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Post by kerrygold on Aug 14, 2017 22:13:41 GMT
No way will Mayo play Keegan at fullback on Donaghy.
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 15, 2017 8:17:20 GMT
There was an interesting discussion on Donie Buckley last night on Terrace Talk and his influence in the Mayo setup. A few of our own defenders would benefit hugely from Donie’s instructions on tackling without fouling or rip and strip as the boys described it. Giving away too many cheap frees with the likes of Cillian O’Connor around could cost you a game.
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 15, 2017 8:27:52 GMT
No way will Mayo play Keegan at fullback on Donaghy. I wouldn't be surprised if Keegan spent some time there - what do positions mean any more? There is absolutely no doubt but Donaghy will be targetted on Sunday by fair and foul means. If you want to upset a player fast and cause trouble - Lee's your man! On that note, I know Kieran is hugely competitive and his nature is hardly going to change now but he must remain cool under the extreme provocation he will face. This game is do or die for this Mayo side, a win at all costs really and it's going to be a ferocious battle. |
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Aug 15, 2017 9:34:59 GMT
Some great discussion in this thread, well done to all. I'd be stunned if Keegan is on Donaghy, complete waste of his pace,and attacking threat. I also think Donaghy has to start.
If Mayo get the defensive system right, they have a good chance if they can score enough in their more dominant periods.
Durcan is a big potential, Loftus, if plays, is dangerous. These take some of the heat off the usual suspects. I think Keegan if he's on anyone in particular is going to be on PGeaney. If they can limit him they can win, again assuming they get the overall defensive system right.
Most important for Kerry is to not let Mayo get a significant lead in the 2nd half because unlike 2014 or 15 they should be able to close it down quite well. Yet if Kerry have that lead they need it to be at least 7-9 points because Mayo chase very well and Kerry don't seem to lock it so well since 2014.
Mayo now have 5 forwards who score consistently/chip in enough, maybe 6 depending what subs, and Keegan. Kerry seem to need two forwards to score heavily,and Moran to contribute a bit.
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Post by paddymac1111 on Aug 15, 2017 9:46:12 GMT
I would totally agree with you. Kerry have 2 super forwards but may be over reliant on them along with KD to feed off. Mayos 6 forwards while not on the same level as either JOD OR MG work well together. Mayos biggest threat isn't them but their half back line of Keegan,Boyle and Durcan. They create the overlaps so the lads inside can thrive. If Kerry can stop them 3 running they will win its as simple as that. If kerry can stop them then they will have a great chance because then mayo will have to kick direct ball in and the likes of Cillian OC and AndyM are not fast enough to get out infront of their men when it's tight. Mayo will look to run it every time from half back and looking at the kerry half forward line of Geaney, DWalsh and JBuckley they will not have the legs for mayos half back line. I doubt Kerry will be playing them 3 on the half forward line. Is there any truth that a minor from last year could start on the 40 for Kerry Sunday? Don't know his name but a Kerry man told me the lad was told not to play at the weekend?  |
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Post by buck02 on Aug 15, 2017 9:54:44 GMT
I would doubt that Keegan will pick up any one of Geaney, Donaghy or Donoghue.
Keegan has marked Connolly as Connolly generally plays a roaming role, often linking play from the half back line and trying to support ball put into the FF line.
Geaney, Donoghue and Donaghy will play close to the goal, with the exception of Donaghy who will occasionally come to the middle of the field when needs must. Remember when Roscommon played Enda Smith close to goal when Keegan was man marking him and Keegan went out of the game.
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 15, 2017 9:56:02 GMT
I would totally agree with you. Kerry have 2 super forwards but may be over reliant on them along with KD to feed off. Mayos 6 forwards while not on the same level as either JOD OR MG work well together. Mayos biggest threat isn't them but their half back line of Keegan,Boyle and Durcan. They create the overlaps so the lads inside can thrive. If Kerry can stop them 3 running they will win its as simple as that. If kerry can stop them then they will have a great chance because then mayo will have to kick direct ball in and the likes of Cillian OC and AndyM are not fast enough to get out infront of their men when it's tight. Mayo will look to run it every time from half back and looking at the kerry half forward line of Geaney, DWalsh and JBuckley they will not have the legs for mayos half back line. I doubt Kerry will be playing them 3 on the half forward line. Is there any truth that a minor from last year could start on the 40 for Kerry Sunday? Don't know his name but a Kerry man told me the lad was told not to play at the weekend? None of the Kerry panel (extended at that) played at the weekend - most of the Kerry panel have not played a league game (10 of 11 rounds played) with their club all year. The lad you are referring to is getting rave reviews from training camp and has been on the bench for the last two games without getting a run - was pulled from his clubs U21 county final before the QF but still left on the bench for that game. His time will come but would be a big surprise if its this year with the competition reaching its final stages. |
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Post by dbrown on Aug 15, 2017 10:14:26 GMT
Maurice Deegan reff for Sunday
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Post by beantownfan on Aug 15, 2017 10:19:10 GMT
I would totally agree with you. Kerry have 2 super forwards but may be over reliant on them along with KD to feed off. Mayos 6 forwards while not on the same level as either JOD OR MG work well together. Mayos biggest threat isn't them but their half back line of Keegan,Boyle and Durcan. They create the overlaps so the lads inside can thrive. If Kerry can stop them 3 running they will win its as simple as that. If kerry can stop them then they will have a great chance because then mayo will have to kick direct ball in and the likes of Cillian OC and AndyM are not fast enough to get out infront of their men when it's tight. Mayo will look to run it every time from half back and looking at the kerry half forward line of Geaney, DWalsh and JBuckley they will not have the legs for mayos half back line. I doubt Kerry will be playing them 3 on the half forward line. Is there any truth that a minor from last year could start on the 40 for Kerry Sunday? Don't know his name but a Kerry man told me the lad was told not to play at the weekend? None of the Kerry panel (extended at that) played at the weekend - most of the Kerry panel have not played a league game (10 of 11 rounds played) with their club all year. The lad you are referring to is getting rave reviews from training camp and has been on the bench for the last two games without getting a run - was pulled from his clubs U21 county final before the QF but still left on the bench for that game. His time will come but would be a big surprise if its this year with the competition reaching its final stages. And Sean O'Shea is his name.. He was the minor captain, but it would be a huge surprise if he got game time given how conservative Eamonn is in general. He didn't get any league time due to the involvement with the u21s and then the week of the Galway game his district team were involved in the U21 final. Players are normally 'released' for championship but in this case he was held back, causing rumours that he'd start/come on against Galway, neither of which transpired. But as previously mentioned word has it he is doing well at training, but its just hard to see Eamonn taking such a risk in such an important game. |
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Post by kerryboy83 on Aug 15, 2017 11:42:00 GMT
Pick the team so guys
Kelly
Young
Griffin
Enright
Murphy
Morley
Crowley
Moran
Barry
M Geaney
Buckley
Walshe
JOD
Donaghy
P Geaney
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 15, 2017 12:06:19 GMT
I saw reported on the independent that David Brady thinks Aidan O'Shea should be deployed on Donaghy.
"I believe that Aidan O'Shea is the player to keep Donaghy quiet. For Mayo, this move would be fighting fire with fire as well as throwing all of Eamonn Fitzmaurice's planned objectives for curbing O'Shea out the window. O'Shea would not let Donaghy win clean ball.
"Just imagine the atmosphere in the stadium if these two giants lined up side by side. More importantly, once Donaghy was getting no joy inside, he would move out the field, which would suit O'Shea."
Jesus has the man watched Donaghy at all? Aidan O'Shea has never played full back. Its not just jumping for the ball. Its all subtle movements etc. Kerry would be delighted if Aidan O'Shea hung around his own full back line for the game. Keeps him out of midfield.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 15, 2017 12:12:34 GMT
Better still, play O'Shea on him with Keegan sweeping in front of them both.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Aug 15, 2017 12:27:43 GMT
If the Mayo back room team are as obsessed about Donaghy as the rest of the Mayo County, then its advantage Kerry. Yes Donaghy needs to be watched but Kerry have a lot more threats than Donaghy.
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Post by peanuts on Aug 15, 2017 12:29:11 GMT
Pick the team so guys Kelly Young Griffin Enright Murphy Morley Crowley Moran Barry M Geaney Buckley Walshe JOD Donaghy P Geaney I think you're spot on and that's the team Eamonn will pick. |
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 15, 2017 12:51:25 GMT
Pick the team so guys Kelly Young Griffin Enright Murphy Morley Crowley Moran Barry M Geaney Buckley Walshe JOD Donaghy P Geaney Probably will be the team Is the half forward line too slow in all reality? Espeically when Mayo break at at speed. Or will we play a man back? |
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Post by kerryexile on Aug 15, 2017 12:53:29 GMT
I saw reported on the independent that David Brady thinks Aidan O'Shea should be deployed on Donaghy. " I believe that Aidan O'Shea is the player to keep Donaghy quiet. For Mayo, this move would be fighting fire with fire as well as throwing all of Eamonn Fitzmaurice's planned objectives for curbing O'Shea out the window. O'Shea would not let Donaghy win clean ball.
"Just imagine the atmosphere in the stadium if these two giants lined up side by side. More importantly, once Donaghy was getting no joy inside, he would move out the field, which would suit O'Shea." Jesus has the man watched Donaghy at all? Aidan O'Shea has never played full back. Its not just jumping for the ball. Its all subtle movements etc. Kerry would be delighted if Aidan O'Shea hung around his own full back line for the game. Keeps him out of midfield. Totally agree with you. Brady has comment a few times before and while he didn't say too much wrong he didn't say anything very illuminating either so it wasn't very clear where he fit in as a pundit. Now we know. |
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Post by mayo4sam on Aug 15, 2017 13:00:57 GMT
Mayo are gonna play everyone in front of donaghy.  Kerry have plenty of ex players with newspaper columns who need to fill space aswell. |
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Post by skybluezone on Aug 15, 2017 13:05:53 GMT
Pick the team so guys Kelly Young Griffin Enright Murphy Morley Crowley Moran Barry M Geaney Buckley Walshe JOD Donaghy P Geaney I think you're spot on and that's the team Eamonn will pick. Very strong team. I would slot O'Brien in for Walsh. |
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Post by mayobill on Aug 15, 2017 13:09:38 GMT
Brady was a great servant to us in the past, but the media game does'nt suit him. Always likes to come out with left field comments to get a bit of a reaction. Theirs no way oshea will be on donaghy, if he is'nt in on top of yer fb, he'll be giving a dig out around the middle.
Rochford and co are cutier than their given credit for. Unlike the rest of the county, they wont be obsessing over donaghy, twill be more geaney and jod....their the real danger. Donnacha Walsh (with all due respect) is a player I hate to see lining out for ye, hes a cute nasty player, the type of player needed to win an AI, hate the sight of him in a sporting sense. Will never forget his riverdance impression to get keegan sent off in '14.
Theirs a real sense of unpredictability about this game, anyone know what the weather is ment to be like?
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Post by taggert on Aug 15, 2017 13:10:03 GMT
I suspect that if David Brady had a second brain, he'd be twice as stupid....
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 15, 2017 13:18:47 GMT
I'm not sure if any of you have listened to the Independent.ie 'Throw in@ podcast but Brady is on that and he is beyond dense. No ability to analyse the game nor does he seem to actually have knowledge of games he has analysed.
Talked about Kerry's strong bench after Galway game and the players he referenced were- O Brien(thats ok), Sheehan (didnt play and is well down pecking order) and Darren (same as Sheehan).
Also has come out with a catalogue of other idiotic comments throughout- so much so that I've gave up listening to it.
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Post by buck02 on Aug 15, 2017 13:19:51 GMT
I suspect that if David Brady had a second brain, he'd be twice as stupid.... I actually dont think he is as thick as he lets on. He lets on to be a guy who opens his mouth before he thinks. Maybe he is a guy who thinks before he opens his mouth but makes it seem like he didnt. Thats his GAA media niche. |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 15, 2017 13:20:33 GMT
Play Pat Holmes on Donaghy- he's due a good game against Kerry.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 15, 2017 13:21:37 GMT
I suspect that if David Brady had a second brain, he'd be twice as stupid.... I actually dont think he is as thick as he lets on. He lets on to be a guy who opens his mouth before he thinks. Maybe he is a guy who thinks before he opens his mouth but makes it seem like he didnt. Thats his GAA media niche. It's quite hard to be as thick as he lets on while still maintaining the cognitive function to keep on breathing so maybe you are correct. He's still quite thick though |
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 15, 2017 13:45:07 GMT
Play Pat Holmes on Donaghy- he's due a good game against Kerry. Pat Holmes was hung out to dry by terrible management that day. Leaving him on Maurice was unforgivable. Especially when Mortimer was having a super year. Added to that they stuck a 35 year old Dermot Flanangan on our fastest player (along with Pa Laide) Billy O'Shea. And when Flanagan got injured they rejigged the whole team for one sub. They bought Horan into the forwards (Should never have been dropped anyway) and dropped heaney back and rearranged their midfield as well. |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 15, 2017 13:48:49 GMT
Play Pat Holmes on Donaghy- he's due a good game against Kerry. Pat Holmes was hung out to dry by terrible management that day. Leaving him on Maurice was unforgivable. Especially when Mortimer was having a super year. Added to that they stuck a 35 year old Dermot Flanangan on our fastest player (along with Pa Laide) Billy O'Shea. And when Flanagan got injured they rejigged the whole team for one sub. They bought Horan into the forwards (Should never have been dropped anyway) and dropped heaney back and rearranged their midfield as well. |
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 15, 2017 13:50:05 GMT
Pat Holmes was hung out to dry by terrible management that day. Leaving him on Maurice was unforgivable. Especially when Mortimer was having a super year. Added to that they stuck a 35 year old Dermot Flanangan on our fastest player (along with Pa Laide) Billy O'Shea. And when Flanagan got injured they rejigged the whole team for one sub. They bought Horan into the forwards (Should never have been dropped anyway) and dropped heaney back and rearranged their midfield as well. I know it was a joke. Was just commenting on the manament shambles that day. Hopefully mayo do a repeat on Sunday!!! |
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Post by kot on Aug 15, 2017 14:20:50 GMT
I actually dont think he is as thick as he lets on. He lets on to be a guy who opens his mouth before he thinks. Maybe he is a guy who thinks before he opens his mouth but makes it seem like he didnt. Thats his GAA media niche. It's quite hard to be as thick as he lets on while still maintaining the cognitive function to keep on breathing so maybe you are correct. He's still quite thick though As the man says....... |
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Post by paddymac1111 on Aug 15, 2017 14:39:01 GMT
The fact of the matter is donaghy has being the 1 Kerry player who has done the most damage vs mayo over the last number of encounters. The fact that our fb situation is the weakest of all our positions has to be the biggest concern for mayo.
However whoever marks him mayo will play a sweeper in and around him anyway.
Mayo should have looked to putting aidan o shea at ff. If correct ball went into him Kerry might be forrced to play with a sweeper on him. He could if managed properly become more of a threat the KD at ff IMO but mayo will be more focused on stopping Kerry that on creating Kerry massive problems in their defence
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Post by playitfair on Aug 15, 2017 14:52:27 GMT
I think you're spot on and that's the team Eamonn will pick. Very strong team. I would slot O'Brien in for Walsh. I wish them the very best if that is the half forward line. It would not be the line out I would hope for. We need loads of pace in the half forward line to go all the way. |
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