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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 8, 2022 19:13:05 GMT
Just a relevant reminder re Donegal 2021 County Final - Managed by Rory Cavanagh, Letterkenny's St Eunans as the young pretenders pretty much controlled the game, beating favourites Naomh Conaill of Glenties, hometown of Jim McGuinness.
My take on it was that Rory conceived of a tactic that had a lot of the hallmarks of the 2014 AI final - so he targeted a few key Conaill's players and with them 'minimised', he tried and succeeded in imposing his style on the game. Few would argue but that Naomh Conaill might have had more football in them but the fresher legs ran 'em into the ground and so they all but fell apart.
Now I didn't hear much talk of it but intentionally or not, Rory certainly put his paw up for managing the county team in that one game alone, though I think he may have been winning the county final at his first stab. Ok we are comparing Club and County but the result kind of speaks for itself. You see I have to cover my ass here, lest I be accused of not admitting to my occasional err!
Unfortunately I didn't make Ballybofey Sunday nor have I had wind of word re Murphy, or indeed anything for that matter. What I can say though is that Eunan's Niall O'Donnell will be a totally different player this year and his 'scruff of the neck' role in the county final was as good as you will see - probably doesn't flatter him to say he would be a leader of a line on any team in the country.
Having been unlucky not to take the defeated AI finalists, Donegal at home did to Cill Dara what we couldn't do to them away, so I wouldn't be wagering the rent money in Fitzgerald stadium on Feb 20, and I'd sense they don't mind Jacko'c's style of play either. That 2019 classic drawn game in Croker might set the stage here a bit and they won't be on a tourist trip for sure, what with the way Ulster is hotting up.
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Post by thehermit on Feb 8, 2022 23:10:17 GMT
I don't suppose TG4 have announced if they are showing the Kerry game Sunday week? I assume they will considering the only other D1 game is Kildare v Tyrone and there's no hurling either.
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Post by kingdomkerry on Feb 8, 2022 23:38:24 GMT
What's the story with Stefan? Would like to see hime get a run out at 6.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 9, 2022 0:28:13 GMT
What's the story with Stefan? Would like to see hime get a run out at 6. Can't see him featuring at all in the league and with so little football that would make it unlikely for him to get a run in the championship.
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Post by Moderator on Feb 9, 2022 6:52:43 GMT
HS posts moved to the "Immigrants from Hoganstand" thread.
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Post by glengael on Feb 9, 2022 11:22:49 GMT
I find the PA system at Fitzgerald Stadium pretty decent, it used to be better, was as clear as a whistle back in the late 90's and early naughties. Killarney is now not the best stadium, yet I love the old world charm of the ground with it's 80's vibe. Sitting on benches that are around 15 inches off the ground with badly freehand painted numbers on them, doesn't look great. Austin Park in Tralee could really do with n upgrade, seeing Dubs coming back from the Dunnes Stores end shed toilets complaining of the facilities and the rough rubble around them, they are right, to me, it's completely unacceptable. I know we are very lucky to have two intercounty grounds, we'd be one of only eight counties out of the 32 that do, yet we'd have the third biggest capacity wise of two grounds outside of Dublin and Cork. It's the upkeep,tidiness, the aesthetics I've a serious problem with, both our pitches are excellent,it's the corner rubble heaps in Austin Stack Park and the ugly ducking gravel pit mound at the Dalton's Avenue end, the benches thry removed there are better than the gravel pit there now at Fitzgerald Stadium, which are embarrassing and eyesores. The stadia throughout Ulster were no go location dump tips in the 70's and 80's during The Troubles. Now they have first class facilities, The Atheletic Grounds in Armagh, Parc Esler in Newry to name but a few, small, but tidy. We are Kerry with 37 All-Ireland Senior Football titles, we should be doing better than that. We should try new ways of making our two historic stadia different and more brilliant. I have ideas on this. Cost effective almost. But for the bigger jobs, we may need a sugar daddy I guess. I do realise the county board are cash strapped after covid now I guess. Is there also not the consideration that Fitzgerald Stadium (as I understand it, I may be misinformed) is not vested/owned/managed by the GAA. It has its own trustees since it was first substantially developed in the 1930's ? I am not sure if this is correct or not but it might impact on funding etc. For a town that is forever going on & on & on about all it has to offer to visitors, Killarney surely underplays its illustrious GAA heritage. I recall reading that observation in a report, possibly from tidy Towns or IBAL some years ago. Leaving aside the Kerry GAA Museum debate of years past, there is very little in Killarney town to demonstrate its unique GAA history. With some imagination, there could be plaques, a tourist trail, maybe a mural of some GAA greats. We have Mons O'Flaherty, noble and all as he was, all over the town in statue, pictures and road named after him. Why not have use a GAA aspect also. The only mural that I know of in Killarney (in the lane beside Dan Linehan's pub) features a GAA player (and our Oscar nominees past and present) . I don't know how many people even know it's there.
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Post by glengael on Feb 9, 2022 11:38:48 GMT
Also to add to my own post, there are acres of land attached to St Finian's Hospital, some of which could be developed for a car park for GAA patrons. I know there is a wider debate about the future of that site of course and given the speed at which that has moved I wouldn't hold my breath. But the parking on the bypass for matches will only last so long as there are plans to change the road layout/Lewis Road junction. From a road safety point of view, the current parking on the bypass situation is an accident waiting to happen. I was there on the day of the McGrath Cup and the volume of people and cars going past at speed in close proximity was frightening to see.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 9, 2022 12:49:49 GMT
I find the PA system at Fitzgerald Stadium pretty decent, it used to be better, was as clear as a whistle back in the late 90's and early naughties. Killarney is now not the best stadium, yet I love the old world charm of the ground with it's 80's vibe. Sitting on benches that are around 15 inches off the ground with badly freehand painted numbers on them, doesn't look great. Austin Park in Tralee could really do with n upgrade, seeing Dubs coming back from the Dunnes Stores end shed toilets complaining of the facilities and the rough rubble around them, they are right, to me, it's completely unacceptable. I know we are very lucky to have two intercounty grounds, we'd be one of only eight counties out of the 32 that do, yet we'd have the third biggest capacity wise of two grounds outside of Dublin and Cork. It's the upkeep,tidiness, the aesthetics I've a serious problem with, both our pitches are excellent,it's the corner rubble heaps in Austin Stack Park and the ugly ducking gravel pit mound at the Dalton's Avenue end, the benches thry removed there are better than the gravel pit there now at Fitzgerald Stadium, which are embarrassing and eyesores. The stadia throughout Ulster were no go location dump tips in the 70's and 80's during The Troubles. Now they have first class facilities, The Atheletic Grounds in Armagh, Parc Esler in Newry to name but a few, small, but tidy. We are Kerry with 37 All-Ireland Senior Football titles, we should be doing better than that. We should try new ways of making our two historic stadia different and more brilliant. I have ideas on this. Cost effective almost. But for the bigger jobs, we may need a sugar daddy I guess. I do realise the county board are cash strapped after covid now I guess. Is there also not the consideration that Fitzgerald Stadium (as I understand it, I may be misinformed) is not vested/owned/managed by the GAA. It has its own trustees since it was first substantially developed in the 1930's ? I am not sure if this is correct or not but it might impact on funding etc. For a town that is forever going on & on & on about all it has to offer to visitors, Killarney surely underplays its illustrious GAA heritage. I recall reading that observation in a report, possibly from tidy Towns or IBAL some years ago. Leaving aside the Kerry GAA Museum debate of years past, there is very little in Killarney town to demonstrate its unique GAA history. With some imagination, there could be plaques, a tourist trail, maybe a mural of some GAA greats. We have Mons O'Flaherty, noble and all as he was, all over the town in statue, pictures and road named after him. Why not have use a GAA aspect also. The only mural that I know of in Killarney (in the lane beside Dan Linehan's pub) features a GAA player (and our Oscar nominees past and present) . I don't know how many people even know it's there. Colm Cooper deserves the Mount Rushmore treatment on Mangerton www.nps.gov/moru/learn/historyculture/why-these-four-presidents.htm
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 9, 2022 13:36:09 GMT
I find the PA system at Fitzgerald Stadium pretty decent, it used to be better, was as clear as a whistle back in the late 90's and early naughties. Killarney is now not the best stadium, yet I love the old world charm of the ground with it's 80's vibe. Sitting on benches that are around 15 inches off the ground with badly freehand painted numbers on them, doesn't look great. Austin Park in Tralee could really do with n upgrade, seeing Dubs coming back from the Dunnes Stores end shed toilets complaining of the facilities and the rough rubble around them, they are right, to me, it's completely unacceptable. I know we are very lucky to have two intercounty grounds, we'd be one of only eight counties out of the 32 that do, yet we'd have the third biggest capacity wise of two grounds outside of Dublin and Cork. It's the upkeep,tidiness, the aesthetics I've a serious problem with, both our pitches are excellent,it's the corner rubble heaps in Austin Stack Park and the ugly ducking gravel pit mound at the Dalton's Avenue end, the benches thry removed there are better than the gravel pit there now at Fitzgerald Stadium, which are embarrassing and eyesores. The stadia throughout Ulster were no go location dump tips in the 70's and 80's during The Troubles. Now they have first class facilities, The Atheletic Grounds in Armagh, Parc Esler in Newry to name but a few, small, but tidy. We are Kerry with 37 All-Ireland Senior Football titles, we should be doing better than that. We should try new ways of making our two historic stadia different and more brilliant. I have ideas on this. Cost effective almost. But for the bigger jobs, we may need a sugar daddy I guess. I do realise the county board are cash strapped after covid now I guess. Is there also not the consideration that Fitzgerald Stadium (as I understand it, I may be misinformed) is not vested/owned/managed by the GAA. It has its own trustees since it was first substantially developed in the 1930's ? I am not sure if this is correct or not but it might impact on funding etc. For a town that is forever going on & on & on about all it has to offer to visitors, Killarney surely underplays its illustrious GAA heritage. I recall reading that observation in a report, possibly from tidy Towns or IBAL some years ago. Leaving aside the Kerry GAA Museum debate of years past, there is very little in Killarney town to demonstrate its unique GAA history. With some imagination, there could be plaques, a tourist trail, maybe a mural of some GAA greats. We have Mons O'Flaherty, noble and all as he was, all over the town in statue, pictures and road named after him. Why not have use a GAA aspect also. The only mural that I know of in Killarney (in the lane beside Dan Linehan's pub) features a GAA player (and our Oscar nominees past and present) . I don't know how many people even know it's there. I'd say Killarney knows how to do tourism like nobody else; is it that they are sensitive to the global tourist, hardly a GAA market?
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Post by glengael on Feb 9, 2022 13:43:33 GMT
Yes, Killarney does certain things very well for overseas visitor. My point is that they are missing a trick here. Plenty of Irish people visit Killarney, many in the shoulder seasons in the autumn/spring. If there was a GAA offering of some sort for them, it would add to their experience.
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Post by piggott on Feb 9, 2022 14:02:27 GMT
Plenty visitors went to Fitzgerald Stadium to watch Kerry team train. Suppose that day is gone.
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Post by dc84 on Feb 9, 2022 14:15:50 GMT
Plenty visitors went to Fitzgerald Stadium to watch Kerry team train. Suppose that day is gone. Is that tree still standing that the Donegal tourist climbed by accident in 2014? Could be one of the stops on a kerry gaa trail, also the pub that gooch and Tomas drank in 09 before getting dropped for sligo game. Jesus how did we win that year !
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 9, 2022 18:07:41 GMT
Plenty visitors went to Fitzgerald Stadium to watch Kerry team train. Suppose that day is gone. Is that tree still standing that the Donegal tourist climbed by accident in 2014? Could be one of the stops on a kerry gaa trail, also the pub that gooch and Tomas drank in 09 before getting dropped for sligo game. Jesus how did we win that year ! 'The Donegal Special Branch' it was. 'Cooper & Ó Sé Faced Jacks' was the pub. Royalty on naming rights to the KFDF, Kerry Footballers Drinking Fund.
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Post by clarinman on Feb 9, 2022 19:11:38 GMT
Plenty visitors went to Fitzgerald Stadium to watch Kerry team train. Suppose that day is gone. Is that tree still standing that the Donegal tourist climbed by accident in 2014? Could be one of the stops on a kerry gaa trail, also the pub that gooch and Tomas drank in 09 before getting dropped for sligo game. Jesus how did we win that year ! Gooch and Tomas played against Sligo in 2009. It was after that game that they went drinking and they were dropped for the following game against Antrim in Tullamore. Both came on as subs that day.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 9, 2022 20:18:28 GMT
the 2009 game v Sligo is here
Jack's second coming
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Post by dc84 on Feb 9, 2022 20:55:36 GMT
the 2009 game v Sligo is here Jack's second coming That was so hairy jeez I know sligo were ok at that stage but I couldn't understand playing that game in tralee thank god for Diarmuid Murphy and that peno save!
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Post by thehermit on Feb 10, 2022 10:26:22 GMT
the 2009 game v Sligo is here Jack's second coming Fair play to you Mick for finding and posting up these videos. Brings back some scary memories. I used work weekend's back then up in the big smoke, so had to settle for watching it on the sofa with a couple of Kerry friends. We drank our fill that night in sweet relief. The trip to Tullamore the week after wasn't too encouraging either but the roar in the train back when the draw put us up against Dublin made me feel we might be about to spring to life and that we did emphatically
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 11, 2022 12:26:40 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 11, 2022 12:55:51 GMT
Tis a long road bally. There is goodwill towards Kerry in my opinion over what happened. Tyrone may find that there isnt any towards them. They have started off with 4 red cards. When did you see that ever happening? Lets see how successful they are at the appeals process.
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Post by Corner Back on Feb 11, 2022 13:40:20 GMT
[quote author=" dc84" That was so hairy jeez I know sligo were ok at that stage but I couldn't understand playing that game in tralee thank god for Diarmuid Murphy and that peno save![/quote] It was played in Tralee as The pu$$y Cat Dolls were playing a concert in Fitzgerald Stadium! They would have been blamed for a lot if we lost!!
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Post by dc84 on Feb 11, 2022 15:10:35 GMT
[quote author=" dc84" That was so hairy jeez I know sligo were ok at that stage but I couldn't understand playing that game in tralee thank god for Diarmuid Murphy and that peno save! It was played in Tralee as The pu$$y Cat Dolls were playing a concert in Fitzgerald Stadium! They would have been blamed for a lot if we lost!! [/quote] Had forgotten that part
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 11, 2022 15:20:38 GMT
In the last two Sigerson Cup games,. Mike Breen has failed to line out, does anyone know the extent of his hamstring injury, I thought JOC said he would be fit for the Donegal game.
Seeing as he has no ball kicked in three weeks or so, I envisage he lining out next weekend is looking less likely?
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Post by thepromisedland on Feb 11, 2022 23:07:04 GMT
Tis a long road bally. There is goodwill towards Kerry in my opinion over what happened. Tyrone may find that there isnt any towards them. They have started off with 4 red cards. When did you see that ever happening? Lets see how successful they are at the appeals process. Absolutely Mickmack. While I've a great time and highly respect the Tyrone team of the early to mid naughties, you only have to go back to their disgraceful behaviour v Tipperary in the All-Ireland U20 match in 2015, when the Tipperary manager would not let the Tyrone captain into their dressingroom afterwards the game in which Tyrone won disgracefully in such unsporting circumstances. I just hope down the line, we'll be remembered for our goodwill, even up in Mayo, a county that's not fond of us at all, as i only know too well, working up there during every week, they told me last September, that it was really good form of us in accommodating Tyrone, much to our detriment in the end. Would Tyrone have done what we did? Not a snowballs chance in hell! as Micheál O' Heir used to say. Whether we win the All-Ireland in 2022 or any other county, one thing's for certain, Tyrone will most DEFINITELY not win it anyway. They have never, and are incapable in doing back to back All-Ireland's together. Eventhough I'm not a betting man at all, I'd put my car and my job as a bet that they won't win it this year. A friend of mine convinced me that they will win it, when I proposed a bet of €279!! as a bet that they will not, he pulled out immediately and changed the subject. Important to call some people's bluff. Tyrone 2021, were for me, the worst, weakest of a the All-Ireland winners since Cork back in 2010. Anyway, As far as an exile like me is concerned, Day out of Kerry, is a day wasted!! Mayo for work during the week, The Promised Land at weekends for living.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 11, 2022 23:21:25 GMT
Tis a long road bally. There is goodwill towards Kerry in my opinion over what happened. Tyrone may find that there isnt any towards them. They have started off with 4 red cards. When did you see that ever happening? Lets see how successful they are at the appeals process. Absolutely Mickmack. While I've a great time and highly respect the Tyrone team of the early to mid naughties, you only have to go back to their disgraceful behaviour v Tipperary in the All-Ireland U20 match in 2015, when the Tipperary manager would not let the Tyrone captain into their dressingroom afterwards the game in which Tyrone won disgracefully in such unsporting circumstances. I just hope down the line, we'll be remembered for our goodwill, even up in Mayo, a county that's not fond of us at all, as i only know too well, working up there during every week, they told me last September, that it was really good form of us in accommodating Tyrone, much to our detriment in the end. Would Tyrone have done what we did? Not a snowballs chance in hell! as Micheál O' Heir used to say. Whether we win the All-Ireland in 2022 or any other county, one thing's for certain, Tyrone will most DEFINITELY not win it anyway. They have never, and are incapable in doing back to back All-Ireland's together. Eventhough I'm not a betting man at all, I'd put my car and my job as a bet that they won't win it this year. A friend of mine convinced me that they will win it, when I proposed a bet of €279!! as a bet that they will not, he pulled out immediately and changed the subject. Important to call some people's bluff. Tyrone 2021, were for me, the worst, weakest of a the All-Ireland winners since Cork back in 2010. Anyway, As far as an exile like me is concerned, Day out of Kerry, is a day wasted!! Mayo for work during the week, The Promised Land at weekends for living. I'd be of similar sentiment though we are all entitled to our view on things. Writing off anyone is music to their ears and as regards a bet, I'd hang onto my car, they were 9/1 with the bookies the last time I looked. Mayo GAA folk will always entertain both on and off the field though they are a breed apart alright, like us all! I know a Mayo man who claims he was born twice but sin scéal eile, literally, maybe he was one of the children of the two teeth? As for cards, we have a few ourselves now but I wouldn't be too worried about 'em once we have our health and may the best team win and may that be An Contae Chiarraí!
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Post by greenandgold on Feb 12, 2022 18:34:37 GMT
I assume tickets will go on sale for Donegal match? Any insights on when- lots of interest from the smallies having watched the Dublin game- great to encourage the interest in the next generation😁
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Post by thehermit on Feb 12, 2022 19:59:16 GMT
Tis a long road bally. There is goodwill towards Kerry in my opinion over what happened. Tyrone may find that there isnt any towards them. They have started off with 4 red cards. When did you see that ever happening? Lets see how successful they are at the appeals process. Absolutely Mickmack. While I've a great time and highly respect the Tyrone team of the early to mid naughties, you only have to go back to their disgraceful behaviour v Tipperary in the All-Ireland U20 match in 2015, when the Tipperary manager would not let the Tyrone captain into their dressingroom afterwards the game in which Tyrone won disgracefully in such unsporting circumstances. I just hope down the line, we'll be remembered for our goodwill, even up in Mayo, a county that's not fond of us at all, as i only know too well, working up there during every week, they told me last September, that it was really good form of us in accommodating Tyrone, much to our detriment in the end. Would Tyrone have done what we did? Not a snowballs chance in hell! as Micheál O' Heir used to say. Whether we win the All-Ireland in 2022 or any other county, one thing's for certain, Tyrone will most DEFINITELY not win it anyway. They have never, and are incapable in doing back to back All-Ireland's together. Eventhough I'm not a betting man at all, I'd put my car and my job as a bet that they won't win it this year. A friend of mine convinced me that they will win it, when I proposed a bet of €279!! as a bet that they will not, he pulled out immediately and changed the subject. Important to call some people's bluff. Tyrone 2021, were for me, the worst, weakest of a the All-Ireland winners since Cork back in 2010. Anyway, As far as an exile like me is concerned, Day out of Kerry, is a day wasted!! Mayo for work during the week, The Promised Land at weekends for living. Don't forget the minor semi in 2013 against us as well, to send teenagers out to play that cynicism crap - disgraceful.
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Post by thehermit on Feb 12, 2022 20:00:52 GMT
I assume tickets will go on sale for Donegal match? Any insights on when- lots of interest from the smallies having watched the Dublin game- great to encourage the interest in the next generation😁 Tickets for all the remaining games are actually on sale since midweek on the gaa/Ticketmaster website
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Post by Corner Back on Feb 12, 2022 20:03:20 GMT
It is possible that all four division one games will be shown live next weekend as they are all on at different times. The only one I would have doubts about is Armagh Monaghan at 5.30 on Saturday
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Post by brucewayne on Feb 12, 2022 23:42:19 GMT
It is possible that all four division one games will be shown live next weekend as they are all on at different times. The only one I would have doubts about is Armagh Monaghan at 5.30 on Saturday Maybe BBC might have it?
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Post by Fado on Feb 13, 2022 0:17:22 GMT
GAA League fixtures live on BBC iPlayer and the BBC Sport NI website Saturday 29 January - Derry v Down (Division Two football) 18:00 GMT
Saturday 5 February - Down v Galway (Division Two football) 17:00 GMT
Saturday 12 February - Antrim v Dublin (Division One hurling) 14:00 GMT
Saturday 19 February - Armagh v Monaghan (Division One football) 17:30 GMT
Saturday 26 February - Down v Roscommon (Division Two football) 17:00 GMT
Saturday 12 March - Armagh v Kildare (Division One football) 18:00 GMT
Saturday 19 March - Down v Kerry (Division Two hurling) 14:00 GMT
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