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Post by Mickmack on Aug 14, 2017 11:36:23 GMT
What's too much influence? Demanding and getting more game time than Andy Moran in 2016 |
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Post by baurtregaum on Aug 14, 2017 13:02:16 GMT
Just occurred to me today that they will be wearing those blue jerseys on Sunday..... I like the blue anyway. I would prefer the green and gold as it seems to be worth a few points to us. But there you go. I presume Mayo are wearing that red and black one they had in Tralee? We are not so good against that jersey in Croke Park historically!! Glad I'm not superstitious.. |
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 14, 2017 13:12:36 GMT
What's too much influence? Demanding and getting more game time than Andy Moran in 2016 I wouldn't lose too much sleep over that. |
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 14, 2017 13:14:42 GMT
Just occurred to me today that they will be wearing those blue jerseys on Sunday..... I don't know why we can't flip the green and gold and have a predominately gold coloured jersey for these games with a green hoop? |
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 14, 2017 13:33:39 GMT
Wondering what our match-ups in the backs will be the next day?
I presume it will be enright on Cillian O'Connor? I know he got a roasting in 2014 but, Enright has come along way from then. Only thing is that Enright likes to go in hard and Cilliin isn't opposed to making the mostof any contact so he will have to thread carefully.
I would drop Fionn for Killian. Simply put,he is a good footballer but, not a tight corner back. He cant be caught ball watching. I would let Killian take Andy Moran. Killian can definitely beat him for speed and is physical enough to go with it. He also is a good calm figure which we could need in the full back line.
Normally Mayo play with two up in the full forward line and drop a man back from the half forward line as a sweeper.
I would put Mark Griffin on Jason Doherty. Moran cleaned Griffin out in Tralee. A situation not lost on anybody I'd say. He can match him for strength and also pace. Playing out the field will suit griffin better. He always plays better against the more physical players.
The half backline I presume will see Crowley on O'Shea. The only worry is that we have a smallish enough half backline in terms of Mayos size in this area. Ideally when McLoughin goes back you would like to see Paul Murphy operate as the free man but, it might make more sense to let Morely so it so that he can hold the centre and stop and runs. I wonder will we commit as many half backs to the forward runs or choose to 'mind the gap' as it were? We might rely on turnovers and hitting fast and effectively on the break when mayo have men committed forward?
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 14, 2017 13:34:44 GMT
Just occurred to me today that they will be wearing those blue jerseys on Sunday..... I don't know why we can't flip the green and gold and have a predominately gold coloured jersey for these games with a green hoop? Or like the one we wore in 1997? I presume its because your traditional away jersey is the province you represent. Even though many counties don't operate that way |
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Aug 14, 2017 14:36:13 GMT
Wondering what our match-ups in the backs will be the next day? I presume it will be enright on Cillian O'Connor? I know he got a roasting in 2014 but, Enright has come along way from then. Only thing is that Enright likes to go in hard and Cilliin isn't opposed to making the mostof any contact so he will have to thread carefully. I would drop Fionn for Killian. Simply put,he is a good footballer but, not a tight corner back. He cant be caught ball watching. I would let Killian take Andy Moran. Killian can definitely beat him for speed and is physical enough to go with it. He also is a good calm figure which we could need in the full back line. Normally Mayo play with two up in the full forward line and drop a man back from the half forward line as a sweeper. I would put Mark Griffin on Jason Doherty. Moran cleaned Griffin out in Tralee. A situation not lost on anybody I'd say. He can match him for strength and also pace. Playing out the field will suit griffin better. He always plays better against the more physical players. The half backline I presume will see Crowley on O'Shea. The only worry is that we have a smallish enough half backline in terms of Mayos size in this area. Ideally when McLoughin goes back you would like to see Paul Murphy operate as the free man but, it might make more sense to let Morely so it so that he can hold the centre and stop and runs. I wonder will we commit as many half backs to the forward runs or choose to 'mind the gap' as it were? We might rely on turnovers and hitting fast and effectively on the break when mayo have men committed forward? Agreed that Moran did Griffin for pace in Tralee, however, the sod is a lot drier and I doubt he will be as exposed this time around. |
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Post by kerryboy83 on Aug 14, 2017 15:49:35 GMT
Wondering what our match-ups in the backs will be the next day? I presume it will be enright on Cillian O'Connor? I know he got a roasting in 2014 but, Enright has come along way from then. Only thing is that Enright likes to go in hard and Cilliin isn't opposed to making the mostof any contact so he will have to thread carefully. I would drop Fionn for Killian. Simply put,he is a good footballer but, not a tight corner back. He cant be caught ball watching. I would let Killian take Andy Moran. Killian can definitely beat him for speed and is physical enough to go with it. He also is a good calm figure which we could need in the full back line. Normally Mayo play with two up in the full forward line and drop a man back from the half forward line as a sweeper. I would put Mark Griffin on Jason Doherty. Moran cleaned Griffin out in Tralee. A situation not lost on anybody I'd say. He can match him for strength and also pace. Playing out the field will suit griffin better. He always plays better against the more physical players. The half backline I presume will see Crowley on O'Shea. The only worry is that we have a smallish enough half backline in terms of Mayos size in this area. Ideally when McLoughin goes back you would like to see Paul Murphy operate as the free man but, it might make more sense to let Morely so it so that he can hold the centre and stop and runs. I wonder will we commit as many half backs to the forward runs or choose to 'mind the gap' as it were? We might rely on turnovers and hitting fast and effectively on the break when mayo have men committed forward? Agreed that Moran did Griffin for pace in Tralee, however, the sod is a lot drier and I doubt he will be as exposed this time around. What about Lee Keegan!? |
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 14, 2017 15:51:03 GMT
Agreed that Moran did Griffin for pace in Tralee, however, the sod is a lot drier and I doubt he will be as exposed this time around. What about Lee Keegan!? Do you think Lee Keegan will be playing in the forwards? It would probably make sense in a way. Think he is better cmoming onto the ball than facing it. Unless they start him in the half forwards to play as a sweeper / mark Donaghy. |
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Post by kerryboy83 on Aug 14, 2017 15:51:23 GMT
Agreed that Moran did Griffin for pace in Tralee, however, the sod is a lot drier and I doubt he will be as exposed this time around. What about Lee Keegan!? Who will mark Keegan? Assume he will play in the half back line again and drive forward? Is it likely we see Paul Murphy in the half forward line again and picking him up? |
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Post by mayobill on Aug 14, 2017 16:28:59 GMT
Well lads,new to this site. Im lying by the pool here in Tenerife (free wifi) and its full of english, so iv no one to talk too about the semi, so as the man says iv ended up here 😀.
Think its going to be a titanic tussle. Personally feel it'll be the dirtiest game of the year so far, but the lads will shake hands after and that'll be that. Alot at home in Mayo are scared *less of Donnaghy, personally I think its Geaney and JOD who can do the real damage. My heart is saying Mayo, but the head is Kerry by 2-3 points. We just cant seem to beat ye in the last 21 yrs. I think Keegan will come in for Doherty, with Higgins being named at 13.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 14, 2017 17:02:02 GMT
An interesting game awaits to say the least - form to date goes out the window as far as I am concerned and the sight of the finish line should have both teams on their toes. The nagging doubt of surely Mayo must beat us some day keeps me nervous inspite of believing that Kerry are just that little bit better - the old cliche of who wants it most on the day keeps coming to mind. I expect a physical and nail biting encounter.
Lower Hogan and Cusack look to be sold out and tickets.ie only offering corner upper or Davin seats at this stage which suggests a big crowd for Sunday.
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Post by playitfair on Aug 14, 2017 17:11:34 GMT
Well lads,new to this site. Im lying by the pool here in Tenerife (free wifi) and its full of english, so iv no one to talk too about the semi, so as the man says iv ended up here 😀. Think its going to be a titanic tussle. Personally feel it'll be the dirtiest game of the year so far, but the lads will shake hands after and that'll be that. Alot at home in Mayo are scared *less of Donnaghy, personally I think its Geaney and JOD who can do the real damage. My heart is saying Mayo, but the head is Kerry by 2-3 points. We just cant seem to beat ye in the last 21 yrs. I think Keegan will come in for Doherty, with Higgins being named at 13. You would think the markup in the mayo full back line will be key. Maybe Keegan will play full back. I think Keith Higgins will be given a half back role maybe center back on Johnny Buckley. I also think mayo should start Jason Doherty. He's a good score getter in a battle. No doubt these ideas are mad but it will take something creative for mayo to win this one or at least give them an edge. |
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Post by mayobill on Aug 14, 2017 17:19:18 GMT
Playitfair, I would start Doherty all day long, most under-rated player on our team, wins dirty ball the whole time, and chips in a score or two from play. Just feel Rochford will keep him in reserve, id drop barrett for keegan...even though Barrett has done nothing wrong.
Re: matchups, I think Harrison will mark Geaney, Keegan on JOD and Vaughan on Donnaghy (if he starts) have a funny feeling Fitzmaurice won't start him. Keegan will bomb forward at every chance, as he has the engine to get back. Higgins will sweep and mop up as much as he can, aswell as going forward off the shoulder at pace. Midfield will be the big battle, think ye have the edge on us there. Who will ye put on Aidan??.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Aug 14, 2017 17:42:37 GMT
Playitfair, I would start Doherty all day long, most under-rated player on our team, wins dirty ball the whole time, and chips in a score or two from play. Just feel Rochford will keep him in reserve, id drop barrett for keegan...even though Barrett has done nothing wrong. Re: matchups, I think Harrison will mark Geaney, Keegan on JOD and Vaughan on Donnaghy (if he starts) have a funny feeling Fitzmaurice won't start him. Keegan will bomb forward at every chance, as he has the engine to get back. Higgins will sweep and mop up as much as he can, aswell as going forward off the shoulder at pace. Midfield will be the big battle, think ye have the edge on us there. Who will ye put on Aidan??. [ Donaghy will start for sure.. would imagine Peter Crowley will be assigned to pick up O Shea |
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Post by kerryexile on Aug 14, 2017 17:48:35 GMT
If it is a dirty game players must be careful. Some posts here last week said that card did not carry over to the final but that must be for black & yellow as it appears that players who got red cards yesterday are in trouble for the hurling final.
The consequences are the same for both teams (miss AIF) so it may not be too bad.
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Post by mayobill on Aug 14, 2017 18:07:10 GMT
Crowley would be the obvious choice for O'Shea alright, he's a hoor of a defender, a man you'd want on your team all day long.
Thats true about the non carry over of yellow an black cards, can't see any reds alright, but Deegan will need eyes on the back of his head...and tanned legs!.
I feel our only way to beat ye is obviously (somehow) nullify yer ff line, while running from deep and drawing fouls, hopefully chippin away all day. Aidan O'Shea will be needed to compete with Moran/Maher/Buckley in midfield, though id wish to see him in on yer fb and a blitzkrieg of high ball in on top. Darren o sullivan and KeNe is my biggest worry coming off the bench, they're pace cannot be taught and could do untold damage against tiring legs.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 14, 2017 18:47:09 GMT
The quality of the Mayo posting is coming on leaps and bounds 👍
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Post by kerryboy83 on Aug 14, 2017 18:57:26 GMT
John Evans on terrace talk stating keegan will b full back to mark Star!! If that happens, I will b shocked to the core.
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Post by keane on Aug 14, 2017 19:11:23 GMT
Seriously if Keegan ends up in the full back line Mayo have no chance.
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Post by playitfair on Aug 14, 2017 19:14:32 GMT
Seriously if Keegan ends up in the full back line Mayo have no chance. why not. It strengthens mayos weakest line. |
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Post by playitfair on Aug 14, 2017 19:15:40 GMT
John Evans on terrace talk stating keegan will b full back to mark Star!! If that happens, I will b shocked to the core. he must have read my post before going on 😳 |
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Post by playitfair on Aug 14, 2017 19:15:57 GMT
John Evans on terrace talk stating keegan will b full back to mark Star!! If that happens, I will b shocked to the core. he must have read my post before going on 😳 |
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Post by keane on Aug 14, 2017 19:22:09 GMT
Seriously if Keegan ends up in the full back line Mayo have no chance. why not. It strengthens mayos weakest line. At the expense of the only genuinely worrying attacking threat they have. Kerry can easily win without Donaghy having a career day. Mayo absolutely need Keegan at his rampaging best to win. |
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Post by mayobill on Aug 14, 2017 19:38:16 GMT
We put Keegan on Quinlivan last year, and it worked with Barry Moran sweeping. Personally don't think we'll put him on Donnaghy, as it takes away our attacking threat. Could see Keegan line up in midfield to mark Moran...I know theirs a massive height difference, but I doubt Moran would have the gas to follow him all day, which could leave us with Keegan raiding forward supporting McGloughlin or Diarmuid...... if they manage to win dirty ball.
Its an absolute game of chess at this stage tbh.
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Post by maigheo4 on Aug 14, 2017 19:54:11 GMT
I'd like to see Loftus introduced 15 minutes into the 2nd half. I think he'll be a real threat to the Kerry defence.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 14, 2017 21:05:31 GMT
Harrison is a pretty tall sticky type of player. He wouldn't be given much height away to KD if they tried him there
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Post by macdanger on Aug 14, 2017 21:56:52 GMT
What's too much influence? Demanding and getting more game time than Andy Moran in 2016 That's simply not true. Dillon came on as a sub in the Fermanagh match and scored 2 points. He started the Tyrone match between the 40 & MF and got on a sight of ball, MacMahon was on him and was subbed after 20 minutes (probably Rochford's major tactical coup in his two years so far). After that, he got a maybe 10 mins at the end of a couple of games. Andy started every game from the Kildare match (round 3) onwards. The story there is that according to Holmes & Connelly's interview, in 2015 Dillon was p*ssed off that he wasn't starting ahead of Moran and asked the mgmt why. He didn't end up as a starter and Moran remained a starter so it's hard to justify a charge that he had too much influence. I don't see a problem with any player being p*ssed off about not starting |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 21:58:31 GMT
I think it a lot more likely that keegam will be used to exploit the lack of pace around the Kerry half forward line and midfield.
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Post by macdanger on Aug 14, 2017 22:00:15 GMT
why not. It strengthens mayos weakest line. At the expense of the only genuinely worrying attacking threat they have. Kerry can easily win without Donaghy having a career day. Mayo absolutely need Keegan at his rampaging best to win. Would agree with you there, he'd be wasted and possibly ineffective at FB. I'd like to see him at MF trying to put Moran (him and Geaney are the biggest threats for Kerry imo) on the back foot. |
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