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Post by likeitornot on Oct 15, 2024 10:18:40 GMT
If Fionan goes it will be near impossible to replace him huge loss. Its staggering and worrying the amount of quality hurlers Kerry lose. Link Darragh O Connell losing him when he's just coming into his prime. But nothing will be done about it anytime soon. Darragh was going to go anyway... he was not interested in staying around... good club hurler but lacked that edge you need for intercounty... I think it will be the same with Mackessy... Bryan Murphy is another example... well good enough for Sarsfields and doing very well it must be said but just not quite good enough for Liam McCarthy.. |
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Post by kerryexile5 on Oct 15, 2024 11:03:25 GMT
Link Darragh O Connell losing him when he's just coming into his prime. But nothing will be done about it anytime soon. Darragh was going to go anyway... he was not interested in staying around... good club hurler but lacked that edge you need for intercounty... I think it will be the same with Mackessy... Bryan Murphy is another example... well good enough for Sarsfields and doing very well it must be said but just not quite good enough for Liam McCarthy.. To be fair to the likes of Darragh & Fionan, North Kerry and Tralee are small places and both lads are highly educated and wanted to explore different work opportunities in different counties and that included hurling, no more so than Fionans football teammate, Rob Monahan over in Australia. Darragh was never going to stay in Abbeydorney for life whereas I think Fionan will be back in Ardfert in a few years when the Kilkenny club or county project is over. Both great chaps by they way, really down to earth guys. |
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 15, 2024 13:24:51 GMT
Darragh was going to go anyway... he was not interested in staying around... good club hurler but lacked that edge you need for intercounty... I think it will be the same with Mackessy... Bryan Murphy is another example... well good enough for Sarsfields and doing very well it must be said but just not quite good enough for Liam McCarthy.. To be fair to the likes of Darragh & Fionan, North Kerry and Tralee are small places and both lads are highly educated and wanted to explore different work opportunities in different counties and that included hurling, no more so than Fionans football teammate, Rob Monahan over in Australia. Darragh was never going to stay in Abbeydorney for life whereas I think Fionan will be back in Ardfert in a few years when the Kilkenny club or county project is over. Both great chaps by they way, really down to earth guys. Well I don't think Darragh O Connell would have stayed in Abbeydorney but had he been on the football panel something would have been done to accommodate him. |
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 15, 2024 15:29:27 GMT
Looking like a big rebuild for Tweek. Already down Fionan Mackassey, Dan Goggin and Gavin Dooley. More will follow. Not sure the younger players from the 20s team of the last 2 years are up to it yet. It will be a tough 2025. Hopefully the trend of bringing in players from outside the county who can't make their club team is finished. I was against the outside players thing in general after a few who played with Kerry. However I remember seeing when Job Quade was Kildare manager he had asked 40 or so players into training and only 20 showed up. Once lads are committed I have no issues with it. What players couldn't make their club teams? Lot so long ago there was Kerry lads on the senior panel who weren't starting for their own clubs. |
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 15, 2024 15:32:24 GMT
Link Darragh O Connell losing him when he's just coming into his prime. But nothing will be done about it anytime soon. Darragh was going to go anyway... he was not interested in staying around... good club hurler but lacked that edge you need for intercounty... I think it will be the same with Mackessy... Bryan Murphy is another example... well good enough for Sarsfields and doing very well it must be said but just not quite good enough for Liam McCarthy.. Well he was playing with Dublin in the Liam McCarthy. Again Bryan Murphy played with Kerry in the Leinster championship so by default the McCarthy Cup. |
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Post by veteran on Oct 15, 2024 15:37:51 GMT
To be fair to the likes of Darragh & Fionan, North Kerry and Tralee are small places and both lads are highly educated and wanted to explore different work opportunities in different counties and that included hurling, no more so than Fionans football teammate, Rob Monahan over in Australia. Darragh was never going to stay in Abbeydorney for life whereas I think Fionan will be back in Ardfert in a few years when the Kilkenny club or county project is over. Both great chaps by they way, really down to earth guys. Well I don't think Darragh O Connell would have stayed in Abbeydorney but had he been on the football panel something would have been done to accommodate him. Hurlingman. I wonder about the football/hurling thing, What was done to “accommodate” Robert Monaghan and Cillian Burke? |
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Post by powerhurl on Oct 15, 2024 17:25:23 GMT
Burke and Monaghan are pursuing professional contracts. The county board im sure could do something to keep Mackessy playing with Kerry but if his heart is set on moving theres nothing more to it.
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 15, 2024 17:44:47 GMT
Well I don't think Darragh O Connell would have stayed in Abbeydorney but had he been on the football panel something would have been done to accommodate him. Hurlingman. I wonder about the football/hurling thing, What was done to “accommodate” Robert Monaghan and Cillian Burke? Completely different story. Monaghan and Burke are moving to the other side of the world on professional contracts. If a member of the Kerry football panel was working in Dublin the CB would be very quick to find a way to keep him. Robert Monaghan is equally a loss to the Kerry hurlers as he is the footballers. |
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Post by veteran on Oct 15, 2024 19:26:51 GMT
Burke and Monaghan are pursuing professional contracts. The county board im sure could do something to keep Mackessy playing with Kerry but if his heart is set on moving theres nothing more to it. “If his heart is set on moving there’s nothing more to it” . Sure that’s the nub of the situation. The same applied to Darragh O’Connell I suspect . As far as I can recall, Darragh is a primary school teacher. School Principals are crying out for teachers all over the country, so much so that several teachers have come out of retirement to fill the gap. I have no doubt that North Kerry/Kerry is no different and that several schools would employ Darragh in a heartbeat , if that is/was his wish. Clearly, his heart’s desire is to continue in Dublin , very likely for a variety of reasons. I imagine any intervention by the County Board would not influence that decision. |
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Post by topoftown on Oct 15, 2024 20:27:35 GMT
Looking like a big rebuild for Tweek. Already down Fionan Mackassey, Dan Goggin and Gavin Dooley. More will follow. Not sure the younger players from the 20s team of the last 2 years are up to it yet. It will be a tough 2025. Hopefully the trend of bringing in players from outside the county who can't make their club team is finished. I was against the outside players thing in general after a few who played with Kerry. However I remember seeing when Job Quade was Kildare manager he had asked 40 or so players into training and only 20 showed up. Once lads are committed I have no issues with it. What players couldn't make their club teams? Lot so long ago there was Kerry lads on the senior panel who weren't starting for their own clubs. The two lads on the panel from Kilmallock. Thankfully the days of lads not making their club team and on the county panel are gone. |
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 15, 2024 21:11:20 GMT
I was against the outside players thing in general after a few who played with Kerry. However I remember seeing when Job Quade was Kildare manager he had asked 40 or so players into training and only 20 showed up. Once lads are committed I have no issues with it. What players couldn't make their club teams? Lot so long ago there was Kerry lads on the senior panel who weren't starting for their own clubs. The two lads on the panel from Kilmallock. Thankfully the days of lads not making their club team and on the county panel are gone. I'd forgotten about them actually. I definitely think senior and higher intermediate club players from the likes of Cork, Clare, Limerick etc would be an option for Kerry once they're committed and not like that keeper from Tipp when Eamonn Kelly was in charge. Until more players start to make the step up from South Kerry etc I think it's something to look at imo. |
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Post by likeitornot on Oct 16, 2024 7:09:41 GMT
Darragh was going to go anyway... he was not interested in staying around... good club hurler but lacked that edge you need for intercounty... I think it will be the same with Mackessy... Bryan Murphy is another example... well good enough for Sarsfields and doing very well it must be said but just not quite good enough for Liam McCarthy.. Well he was playing with Dublin in the Liam McCarthy. Again Bryan Murphy played with Kerry in the Leinster championship so by default the McCarthy Cup. Yeah Darragh played a couple of games with Dublin he was playing when they were beaten by Laois when Eddie Brennan was managing them in 2019.. but he never established himself on the team.. not being critical of the guy.. he achieved alot more than what I ever did and was very good for Cuala against Tony Kelly's Ballyea in all ire club final a number of years ago and he now is making a name for himself on TG4 doing commentary... and more power to him... On Bryan Murphy yes he played with Kerry.. would he have made Cork team say 5 years ago..? |
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 16, 2024 10:48:56 GMT
Well he was playing with Dublin in the Liam McCarthy. Again Bryan Murphy played with Kerry in the Leinster championship so by default the McCarthy Cup. Yeah Darragh played a couple of games with Dublin he was playing when they were beaten by Laois when Eddie Brennan was managing them in 2019.. but he never established himself on the team.. not being critical of the guy.. he achieved alot more than what I ever did and was very good for Cuala against Tony Kelly's Ballyea in all ire club final a number of years ago and he now is making a name for himself on TG4 doing commentary... and more power to him... On Bryan Murphy yes he played with Kerry.. would he have made Cork team say 5 years ago..? There's no way to answer if he would have made the Cork team. But he would have been in his mid 20s and if Sarsfeilds were challenging for titles you'd think he'd be in and around their panel. |
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Post by powerhurl on Oct 16, 2024 12:10:26 GMT
Tweeks press conference is in todays kerryman. Interesting read he says 55 to 60 players have been contacted without giving too much away he hopefull Mike O Leary could come in when o Dorney finish there campaign
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Oct 16, 2024 13:09:36 GMT
Tweeks press conference is in todays kerryman. Interesting read he says 55 to 60 players have been contacted without giving too much away he hopefull Mike O Leary could come in when o Dorney finish there campaign Wow.. if you take each of the 8 North Kerry villages starting 15s you have 120 starting players. I know there’s a few from other parts of the county but nearly every second starting club player being contacted really puts into perspective the pick available. |
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Post by kerryexile5 on Oct 17, 2024 20:11:21 GMT
Tweeks press conference is in todays kerryman. Interesting read he says 55 to 60 players have been contacted without giving too much away he hopefull Mike O Leary could come in when o Dorney finish there campaign Wow.. if you take each of the 8 North Kerry villages starting 15s you have 120 starting players. I know there’s a few from other parts of the county but nearly every second starting club player being contacted really puts into perspective the pick available. Tweek has no choice really, he is already down the following top players who all played club championship with their clubs this summer with the exception of Mackessy Fionan Mackessy - age 26- hurling in Kilkenny Daniel Collins - age 30- retired from county Podge Boyle - age 29- retired from county Barry Mahony - age 25 - won’t commit to county hurling Jack Goulding - age 27 - going to Oz Dan Goggins - age 25 - travelling Gavin Dooley - age 24 - travelling Will the following players commit now under new management? Paudie O Connor - Kilmoyley? Mike Leary - Abbeydorney? Jason Diggins - Causeway? Kevin Goulding - Ballyduff? Kerry have serious hurlers, the problem is they never all seem to the panel all at the one time so performances yo-yo from season to season depending on who committed. |
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Post by powerhurl on Oct 18, 2024 6:59:07 GMT
Any word on Eoin Ross is he still in Australia. And any news of a training panel other counties are naming panels now
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Post by hurlingman on Oct 18, 2024 13:12:56 GMT
Tweeks press conference is in todays kerryman. Interesting read he says 55 to 60 players have been contacted without giving too much away he hopefull Mike O Leary could come in when o Dorney finish there campaign Wow.. if you take each of the 8 North Kerry villages starting 15s you have 120 starting players. I know there’s a few from other parts of the county but nearly every second starting club player being contacted really puts into perspective the pick available. You can see why the likes of Kerry start to look at lads from outside to come in. Also you can see how losing only 1 or 2 players puts Kerry under pressure. |
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Post by likeitornot on Oct 20, 2024 15:48:54 GMT
Bryan Murphy playing very well in Cork County final marking one of the best players in the country Cork player Ciaran Joyce
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