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Post by homerj on Jun 23, 2024 8:24:34 GMT
74 mins Mayo 1-8 Derry 0-10 72 mins Mayo 0-17 Dublin 0-16 72 mins Mayo 0-15 Galway 0-14. Thats tough on Mayo. 2019 we were leading AI final in injury time. 2020 we were a point up last min of extra time. 2021 we lost by a point after extra time. 2023 we drawing an AI final in 73rd min. Our players and managers got slaughtered for not winning these games and we've been seen as soft for not closing out tight games. Not hard on Mayo at all, they simply didn't have the steel and balls to close out those 3 games, holding possession would have seen them home in all 3.
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Post by mainevalley on Jun 23, 2024 8:28:10 GMT
I'd like to avoid Galway and Derry. If Galway manage to get all there players on the field they are a match for any side. Derry very dangerous now. Cork and Ross would be easier games how many more easy games do you want Kerry to have? At this stage I would prefer whatever the toughest draw is - lets see where we are really at Your probably right
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Post by taggert on Jun 23, 2024 8:49:52 GMT
So its Dublin, Kerry, Armagh, Donegal on one side of the draw and Derry, Roscommon, Galway, Louth/Cork on the other side awaiting.
Does anyone know what rules apply re meeting teams already played - i.e. we played Cork in province (albeit not the final) and Louth in a group game.
Any fixtures that can't happen in tomorrows draw?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 23, 2024 9:03:25 GMT
So its Dublin, Kerry, Armagh, Donegal on one side of the draw and Derry, Roscommon, Galway, Louth/Cork on the other side awaiting. Does anyone know what rules apply re meeting teams already played - i.e. we played Cork in province (albeit not the final) and Louth in a group game. Any fixtures that can't happen in tomorrows draw? Yes Dublin can only draw - Galway or Derry or Cork. Because they had the Rossies in the group and Louth in Leinster final. The only team Kerry cannot meet is Louth. On a separate note, Really thought it was poor form RTE interviewing McKinnless last night considering what he was suspended for.
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 23, 2024 10:14:36 GMT
I don't know why but Roscommon are always a team I like to see do well. Great win for them today. Well they have never beaten us in championship in our lifetime so we would have no animosity against them.I like the Rossies too and love their jersey. Roscommon are a bit like Aston Villa, in that I don't think too many people would be upset to see them do well.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 23, 2024 11:42:12 GMT
Understandably, we will have some supporters hoping for kind draws next weekend but I’ve absolutely NO doubt, inside the Kerry camp they’ll be hoping for the hardest test possible. Rightly so! This is not about being careful what you wish for but being realistic.
Big picture, if you’re going to hunt down the big blue whale you need to be able to take down all comers. Either a Derry or Galway will be providing the gut check and road test Kerry need in what most likely would be a one-score game at the finish. Kerry standing on the trapdoor out of the championship next weekend and fighting for their lives is what they want – and will narrow the focus and performance right down to the here and now. As supporters the Championship will always shred the nerves at some stage and may as well be next weekend – bring it on!
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Post by taggert on Jun 23, 2024 12:52:16 GMT
So its Dublin, Kerry, Armagh, Donegal on one side of the draw and Derry, Roscommon, Galway, Louth/Cork on the other side awaiting. Does anyone know what rules apply re meeting teams already played - i.e. we played Cork in province (albeit not the final) and Louth in a group game. Any fixtures that can't happen in tomorrows draw? Yes Dublin can only draw - Galway or Derry or Cork. Because they had the Rossies in the group and Louth in Leinster final. The only team Kerry cannot meet is Louth. On a separate note, Really thought it was poor form RTE interviewing McKinnless last night considering what he was suspended for. Cheers for that.
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Post by exiled on Jun 23, 2024 13:42:00 GMT
McStay has to look in the mirror to find out the reason they lost. Both last week and yesterday he made the same basic errors. Missed scores last week by having only a right foot player taking frees and same yesterday. He took off Ruane who was keeping Rodgers quite and then Rodgers has a hand in next 3 points.
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Post by legendz on Jun 23, 2024 13:54:22 GMT
Mayo lost against Galway as well when the game was in the melting pot. They wanted to avoid the league final this year for understandable reasons but then have been unable to kick in to gear on the three occasions that it was required for winning Connacht, their group and then getting through their first knockout round. Ahead of Louth v Cork coming up soon, I think these are the possible pairings: Armagh v Roscommon, Cork or Louth. Dublin v Galway, Derry or Cork. Donegal v Galway, Derry, Roscommon or Louth. Kerry v Galway, Derry, Roscommon or Cork.
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Post by The16thMan on Jun 23, 2024 14:46:39 GMT
I'd like to avoid Galway and Derry. If Galway manage to get all there players on the field they are a match for any side. Derry very dangerous now. Cork and Ross would be easier games how many more easy games do you want Kerry to have? At this stage I would prefer whatever the toughest draw is - lets see where we are really at I'd agree with Moss here, we can't play Louth & I wouldn't like to see Kerry draw Roscommon or Cork (if they beat Louth). Kerry need to get a stiff test. Last thing we want is to get another division 2 team and then have the possibility of playing Dublin (or another Div.1 team potentially) in a semi without having played one Div.1 team in the Championship. Kerry need to start playing as close to the maximum level as possible and I think drawing either Galway or Derry in the quarters will help us get to that level. My gut does tell me we will draw Roscommon for some reason.
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Post by orangerhyme on Jun 23, 2024 15:28:25 GMT
how many more easy games do you want Kerry to have? At this stage I would prefer whatever the toughest draw is - lets see where we are really at I'd agree with Moss here, we can't play Louth & I wouldn't like to see Kerry draw Roscommon or Cork (if they beat Louth). Kerry need to get a stiff test. Last thing we want is to get another division 2 team and then have the possibility of playing Dublin (or another Div.1 team potentially) in a semi without having played one Div.1 team in the Championship. Kerry need to start playing as close to the maximum level as possible and I think drawing either Galway or Derry in the quarters will help us get to that level. My gut does tell me we will draw Roscommon for some reason. I like us to get Dublin. Think they might be more vulnerable now rather than later.
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Post by legendz on Jun 23, 2024 15:48:59 GMT
Possible quarter-final pairings: Armagh v Roscommon or Louth. Dublin v GALWAY OR DERRY. Donegal v GALWAY, DERRY, Roscommon or Louth. Kerry v GALWAY, DERRY or Roscommon.
The GAA might be tempted to draw Roscommon or Louth for Armagh and Galway or Derry for Dublin before the remainder of the draw is completed.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 23, 2024 15:55:46 GMT
Louth are a solid team.
I wanted Cork to win but my late father in law was a Louth man and they've done some incredible work.
How do Kerry rate now given the trimming Kerry gave them.
I think we are in a good place.
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Post by legendz on Jun 23, 2024 16:06:28 GMT
I'd expect Kerry and Donegal will both play on Sunday. Whichever one of us draws Derry or Galway would be expected to be the second game on Sunday. If Kerry get Roscommon, it will most likely be the first quarter-final on Sunday. Unless the GAA decide that Louth must play on Sunday after their win today. Last year they decided Mayo had to play on Sunday. Kerry then had to take on Tyrone on Saturday which wasn't ideal.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 23, 2024 16:07:26 GMT
Louth are the new Clare.
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Post by The16thMan on Jun 23, 2024 16:17:42 GMT
I'd expect Kerry and Donegal will both play on Sunday. Whichever one of us draws Derry or Galway would be expected to be the second game on Sunday. If Kerry get Roscommon, it will most likely be the first quarter-final on Sunday. Unless the GAA decide that Louth must play on Sunday after their win today. Last year they decided Mayo had to play on Sunday. Kerry then had to take on Tyrone on Saturday which wasn't ideal. Louth will play either Armagh or Donegal & Dublin will play either Derry or Galway. I think they'll keep those 2 fixtures apart as they'd probably be the 2 biggest games from a support/attendance point of view.
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Post by southward on Jun 23, 2024 17:03:56 GMT
FFS, Cork, what are ye like? Run Kerry close, beat Donegal and now this.
The worst thing about it is that it's no surprise at all.
Also, 1-9 to 1-8 at this time of year, in this weather, is abysmal.
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Post by homerj on Jun 23, 2024 17:22:28 GMT
We will get Galway and Dublin will get Derry.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 23, 2024 18:09:23 GMT
FFS, Cork, what are ye like? Run Kerry close, beat Donegal and now this. The worst thing about it is that it's no surprise at all. Also, 1-9 to 1-8 at this time of year, in this weather, is abysmal. That's exactly it..... no one is surprised
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 23, 2024 19:46:59 GMT
Louth are a solid team. I wanted Cork to win but my late father in law was a Louth man and they've done some incredible work. How do Kerry rate now given the trimming Kerry gave them. I think we are in a good place. No disrespect to Louth but I think Cork would have beayen them at home or even with a bit more vocal support.Also I think one has to judge each game separate.We trimmed Louth( but barely beat Cork) who beat Donegal( who trimmed Derry )the team who beat Mayo (the team that drew with Dublin).The one thing positive for us is we have been consistent but we have nt met any big guns yet.Next weekend will give us a better picture. Louth also ran Dublin hard for 60 mins and gave Meath a trimming. Louth are not a bad side.
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Post by ciarraigodeo on Jun 23, 2024 20:22:35 GMT
We will get Galway and Dublin will get Derry. That’s the first thing I said after the game today. Things are getting interesting now!
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 23, 2024 20:27:29 GMT
Come on Kerry..
I buried a good man back west on Friday.
Loved Kerry and Castle to his core.
I was very pessimistic earlier in the year but fxxx it... let's rattle them now
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Post by mossie on Jun 24, 2024 0:54:22 GMT
Cork gone and I feel for their players not the Cork supporters.Cork had hardly any support and when the game was in melting pot the crowd drove Louth on.Cork well able to support the footballers v Kerry or in All Ireland finals but they let their footballers down very badly.I remember reading an article where Michael Shiels recalled playing a league game shortly after Cork were All Ireland champs in 2010 and hardly anyone turned up whereas the hurlers had a huge crowd eventhough they had won nothing for 5 years.Shiels felt down about it saying we were heroes a few months earlier. To be frank, the kerry footballers have poor support also with the exception of the home national league matches and unlike Cork football we cant point to the hordes supporting our hurling team like Cork have in hurling
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jun 24, 2024 1:05:49 GMT
That’s it for Louth they’ve had a good run and hopefully will do better going forward Cork. What can be said without being harsh The system where they kept putting their hand in the air to signal intent to patiently build a score was their downfall Like Mayo they simply do not believe in playing any full forward s they passed their way out of the championship today There was loads of pockets of space inside today they didn’t even look up not to mention kick it in They did not run at Louth hardly at all Except for O Callaghan who runs the risk of being forgotten despite being a top class midfielder him and Mahoney pure quality players But Cork showed no ambition today too cagey the most talented team lost today very frustrating How those players bought into that lack of penetration system I don’t know where we’re the scores going to come from ?? Did any one think that through ?? There gone but it was there for them so no sympathy fortune favors the brave .
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jun 24, 2024 1:10:16 GMT
Can someone please post Fitzmaurices article in the examiner
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 24, 2024 7:42:43 GMT
Bring. It. On.
All-Ireland SFC quarter-finals. Armagh v Roscommon. Donegal v Louth. Dublin v Galway. Kerry v Derry.
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Post by Hicser on Jun 24, 2024 7:49:52 GMT
Would we meet the Dubs in the semis?
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Post by homerj on Jun 24, 2024 8:03:11 GMT
Worst possible.draw
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 24, 2024 8:04:21 GMT
In reality if you want to win the All-Ireland you have to play top tier teams.
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Post by homerj on Jun 24, 2024 8:06:48 GMT
In reality if you want to win the All-Ireland you have to play top tier teams. It's common to make finals avoiding them all and they knock each other out. There was 3 possible draws and this was the worst possible. Theyve just gone to Mayo and won ffs
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