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Post by greengold35 on Nov 12, 2019 21:14:52 GMT
What would happen if KOR and Stacks dropped to intermediate? Would they plus Mitchells and na Gaeil represent Tralee? Assuming all four are intermediate. There is no precedent for this but no provision either - the question was put to the county board at a meeting in 2017 but was not answered by the executive as it was “ hypothetical “! I think the work being done on the district boards by county board will come up with a solution- again, looks likely that an amalgamation of Tralee & St Brendans board would solve this, should it occur. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 12, 2019 21:20:04 GMT
What would happen if KOR and Stacks dropped to intermediate? Would they plus Mitchells and na Gaeil represent Tralee? Assuming all four are intermediate. Might I suggest a lá the hurling with Cork, if those clubs drop to intermediate the number of senior clubs will increase... |
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Post by piggott on Nov 12, 2019 21:22:05 GMT
Tralee as one team won several championships in the 1920s before being divided into three areas about 1927.
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Post by ballhopper34 on Nov 12, 2019 21:48:15 GMT
A Pat O'Shea from Tralee who used to work at The Kerryman put together an excellent book on the Kerry County Championships from 1889 to 1998 called "Face the Ball". I've seen it in Killarney Library, so I'm sure it's in Tralee as well. From his book, I can put the following together from 1940-1970: Shannon Rangers: debut 1941, won title 1942, did not compete 1956-1963. Feale Rangers: 1956-1963, St. Vincent's took their place 1964-1970 (losing to 1968 semi-final to Waterville), Feale Rangers back 1971. North Kerry : appeared until 1942, out 1943 and 1944, last appearance was 1955 (note Feale Rangers appeared first in 1956). Army team entered in 1944 and 1945 only. Listowel in championship 1951-1954...noted the name Listowel Geraldines listed for 1954. A team called just "Geraldines" appears in 1947, which may or may not be the same. St. Brendan's in 1950-1967, back in 1972. East Kerry first appeared 1957. There are some names that appear, such as Eoghan Ruadhs in 1956, that give no clue as to what clubs make up the side. Indeed, The major disclaimer is that what clubs made up any divisional side is not clear either. I would thik Eoghan Ruadhs are Rathmore, Glenflisk and Gneeveguilla? They used to play at Under 14 and 16 in the county championship. In the 80's there ertr teams called Clanna Gael, Gweestin Rovers, Fanaithe na Luachra and an Fianna were thse divisional teams? There also seemed to be two South Kerry divisions in the 70's Iveragh and Southern Gaels. That would definitely be correct on Eoghan Ruadhs for the 1980's...not so sure about the 1950's though. It was Gweestin Rangers, not Rovers...the same clubs formed Na Fianna and Fanaithe na Luachra as well...Kilcummin, Firies, Listry and Fossa...the Gweestin River lending it's name as it flowed through all four parishes. The late Dermot Moynihan from Kilcummin was a big driver behind those teams. |
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Post by mandad on Nov 12, 2019 22:43:19 GMT
Veteran - I do indeed remember the Kerryman Shield. It started about 1960/1 and was played off in two groups. The winners and runners up qualified for the semi-finals. I don’t know how long the Shield lasted but was won by North Kerry sides as follows in the 60’s.
Started 1961.
1962 Feale Rangers.
1964 St. Vincent’s. (Incl. Listowel – Moyvane – Tarbert- Clounmacon). Capt. Bernie O’Callaghan.
1966 Shannon Rangers beat Mid Kerry.
1967 Shannon Rangers. Capt. Paud O’Donoghue.
Like yourself, I too left North Kerry in the late 60’s, exploding outwards onto ‘the great uncovered road’ and couldn’t afford to return or maintain close enough contact with my roots as often as I should. Great memories nevertheless.
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Post by kerryexile on Nov 12, 2019 23:50:30 GMT
Veteran - I do indeed remember the Kerryman Shield. It started about 1960/1 and was played off in two groups. The winners and runners up qualified for the semi-finals. I don’t know how long the Shield lasted but was won by North Kerry sides as follows in the 60’s. Started 1961. 1962 Feale Rangers. 1964 St. Vincent’s. (Incl. Listowel – Moyvane – Tarbert- Clounmacon). Capt. Bernie O’Callaghan. 1966 Shannon Rangers beat Mid Kerry. 1967 Shannon Rangers. Capt. Paud O’Donoghue. Like yourself, I too left North Kerry in the late 60’s, exploding outwards onto ‘the great uncovered road’ and couldn’t afford to return or maintain close enough contact with my roots as often as I should. Great memories nevertheless. I remember the Kerryman Shield. I played in it even though i was very young at the time. I remember it as a competition that served the purpose of giving games to divisional sides to prepare for the championship. Even though it appears the Mitchels played in it I have no memory of strong club teams in the 70's like Stacks playing in it. The standard was often very poor and not remotely near championsip standard. Not surprised it fizzled out. |
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 14, 2019 19:12:28 GMT
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Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 05:51 PM
Kerry chairman Tim Murphy says counties should be allowed to negotiate live coverage deals directly with TV companies.
Murphy revealed that individual boards 'do not deal with TV companies directly' with broadcasters working with Croke Park.
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Board officials were criticised in some quarters for rejecting an offer from TG4 - via the GAA - to televise Sunday’s East Kerry-Dr Crokes SFC final.
That decision was reached after Kingdom chiefs noted a sharp fall in the attendance at the quarter-final double-header which was shown live on RTE.
It was reported two years ago counties would receive €5,000 from Croke Park to compensate for the loss of gate receipts from match broadcasts. However Murphy feels that boards should have a greater say in how much they are paid given the potential loss of supporters attending big games.
He also revealed that Kerry are examining the possibility of "streaming live big games ourselves".
“It was not a decision that we took lightly and at the start I was contemplating giving the go-ahead,” said Murphy.
“But eventually TV revenue was never going to compensate for the loss of revenue Kerry GAA would suffer.
“What people out there do not realise is that we do not deal with TV companies directly.
If the game is broadcast, we get the money from Croke Park, which would cover less than 300 paying spectators through the turnstiles.
"When we built Currans (Kerry's Centre of Excellence) we promised the clubs that they would never be levied for any outstanding debt and so to forego €40,000 on Sunday last would not have been a sound commercial decision.”
To ensure the wider Kerry community gets to watch the county final, Murphy said they might consider streaming it themselves.
“I am acutely aware of the fact that some people cannot get to games and we have emigrants in all parts of the globe so I will be bringing it up with Croke Park at the end of the month that for county finals, at least, we should be allowed to negotiate directly with the TV companies.
“Failing that, we are in discussions about streaming live big games ourselves so everyone would have an opportunity to watch.
"Whether we have to charge for this service or not is up for discussion.”
Meanwhile, former Austin Stacks chairman Liam Lynch will become Kerry’s new development officer, replacing Eamon Whelan, who is lined up as the county’s next vice-chairman. Former county chairman Patrick O’Sullivan is to take over from John Joe Carroll as Central Council delegate with Carroll and former county treasurer Dermot “Weeshie” Lynch vying for the Kerry candidacy for the Munster Council treasurer position.
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Post by pintpleasejohn on Nov 16, 2019 2:15:47 GMT
Just watched back the highlights of the final last Sunday and it just reiterated a point that I was willing to make before so, we are indeed truly blessed to be able to watch David Clifford in the flesh, I can’t help but think he is already up there as one of the best of all time
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 16, 2019 9:32:14 GMT
The hype is worrying about DC.
Tony Leen's Mount Rushmore piece said it all in this regard.
SOS is the same age and was far more influential for Kerry in 2019 and hardly a word about him by comparison.
Hopefully DC will go on to realise his undoubted potential at inter county level.
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Post by kot on Nov 18, 2019 13:45:06 GMT
Not much word on the Stacks game.... for obvious reasons I suppose, but would still be interesting to hear how people there saw it?
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Post by kot on Nov 18, 2019 13:47:18 GMT
The hype is worrying about DC. Tony Leen's Mount Rushmore piece said it all in this regard. SOS is the same age and was far more influential for Kerry in 2019 and hardly a word about him by comparison. Hopefully DC will go on to realise his undoubted potential at inter county level. I don't really get this? David Clifford was playing and starred in the county final last week. Of course he is going to be in media? I have heard nothing but people laud Sean O'Shea all year and to say either one of them were "far" more influential than either is bonkers imo. And didn't Sean O'Shea recently win young player of the year?  |
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2019 9:43:45 GMT
Is there a link available to the county final any where or is it possible to buy a recording of the game?
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 4, 2019 13:58:55 GMT
When you post a video on youtube you have three options to choose from. If you choose "public", anyone can find it and view it by using search. If you choose "unlisted", then one would need to have the link to the video to view it. You wont find it by using search I always use this option . It restricts the viewership to those on here or those to whom the link to the game is sent. There is a third option called "private". This restricts viewership totally. Only the person who uploaded the video can view it. There may be options to allow a target audience view videos that are put up as "private". What i am thinking is that this target audience could pay kerry county board a set fee for a year and be able to watch games that are uploaded under this account as "private". A new account would be set up for the next year and subscriptions paid and away we go again for that year. This could enable a cohort of kerry supporters see games after the fact that they cannot attend and provide an income stream to Kerry county board. It might be tuesday or wednesday by the time the game is uploaded but so what. I hope i am not writing this in a moany style! Good post, there must be a better way of doing this in a world of modern technology & commercialism rather than a full camera ban. Plenty of people all over the world who would love to watch this game tomorrow, not to mention the further outreaches of Kerry from Tralee. Fine in principle targeting neutrals from within 20-30 minutes of Tralee. Anyway, hopefully the weather will oblique a full house attendance tomorrow. By Francis Mooney Wednesday, December 04, 2019 - 12:57 PM Tyrone’s ill-fated live streaming of the county’s Senior Football Championship final was sabotaged by cyber-attackers, it has emerged. Learn more Viewers worldwide who paid to watch the clash of Trillick and Errigal Ciaran on October 13 were left frustrated by a sudden black-out in the second half, and efforts to restore coverage failed. The problem was traced to a failure of the Content Delivery Network (CDN), and all subscribers received a full refund. But Tyrone official Gerard Bradley has claimed the showpiece occasion was the target of a cyber-attack “The Content Delivery Network company has reported that there was a DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) attack on the data centre hosting the service,” he said. Bradley, who heads up the county board’s Information Technology Committee, explained that a DDoS attack is a type of cyber-attack that uses compromised computers and devices to send data or request data from a targeted server. “The purpose of these requests is to slow down and eventually crash the targeted server. There are multiple reasons for these types of cyber-attack,” he says in his report to next week’s annual convention. Although Tyrone GAA was not responsible for the failure of the live stream, we decided to refund all subscribers and this process was completed within 48 hours. The CDN company has confirmed that a new server will be dedicated to Tyrone’s streaming service for the future, and support staff will be in place at critical times. Bradley stresses that all other live-streamed matches in the county over the past two seasons have been delivered successfully and without interruption. “Over the last two years, we have provided live streaming for 14 matches, and this is the first time we have experienced such a malfunction. “DDoS attacks are becoming increasingly common, and in the weeks following the county final, DDoS attacks recently targeted Amazon’s S3 cloud service and a major political party involved in an election. “We have apologised to all our subscribers and are particularly disappointed for those subscribers who have emigrated and were relying on us to receive the live stream from this match.” |
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 6, 2019 12:33:33 GMT
The KCB have a huge opportunity to stream games or delayed viewing around the world to people. It should be part of KCB revenue income and enhancement of the Kerry brand. How many times can you relaunch the Kerry jersey before people get agitated?
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Post by greengold35 on Dec 6, 2019 12:46:25 GMT
The KCB have a huge opportunity to stream games or delayed viewing around the world to people. It should be part of KCB revenue income and enhancement of the Kerry brand. How many times can you relaunch the Kerry jersey before people get agitated? Absolutely has massive potential particularly to those abroad - easy to stream to those only outside of Ireland eliminating the argument of affecting the attendance - subscribers could only access from an IP address outside the county/country for a set fee - would have massive appeal. Imagine the additional revenue from this years county final ? |
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 6, 2019 13:18:24 GMT
The KCB have a huge opportunity to stream games or delayed viewing around the world to people. It should be part of KCB revenue income and enhancement of the Kerry brand. How many times can you relaunch the Kerry jersey before people get agitated? Absolutely has massive potential particularly to those abroad - easy to stream to those only outside of Ireland eliminating the argument of affecting the attendance - subscribers could only access from an IP address outside the county/country for a set fee - would have massive appeal. Imagine the additional revenue from this years county final ? Why would you restrict it to people outside the county if they are paying to see it online? |
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Post by greengold35 on Dec 6, 2019 13:30:23 GMT
Absolutely has massive potential particularly to those abroad - easy to stream to those only outside of Ireland eliminating the argument of affecting the attendance - subscribers could only access from an IP address outside the county/country for a set fee - would have massive appeal. Imagine the additional revenue from this years county final ? Why would you restrict it to people outside the county if they are paying to see it online? To alleviate the impact on attendance - could not see a charge of €20 ( county final admission) being attractive to potential viewers, €10 more appropriate - obviously could not offer same deal to those living locally. |
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 6, 2019 17:37:07 GMT
Showing a delayed transmission on a Wednesday evening of a game played on the previous sunday would hardly affect attendances.
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Post by kerrygold on Dec 9, 2019 13:30:08 GMT
Why would you restrict it to people outside the county if they are paying to see it online? To alleviate the impact on attendance - could not see a charge of €20 ( county final admission) being attractive to potential viewers, €10 more appropriate - obviously could not offer same deal to those living locally. More might login to live streaming that might actually attend the game. All young kids around the county & the country should see the DCs & SOSs play as much as possible.................Attending winter football doesn't always suit younger & older people. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 12, 2020 3:35:29 GMT
Showing a delayed transmission on a Wednesday evening of a game played on the previous sunday would hardly affect attendances. Hey Mick, while I'd respect your views in general, I wouldn't be so sure you are on the money here. Now maybe I'm at the other extreme in that I often pen a poem while watching a game and the 'live' dimension is vital for the spontaneity, i.e. the best way to convince the reader the author didn't know what happens next is to be honest and not to know, i.e. watch it live. Of course we all love to watch a game later, amazing when the nerves have calmed down, but that is a different thing! Maybe we all need to take a step back here? |
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