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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 9, 2024 0:41:24 GMT
If any one player turned 09 around, it was Mike McCarthy. His role in the 2nd half of the Antrim game was the start of it. Definitely. Again showing how it was one of Kerrys most underappreciated players ever. I'm not saying Kennelly played no part in it all, he obviously did, it's just the whole coming back to win an All-Ireland story overshadowed his overall impact. I say good for *ing him.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 9, 2024 0:44:32 GMT
And PS: from a brittle place Kerry reached the final where defeat (Cork) was unacceptable.
I don't know if it was the right book, but it could well have been.
I think Darragh basically said that losing to Cork in the 2009 final would have made the whole thing (Kerry football) a big waste of time.
Or something like that.
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Post by veteran on Jun 9, 2024 10:04:02 GMT
The aspect of the Antrim game in Tullamore that has stuck with me was the performance of the referee, I think he was from Donegal. He gave everything to Antrim in the first half. As he was coming off at half time the huge Kerry following in the stand stood up and gave him a blood curdling reception. In the second half he was a changed man and gave some dubious decisions to Kerry, dubious in the sense that those decisions were going Antrim’s way in the first half.
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Post by thehermit on Jun 9, 2024 10:22:40 GMT
It looked ropey there for a while alright in Tullamore, I guess because Kerry's confidence looked so brittle at that point you feared the worst if Antrim got any sort of momentum. Exactly. The first half was absolutely terrible, not helped by a high, swirling wind. There was a sense of despair in the ground at just how poor we were and the prospect of an ignominious exit in the qualifiers. Antrim smelled blood and fought like tigers that day. The second period was better but still Kerry couldn't shake them off, never more than a point or 2 in it until just before the end. A Paul Galvin goal and a couple of late frees eventually saw us home but the relief was tempered by the very real possibility of a hiding by the Dubs the following week. That one didn't quite materialise. Great Kerry support in Tullamore that day and a terrific atmosphere. It was needed. Yep there was a big Kerry crowd, a few of us got an early train down from Dublin and a friendly local advised us of where we could get an early house as we came out of the station. Sure enough a knock at the side door of an establishment near O'Connor Park was greeted with a cautious half opening of the door, then a recognition of our jerseys and a bid inside. Enjoyed a few porters behind the curtains before the pub 'officially' opened. I'm fairly sure I spotted Gerry Adams in the crowd that day too. Funny enough on the train back I remember quite a few of us glued to our earphones as the draw for the Q-finals was being made live on Sunday sport and the announcement that it was Dublin v Kerry was followed by a big cheer and a collective rubbing of hands in our carriage. I think the prevailing mood was if anything would concentrate the mind and rise Kerry from its stupor it would be Dublin in a packed Croke Park. That next game was actually on the bank holiday Monday (whatever happened to playing games on bank holidays!!). I woke pretty confident we'd find a way. But my God the noise from the Hill that day just before the throw in!! I was in the Upper Cusack and you could actually feel the vibrations in the air made by the noise. Those moments and the same minute or two before the 2022 semi-final are the loudest I've ever experienced in Croker.
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Post by hurlingman on Jun 9, 2024 16:54:58 GMT
With talk about that 09 season a few things.
Firstly it's hard to believe it was 15 years ago now!
Secondly it shows how much football and the championship has changed. That year Kerry played Cork three times, Longford, Sligo, Antrim, Dublin and Meath in the championship. All bar Dublin are now so far behind everyone else. That time Longford were always a very good qualifier team and now they're struggling in the Tailteann Cup. Aa we seen last week Meath are nowhere near the top level anymore similar with Sligo. Antrim to their credit seem to be using the Tailteann Cup to get themselves back together.
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Post by horsebox77 on Jun 9, 2024 17:03:10 GMT
On a completely different note... the great Micko is 88 years old today, what a gaa man...
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Post by thehermit on Jun 9, 2024 17:57:29 GMT
You just have to tip your hat to Limerick, even if you're a Banner fan. Clare will rue those couple of goal chances spurned but the reality is a team needs to be practically flawless in their performance to get anything off Limerick in that form. Six Munster titles in a row is an incredible achievement.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 9, 2024 20:21:59 GMT
You just have to tip your hat to Limerick, even if you're a Banner fan. Clare will rue those couple of goal chances spurned but the reality is a team needs to be practically flawless in their performance to get anything off Limerick in that form. Six Munster titles in a row is an incredible achievement. Limerick have a backroom team of 53!
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Post by john4 on Jun 9, 2024 20:42:11 GMT
You just have to tip your hat to Limerick, even if you're a Banner fan. Clare will rue those couple of goal chances spurned but the reality is a team needs to be practically flawless in their performance to get anything off Limerick in that form. Six Munster titles in a row is an incredible achievement. Limerick have a backroom team of 53! Anyone know how many we have?
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Post by jackiel on Jun 10, 2024 8:46:52 GMT
You just have to tip your hat to Limerick, even if you're a Banner fan. Clare will rue those couple of goal chances spurned but the reality is a team needs to be practically flawless in their performance to get anything off Limerick in that form. Six Munster titles in a row is an incredible achievement. Limerick have a backroom team of 53! I'd say that surpasses Dublin to be fair. Don't know how many Kerry have but nothing near 53 for sure.
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Post by thehermit on Jun 10, 2024 8:55:24 GMT
You just have to tip your hat to Limerick, even if you're a Banner fan. Clare will rue those couple of goal chances spurned but the reality is a team needs to be practically flawless in their performance to get anything off Limerick in that form. Six Munster titles in a row is an incredible achievement. Limerick have a backroom team of 53! What must Dublin have!!!!
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Post by ciarrai74 on Jun 10, 2024 9:26:57 GMT
Mighty achievement by Limerick doing 6 in a row Munster titles. My father informs me Kerry won 8 in a row football Munster titles from 1975-1982.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 10, 2024 10:15:58 GMT
Mighty achievement by Limerick doing 6 in a row Munster titles. My father informs me Kerry won 8 in a row football Munster titles from 1975-1982. Are Dublin on 14 in a row? At least Kerry had to beat Cork.
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Post by ciarrai74 on Jun 10, 2024 10:28:18 GMT
Cork were indeed a decent team back then
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Post by veteran on Jun 10, 2024 10:40:59 GMT
Mighty achievement by Limerick doing 6 in a row Munster titles. My father informs me Kerry won 8 in a row football Munster titles from 1975-1982. Also won eight in a row from 1958-1965. Were sensationally beaten by Waterford in Waterford in 1957 when they were so short handed that the Kerryman reporter had to play in goals . Not sure of the back story. All the more surprising when they had won the All-Ireland two years previously and won it again two years later. Must have been some dispute I presume. Perhaps somebody else has the background to that upheaval.
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Post by Jo90 on Jun 10, 2024 10:59:45 GMT
Mighty achievement by Limerick doing 6 in a row Munster titles. My father informs me Kerry won 8 in a row football Munster titles from 1975-1982. Also won eight in a row from 1958-1965. Were sensationally beaten by Waterford in Waterford in 1957 when they were so short handed that the Kerryman reporter had to play in goals . Not sure of the back story. All the more surprising when they had won the All-Ireland two years previously and won it again two years later. Must have been some dispute I presume. Perhaps somebody else has the background to that upheaval. m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/can-lightning-strike-again/26294729.html
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 10, 2024 11:05:52 GMT
It is being reported that 53 is the backroom team PLUS the panel of players.
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Post by thehermit on Jun 10, 2024 11:16:33 GMT
Also won eight in a row from 1958-1965. Were sensationally beaten by Waterford in Waterford in 1957 when they were so short handed that the Kerryman reporter had to play in goals . Not sure of the back story. All the more surprising when they had won the All-Ireland two years previously and won it again two years later. Must have been some dispute I presume. Perhaps somebody else has the background to that upheaval. m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/can-lightning-strike-again/26294729.htmlGreat stuff, can't beat a bit of GAA history!
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Post by glengael on Jun 10, 2024 11:49:15 GMT
It is being reported that 53 is the backroom team PLUS the panel of players. It has since been clarified that he meant 53 including the players, so 37 on the playing panel and 16 support staff. Jarlath Burns was asked about it on Morning Ireland this morning and stated that he himself queried it yesterday and it was clarified as above.
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Post by southward on Jun 10, 2024 18:25:07 GMT
Limerick have a backroom team of 53! I'd say that surpasses Dublin to be fair. Don't know how many Kerry have but nothing near 53 for sure. The Golden Years team probably just had the selectors and Leo Griffin.
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Post by Ballydonoghoor on Jun 10, 2024 20:35:33 GMT
I've just been to the baptismal font - a born again I am and I can highly recommend it - celebrating at your Christening instead of watching others get sloshed, etc!
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Post by thehermit on Jun 11, 2024 11:15:45 GMT
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Post by playitfair on Jun 11, 2024 13:14:53 GMT
Straight off, I must say say that I like a lot of them and certainly worth trialing. The proposal of one v one for the start of the match makes a lot of sense as the throw in has become a wrestling match and results in a fair few injuries.
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Post by southward on Jun 11, 2024 17:42:44 GMT
Long-range points, yes. Four point goals - um, maybe.
The advantage thing though, is it going to be like rugby, you get an indefinite free-play before going back for a free? - seems over the top.
As for a free play before taking a mark - that seems ridiculous, especially considering what you can get a mark for. Like, no foul has been committed here. I've yet to hear anyone ever speak in favour of the forward mark yet here we are enhancing it instead of abolishing.
And, and, and...once again, no restricting of the handpass. Everything else is only pointless tinkering then.
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Post by john4 on Jun 11, 2024 17:56:37 GMT
Long-range points, yes. Four point goals - um, maybe. The advantage thing though, is it going to be like rugby, you get an indefinite free-play before going back for a free? - seems over the top. As for a free play before taking a mark - that seems ridiculous, especially considering what you can get a mark for. Like, no foul has been committed here. I've yet to hear anyone ever speak in favour of the forward mark yet here we are enhancing it instead of abolishing. And, and, and...once again, no restricting of the handpass. Everything else is only pointless tinkering then. I think the forward mark is underutilized. People give out about them but they're still relatively rare. I don't know why teams don't use it more. I've seen hundreds of opportunities for these handy shots not availed of. Surprised more coaches haven't twigged the value in these
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Post by southward on Jun 11, 2024 18:13:09 GMT
Long-range points, yes. Four point goals - um, maybe. The advantage thing though, is it going to be like rugby, you get an indefinite free-play before going back for a free? - seems over the top. As for a free play before taking a mark - that seems ridiculous, especially considering what you can get a mark for. Like, no foul has been committed here. I've yet to hear anyone ever speak in favour of the forward mark yet here we are enhancing it instead of abolishing. And, and, and...once again, no restricting of the handpass. Everything else is only pointless tinkering then. I think the forward mark is underutilized. People give out about them but they're still relatively rare. I don't know why teams don't use it more. I've seen hundreds of opportunities for these handy shots not availed of. Surprised more coaches haven't twigged the value in these I'm guessing it's because it's an artificial construct rather than a natural or instinctive manoevure. Players don't think to utilise it in the heat of battle. Some of the marks that are availed of are ludicrous - totally unearned free shots. I'd hate to see an AI decided that way.
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Post by john4 on Jun 11, 2024 18:26:33 GMT
I think the forward mark is underutilized. People give out about them but they're still relatively rare. I don't know why teams don't use it more. I've seen hundreds of opportunities for these handy shots not availed of. Surprised more coaches haven't twigged the value in these I'm guessing it's because it's an artificial construct rather than a natural or instinctive manoevure. Players don't think to utilise it in the heat of battle. Some of the marks that are availed of are ludicrous - totally unearned free shots. I'd hate to see an AI decided that way. I'd hate to see an AI decided that way. I wouldn't mind if it was in our favour 🙂
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Post by Premier on Jun 11, 2024 20:48:38 GMT
I think the forward mark is underutilized. People give out about them but they're still relatively rare. I don't know why teams don't use it more. I've seen hundreds of opportunities for these handy shots not availed of. Surprised more coaches haven't twigged the value in these I'm guessing it's because it's an artificial construct rather than a natural or instinctive manoevure. Players don't think to utilise it in the heat of battle. Some of the marks that are availed of are ludicrous - totally unearned free shots. I'd hate to see an AI decided that way. We didn’t mind it when Graham pumped those balls on top of Clifford against Galway in the AI final 2 years ago
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Post by southward on Jun 11, 2024 21:36:07 GMT
I'm guessing it's because it's an artificial construct rather than a natural or instinctive manoevure. Players don't think to utilise it in the heat of battle. Some of the marks that are availed of are ludicrous - totally unearned free shots. I'd hate to see an AI decided that way. We didn’t mind it when Graham pumped those balls on top of Clifford against Galway in the AI final 2 years ago True. Doesn't make it right though. And at least those were the sort of marks the rule was intended to cater for, not these ridiculous ankle-high catches off a 20 yard poke.
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Post by bishop on Jun 11, 2024 22:17:54 GMT
Why don't they start with restricting the goalkeeper to goalkeeping? Not allowed outside the 21 for example. Easy for referees to implement at county AND club level. Might stop a lot of mass defences
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