|
|
Post by MrRasherstoyou on Sept 3, 2017 11:52:58 GMT
Neither are they Tyrone 95. This final will hinge on Dublin not turning up a bit flat. If they manage to avoid that they should win, otherwise I expect Mayo to produce and win. This could be the highest scoring final for many years if the weather permits. I think both teams will go for it, Mayo need to get a lead and look better equipped than previously to try and defend it.
|
|
|
|
Post by Mickmack on Sept 3, 2017 12:31:27 GMT
I agree with you that it depends on how well Dublin performs. If they play to potential they will prevail. If it's tight and the ref gets it into his head that "Mayo deserve an all Ireland" then .....ye are screwed
|
|
|
|
Post by kerrygold on Sept 3, 2017 12:36:48 GMT
No reason to suspect that Dublin won't peak for this final, so should Mayo.
|
|
|
|
Post by Kingdomson on Sept 3, 2017 18:28:36 GMT
PAUL GALVIN
September 3 2017, 12:01am, The Sunday Times
Quiet contemplation can bring cohesion to Kerry, not crisis
Paul Galvin
County must emulate approach that has brought success for their underage teams.
There has been some bloodletting in Kerry this past week following our defeat to Mayo. We’d do well to put the knives back in the drawers now and take a deep breath. Bloodletting, roaring and shouting won’t get us back to the top table. Silence, solitude and some holistic thinking might.
It’s probably best to take that wider view of operations when you lose. At underage level in Kerry measures have been taken to bring some cohesion to the way under 14s, 16s and minors prepare and progress. Consistent success has come as a result. At senior level we’ve been inconsistent.
Since 2007 we have three All-Irelands and lost three finals, three semis and two quarter-finals. Despite those wins, the form line has been a bit erratic, certainly compared to Dublin and, to a different extent, Mayo. This is where Kerry must take their measure of consistency from at the moment, like it or not.
Some might argue there is consistency in the above record but it’s been too up and down. A drone’s view would be much more beneficial for the future than blaming individuals. Eamonn Fitzmaurice and county chairman Tim Murphy should be allowed to do this review.
I can’t help looking at it like a business. Where are the holes in the operation? How do we fill them? Do we need to create new positions in keeping with the marketplace and the competition? With the correct training structures, processes and people in place you can build consistency.
Dublin and Mayo have been the two most consistent teams of the last six years. Since 2011 Mayo’s remarkable consistency is unfortunately matched by their consistent inability to win an All-Ireland.
Dublin are a whole other matter. Jim Gavin seems to have mastered the art of zooming into the detail of preparing and running a team and zooming out for that holistic view, taking in the bigger picture: tomorrow, next week, next month, next year; a hole in the operation here, an appointment there. With that in mind, I felt last weekend that Diarmuid Connolly’s return wasn’t the 100% positive people were making it out to be. Dublin had done their business efficiently without him and won back public sentiment in doing so. It would be foolish for Gavin to ignore the importance of winning the public back over since the high summer outburst after Connolly’s Carlow incident. And as we already know he is nobody’s fool.
The reality is these incidents have ramifications for teams chasing multiple All-Irelands. Lose favour in the corridors of power at Croke Park, RTE or the wider media and you quickly lose favour in the stands. Human nature is such that negativity and becoming dislikeable spreads much more insidiously than positivity and being likeable. Before you know it you’re on the wrong end of a big call in a tight game.
At present Dublin have a bunch of poster-boys-next-door in their ranks and it’s doing them the world of good. Con O’Callaghan, Dean Rock, Paul Mannion, Ciaran Kilkenny, Paddy Andrews, Brian Fenton, Jack McCaffrey, and Cian O’Sullivan each have toughness in their own right, but they won’t outwardly rock the casbah as Connolly or a few more might.
It was hard to envisage him introducing Connolly in the 69th minute against Tyrone, but in doing so Gavin said a lot. It looks like he is not prepared to countenance a Diarmuid Connolly/Lee Keegan sideshow in the weeks leading up to the final. Connolly is already a non-starter for the final unless something drastic like injuries occur in the meantime. You have to admire Gavin’s resolve for that.
I also had to admire the way Dublin disabled Tyrone last Sunday by playing without a full-forward line when in transition. They dropped their inside line on to the 45 with Rock and Mannion playing high and wide and Andrews and O’Callaghan staying very deep. That left Colm Cavanagh like an island in front of goal with nothing to sweep only grass.
The problem with sweepers in football was never the role itself but the position of the opposing full-forward line in facilitating the sweeper system by playing in conventional positions. The way to kill the sweeper was always to remove or withdraw the full forward line when in transition and build-up, making a sweeper defunct.
Dublin have now copped this and it makes them even more dangerous. This small detail seems to have gone unnoticed, but that’s the super-zoom focus in key areas that makes Dublin what they are.
|
|
|
|
Post by colinsworth1 on Sept 3, 2017 23:29:35 GMT
As we sift through the embers of our 2017 campaign we have well and truly posted on where we went wrong
Can some of our posters now loook at the things that worked and were good in our campaign?
Like the energy and drive that Barry John Keane brought
His ambitious floater that would have been goal of the season if star had tracked it in.
Jonathan's lynes. Best game in a kerry jersey where he brought the ball up and delivered sound passes a hint of what he can if given more responsibility
Stars performance in the first. Semi which was off the charts good
Jack Barrys brilliant run which nearly ended in a goal showing that he has a great future as 8 9 10 or 11
Peter Crowley's heroics throughout
Lack of young blood has been widely discussed
But looking at the level of physicality I'm not sure if the young guns
Would have survived out there maybe a little older lads like
Brendan o Sullvan etc
Stay positive you k ow we will be back bigger and better
|
|
|
|
Post by kerrygold on Sept 4, 2017 8:15:36 GMT
A good piece from Paul, best to let things settle now and a let the conversations happen between the various parties.
|
|
|
|
Post by handyminor on Oct 11, 2017 15:38:23 GMT
I heard Cinneide was very critical of Fitzmaurice's stewardship in Limerick last night at public event. He's never afraid to call it as it is.
|
|
|
|
Post by kerrygold on Oct 11, 2017 16:20:39 GMT
I heard Cinneide was very critical of Fitzmaurice's stewardship in Limerick last night at public event. He's never afraid to call it as it is. What did he say? |
|
|
|
Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 11, 2017 16:33:19 GMT
I heard Cinneide was very critical of Fitzmaurice's stewardship in Limerick last night at public event. He's never afraid to call it as it is. Practically a home function for a Kerryman- no wonder he felt comfortable speaking his mind |
|
