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Post by givehimaball on Dec 20, 2021 13:38:52 GMT
Group 2 Kerry v Limerick – Wednesday January 5th at 7pm in Austin Stack Park Tralee
Limerick v Tipperary – Sunday January 9th at 2pm in Mick Neville Park Rathkeale
Tipperary v Kerry – Wednesday January 12th at 7pm in Dr. Morris Park Thurles
Final – Group 1 winners v Group 2 winners – Saturday January 15th
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Dec 25, 2021 14:42:13 GMT
Is there any talk about the games being streamed?
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Post by homerj on Dec 26, 2021 10:20:17 GMT
Is there any talk about the games being streamed? youd imagine this will be based on any new announcements from governement in the coming days. if no crowds allowed, they will be streamed id say.
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Post by mossie on Dec 26, 2021 11:43:21 GMT
Is there any talk about the games being streamed? youd imagine this will be based on any new announcements from governement in the coming days. if no crowds allowed, they will be streamed id say. no crowds at matches ? feck is that really coming/
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Post by horsebox77 on Dec 27, 2021 17:38:48 GMT
With NK eventually over, looking ahead to the McGrath Cup, it’s fairly challenging to pick a fringe team less, regulars and the club tied Stacks and Na Gaeil players that have been added to the county panel. As a result of the club tied players, I think a few initially outside the group may be given a stint to show their worth.
Would like to see something along these lines take the field, Murphy, Dan O’Donoghue, Graham Sullivan, Cormac Coffey, Shane Cronin, Mike Breen, Daniel O’Brien, Paul O’Shea, Mark Foley, Donal O’Sullivan, Jack Savage, Eddie Horan, Liam Carey, Tony Brosnan, Dara Roche
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 27, 2021 18:24:08 GMT
I doubt Jack will have any players from outside the panel involved. Surely any player he has interest in is involved with the panel. I’d imagine all the new panellists not from Stacks and Na Gaeil will start as well as some fringe players that are still involved from last year like Graham O’Sullivan, Paul O’Shea, and the likes of Ronan Buckley and Brian Leonard if they’re still involved. A few experienced players will probably be needed to make up the rest of the team.
Also horse is that Shane Cronin rather than Evan Cronin you have at wing back? Evan Cronin is a corner forward.
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Post by horsebox77 on Dec 27, 2021 20:11:35 GMT
Apologies yes, I've edited my original post
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 27, 2021 20:46:15 GMT
Fairly sure that Cormac wasn’t called in.
You’d have to feel sorry for a few of the stacks lads, I bet you never expected to hear me say that, but they won’t get an opportunity in the early matches as they are away with the club and by the time they get back it may be too late as a pattern of team selection may have been established.
Dylan Casey should be alright but someone like jack o Shea would really benefit from gettin a go in the McGrath cup and being eased in
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Post by horsebox77 on Dec 27, 2021 21:11:35 GMT
Fairly sure that Cormac wasn’t called in. You’d have to feel sorry for a few of the stacks lads, I bet you never expected to hear me say that, but they won’t get an opportunity in the early matches as they are away with the club and by the time they get back it may be too late as a pattern of team selection may have been established. Dylan Casey should be alright but someone like jack o Shea would really benefit from gettin a go in the McGrath cup and being eased in I think it’s more important for the likes of Paul O’Shea etc to establish himself or the Mike Breen’s of the world to build on from last year. Similar of i was someone like Tadgh Morley that was established but fallen down the pecking order, I’d be ringing Jack ansd be putting my hand up for a McGrath Cup place to put my name to the forefront of My managers thoughts, It’s a blank canvas or clean slate … I see no reason why Morley couldn’t be repositioned to number 6. He was solid there and only moved back to the square as an interim measure but with the showing of Foley last year and the emergence of Dylan on the scene we now have options inside.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 27, 2021 21:17:48 GMT
Fairly sure that Cormac wasn’t called in. You’d have to feel sorry for a few of the stacks lads, I bet you never expected to hear me say that, but they won’t get an opportunity in the early matches as they are away with the club and by the time they get back it may be too late as a pattern of team selection may have been established. Dylan Casey should be alright but someone like jack o Shea would really benefit from gettin a go in the McGrath cup and being eased in I think it’s more important for the likes of Paul O’Shea etc to establish himself or the Mike Breen’s of the world to build on from last year. Similar of i was someone like Tadgh Morley that was established but fallen down the pecking order, I’d be ringing Jack ansd be putting my hand up for a McGrath Cup place to put my name to the forefront of My managers thoughts, It’s a blank canvas or clean slate … I see no reason why Morley couldn’t be repositioned to number 6. He was solid there and only moved back to the square as an interim measure but with the showing of Foley last year and the emergence of Dylan on the scene we now have options inside. I’ve got to be honest with you, I think the clamour for Paul o Shea is a bit over the top at the moment. He doesn’t start for east Kerry and he looked like a good player but with fairly average decision making at under 20 intercounty level. He reminds me a bit of Barry John Walsh before he went to San Fran in terms of how he is able to use his physicality to dominate underage games
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 27, 2021 22:42:09 GMT
I think it’s more important for the likes of Paul O’Shea etc to establish himself or the Mike Breen’s of the world to build on from last year. Similar of i was someone like Tadgh Morley that was established but fallen down the pecking order, I’d be ringing Jack ansd be putting my hand up for a McGrath Cup place to put my name to the forefront of My managers thoughts, It’s a blank canvas or clean slate … I see no reason why Morley couldn’t be repositioned to number 6. He was solid there and only moved back to the square as an interim measure but with the showing of Foley last year and the emergence of Dylan on the scene we now have options inside. I’ve got to be honest with you, I think the clamour for Paul o Shea is a bit over the top at the moment. He doesn’t start for east Kerry and he looked like a good player but with fairly average decision making at under 20 intercounty level. He reminds me a bit of Barry John Walsh before he went to San Fran in terms of how he is able to use his physicality to dominate underage games My worry with Paul O’Shea is more his defensive work rate. He certainly has that languid or lazy style like his cousin but I thought it was particularly evident in the u20 game against Cork that he’d leave an opponent run past him without much of an effort to stop them. I don’t know is it down to fitness or mindset but that will be exposed at Senior level. Midfield is by far his best position but neither John Sugrue or Declan deployed him there. My conclusion to that would be that they were worried about him defensively. I wouldn’t agree on the physicality point. He’s not that big really, around 6 foot or 6 foot 1. The players he’d be coming up against would be well able for him physically. He’s a very gifted footballer, I think there’s no denying that. A brilliant fielder and an outstanding kick passer. His reading game of the game I think sets him apart and in fairness there is a bit of bite and an edge to him too. I wouldn’t read into him not starting for East Kerry, they’d such little preparation O’Sullivan just went for the players he had before. All out main midfielders will be unavailable for the McGrath Cup and maybe the start of the league so he should definitely have a great chance to make a statement and show what he can do.
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Post by horsebox77 on Dec 27, 2021 23:03:34 GMT
Jez, he's more than 6 foot having stood beside him, he's an imposing unit. I would think he's along the 6' 2" mark.
I ask also think club championship will half rob us of Joe and Diarmuid O'Connor, Jack Barry, Stefan and Greg Horan.
Moran if included this yesr will not be considered either way for McGrath or early league. Others like Liam Kearney can never get an injury free run. Ranan Buckley, my jury is still out, So agree there is early year places up for grabs in certain key areas.
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Post by hatchetman on Dec 28, 2021 1:06:25 GMT
Who's Paul O'Shea's cousin?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Dec 28, 2021 1:52:22 GMT
Who's Paul O'Shea's cousin? David Clifford
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 28, 2021 11:19:43 GMT
Who's Paul O'Shea's cousin? David Clifford Must be Spanish Armada blood somewhere in the family
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 28, 2021 11:30:10 GMT
Jez, he's more than 6 foot having stood beside him, he's an imposing unit. I would think he's along the 6' 2" mark. I ask also think club championship will half rob us of Joe and Diarmuid O'Connor, Jack Barry, Stefan and Greg Horan. Moran if included this yesr will not be considered either way for McGrath or early league. Others like Liam Kearney can never get an injury free run. Ranan Buckley, my jury is still out, So agree there is early year places up for grabs in certain key areas. You’re right, I probably took an inch or two from him alright. 6’ 2” is about right I’d say. He has enough height to compete at midfield at inter county level anyway I would think. Moran is injured from the county final so that’s all our midfield options bar Paul O’Shea and Adrian Spillane unavailable. Great chance for those two to perform and put themselves in Jack’s thoughts. Ronan Buckley I’d view more as a wing forward. Based on what he’s shown with East Kerry he’s a much better footballer than what he’s shown with Kerry. If his confidence increases I think he could be an option as there seems to be hardly any physical wing forwards on the panel. Graham O’Sullivan is another one as well as Paul O’Shea who this year will be very interesting for. He’s been getting a few league starts and a few appearances in championship for the last 3 years without really establishing himself. I think his best chance is at wing back rather than corner back as he’s a bit loose for the corner and we’ve a lot of options there now. Jack had him playing excellently at centre back at u20 level. His ball carrying and scoring were very prominent at the time but we haven’t seen that from him since even when he’s played with Kerry, South Kerry or UCC. There’s definitely talent there and Jack should know him well as a fellow club man.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2021 11:41:38 GMT
Must be Spanish Armada blood somewhere in the family Jack O'Shea from Stacks is also a cousin of the Clifford's/Paul O'Shea.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 28, 2021 16:12:57 GMT
Must be Spanish Armada blood somewhere in the family Jack O'Shea from Stacks is also a cousin of the Clifford's/Paul O'Shea. Both parents are from Caherciveen i think...any relation to the 'original Jacko'.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 28, 2021 16:35:35 GMT
I am long around here to remember Donacha Walsh being dismissed completely by some posters when he joined the panel.
He developed into a hugely effective player for Kerry.
There are two conflicting goals....trying to find players that can slot in straight away to get Kerry over the line in 2022 and secondly to bring on and develop young players like Donnacha at aged 20.
Jack will probably put the second goal on the long finger if for nothing more than to buy time and shut up the begrudgers.....so i expect any player that he brings in now will be expected to hit the ground running.
What did Kerry lack most in PGs reign..... by far and away the biggest deficit was not turning possession into scores......and worse still...being blindly sucked into the opposition gameplan.
Having players who can kick points from distance would solve a lot of Kerrys problems. If Kerry were able to kick 6 such points v Tyrone it would have been enough. Paul oShea and Jack Savage have that ability.
Even kicking it wide is better that being turned over.
I think Kerry will play quite a different type of game in 2022. It may not be as pretty as under PG but its about conceeding less and scoring more.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 28, 2021 16:44:30 GMT
Firstly Happy Christmas To All,
One of the factors that all counties will have to plan for is Covid.
Looking at the impact on premiership and the rugby it could play a big part in the GAA too.
With that in mind we need to have as many back up options as possible so the Mcgrath Cup should be used to maximise this.
I really hope we don't see games behind closed doors again that would be very disappointing.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 28, 2021 17:18:32 GMT
Jack O'Shea from Stacks is also a cousin of the Clifford's/Paul O'Shea. Both parents are from Caherciveen i think...any relation to the 'original Jacko'. His father is from currow/currans area, not sure on his mother
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Post by john4 on Dec 28, 2021 17:41:20 GMT
Anyone know the story with tickets for next Wednesday night in Tralee v Limerick. With reduced capacity of 5k this could sell out!
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 28, 2021 18:56:01 GMT
Both parents are from Caherciveen i think...any relation to the 'original Jacko'. His father is from currow/currans area, not sure on his mother I think i have my wires crossed there. Is it Dylan Casey that i am thinking of?
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Post by southward on Dec 28, 2021 19:06:35 GMT
Anyone know the story with tickets for next Wednesday night in Tralee v Limerick. With reduced capacity of 5k this could sell out! I'd be shocked if a McGrath Cup game ever sold out.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 28, 2021 19:17:46 GMT
His father is from currow/currans area, not sure on his mother I think i have my wires crossed there. Is it Dylan Casey that i am thinking of? I think so, his old man is defo a Marys man
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2021 20:41:43 GMT
Both parents are from Caherciveen i think...any relation to the 'original Jacko'. His father is from currow/currans area, not sure on his mother isn't the Clifford's grandfather O'Shea from Ballymac, I heard him interviewed earlier on in the year on radio kerry I think it was , Currans and Ballymac would be in close proximity of 1 another, but I'm pretty sure there is a family connection.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 28, 2021 20:54:59 GMT
His father is from currow/currans area, not sure on his mother isn't the Clifford's grandfather O'Shea from Ballymac, I heard him interviewed earlier on in the year on radio kerry I think it was , Currans and Ballymac would be in close proximity of 1 another, but I'm pretty sure there is a family connection. Jack O Shea’s father is 100% from currans, I know the man. They live in ballymac now so maybe his mother is from there and I’ve no idea of her maidan name
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2021 21:29:18 GMT
isn't the Clifford's grandfather O'Shea from Ballymac, I heard him interviewed earlier on in the year on radio kerry I think it was , Currans and Ballymac would be in close proximity of 1 another, but I'm pretty sure there is a family connection. Jack O Shea’s father is 100% from currans, I know the man. They live in ballymac now so maybe his mother is from there and I’ve no idea of her maidan name sound kerrybhoy 👍
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Post by mike70 on Dec 30, 2021 15:43:05 GMT
Let’s hope we get a McGrath cup next week and that we don’t get any further restrictions.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 30, 2021 15:47:45 GMT
All of the McGrath cup games are being steamed live on clubber.ie too which is great especially for the one away to Tipperary.
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