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Post by mike70 on Feb 10, 2022 23:40:52 GMT
I do indeed know that, I didn't come down in the last shower!! What I'm saying is that Jack is long enough in the tooth at this stage to get on with the game, stop complaining and reacting to everything that goes on and punish the opposition with his undoubted skills. As I highlighted earlier in this thread, if Jack doesn't learn to get on with the game and forget about getting involved with match officials and opponents, he'll always be a liability to the teams that he's on. After his 3 yellows and a red this evening, my own opinion is that he'll never learn that at this stage, and that could cost him from displaying his skills at a higher level. What a waste of his talents if he continues like this. just reading back your posts, seem a bit harsh in savage, DM was gone before him and what Tony did was far worse than any yellow, when you take out your paint brush, try to make even strokes, looks like your targeting the man. Anyway when you try play the game without protection , sometimes it gets frustrating, if you were not at the game, I can tell you the lads were constantly checked off the ball, very frustrating on them all, constant it was. |
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Post by kerryexile on Feb 11, 2022 0:37:06 GMT
I thought Hayes the referee couldn't get into the rhythm of the game and couldn't make balanced judgements on tackles, even from the very start. He ended up blowing everything. "Overly fastidious" to quote Billy O'Shea. Disappointing result.
In the other game I thought David was carrying a minor injury to his right leg and he was happy to let his teammates take the game to DCU. He stepped up 3 times when required. Firstly to get them going he pointed from 45. Then when DCU looked like doing their usual trick of getting unanswered points in the 2nd half he intervened and scored at the other end. Their momentum was broken Finally near the end he made and took scores to get the win. It's a long time since I saw a GAA player swarmed like he was seconds after the final whistle.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Feb 11, 2022 0:58:15 GMT
The UL/DCU game was very enjoyable. David Clifford hit some beautiful scores and was mobbed by youngsters after and it makes you very proud that he's a Kerry man. Donal OSullivan was excellent with a great score in the FH. One player I won't name looks a little out of shape. Even my nine year old said it when he came on. To quote him he asked who was the 'fat fella'. |
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Post by allrounder on Feb 11, 2022 9:10:57 GMT
0-18 to 0-15 to NUIG - Dara Moynihan & Jack Savage both sent off on 2 yellows, Tony Brosnan straight red all in final 3 mins!! Ref lost control completely. Dara was stupid but the guy who started pushing him should have been booked aswell. Jack was saying that to the ref and got a second yellow for dissent and then Tony just took out his frustration. While I don’t condone what Tony did, the ref was a shambles and he just lost his temper You must have been very close to the action to be able to hear what Jack said. |
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 11, 2022 9:25:52 GMT
Dara Moynihan was fouled in possession.... very frustrating i know....but the right thing for the team trying to work an equalising goal was to keep the head. He didnt. He then kicked the ball away.
Jack Savage was never going to persuade the ref to change his mind. When did you see that happening. He kept yapping.
Brosnan threw his man to the ground and going by Gough last week it looks like refs have been told to apply red card to that.
Nuig won the game three times if you like. Tralee fought back heroically twice and were coming again but time was against them.
The ref gave them every chance to draw it at the end of normal time...which they did.
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Post by jackiel on Feb 11, 2022 9:28:56 GMT
Disappointing finish for MTU, they might have been better off if Jack hadn't brought them to extra time ,they never seemed in danger of winning.
I'd say JOC will be having a word about indiscipline with the 3 lads, they've plenty of game time under their belts to know better.
Isn't it great to see DC swamped, he is very gracious with those wanting selfies etc. My friend's daughter (Dublin fanatic) got a photo with him on Saturday night, it made her day.
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Post by thehermit on Feb 11, 2022 9:34:35 GMT
Fair play to the Siergerson Cup for putting both games on youtube for free. Was looking forward to some top quality football but alas the first semi-final would remind you of a Jim McGuinness and Mickey Harte team going at each other in a league game. Dour stuff. MTU did well to force extra time but after a relatively bright first 20 mins they can't have too many complaints. Their scoring return was woeful.
Agree it looks very bad to see the Kerry lads being sent off with the game already lost to boot.
Hopefully UL win it out and David gets another medal to his collection - please God he'll complete his set this summer too.
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Post by mike70 on Feb 11, 2022 10:29:44 GMT
On last nights game I would have to fancy NUIG, but the Clifford factor is huge, but I feel the supporting cast around David not where the Galway boys are, I expect Galway to be as tactful as they were last night, a good final in store , NUIG V UL(C) 🙈
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 11, 2022 11:17:11 GMT
Ref lost control completely. Dara was stupid but the guy who started pushing him should have been booked aswell. Jack was saying that to the ref and got a second yellow for dissent and then Tony just took out his frustration. While I don’t condone what Tony did, the ref was a shambles and he just lost his temper You must have been very close to the action to be able to hear what Jack said. Electric Ireland were doing a ref cam |
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Feb 11, 2022 19:04:41 GMT
It was good to see Tralee doing well this year but the fact that 4 out of the 6 starting forwards for Tralee are over 25 seems a bit unusual for a third level competition. Maybe it’s the case with all teams and a sign of the times with people staying in study longer.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 11, 2022 19:11:04 GMT
It was good to see Tralee doing well this year but the fact that 4 out of the 6 starting forwards for Tralee are over 25 seems a bit unusual for a third level competition. Maybe it’s the case with all teams and a sign of the times with people staying in study longer. I would guess mature rather than longer. |
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Post by southward on Feb 11, 2022 19:16:33 GMT
It was good to see Tralee doing well this year but the fact that 4 out of the 6 starting forwards for Tralee are over 25 seems a bit unusual for a third level competition. Maybe it’s the case with all teams and a sign of the times with people staying in study longer. I would guess mature rather than longer. Yep. Or maybe another way to look at it, colleges bolstering their teams by recruiting elite players? Personally, I think there should be an age-limit, maybe 23/24? |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 11, 2022 19:19:53 GMT
I certainly hope its David Clifford's last year playing Sigerson or at the very least the GAA step in and correctly manage player welfare because you can't leave it up to managers.
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 12, 2022 0:23:35 GMT
I would guess mature rather than longer. Yep. Or maybe another way to look at it, colleges bolstering their teams by recruiting elite players? Personally, I think there should be an age-limit, maybe 23/24? Or limit it to undergraduates (or students doing a course of three or more years duration) - a lot of the older players are doing post graduate courses and the number doing post grads is increasing each year. |
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Post by dc84 on Feb 12, 2022 10:03:53 GMT
Scrap the pre seasons and play off the sigerson prior to league its the only answer. Realisticly speaking most players these days you would want to get a look at in the mcgrath are with colleges anyway so it's fairly pointless.
Some of the commentary from ex players on this is odd though saying colleges should have first pick and if you are involved with them then county takes 2nd place I find that crazy thinking no guarantee with some of the younger lads that they would get a place in the squad I know which team id chose to play for Grant or no grant!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 12, 2022 11:43:10 GMT
Scrap the pre seasons and play off the sigerson prior to league its the only answer. Realisticly speaking most players these days you would want to get a look at in the mcgrath are with colleges anyway so it's fairly pointless. Some of the commentary from ex players on this is odd though saying colleges should have first pick and if you are involved with them then county takes 2nd place I find that crazy thinking no guarantee with some of the younger lads that they would get a place in the squad I know which team id chose to play for Grant or no grant! The message I hear consistently is that players like the Sigerson and Fitzgibbon. |
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 12, 2022 12:10:43 GMT
Scrap the pre seasons and play off the sigerson prior to league its the only answer. Realisticly speaking most players these days you would want to get a look at in the mcgrath are with colleges anyway so it's fairly pointless. Some of the commentary from ex players on this is odd though saying colleges should have first pick and if you are involved with them then county takes 2nd place I find that crazy thinking no guarantee with some of the younger lads that they would get a place in the squad I know which team id chose to play for Grant or no grant! The message I hear consistently is that players like the Sigerson and Fitzgibbon. Very evident from the body language and effort. |
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Post by dc84 on Feb 12, 2022 12:32:46 GMT
I get that but it is a very small amount of players each year, and the national league which is the 2nd most important competition in the gaa calendar shouldn't play 2nd fiddle to it imo.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 16, 2022 9:06:50 GMT
7.30 on TG4 tonight.
Best wishes to UL.
They are in the Fitzgibbon final too. The football goalie is corner forward for the hurling team
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Post by clarinman on Feb 16, 2022 10:50:06 GMT
7.30 on TG4 tonight. Best wishes to UL. They are in the Fitzgibbon final too. The football goalie is corner forward for the hurling team UL not in the Fitzgibbon final yet Mick. They play semi final against IT Carlow tomorrow. All Galway semi final in Fitzgibbon Cup at 2 this afternoon - NUIG vs GMIT. Free live stream www.youtube.com/HigherEdGAA |
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horsebox77
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 16, 2022 13:28:04 GMT
It will be a nasty night for a game tonight.
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Post by mike70 on Feb 16, 2022 14:37:34 GMT
Pity they did not move the final indoors. 🛖
I know it’s planned in advance, but nights like this is what the Dome is for💨☔️🌧💨
I fancy NUIG.
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Post by 63587614 on Feb 16, 2022 15:00:38 GMT
Agreed
Playing finals in wet n wind is not where our game is gone. Especially with all the money around.
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Post by givehimaball on Feb 16, 2022 19:27:54 GMT
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 16, 2022 20:28:48 GMT
This is an awful game.
UL completely outclassed so far.
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Post by mike70 on Feb 16, 2022 20:36:45 GMT
Penalty was very soft, but well put away by David
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Post by taggert on Feb 16, 2022 20:42:53 GMT
Very poor display by David, by his standards.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 16, 2022 20:49:19 GMT
Very poor display by David, by his standards. He looked tired. Is it any wonder. |
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Post by john4 on Feb 16, 2022 20:50:47 GMT
Fair result. Nuig the better team. Worked harder. Fitter.
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 16, 2022 20:52:05 GMT
Well that was an hour of my life I'll never get back, Christ it was poor fair. I suppose we can blame the conditions to a degree.
DC was poor by his standards, or do we expect too much?
Donal O'Sullivan didn't set the world on fire either bar the one burst and point from play - he over carried the ball three or four times in first half
I'm thinking now that we should maybe rest DC on Sunday.
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