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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 10, 2019 18:40:48 GMT
Liam Kearns has resigned as Tipperary football team manager following their defeat to Down in the first round of the qualifiers. I know there are those on here with mixed views on Liam Kearns as a manager but I think he has done a fantastic job in his time with both Limerick and Tipperary, both strong hurling counties. The fact that he's a Kerryman would probably work against him ever becoming the Cork football manager but imo he's exactly the type of guy they need. I'd say that you'll see Liam in a club job in Kerry next year |
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 13, 2019 21:48:16 GMT
By Eoghan Cormican
Staff writer
Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - 12:00 AM
There is a total lack of education surrounding concussion at GAA club level, according to former Galway footballer Cormac Bane, who has been forced to hang up his boots at the age of 35 following two bangs to the face which have considerably hindered the quality of his everyday life.
A message from Bane, posted on social media by his club, Caherlistrane, on Monday evening, outlined that medical advice has dictated he retire from the game with immediate effect.
“Hi guys, a disappointing day for me today. On medical grounds, I have to announce my retirement from football,” he wrote.
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“A serious and prolonged concussion injury last year has been followed by a similar one sustained versus Carraroe. Doctors have said that I can’t continue. I just want to thank you all for your support and kind messages over the years. I really appreciated it.”
Calling time on his 20-year adult playing career with Caherlistrane wasn’t as difficult a decision as you might think. In truth, there was no decision at all. Bane has a wife and two children who rely on him. And as he was told by the consultant last week, a third blow would mean long-term memory loss, seizures, more severe mood swings, and, possibly, epilepsy.
“I was in a lift at work on Monday, I wanted to go to floor three, but I ended up going to the wrong floor. I’d be taking phone calls as part of my job and after I’d put down the phone, I’d have forgotten what the person said to me,” Bane told the Irish Examiner yesterday, laying bare the implications of two separate concussions.
I am chatting to you now and it is going fine, but I could meet someone in five minutes’ time, not be expecting to run into them, and I’ll struggle to engage. It just doesn’t come naturally anymore.
"Last week, I went down to the shop, but to get there, I had to cross the road. It is a quiet road but crossing was a bit of an issue for me. There were no cars coming, but it took me a couple of seconds to make the decision that you can go now. As I was crossing, I felt I was running across as I couldn’t process what was going on.
“I feel worse today than I did the day after I got the second bang two-and-a-half weeks ago. All of this makes me uncomfortable. I am not functioning properly since I got these two bangs.”
Bane has been playing adult club football for Caherlistrane since 1999 and yet it wasn’t on the GAA field that he suffered his first brain injury. After stepping away from the inter-county scene in 2012, following seven seasons in the maroon shirt, during which he made 18 championship appearances, he threw his lot in with Corrib Rugby Club during the winter months to keep himself ticking over ahead of the GAA season starting back.
Full-back or centre is where he preferred lining out, but in February last year, he found himself at out-half as Corrib took on NUIG. Early in the second half, and having kicked possession downfield, Bane was “absolutely nailed” with an elbow to the face. After getting back to his feet and dusting himself down, the former Galway forward saw out proceedings.
But, as can be the case with a concussion, the symptoms were delayed in presenting themselves.
“When I got home, I started to struggle, didn’t know where I was, got headaches, got dizzy, became nauseous,” recalled Bane.
“I went into the doctor on the Thursday after, four days later. He said I was suffering concussion. After he did me up a letter of referral, we got talking about a Galway-Mayo game that had happened the previous weekend. Halfway through the conversation, I forgot what we were talking about. I said, ‘Doc, I am after having a total blackout’.”
From the doctor’s surgery, he made for the Galway Clinic, where he spent a full week. The man who won a Connacht SFC medal from corner- forward in 2008, having kicked 2-1 the year previous to topple Mayo in a provincial semi-final, was six months sidelined due to this concussion.
He returned last September and didn’t experience any difficulty until the first round of the Galway SFC on the final Saturday of last month.
“In the first minute against An Cheathrú Rua, I got the ball, went to take on my man, and got a bang in the face. When I got up, I stumbled backwards. I said to myself, I’m in trouble here again. That was my last bit of football.
“Afterwards, I was standing at the car outside Clonbur GAA grounds and my brother went back in to get the keys as I couldn’t drive. He was gone for all of 25 seconds, but during that time, I completely lost my bearings, didn’t know where my brother had gone, didn’t know which car was mine, didn’t know where I was. I had to lean against the car because I was falling backwards. Next day, I felt I had to bang my head off the wall the pressure was so bad.”
There followed more visits to the doctor and consultant, both informing him that he was putting himself at risk if he went back inside the whitewash.
“The depression last year and the depression since I got the latest bang is not good. It is linked in with the mood swings. You are up one minute and the next minute, for no reason at all, you are down.” What concerns him is that the GAA community are not aware of such dangers stemming from concussion. Certainly, Bane wasn’t until it twice landed on his doorstep. More must be done to educate club players, he believes.
“There are posters up around clubhouses in Galway and elsewhere detailing the symptoms of concussion. But a poster is not an education. We’re way behind where we should be in relation to concussion education.
I don’t believe concussion is taken seriously enough. The reason for that is people involved in the GAA, at club level, don’t know enough about concussion.
The perception out there is that, after a bang to the head, you’ll be grand a day or two later.
“I’m having conversations with people, telling them I’m concussed, and then they’ll ask me, ‘When are you back playing?’ So you really have to explain to them what is wrong with you. You have to tell them, I cannot drive my car to work, I cannot carry out my functions as a father.
“What I’ve gone through, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.”
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 13, 2019 21:49:30 GMT
Frightening article about Cormac Bane there
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 14, 2019 9:37:28 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 14, 2019 9:38:38 GMT
Frightening article about Cormac Bane there What punishment is Katie Tayler's brain taking - mind numbing.................... |
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Post by dc84 on Jun 14, 2019 12:19:18 GMT
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 14, 2019 13:25:54 GMT
A two match ban is pathetic in my opinion - this type of behaviour has no place in the game and the punishment should clearly demonstrate this. When taken in the context of the punishment for minor interference with an official where players (rightly) get lengthy bans from all activity it shows that gouging and deliberate attempts to injure a player are not taken seriously. The guy was caught aiming to inflict injury on another player - when the ball was effectively not in play. Two matches may be appropriate for a dangerous tackle in the course of a game but is totally inadequate for a deliberate incident such as what occurred. What is worse is that if the injured party had reacted he would also have received a red card and been banned for a game - players need to be protected from thuggery which is the only description for the incident observed. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 14, 2019 13:30:20 GMT
The GAA's disciplinary regime is a farce.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 14, 2019 14:21:42 GMT
That's what I think As Well it's about as low as you get imho. And I'd hate if one of ours ever did similar
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Post by veteran on Jun 14, 2019 16:49:48 GMT
It would appear that the GAA is a little late recognizing the seriousness of concussion but in fairness to them professional organizations like the IRFU have only recently been paying the appropriate attention to this condition. The Turf Club were probably the first sporting organisafion to properly address concussion . For several years they have a strict protocol of checking all jockeys who fall on the day and if concussion is confirmed the jockey is stood down for six days. In the meantime , he is further assessed by a specialist and depending on the findings he is stood down for two weeks and if needs be for a further weeks and so on until he is cleared to ride again.
I am sure a lot of us can recall John OKeeffe coming out for the second half of the 1979 final with Joe Keohane by his aide and clearly, with the benefit of hindsight, he was concussed. The hope is that would not happen today.
All these regulations are commendable and no doubt more elaborate protocols will be introduced when concussion and its possible sequelae are better understood. Contrast that with an activity which is carelessly described as sport, boxing. The primary aim in this barbaric confrontation is to deliberately inflict a knockout blow , concussion . More serious brain injury in some cases and if the immediate brain injury is not totally debilitating one can only speculate as to the cumulative impact of repeated knockout blows, repeated oncussion in other words. So on the one hand we have media commentators rightly pointing out the need for appropriate concussion protocols in various sports while on the other hand glorifying boxing and suggesting that its participants, in our notable case Katie Taylor, can be inspirational for young people. Inspirational to do what? To deliberately inflict concussion on an opponent. One feels there is a little contradiction, hypocrisy if you like, lurking in these viewpoints. At a minimum , boxers should be compelled to wear protective headgear. That was the case in amateur boxing up to a few years ago but then it was dispensed with. . Better to dispense with boxing all together.
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Post by givehimaball on Jun 14, 2019 20:40:28 GMT
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 14, 2019 21:44:35 GMT
The GAA's disciplinary regime is a farce. And has been such for a long time. |
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Post by sullyschoice on Jun 14, 2019 21:45:14 GMT
That's what I think As Well it's about as low as you get imho. And I'd hate if one of ours ever did similar Ahem. |
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Post by john4 on Jun 16, 2019 8:26:25 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 16, 2019 10:09:57 GMT
John Horan says an awful lot of underage coaching in Dublin is done by unpaid volunteers.
This is the case in every county.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 16, 2019 11:17:20 GMT
Horan won't be rocking Dublin's boat during his three year stint. The second tier championship looks like a bit of a smokescreen. Who'll be in it, every other county bar Dublin?
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 16, 2019 12:02:44 GMT
Horan won't be rocking Dublin's boat during his three year stint. a bit like putting the wolf in charge of the hen house🙄 |
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Post by john4 on Jun 21, 2019 11:06:18 GMT
Slightly off topic here, and off the topic of sport even but LinkedIn announced yesterday the creation of 800 new jobs added to their already 1200 strong workforce, and where, in Dublin of course.
This current government and previous ones have allowed and encouraged the growth of Dublin to the detriment of the regions. It's inevitable then that down the road there will be more clubs all over the country in the same predicament as Valentia finds itself currently. If something isn't done to keep young people in rural areas it's going to be very hard to pull a football team together that can complete with the monster that Dublin has become.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 21, 2019 11:21:24 GMT
Slightly off topic here, and off the topic of sport even but LinkedIn announced yesterday the creation of 800 new jobs added to their already 1200 strong workforce, and where, in Dublin of course. This current government and previous ones have allowed and encouraged the growth of Dublin to the detriment of the regions. It's inevitable then that down the road there will be more clubs all over the country in the same predicament as Valentia finds itself currently. If something isn't done to keep young people in rural areas it's going to be very hard to pull a football team together that can complete with the monster that Dublin has become. Add this to the list aswell scary stuff it's like they are trying to empty the countryside www.agriland.ie/farming-news/the-vision-is-there-will-be-no-more-one-off-housing-in-very-rural-settings-in-this-country/ |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 21, 2019 11:40:45 GMT
Slightly off topic here, and off the topic of sport even but LinkedIn announced yesterday the creation of 800 new jobs added to their already 1200 strong workforce, and where, in Dublin of course. This current government and previous ones have allowed and encouraged the growth of Dublin to the detriment of the regions. It's inevitable then that down the road there will be more clubs all over the country in the same predicament as Valentia finds itself currently. If something isn't done to keep young people in rural areas it's going to be very hard to pull a football team together that can complete with the monster that Dublin has become. While I agree that there is too much in Dublin, as opposed to the other cities, my opinion is that rural communities should realise at this stage that no government is ever going to do much for them, and they should try and organise themselves and do things for themselves inasmuch as possible. Slaughtneil are a fantastic example of this kind of thing. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 21, 2019 11:43:43 GMT
Slightly off topic here, and off the topic of sport even but LinkedIn announced yesterday the creation of 800 new jobs added to their already 1200 strong workforce, and where, in Dublin of course. This current government and previous ones have allowed and encouraged the growth of Dublin to the detriment of the regions. It's inevitable then that down the road there will be more clubs all over the country in the same predicament as Valentia finds itself currently. If something isn't done to keep young people in rural areas it's going to be very hard to pull a football team together that can complete with the monster that Dublin has become. Add this to the list aswell scary stuff it's like they are trying to empty the countryside www.agriland.ie/farming-news/the-vision-is-there-will-be-no-more-one-off-housing-in-very-rural-settings-in-this-country/This thing really gets my back up. One off housing IS clustered around town and villages. If An Taisce had their way rural communities would die completely, and it really pisses me off when they feign concern for rural Ireland, saying one off housing is killing rural Ireland when in fact banning one off housing would be the nail in the coffin of rural Ireland as most people on here would keenly appreciate. |
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Post by Aodhan on Jun 21, 2019 12:04:00 GMT
This thing really gets my back up. One off housing IS clustered around town and villages. If An Taisce had their way rural communities would die completely, and it really pisses me off when they feign concern for rural Ireland, saying one off housing is killing rural Ireland when in fact banning one off housing would be the nail in the coffin of rural Ireland as most people on here would keenly appreciate. UN Agenda 21/2030 in full flow. |
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Post by rollingstone on Jun 21, 2019 14:21:13 GMT
Aodhán - I completely agree. I very rarely post on here (I am an avid reader for years) but the direction this country is going in is beyond a joke at this stage. The psychopaths in suits brigade in Dublin (as that is exactly what they are) are hell bent on destroying the fabric of our society - the latest announcement on increasing carbon taxes is just another way of re-distributing wealth to the elites. It's a tax on the poor, the working and middle classes, nothing else - for the most part, people don't drive for pleasure, they drive out of necessity. Public transport in Ireland is practically non-existent so what other choice do people have, even those in big towns and cities? People don't drive second hand cars because they want to, it's because they can't afford to buy new ones. All this latest announcement will do is force people into expensive long term car loans, PCP, HP arrangements etc. to buy new and overpriced electrical cars, in effect becoming a second mortgage that will tie people down even further, the further enslavement of our people reducing their ability to challenge the status quo. Judging by the pathetic attempts at providing decent infrastructure in this country at present, does anyone have any faith in the government’s ability to provide adequate infrastructure allowing for the widespread use of electrical cars? No, I didn’t think so. A few years ago we were all told to buy diesel cars as they were less “harmful” to the environment and now they turn around and screw us for that advice without a hint of irony. Where’s the discussion on how these electrical cars are powered, where the lithium will come from for the batteries and the environmental impact of that? Why is there no discussion on the counter argument to global warming, oh I’m sorry, “climate change”? Why has no one in the mainstream media highlighted that most of it is based on phoney science and the world has in fact been largely cooling for the past 20 years (there is an abundance of information out there you just need to do your own research). Why are the likes of Patrick Moore (founder of Greenpeace) and Piers Corbyn never on the mainstream media discussing man made “climate change”? The simple answer, as in most of these cases is, just follow the money. (Piers Corbyn is a well-known UK physicist and renowned meteorologist and Jeremy Corbyn’s brother, and founder of the website www.weatheraction.com/ - there is an unbelievable amounted of referenced and peer reviewed scientific data on there). And whist I am ranting on the subject, has anyone actually read the National Planning Framework 2040? I have and I suggest that you all do too npf.ie/wp-content/uploads/Project-Ireland-2040-NPF.pdf. Can someone please tell me why it is our population will increase by 1m by 2040 (note the use of “will” not “may” or “might”) and identify where that position was outlined in any election manifesto? I quote from the opening paragraph: “In the next twenty years we will grow by an extra one million people.” Really? Why is that? Who said so? Where will these people come from? Where will they will live? How will we provide adequate social services to them when we can’t even do that for the existing population now? Can someone please answer these questions? |
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Post by southward on Jun 21, 2019 18:18:30 GMT
This thing really gets my back up. One off housing IS clustered around town and villages. If An Taisce had their way rural communities would die completely, and it really pisses me off when they feign concern for rural Ireland, saying one off housing is killing rural Ireland when in fact banning one off housing would be the nail in the coffin of rural Ireland as most people on here would keenly appreciate. Ah now don't be so parochial and unpatriotic. We need rural areas emptied so we can build windfarms so we can power homes and businesses in the Pale. While of course leaving some select areas as a playground for metropolitan holiday-makers; a few peasants will be allowed stick around to staff these, the rest can bugger off. |
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 21, 2019 21:20:10 GMT
They will be plenty of available houses in rural Kerry when the current & last generation of farmers run their course................
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 22, 2019 10:47:08 GMT
the days of the guard meeting the nurse in the garda club, doing a jives, getting married and buying a 3 bed semi in Dublin suburbia are gone. Their combined salaries wont suffice now. They might get a pokey apartment.
A generation are living with their parents in Dublin, into their 30s.
Artists and musicians that a city needs are decamping to Leitrim driven out by rents in arty areas.
If you are a certain age, in secure employment with no mortgage it is a great place to live.
Its not much fun for people in their 20s though and no sign of things getting better for them.
Money goes further in Kerry in some respects
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Post by dc84 on Jun 22, 2019 10:59:17 GMT
the days of the guard meeting the nurse in the garda club, doing a jives, getting married and buying a 3 bed semi in Dublin suburbia are gone. Their combined salaries wont suffice now. They might get a pokey apartment. A generation are living with their parents in Dublin, into their 30s. Artists and musicians that a city needs are decamping to Leitrim driven out by rents in arty areas. If you are a certain age, in secure employment with no mortgage it is a great place to live. Its not much fun for people in their 20s though and no sign of things getting better for them. Money goes further in Kerry in some respects Hopefully with the new internet age and remote working being a very viable option for some jobs there will be a redistribution of people around the country. Went to a presentation with work recently re set up of labs in provincial towns with high powered servers and broadband great idea. |
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 22, 2019 11:08:30 GMT
the days of the guard meeting the nurse in the garda club, doing a jives, getting married and buying a 3 bed semi in Dublin suburbia are gone. Their combined salaries wont suffice now. They might get a pokey apartment. A generation are living with their parents in Dublin, into their 30s. Artists and musicians that a city needs are decamping to Leitrim driven out by rents in arty areas. If you are a certain age, in secure employment with no mortgage it is a great place to live. Its not much fun for people in their 20s though and no sign of things getting better for them. Money goes further in Kerry in some respects Hopefully with the new internet age and remote working being a very viable option for some jobs there will be a redistribution of people around the country. Went to a presentation with work recently re set up of labs in provincial towns with high powered servers and broadband great idea. I think Tralee has set up a hub of some sort to facilitate remote working. |
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Post by mitchelsontour on Jun 23, 2019 10:33:28 GMT
www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0622/1056894-gaa-see-dublin-as-blueprint-for-future-not-the-problem/GAA see Dublin as blueprint for future, not the present problem GAA executives admit Dublin's unprecedented dominance of Leinster could not have been predicted when they began to invest heavily in the capital, but there are no plans to split the county or pull the plug on their investment. Jim Gavin's side this afternoon go in search of their 15th Leinster SFC title in 16 years when they take on Meath in Croke Park - a monument to the success of the GAA's 2002 Strategic Review, which put in place the plan to resurrect Gaelic games in Dublin after decades of under-investment. That the Dubs are this summer seeking the first five in a row in the history of senior All-Irelands is proof that the strategic plan worked, perhaps better than anyone expected. "In all honesty, the authors of the report at the time wouldn't have envisaged that there would be such a period of pre-eminence at senior football level in particular for Dublin," GAA director general Tom Ryan told Marty Morrissey, as part of a special report to be broadcast on today's Sunday Game live programme at 1pm. "The thinking at the time was Dublin faced particular challenges in terms of where they stood in the scheme of things, GAA wise," added Ryan. "It is very important for us at national level that the capital city and capital county is in a good place from a GAA point of view. That was the thinking at the time." Dublin received almost €18million in game development grants between 2007 and 2018. Cork was the county that received the second largest amount, with €1.4m. "That money is ringfenced solely for coaching and games development in Dublin," Dublin county board chief executive John Costello told RTÉ GAA correspondent Morrissey. "We have 54 games promotion officers, we have three regional development officers, we have a hurling development officer and a football development officer. "Last year Dublin spent €3.6m on coaching and games development. Of that, €1.2m from central headquarters, the clubs paid 50% of the games promotion officers and the balance of the funding comes from the county board funds, through sponsorship and gate receipts." Dublin, with 10 intercounty sponsors on board, earned €1.46m in commercial revenue in 2017 - more than twice that of their closest rival in the financial stakes, Cork. However, Costello rejects the suggestion Dublin no longer need financial support from Croke Park. "We have huge challenges in Dublin. We have developing areas that we have no presence in: there are areas like Cherrywood, Hollystown and Adamstown." The Dublin county board has ambitions to develop up to four centres of excellence around the county, but Costello cites the price of land in the capital. "We paid €9.2m for Spawell, which works out as €275,000 an acre and it will probably cost us a similar sum to develop this land," he said. "We have the population, the rest of the country has the land. The population is no good unless you have the facilities and the land to play our games on." Dublin's dominance within Leinster has seen winning margins skyrocket as final attendances have halved in a decade, but Leinster Council CEO Michael Reynolds does not entertain the idea that the provincial championships are a lost cause. "The Leinster Championship is quite vibrant outside the Dublin scenario. During the summer, you have some very good matches - the same in the other provinces," said Reynolds. "I have no doubt the gap will close. It is not up to Dublin to come back, it's up to the rest of us to lift." Ryan echoes this sentiment - putting the responsibility on the GAA and the chasing pack to learn from Dublin and close the gap. "It is a question of learning what has been successful in Dublin and trying to apply that elsewhere, rather than taking a scalpel to something that has worked." Neither Ryan or Costello entertain the idea of splitting the county to level the playing field, with Ryan insisting that suggestion would have to come from Dublin themselves. Costello is unlikely to bring that to Congress: "I have never met anyone yet who wanted to play for a subsection of the county." The Dublin county board CEO believes people need to stop judging the flow of money in terms of All-Irelands and think about participation rates. "You look at it through the lense of the intercounty scene. What we look at are the club and participation rates. We have grown participation rates in football in the last 10 years by 58%, in hurling it is 98%. "In terms of games provision, last year we provided 11,500 fixtures for children between 8 and 12 age group. This is what we are doing. What we are concerned about is growing participation." These are huge numbers but are unlikely to offer much succour to fans of Meath, or Kildare, or Longford. However Costello believes, despite this massive investment and growth, that Gavin's team are exceptional, and not the new normal for Dublin. "Now we have a phenomenal bunch of players, we are winning, but it won't always be like that." I don't know what to think after reading this, maybe Real Madrid and Franco?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 23, 2019 10:48:39 GMT
"It is a question of learning what has been successful in Dublin and trying to apply that elsewhere, rather than taking a scalpel to something that has worked."
18 mill for all counties so?
Plans for 4 centres of excellence? What the f*ck would you need 4 for? Surely the duplication of resources is a waste of money. On one hand they are arguing that central funding shouldnt be reduced as they badly need it and on the other they are planning 4 bloody centres of excellence?? The neck on some lads is astounding
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