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Post by Mickmack on Jun 23, 2019 11:40:38 GMT
]GAA executives admit Dublin's unprecedented dominance of Leinster could not have been predicted when they began to invest heavily in the capital, but there are no plans to split the county or pull the plug on their investment.
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This is the classic way of introducing a big change.
Deny there are plans for it but putting the idea out there anyway.
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Post by southward on Jun 23, 2019 12:35:01 GMT
"It is a question of learning what has been successful in Dublin and trying to apply that elsewhere, rather than taking a scalpel to something that has worked." 18 mill for all counties so? Plans for 4 centres of excellence? What the f*ck would you need 4 for? Surely the duplication of resources is a waste of money. On one hand they are arguing that central funding shouldnt be reduced as they badly need it and on the other they are planning 4 bloody centres of excellence?? The neck on some lads is astounding A centre of excellence each for keepers, backs, midfielders and forwards. Sure while we're at it, how about a personal gym built for every Dublin GAA member over 12 years of age. |
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Post by dc84 on Jun 23, 2019 13:13:53 GMT
] GAA executives admit Dublin's unprecedented dominance of Leinster could not have been predicted when they began to invest heavily in the capital, but there are no plans to split the county or pull the plug on their investment.
This is the classic way of introducing a big change. Deny there are plans for it but putting the idea out there anyway. [/quote] There will be no push for this just look at some of the major players in the gaa world. 1.President John Hogan n.a. fianna dublin 2.treasurer Tom Ryan faughs dublin/Carlow 3.head of gpa Paul Flynn fingallians dublin 4.main rte anchor Joanne Cantwell st Brigid dublin 5. Sunday game host des Cahill cuala dublin That's a fair amount of the leadership/influencers in the gaa I don't really see who is going to push through any reduction in funding. As for splitting dublin it will never happen and probably shouldn't either be a very dangerous move |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 23, 2019 13:23:02 GMT
] GAA executives admit Dublin's unprecedented dominance of Leinster could not have been predicted when they began to invest heavily in the capital, but there are no plans to split the county or pull the plug on their investment.
This is the classic way of introducing a big change. Deny there are plans for it but putting the idea out there anyway. There will be no push for this just look at some of the major players in the gaa world. 1.President John Hogan n.a. fianna dublin 2.treasurer Tom Ryan faughs dublin/Carlow 3.head of gpa Paul Flynn fingallians dublin 4.main rte anchor Joanne Cantwell st Brigid dublin 5. Sunday game host des Cahill cuala dublin That's a fair amount of the leadership/influencers in the gaa I don't really see who is going to push through any reduction in funding. As for splitting dublin it will never happen and probably shouldn't either be a very dangerous move[/quote] It would be a very dark day for the GAA if Dublin was split. |
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 23, 2019 13:46:37 GMT
This is the classic way of introducing a big change. Deny there are plans for it but putting the idea out there anyway. There will be no push for this just look at some of the major players in the gaa world. 1.President John Hogan n.a. fianna dublin 2.treasurer Tom Ryan faughs dublin/Carlow 3.head of gpa Paul Flynn fingallians dublin 4.main rte anchor Joanne Cantwell st Brigid dublin 5. Sunday game host des Cahill cuala dublin That's a fair amount of the leadership/influencers in the gaa I don't really see who is going to push through any reduction in funding. As for splitting dublin it will never happen and probably shouldn't either be a very dangerous move It would be a very dark day for the GAA if Dublin was split. [/quote] maybe but something will have to give |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 23, 2019 13:51:38 GMT
Would it be that dark a day?
The expected demographic changes in the country all indicate an even greater concentration of population and wealth in the Dublin area - this will have to be managed and I think an inevitable solution is Dublin being split into 4
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Post by ballybunion on Jun 23, 2019 14:30:31 GMT
A few points:
Population of Dublin 1,400,000
Population of Leitrim: 32,000
Many other counties in a similar population situation to Leitrim.
Have small populated counties a chance of winning the All Ireland? !!!!
Many Kerry areas having to put 3 clubs together to field teams.Rural Ireland being ravaged.
I visited a North Dublin city club on a Saturday morning recently.There must have been 1000 Under 12s there.
On a side note
A very competitive Munster Final last night.
Looking at it now and the super competitive Ulster Championship Final doesn't look too competitive.
Although a Cavan goal just now,we might get decent finish.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 23, 2019 14:48:30 GMT
That article on rte.ie should have come with a health warning for those of us who drank a few pints after the game last night as it had me reaching for the sick bucket.
Costello and Ryan are bed fellows and you can be assured they both met to go through what each of them would say prior to the interview.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 23, 2019 16:17:52 GMT
When the Dubs talk about "its up to others to rise to our level" they are being particularly odious.
They were the ones who hand the begging bowl out 15 years ago and they want to hold onto the same level of funding even thought they are winning all around them.
Why the fcuk do other counties bother at all.
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Post by buck02 on Jun 23, 2019 16:25:44 GMT
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at half time when Joanne Cantwell said that the 47000 at the game had been treated to a decent first half.
The score was 0-5 to 0-1 Joanne.
This must be one of the worst games of championship football televised in recent years. If it was an Ulster final imagine what the critics would say.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 23, 2019 16:31:28 GMT
The shooting by Meath has been miserable. Plenty of industry all wasted.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 23, 2019 16:32:44 GMT
When the Dubs talk about "its up to others to rise to our level" they are being particularly odious. They were the ones who hand the begging bowl out 15 years ago and they want to hold onto the same level of funding even thought they are winning all around them. Why the fcuk do other counties bother at all. If Meath's shooting was within an arses roar of intercounty level there would have been a match today. |
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 23, 2019 16:42:51 GMT
Leinster championship well & truly euthanized today.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 19:02:15 GMT
When the Dubs talk about "its up to others to rise to our level" they are being particularly odious. They were the ones who hand the begging bowl out 15 years ago and they want to hold onto the same level of funding even thought they are winning all around them. Why the fcuk do other counties bother at all. If Meath's shooting was within an arses roar of intercounty level there would have been a match today. Yeah, if a match means Meath only lose by 10. Dublin missed three gilt edged goal chances also in the first half |
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 24, 2019 18:30:45 GMT
If Meath's shooting was within an arses roar of intercounty level there would have been a match today. Yeah, if a match means Meath only lose by 10. Dublin missed three gilt edged goal chances also in the first half Our resident apologist for the financial doping of Dublin is grasping at straws now. Good fun though all the same. 🙂 |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 24, 2019 18:43:02 GMT
Yeah, if a match means Meath only lose by 10. Dublin missed three gilt edged goal chances also in the first half Our resident apologist for the financial doping of Dublin is grasping at straws now. Good fun though all the same. 🙂 Dublin's advantages didn't kick Meath's wides. |
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 24, 2019 19:19:03 GMT
Some further feedback on the Leinster final.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jun 24, 2019 19:23:11 GMT
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at half time when Joanne Cantwell said that the 47000 at the game had been treated to a decent first half. The score was 0-5 to 0-1 Joanne.
This must be one of the worst games of championship football televised in recent years. If it was an Ulster final imagine what the critics would say. Without a doubt. Moreover, people can debate about the quality but the other 3 provincial finals were very entertaining and they were by and large actual contests. Only the Leinster final was an absolute farce in 2019. It was embarrassing for everybody. |
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 24, 2019 19:51:17 GMT
Our resident apologist for the financial doping of Dublin is grasping at straws now. Good fun though all the same. 🙂 Dublin's advantages didn't kick Meath's wides. Are the best players in Meath bothering with the county scene? Would you blame them if they decide to concentrate on playing with their clubs and spending time with their families. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 24, 2019 20:08:57 GMT
Dublin's advantages didn't kick Meath's wides. Are the best players in Meath bothering with the county scene? Would you blame them if they decide to concentrate on playing with their clubs and spending time with their families. I have no idea if the best players are lining out for Meath. There were some good players in the backs for Meath. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 20:32:49 GMT
Our resident apologist for the financial doping of Dublin is grasping at straws now. Good fun though all the same. 🙂 Dublin's advantages didn't kick Meath's wides. No, but don't pretend that those wides made a blind bit of difference to the final outcome or that it would have even been a close game |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 24, 2019 21:04:44 GMT
For years I've been hearing that the cream of the crops up the Northerly direction have been bowing out, and yes, sometimes I get told porkies but not always and I measure what I take on board in enemy territory - unfair fair-game! I've heard it of Meath .. but sure didn't Rory O'Carroll take off too!
Still, I then look at Kerry panels and not a NK man to be seen. Am I joining the wrong dots? NK is depopulating big time I'd say, becoming a big wind/solar farm, little tourism and farmers farms getting bigger with more mechanisation so fewer bodies, God be with the 6' bale that made men of boys, when boys were men!
On the other hand big population counties like Cork and Galway aren't doing it, though there is also that 'sporadic factor' as wan Paul Galvin might say, and then aren't they also dual counties. As a share of the county population and over say a decade, is NK under-represented in our county panels?, bearing in mind and come to think of it, we are also a 'dual' territory?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 24, 2019 21:10:08 GMT
Dublin's advantages didn't kick Meath's wides. No, but don't pretend that those wides made a blind bit of difference to the final outcome or that it would have even been a close game Dublin were out of kilter in that first half. Meath were defending very well. The score was 0-5 / 0-1 at half time. The wides were killer. Do I think Meath would have won? No. But of course it would have been closer for longer. |
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 24, 2019 21:55:46 GMT
Declan Rowley the Longford selector calls on all Leinster counties bar Dublin to pull out of the Leinster championship till matters are addressed.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 24, 2019 22:04:14 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 24, 2019 22:05:47 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 24, 2019 22:25:04 GMT
a boycott would be interesting in fairness. I hope it happens |
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Post by veteran on Jun 25, 2019 16:31:43 GMT
So, a Longford selector suggests a boycott until the “Dublin problem” is addressed.
I was listening to Oisin McConville yesterday and it was put to him that Monaghan’s defeat over the weekend possibly signaled their demise for a long time, end of an era etc. Oisin was having none of it, replying that the work being done at “underage level In Monaghan is phenomenal” He repeated the statement for emphasis. Of course we saw evidence of that ourselves when we had to struggle fiercely to beat them in the minor championship last year. It was so gratifying to hear what Oisin said.
I wonder is there “phenomenal work “ being done at underage level in Longford and in all the other counties who speak with the beal bocht. Money of course is of paramount importance but it needs to be matched with vision and hard toil. While waiting for the money , perhaps Longford officialdom would make a visit to Monaghan and see if there is a blueprint there they could replicate. Of course it could be that bellyaching comes easier.
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Post by thebluepanther on Jun 25, 2019 18:33:30 GMT
As the league was coming to a conclusion , there was optimism about the upcoming All Ireland Championship.
Tyrone , Monaghan ,Kerry had beaten Dublin. Mayo were rejuvenated under Horan , Meath in Leinster had been promoted to Div 1.
The main Challengers to Dublin in no particular order were Tyrone, Kerry, Mayo with Galway and Donegal as outsiders.
Personally i was really looking forward to the championship.
Since then Tyrone, Mayo , Galway have lost, Kerry looked very vunerable against Cork and this coupled with Dublin's dismantling of Kildare and Meath seems to have drained a lot of the optimism .
Dublin appear to be further ahead of the pack and there seems a greater anger towards Dublin because of this . Talk of Boycotting Leinster , basically people looking for a way to punish Dublin , maybe it will make them feel better about themselves or hide their own short comings i dont know.
Guys on here outraged at Dublin ,Mick Mack hoping theirs a boycott of Leinster, others wanting Dublin split .
Ill ask this , after you beat us fairly in Tralee in the League, was there all this outrage.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 25, 2019 20:23:20 GMT
As the league was coming to a conclusion , there was optimism about the upcoming All Ireland Championship. Tyrone , Monaghan ,Kerry had beaten Dublin. Mayo were rejuvenated under Horan , Meath in Leinster had been promoted to Div 1. The main Challengers to Dublin in no particular order were Tyrone, Kerry, Mayo with Galway and Donegal as outsiders. Personally i was really looking forward to the championship. Since then Tyrone, Mayo , Galway have lost, Kerry looked very vunerable against Cork and this coupled with Dublin's dismantling of Kildare and Meath seems to have drained a lot of the optimism . Dublin appear to be further ahead of the pack and there seems a greater anger towards Dublin because of this . Talk of Boycotting Leinster , basically people looking for a way to punish Dublin , maybe it will make them feel better about themselves or hide their own short comings i dont know. Guys on here outraged at Dublin ,Mick Mack hoping theirs a boycott of Leinster, others wanting Dublin split . Ill ask this , after you beat us fairly in Tralee in the League, was there all this outrage. D Its the hurling i am concerned about if you want to know. Ten years ago we had the startled earwigs game v Kerry. But all the financial doping was beginning to put down green shoots. So the hurling could quickly go the way of the football. In 17 years time there will be an extra 400000 people in Dublin. So wake up, smell the coffee. There is no such thing as a free lunch. The split up of Dublin is inevitable. As for the game in Tralee, if you read anything into that you are naive... but i dont think you are that. |
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