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Post by kodie on Dec 4, 2019 16:24:58 GMT
Kerry squad assembled yesterday in preparation for next year - returning to the fold are Cormac Coffey, Pa Kilkenny and Mike Potts - new faces in Tony Brosnan, Paudie Clifford, Sean T Dillon, Adam Donoghue, John M Foley, Eoghan O'Brien and Barry O'Mahony - McGrath Cup up first on 29th Dec when many of the squad will be in Thailand. Are the team back full time training now? I find it very early or maybe it's time enough to start again? |
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Post by southward on Dec 4, 2019 19:25:11 GMT
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Post by greengold35 on Dec 4, 2019 19:44:38 GMT
Kerry squad assembled yesterday in preparation for next year - returning to the fold are Cormac Coffey, Pa Kilkenny and Mike Potts - new faces in Tony Brosnan, Paudie Clifford, Sean T Dillon, Adam Donoghue, John M Foley, Eoghan O'Brien and Barry O'Mahony - McGrath Cup up first on 29th Dec when many of the squad will be in Thailand. Are the team back full time training now? I find it very early or maybe it's time enough to start again? It’s 8 weeks to National league throw in with 7 games then in a 9 week period - think the consensus now is that the workload is too great what with heavy pitches/travelling away etc if training did not start earlier than usual - throw in a 2 week period in Jan for the majority of these guys & thats 6 weeks under the belt. |
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Post by brigid on Dec 4, 2019 20:31:51 GMT
I ‘m sure Peter has already gathered the troops in preparation for next year. If he has started by splitting hairs about stamina and experience, we won’t get out of Munster. I’ve said it several times, the team that will beat Dublin will beat them playing football, not in stamina. If stamina were the deciding factor then Wicklow could start a 4 year plan and win the AIF in 2023. This year we had 4 forwards, 3 maybe 4 defenders and 1 midfielder and Dublin only beat us between approx. minute 150 and minute 160 of a 2 game battle. Peter, Donie, Maurice and the others know that completing the attacking and defencive structures is the way to win. You would normally expect a team with Dublin’s historical record to have about 5 Connollys. They don’t. The 1 they have is there because in spite of a lot of disrespect, Gavin knows that 1 Connolly is better than no Connolly and that is the decision of a good manager. The fact is they do not have a team of exceptionally talented footballers. Afterall the discussion here is about stamina. What I am saying here about our structure this year is no disrespect to players like Killian Spillane and others who did themselves proud in a limited number of appearances over the season but we need to get to a point where we know that before the team is announced that the opposition will be dealing with 6 scoring forwards and that 1 is not a supporting midfield and another supporting the half back line. When we have a complete team the stamina will look after itself. Peter, Donie, Maurice and the others know that completing the attacking and defencive structures is the way to win. You are correct. It is because the defensive & attacking structures were not in place in 2019 that the All Ireland was lost. First - the defensive. At the start of the 2nd half Dublin played 6 forwards and so that there was no spare player to challenge the extra man coming from the back & he scored the goal. Surely a half forward should have been coached to track back when Dublin play 6 forwards - just like Howard does for Dublin. Now to the forwards. Towards the end of the game, Tommy Walsh put a great ball across the square. Paul Geaney saw what was happening so he went out the field and was followed by the full back. Now there is no Dublin player protecting the square. The ball comes across and there is no Kerry player coming through to put the ball in the net. (Pat Spillane scored a brilliant goal in a similar set-up V Tyrone) Kerry are definitely badly missing a good coach and he is not in the present set up. Rumour, in Dublin, has it that 1 of the 3 mentioned above is or has left the Kerry set-up. But, in my opinion, it is the wrong person that is due to go or gone. |
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Post by dc84 on Dec 5, 2019 10:13:09 GMT
Being back training now is surely the right call if peter wants to look at a few new lads?
Also if anyone thinks stamina isnt a huge factor these days then they are delusional we had run out of gas by the last ten minutes in both games last year, its all fine and well saying they need to be coached to track back etc but if they havent the conditioning they just wont be capable.
To beat dublin we will have to match them for skill/talent where i think we are close and stamina where we are a bit off. Dublin have an exceptional s and c program and a lot of their players have benefitted over an extended time period of this.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 5, 2019 19:13:02 GMT
I ‘m sure Peter has already gathered the troops in preparation for next year. If he has started by splitting hairs about stamina and experience, we won’t get out of Munster. I’ve said it several times, the team that will beat Dublin will beat them playing football, not in stamina. If stamina were the deciding factor then Wicklow could start a 4 year plan and win the AIF in 2023. This year we had 4 forwards, 3 maybe 4 defenders and 1 midfielder and Dublin only beat us between approx. minute 150 and minute 160 of a 2 game battle. Peter, Donie, Maurice and the others know that completing the attacking and defencive structures is the way to win. You would normally expect a team with Dublin’s historical record to have about 5 Connollys. They don’t. The 1 they have is there because in spite of a lot of disrespect, Gavin knows that 1 Connolly is better than no Connolly and that is the decision of a good manager. The fact is they do not have a team of exceptionally talented footballers. Afterall the discussion here is about stamina. What I am saying here about our structure this year is no disrespect to players like Killian Spillane and others who did themselves proud in a limited number of appearances over the season but we need to get to a point where we know that before the team is announced that the opposition will be dealing with 6 scoring forwards and that 1 is not a supporting midfield and another supporting the half back line. When we have a complete team the stamina will look after itself. Peter, Donie, Maurice and the others know that completing the attacking and defencive structures is the way to win. You are correct. It is because the defensive & attacking structures were not in place in 2019 that the All Ireland was lost. First - the defensive. At the start of the 2nd half Dublin played 6 forwards and so that there was no spare player to challenge the extra man coming from the back & he scored the goal. Surely a half forward should have been coached to track back when Dublin play 6 forwards - just like Howard does for Dublin. Now to the forwards. Towards the end of the game, Tommy Walsh put a great ball across the square. Paul Geaney saw what was happening so he went out the field and was followed by the full back. Now there is no Dublin player protecting the square. The ball comes across and there is no Kerry player coming through to put the ball in the net. (Pat Spillane scored a brilliant goal in a similar set-up V Tyrone) Kerry are definitely badly missing a good coach and he is not in the present set up. Rumour, in Dublin, has it that 1 of the 3 mentioned above is or has left the Kerry set-up. But, in my opinion, it is the wrong person that is due to go or gone. Honesty Brigid you are constantly negative. You have rarely post anything positive. That last paragraph is laughable. Kerry with what 23 new players in 36 months the youngest team in decades played all the top sides last summer only losing out after a replay to a more experienced Dublin side. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 21:17:09 GMT
I ‘m sure Peter has already gathered the troops in preparation for next year. If he has started by splitting hairs about stamina and experience, we won’t get out of Munster. I’ve said it several times, the team that will beat Dublin will beat them playing football, not in stamina. If stamina were the deciding factor then Wicklow could start a 4 year plan and win the AIF in 2023. This year we had 4 forwards, 3 maybe 4 defenders and 1 midfielder and Dublin only beat us between approx. minute 150 and minute 160 of a 2 game battle. Peter, Donie, Maurice and the others know that completing the attacking and defencive structures is the way to win. You would normally expect a team with Dublin’s historical record to have about 5 Connollys. They don’t. The 1 they have is there because in spite of a lot of disrespect, Gavin knows that 1 Connolly is better than no Connolly and that is the decision of a good manager. The fact is they do not have a team of exceptionally talented footballers. Afterall the discussion here is about stamina. What I am saying here about our structure this year is no disrespect to players like Killian Spillane and others who did themselves proud in a limited number of appearances over the season but we need to get to a point where we know that before the team is announced that the opposition will be dealing with 6 scoring forwards and that 1 is not a supporting midfield and another supporting the half back line. When we have a complete team the stamina will look after itself. Peter, Donie, Maurice and the others know that completing the attacking and defencive structures is the way to win. You are correct. It is because the defensive & attacking structures were not in place in 2019 that the All Ireland was lost. First - the defensive. At the start of the 2nd half Dublin played 6 forwards and so that there was no spare player to challenge the extra man coming from the back & he scored the goal. Surely a half forward should have been coached to track back when Dublin play 6 forwards - just like Howard does for Dublin. Now to the forwards. Towards the end of the game, Tommy Walsh put a great ball across the square. Paul Geaney saw what was happening so he went out the field and was followed by the full back. Now there is no Dublin player protecting the square. The ball comes across and there is no Kerry player coming through to put the ball in the net. (Pat Spillane scored a brilliant goal in a similar set-up V Tyrone) Kerry are definitely badly missing a good coach and he is not in the present set up. Rumour, in Dublin, has it that 1 of the 3 mentioned above is or has left the Kerry set-up. But, in my opinion, it is the wrong person that is due to go or gone. Pretty hard to have a spare man to stop the Murchan goal. Plenty of issues with that goal but not the one you are on about |
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Post by greengold35 on Dec 5, 2019 21:35:21 GMT
Kearney was part of the squad this year Is Mush inside? He is! That makes 4 from KO’R |
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 6, 2019 12:35:40 GMT
He is! That makes 4 from KO’R Great stuff, looking forward to seeing how he develops over the next 24-36 months with S&C and involvement with the team. He has huge natural potential. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 6, 2019 17:23:34 GMT
He is! That makes 4 from KO’R Great stuff, looking forward to seeing how he develops over the next 24-36 months with S&C and involvement with the team. He has huge natural potential. Excuse my ignorance but who's Mush lads? |
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Post by southward on Dec 6, 2019 18:19:23 GMT
Great stuff, looking forward to seeing how he develops over the next 24-36 months with S&C and involvement with the team. He has huge natural potential. Excuse my ignorance but who's Mush lads? Gavin O'Brien, the Narrie. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 6, 2019 20:20:52 GMT
Excuse my ignorance but who's Mush lads? Gavin O'Brien, the Narrie. Cheers Southward |
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Post by Galway breeze on Dec 8, 2019 15:21:11 GMT
If Stephan Cluxton stays on he could potentially hold 8/9 All Ireland medals in the next two to three years. If he wins a medal next year he will have match the Kerry 5 and only players to hold 8 medals. But if he gets the nine he will have made history and the only players to hold nine medals.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 8, 2019 22:09:51 GMT
Kerry will win the all Ireland in 2020.
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Post by An Bradán on Dec 9, 2019 0:12:38 GMT
Kerry will win the all Ireland in 2020. I agree But then again I said we'd win this year too 😂 |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 9, 2019 7:52:50 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 9, 2019 13:35:39 GMT
Kerry will win the all Ireland in 2020. I thought that also until Gavin pulled the plug. A new manager might actually squeeze a little bit of new freshness out of Dublin in 2020. Cluxton's call will be pivotal. He is at the gate now and could go either way. Achieving the 5 in a row is probably likely to whack Dublin mentally. Gavin might have sensed this. All to play for in 2020 all the same for Kerry. Probably short a bit with MOC in Oz and a few gaps in defence. |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 10, 2019 18:16:44 GMT
Lads I'm looking at next year's fixtures and planning on attending the Mayo game as I've not been to a game in Castlebar. Where do Kerry fans normally stay? Castlebar or Westport?
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Post by greengold35 on Dec 10, 2019 19:38:40 GMT
Lads I'm looking at next year's fixtures and planning on attending the Mayo game as I've not been to a game in Castlebar. Where do Kerry fans normally stay? Castlebar or Westport? Castlebar is the spot - Breaffy House or the Ellison ( formerly Harlequin) are the most popular spots, Mick Byrne’s for the pints! |
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 10, 2019 19:58:10 GMT
Lads I'm looking at next year's fixtures and planning on attending the Mayo game as I've not been to a game in Castlebar. Where do Kerry fans normally stay? Castlebar or Westport? Castlebar is the spot - Breaffy House or the Ellison ( formerly Harlequin) are the most popular spots, Mick Byrne’s for the pints! Weekend in Castlebar long booked. Should be a good weekend! |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 10, 2019 20:16:41 GMT
Cheers lads tend to travel on my own so would be nice to see a few Kerry jerseys around after, Castlebar it is.
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Post by oldschool on Jan 8, 2020 16:51:03 GMT
What team can we expect to see for our game against Dublin?
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Post by Galway breeze on Jan 8, 2020 18:11:33 GMT
So Cathal McShane is not in the AFL pick of the crop after all. Very hard to see past Dublin this year with Donegal improving on last year. Tyrone, Kerry, Mayo and Galway in the chasing pack, it will be interesting if these teams go one step closer to better performance when needed. Cork are the dark horses could upset a lot of countries. Dublin to challenge the league this year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2020 14:44:49 GMT
What team can we expect to see for our game against Dublin? Minus Na Gaeil Templenoe lads and Moran who we prob wont see until March. 1. Shane Ryan 2. Jason Foley 3. Jack Sherwood 4. Brian O' Beaglaoich 5. Gavin White 6. Paul Murphy 7. T O'Sullivan 8. L Kearney 9. T Walsh 10. P Clifford 11. S O'Shea 12. S O'Brien 13. D Clifford (Capt) 14. P Geaney 15. T Brosnan Subs: James O' Donoghue, D Shaw, P Crowley (if fit?) R Buckley, Eoghan O'Brien, Barry O'Mahony. John M Foley. P Kilkenny, C Coffey. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 10, 2020 15:27:01 GMT
So Cathal McShane is not in the AFL pick of the crop after all. Very hard to see past Dublin this year with Donegal improving on last year. Tyrone, Kerry, Mayo and Galway in the chasing pack, it will be interesting if these teams go one step closer to better performance when needed. Cork are the dark horses could upset a lot of countries. Dublin to challenge the league this year. With respect I am afraid you are wrong there re McShane. I'd also think the chasing pack is no longer, we can match the Dubs, Donegal can match us and Mayo took Dgal and hold the League, Dubs are best on the basis they hold Sam but not much different to any other holders in a given year. I am watching Donegal and quiet honestly I don't kn ow how they do it given that the county is a full 50% soccer, I think the answer lies in that while they lose players, there is a cross fertilisation between the codes, both are football afterall, bar handling the ball! Though Gaelic has more physics to it, there is more money and consequently expertise behind globalised soccer, and that filters down, and hopefully across? Didn't GO'D (God O'Dwyer) have rite of access with English soccer in the day, so nothing new there. Those who wouldn't be intimately familiar with the Dgal landscape couldn't even begin to imagine to intrinsic chemistry with Celtic, Liverpool, etc - even I often have to pinch myself and I have lived in Dgal for 20 years. Here is a good one, insightful, apparently Kerry not focusing as much on the League? 'It's not simply a matter of time' - Stephen O'Brien under no illusions on task facing Kerry |
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Post by Virgil on Jan 10, 2020 17:07:20 GMT
@kerryfan38 - Around 6 of your team are all injured
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Post by pillar on Jan 10, 2020 18:46:24 GMT
What team can we expect to see for our game against Dublin? Minus Na Gaeil Templenoe lads and Moran who we prob wont see until March. 1. Shane Ryan 2. Jason Foley 3. Jack Sherwood 4. Brian O' Beaglaoich 5. Gavin White 6. Paul Murphy 7. T O'Sullivan 8. L Kearney 9. T Walsh 10. P Clifford 11. S O'Shea 12. S O'Brien 13. D Clifford (Capt) 14. P Geaney 15. T Brosnan Subs: James O' Donoghue, D Shaw, P Crowley (if fit?) R Buckley, Eoghan O'Brien, Barry O'Mahony. John M Foley. P Kilkenny, C Coffey. Paudie Clifford injured and heard Gavin White has stayed on aboard and is going travelling for a month |
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Post by dc84 on Jan 10, 2020 19:31:47 GMT
Is it confirmed that Clifford is captain?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 10, 2020 22:51:22 GMT
Is it confirmed that Clifford is captain? +1 to this question |
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Post by Leathama on Jan 10, 2020 23:18:33 GMT
Minus Na Gaeil Templenoe lads and Moran who we prob wont see until March. 1. Shane Ryan 2. Jason Foley 3. Jack Sherwood 4. Brian O' Beaglaoich 5. Gavin White 6. Paul Murphy 7. T O'Sullivan 8. L Kearney 9. T Walsh 10. P Clifford 11. S O'Shea 12. S O'Brien 13. D Clifford (Capt) 14. P Geaney 15. T Brosnan Subs: James O' Donoghue, D Shaw, P Crowley (if fit?) R Buckley, Eoghan O'Brien, Barry O'Mahony. John M Foley. P Kilkenny, C Coffey. Paudie Clifford injured and heard Gavin White has stayed on aboard and is going travelling for a month Gavin White was in Killarney yesterday. |
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