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Post by kerrygold on Aug 11, 2019 16:50:32 GMT
Hhmmmmm
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 11, 2019 16:53:51 GMT
We could win...
In theory.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 17:13:00 GMT
Feeling happy now but suspect the fear will set in shortly
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 17:16:32 GMT
A few big admin decisions to be made, firstly the o brien card appeal. Based on the video evidence it looks like the Meath one was pretty soft so would expect him to get off.
Secondly the refereeing decision. gough is the favorite to get this and he badly wants it. However I don’t think it right that he gets it and also this decision should be made by Croke Park not based on lobbying by the Kerry county board
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Post by blue16 on Aug 11, 2019 17:22:33 GMT
Dublin are happy to get Kerry. Tyrone would have posed a bigger challenge. They bossed Kerry physically today and could very easily have won. Kerry's defence is poor and porous. I expect a very convincing Dublin win.....5-8 points.
Kerry have excellent forwards to match those of Dublin but Dublin will win midfield and will torture the Kerry defence. Kerry struggled against Meath for very long periods......in a game that mattered.
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Post by john4 on Aug 11, 2019 17:30:20 GMT
We could win... In theory. Just checked the scoreboard, We're still level |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 11, 2019 17:30:59 GMT
We could win... In theory. Just checked the scoreboard, We're still level Blow it up ref! |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 11, 2019 17:32:18 GMT
Dublin are happy to get Kerry. Tyrone would have posed a bigger challenge. They bossed Kerry physically today and could very easily have won. Kerry's defence is poor and porous. I expect a very convincing Dublin win.....5-8 points. Kerry have excellent forwards to match those of Dublin but Dublin will win midfield and will torture the Kerry defence. Kerry struggled against Meath for very long periods......in a game that mattered. Tyrone wouldn't beat Dublin in a year of Sundays. Kerry would in a month of Sundays. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 11, 2019 17:34:20 GMT
A few big admin decisions to be made, firstly the o brien card appeal. Based on the video evidence it looks like the Meath one was pretty soft so would expect him to get off. Secondly the refereeing decision. gough is the favorite to get this and he badly wants it. However I don’t think it right that he gets it and also this decision should be made by Croke Park not based on lobbying by the Kerry county board Gough should not be reffing Dublin matches. Whether Kerry should object is a far harder proposotion. |
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 11, 2019 17:57:02 GMT
A few big admin decisions to be made, firstly the o brien card appeal. Based on the video evidence it looks like the Meath one was pretty soft so would expect him to get off. Secondly the refereeing decision. gough is the favorite to get this and he badly wants it. However I don’t think it right that he gets it and also this decision should be made by Croke Park not based on lobbying by the Kerry county board Gough should not be reffing Dublin matches. Whether Kerry should object is a far harder proposotion. If we have to choose between Stephen on or Gough off, I’d go with Stephen on. Maybe Gough is so embarrassed by his last blunder that he might overcompensate in our favour. (Or not) |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 11, 2019 18:04:35 GMT
Gough should not be reffing Dublin matches. Whether Kerry should object is a far harder proposotion. If we have to choose between Stephen on or Gough off, I’d go with Stephen on. Maybe Gough is so embarrassed by his last blunder that he might overcompensate in our favour. (Or not) That is a false choice. I think Gough is a good ref - and would actually like him to ref the final - but as a principle people living in Dublin should not be reffing Dublin matches. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 18:06:04 GMT
Gough should not be reffing Dublin matches. Whether Kerry should object is a far harder proposotion. If we have to choose between Stephen on or Gough off, I’d go with Stephen on. Maybe Gough is so embarrassed by his last blunder that he might overcompensate in our favour. (Or not) Gough should not be put in that position regardless of which side he came down on I would have no issue with gough either if Kerry were playing Mayo. By that I mean counties should not b e objecting to referees for the reason that they don’t like the referee. |
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Post by gaelicden on Aug 11, 2019 18:15:24 GMT
This will be Kerry's 60th all Ireland final (disregarding replays) am I right? Already played 59 winning 37 times and losing 22 finals.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 11, 2019 18:22:01 GMT
This will be Kerry's 60th all Ireland final (disregarding replays) am I right? Already played 59 winning 37 times and losing 22 finals. There might be players out there who lost four finals. A tough station. |
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Post by shaggy04 on Aug 11, 2019 18:58:52 GMT
If we have to choose between Stephen on or Gough off, I’d go with Stephen on. Maybe Gough is so embarrassed by his last blunder that he might overcompensate in our favour. (Or not) That is a false choice. I think Gough is a good ref - and would actually like him to ref the final - but as a principle people living in Dublin should not be reffing Dublin matches. Gough lives in Dublin works in Dublin is a member of a Dublin club coaches in Dublin and is married to a Dub,hes no more a meath man then I am.Donegal objected to playing a neutral game with Dublin in Dublins home stadium,why cant we object to a Dublin man as referee in a Dublin all Ireland final |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 11, 2019 19:13:58 GMT
That is a false choice. I think Gough is a good ref - and would actually like him to ref the final - but as a principle people living in Dublin should not be reffing Dublin matches. Gough lives in Dublin works in Dublin is a member of a Dublin club coaches in Dublin and is married to a Dub,hes no more a meath man then I am.Donegal objected to playing a neutral game with Dublin in Dublins home stadium,why cant we object to a Dublin man as referee in a Dublin all Ireland final I think you have to weigh up the pros and cons... and beware unintended consequences. What benefit did it serve Donegal last year to object? One must be Jesuitical in these matters. |
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Post by kerryboy83 on Aug 11, 2019 19:47:59 GMT
It will be Dublin Joe the Cavan man!!!
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Post by brucewayne on Aug 11, 2019 20:01:39 GMT
Forget about lobbying for this ref or that straight away. If we do and the choice of ref is altered as a result, the ref we'll get WILL ride us to smithereens whereas the one we'll have if we dont only might.
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Post by yourholiness on Aug 11, 2019 20:26:29 GMT
I think it’ll be Barry Cassidy . I have absolutely nothing to base this on .
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 11, 2019 21:19:57 GMT
The Galway black might be black technically - but not within the spirit of the rule.
The ball was out of play.
There could be all manner of technicalities involved.
For example, the rules were different in the league.
The Meath one is also against the spirit of the rule... Kerry had the ball... it could have gone the other way TBH.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Aug 11, 2019 21:25:15 GMT
If he pushed his opponent to the ground today, rather than pull him down, there would be no black card.
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Post by peanuts on Aug 11, 2019 22:03:11 GMT
If he pushed his opponent to the ground today, rather than pull him down, there would be no black card. Yeah, or pulled the jersey off him |
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Post by peanuts on Aug 11, 2019 22:14:56 GMT
The Galway black might be black technically - but not within the spirit of the rule. The ball was out of play. There could be all manner of technicalities involved. For example, the rules were different in the league. The Meath one is also against the spirit of the rule... Kerry had the ball... it could have gone the other way TBH. Denis Bastick got a black against Kerry in a league game a couple of years ago for pulling Donaghy down in a similar fashion as O’Briens against Galway after a throw ball. AFAIK it was rescinded. Regardless the Meath one should be rescinded. |
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Post by colinsworth1 on Aug 11, 2019 22:39:55 GMT
Have we any hope at all on Sept 1 st
Just one area we can improve on among many areas
Mayo made a hero out of Fintan
How many times did Hennelly kick the ball to Ireland’s best fetcher in second half wouldn’t you go anywhere except to Fintan
Looked like Rouane was picking up Mc Carthy in second half if so who was picking up Fintan ? Answer Nobody !!!
McCarthy doesn’t look half the player he was , Mc Auley is not a scoring threat you only have to mind one midfielder not impossible
We ll need two goalkeepers to keep Con o C out and call him a sweeper if you want but he ll have to play goal side of Con
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 11, 2019 22:42:51 GMT
It is very hard to see Kerry win but not impossible to see Dublin lose.
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Post by Hicser on Aug 11, 2019 23:35:49 GMT
I’m not so sure we can write Kerry off just yet. This is going to be a shoot out. A few key items for Kerry:
1. We have beaten Dublin this year and won the fight after as well 😀.
2. We were seen to be easily bullied, twice by Mayo in the league. Problem seems to have disappeared, Mayo, Donegal & Tyrone seen off.
3. We’ve proven we can last the 76 minutes, no issue with fitness and intensity levels.
4. We can come from behind and win an All Ireland semi final, massive improvement here, experience etc..,
5. We really have nothing to lose but go out and enjoy the final. The pressure is all on Dublin, it’s their 5 in a row, not ours. This team is a year ahead of where it should be. In 2020 we will pose a greater challenge.
6. Our bench is very strong. I had a suspicion Tommy was been held back. He made a huge difference when he came on
All positives, let’s not dwell on the negatives just yet, for sure they are there but if we go for it and cut loose then who knows,
I think Dublin would have preferred Tyrone to be fair, we are slightly unpredictable and have still untapped potential,
Can’t wait,
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 12, 2019 0:15:44 GMT
The Galway black might be black technically - but not within the spirit of the rule. The ball was out of play. There could be all manner of technicalities involved. For example, the rules were different in the league. The Meath one is also against the spirit of the rule... Kerry had the ball... it could have gone the other way TBH. Denis Bastick got a black against Kerry in a league game a couple of years ago for pulling Donaghy down in a similar fashion as O’Briens against Galway after a throw ball. AFAIK it was rescinded. Regardless the Meath one should be rescinded. Dublin appealed Basticks black card & it was changed to a yellow. O’Briens black vs Meath can in no way be described as deliberate - that’s the real issue & should be rescinded. |
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Post by shortkickout on Aug 12, 2019 1:54:24 GMT
A win for Dublin is like a yawn on the Jax, and with respect would set football outside the capital in general back another bit .
A win for Kerry will eclipse any session any Offaly man ever had . I think the belief is there , I think the leaders are there and I think kerry can start a run of their own given the back log of underage talent from previous underage years itching to break through and make a name for themselves .
Last year we axed a very capable manager , because we felt we didn’t have time for group hugs , selfies or pity, we wanted action , we elected a man that could have kept us going with the same excuses.
He gave the youth their fair dues and today that repaid , even for 40 minutes . But like Dublin yesterday , the right 40 minutes .
Kerry football is starved and at the end of the day at this stage it’s about fifteen men v fifteen men ,with three weeks to prepare . Money . Facilities . Population . All go out the window ,
Dublin kerry , mouth watering for the overall population , could we actually see 75-80 minutes of proper football for once this year ? Super two’s
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Post by gaelicden on Aug 12, 2019 2:10:47 GMT
Lads, I knew we had a lot of personnel changes over the years but Christ, apart from Killian Young (who knows if he even makes the final panel) there'll be no survivor from the starting 15 or the three subs who played the '11 final. Shane Enright, James O'Donoghue (will he even make the panel?) and Peter Crowley (injured) unused subs that day (if Tommy wasn't in Australia he'd probably be the sole survivor... Maybe). Dublin have about ... 10/11 ish (yet some of those will be most likely subs or might not even make the match day 26). I suppose they were young enough lads then though and we were the well seasoned team.
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 12, 2019 5:52:58 GMT
If we have to choose between Stephen on or Gough off, I’d go with Stephen on. Maybe Gough is so embarrassed by his last blunder that he might overcompensate in our favour. (Or not) That is a false choice. I think Gough is a good ref - and would actually like him to ref the final - but as a principle people living in Dublin should not be reffing Dublin matches. You're right. It's not either/or - more like magical thinking. In the interest of fairness a Dublin based referee should not read a Dublin match but unlike the black card it's not something to make too big a fuss over. |
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