man surely knows Kerry football better than many. He knows Derry too and backed them to win this. |
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Post by legendz on Jun 22, 2024 20:05:34 GMT
Tyrone and Mayo are out!! Galway the only team to make home advantage count today. Only one of the four home preliminary quarter-finalists won last year.
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Post by greengold35 on Jun 22, 2024 20:34:41 GMT
The Indo tonight! Something not right!
“ So, after winning just two games in the championship, the League champions will contest next week’s All-Ireland quarter finals while Mayo, who reached the Connacht final and were unbeaten in the Sam Maguire series are gone”
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Post by patinkerry on Jun 22, 2024 20:39:49 GMT
Some of us where around in 1944 when they beat Kerry in the final 🙂 I don't know why but Roscommon are always a team I like to see do well. Great win for them today. Well they have never beaten us in championship in our lifetime so we would have no animosity against them.I like the Rossies too and love their jersey. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 22, 2024 20:44:50 GMT
Oh, poor Mayo.
They failed to win the Connacht final.
They failed to finish the job against Dubin and against Derry.
All teams operating under the same rules.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 22, 2024 20:44:54 GMT
Whoever draws Derry will be happy enough, that game would have been emotionally and physically draining, the extra time would be sapping in the legs, I know a lot will be made of their recovery, in this regard being drawn to play Saturday as opposed to Sunday could be telling ... most games are eighty minutes now not seventy, the final quarter could be testing for them next week, especially in a dogged or fast encounter.
In reality I've seen nothing today that would strike fear in my, I genuinely think the semi final draw will be the four teams that finished top of their respective groups.
On another note, I take it today brought down the curtains on a few lads with mileage on the clock... Harte and Donnelly on Tyrone, the O'Connor brothers and Aidan O'Shea in Mayo and the pick of the bunch, Ciaràn McManus from Monaghan .. what a player and servant to the Monaghan team
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Post by Hicser on Jun 22, 2024 20:55:00 GMT
The Indo tonight! Something not right! “ So, after winning just two games in the championship, the League champions will contest next week’s All-Ireland quarter finals while Mayo, who reached the Connacht final and were unbeaten in the Sam Maguire series are gone” I agree.I was just about to post same that in the AI series Derry go through after loding twice and Mayo undefeated go out on penalties.A flawed system .For 3 teams out of 4 to go through is just inane. Disagree, back door offered Kerry in the past. Mayo were there for the taking |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 22, 2024 20:57:03 GMT
74 mins Mayo 1-8 Derry 0-10
72 mins Mayo 0-17 Dublin 0-16
72 mins Mayo 0-15 Galway 0-14.
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Post by Hicser on Jun 22, 2024 21:00:08 GMT
I am in agreement with all of the above; think that Mayo will have invested so much mentally in their battle with Dublin that they will struggle to beat Derry - also, the concession of the last score will have hurt them hard. I don't really buy into that narrative re mayo tbh I think (from talking to mayo friends) the county got a huge Uplift from that game it showed them they can still compete with Dublin caveats not knockout or croke park. I think there will be a big crowd there at the weekend and they will put derry out. Speaking of confidence I doubt scraping over the line against westmeath will hardly encourage derry that after 3 bad beatings that they are contenders again Mayo by 6 Sorry but I love this 🤣 Mind you, I didn’t see Rossies winning. |
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Post by Hicser on Jun 22, 2024 21:17:05 GMT
Assuming Cork win tomorrow, I’d like to avoid Cork & Derry, mostly Derry. I don’t see Galway or Ross being much of a threat,
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Post by mainevalley on Jun 22, 2024 21:27:03 GMT
Assuming Cork win tomorrow, I’d like to avoid Cork & Derry, mostly Derry. I don’t see Galway or Ross being much of a threat, I'd like to avoid Galway and Derry. If Galway manage to get all there players on the field they are a match for any side. Derry very dangerous now. Cork and Ross would be easier games |
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 23, 2024 0:12:21 GMT
Would be happy to get Derry. Especially if it was played Saturday. Great time to play them.
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Post by mossie on Jun 23, 2024 3:42:20 GMT
Assuming Cork win tomorrow, I’d like to avoid Cork & Derry, mostly Derry. I don’t see Galway or Ross being much of a threat, I'd like to avoid Galway and Derry. If Galway manage to get all there players on the field they are a match for any side. Derry very dangerous now. Cork and Ross would be easier games how many more easy games do you want Kerry to have? At this stage I would prefer whatever the toughest draw is - lets see where we are really at |
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Post by mike70 on Jun 23, 2024 5:22:51 GMT
Hands up got two wrong, I thought Tyrone might kick on, but the rossies came into the game on the back of a big score against an improving Cavan, fair dues, but Tyrone have not pushed on in the last 3 years, suggest they have gone backwards.
As for mayo, well mayo never cease to surprise, just some serious poor decision making on their behalf, will the victory galvanise Derry, hard to tell, they did give their best performance since the league, will the improvement continue, will the back to back games take its toll.
Let’s see how my cork prediction works out today.
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Post by tralee58 on Jun 23, 2024 7:10:52 GMT
I've been thinking since watching the final play of Mayo v Dublin last weekend. What if Mayo had done to Dublin what Dublin did to them in the last seconds of the final a few years ago. Kicking the ball away from Cluxton and then pulling the Dublin players to the ground. Would the powers that be have stood idley by like then. Part of Dublins success has been the utilisation of well rehearsed ‘skulduggery’ street style tactics. It works if it is accepted by authorities it clearly is but am not sure other ethical sporting Gaelic counties be comfortable adopting this approach. Kerry ladies experienced this from Dublin too. Not sure what the answer is. Exceptional point and goalscoring ability certainly goes some way to dealing with it for sure. |
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