All-Star Nominations named...

[animal]

Fair enough. It's funny how some positions pick themselves while there'll be awful tight calls elsewhere.

[butchy]

Ya, the full forward line pretty much picks itself (Gooch, Donaghy, Freeman) with Declan and Marc the only other two certain of all stars. Young deserves one as well but as already pointed out might get young player of the year instead. Personally i think he deserves both !!

[63587614]

Brendan Murphy (Meath)

Marc O Se (Kerry)
Graham Canty (Cork)
Dessie Mone (Monaghan)


Shane Ryan
Aidan O Mahony (Kerry)
Killian Young (Kerry)


Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone)
Darragh O Se (Kerry)

Declan O Sullivan (Kerry)
Alan Brogan (Dublin)
Stephen Bray (Meath)

Colm Cooper (Kerry)
Kieran Donaghy (Kerry)
Thomas Freeman (Monaghan)

[63587614]

Shane Ryan deserves his claim to fame. Also I hope Monaghan get there nominations in along with Bray from Meath.

[animal]

butchy said:

Ya, the full forward line pretty much picks itself (Gooch, Donaghy, Freeman) with Declan and Marc the only other two certain of all stars. Young deserves one as well but as already pointed out might get young player of the year instead. Personally i think he deserves both !!

Donaghy is not a cert for an all star. Bradley of Derry and Donnacha O'Connor will come damn close. Both had excellent seasons while Star was patchy.

[buck02]

Am I right in saying that Donaghy scored 2-2 in the whole championship, 2 goals in the final and 2 points in the Munster Final? I think he'd be lucky to get an all star ahead of Donnacha O Connor or Freeman, but given his media image (a la Whelan) it could get him over the line. Pity they didnt nominate him in the half forward line (well he did spend time around there v Dublin!), like Peter the Great they could have stuck him on the 40!!

[dstar10]

animal said:

butchy said:

Ya, the full forward line pretty much picks itself (Gooch, Donaghy, Freeman) with Declan and Marc the only other two certain of all stars. Young deserves one as well but as already pointed out might get young player of the year instead. Personally i think he deserves both !!

Donaghy is not a cert for an all star. Bradley of Derry and Donnacha O'Connor will come damn close. Both had excellent seasons while Star was patchy.

donaghy played well in our 2 most important matches, d dubs and cork and against monaghan he was not allowed a goal which was disgraceful and unlucky not to get another

[butchy]

Donaghy had a very good season. The problems lies in the fact that his early season form was compared to his last year. He had 2 excellent games against Cork and was also excellent against Dublin. The monaghan game he was double teamed for alot of the game and also the ball going in wasn't the best. I don't agree that his form was patchy. I would say that he improved steadily throughout the Championship and had superb game in the final. A cert for an all star in my opinion. Animal if your saying donaghy's form was patchy then the same can be said of both Bradley and O'Connor.

[animal]

Never said Donaghy didn't play well in those games. Was excellent against Dublin. Very good in final and good in Munster final. Games against Waterford and Monaghan were not his best. But other lads had better years. Donnacha O' Connor and Freeman for me had fine seasons.

[dstar10]

animal said:

Never said Donaghy didn't play well in those games. Was excellent against Dublin. Very good in final and good in Munster final. Games against Waterford and Monaghan were not his best. But other lads had better years. Donnacha O' Connor and Freeman for me had fine seasons.

donnacha played well against meath and that was it ifeel he played better last year

[peig]

butchy said:

Ya, the full forward line pretty much picks itself (Gooch, Donaghy, Freeman) with Declan and Marc the only other two certain of all stars. Young deserves one as well [glow=red,2,300]but as already pointed out might get young player of the year instead. Personally i think he deserves both !![/[/glow]quote]

I don't see the problem in him winning both awards. Surely if he wins Young Player of the Year (or should that be 'Young - Player of the Year' ;D) and doesn't win an All-Star, it's a contradiction of sorts??

[kerrygold]

you'll find politics will see young will get young player of the year and lose out on the all-star,in'02 the gooch got the all star and ronan clarke got young player of the year but no allstar.It just mean more awards to go around.Killan young was outstanding this year and fully deserves both awards.

i thought kieran donaghy played his best game ever for kerry v dublin in the semi final,he won the munster final with his last great point and had a very good game.In the final his first goal killed the game and his second rapped it up.He also won an amount of ball in the final and caused panic in the cork defence every time he got the ball,so much so that cork couldnt decide conclusively what to do with canty.Kieran gives colm the licence to torment inside by his presence alone on the edge of square.I've seen players get all-stars for less,eg canavan '05 by being placed on the forty at mcguigans exspense.All the talk is about kerrys soft goals in the final,but what about the brillant play from colm and kieran to make them and finish them by their positional sense.Kieran was the outstanding full forward in the business end of the championship and deserves an allstar,he was every bit as effective as last year.

In kierans case if he doesnt get one is it a case of kieran being yesterdays news,ie the new toy the jurnos got tired off.Last year with media hype the jurnos gave kieran player of the year at darraghs exspence who was the outstanding player in the country last year.At the business end kieran was every bit as effective this year as last year.

darragh totally exclisped murphy in the final,murphy was in line for player of the year going into the final,many thought murphy would out play darragh and lead cork to the promised land,it happened the other way around,neither whelan nor murphy shone while darragh was on the field in this years championship,to pick both ahead of him would be laughable,but then again the allstars have become laughable and its hard to have too much respect for them in modern times.

marc,tomas,young,darragh,colm and kieran were outstanding for kerry this year and all deserve allstars,aidan o mahoney was outstanding in the final and solid in the semi,as i've said players have got allstars for far less in the past.

[Jo90]

Young player of the year and an All-Star aren't mutually exclusive.
There's been a few occurrences where a player won both.
In hurling 'Cha Fitz in '06, Setanta in '03, Eoin Kelly '01, Dirmuid O'Sullivan '99.
In football Clifford in '99, Donnellan in 98.

Also in hurling Eoin Kelly won Young player of the year two years in a row thus disproving the theory that it has to be your first c'ship year.

[JOAN]

ya buts it rare and I dont think Killian will get both. Young player award is huge getting that just high lights himself and its not shared with 14 others. Either way wont do him any harm

[austinstacksabu]

He won the Young Player award twice before they changed the rules Jo.....back then it was an age thing. Now there is a limitor on the number of championship games you can have played.

[madmac999]

Brendan Murphy (Meath)


Marc O’Se (Kerry)

Darren Fay (Meath)

Conor Gormley (Tyrone)


Aidan O’Mahony Kerry)

Killian Young (Kerry)

Caoimhin King (Meath)


Ciaran Whelan (Dublin) / Nicholas Murphy (Cork)

Darragh O’Se (Kerry)


Declan O’Sullivan (Kerry)

Bernard Brogan (Dublin)

Stephen Bray (Meath)


Colm Cooper (Kerry)

Kieran Donaghy (Kerry)

Donncha O’Connor (Cork)

[kerryeye]

Brendan Murphy (Meath

Marc o Se
Darren Fay (Meath
Graham Canty (Cork)

Tomas O’Se (Kerry)
Aidan O’Mahony Kerry)
Killian Young (Kerry

Darragh O Se
Nicholas Murphy

Declan O’Sullivan (Kerry
Alan Brogan
Stephen Bray (Meath)

Colm Cooper (Kerry)
Kieran Donaghy (Kerry)
Thomas Freeman (Monaghan)

One notable absentee from the nominations list is Vincent corey from monagan,felt he was a cert for a nomination.

[kerry07]

I Think no Tom O Sullivan is a joke only after last year its no longer funny . Tom if you are

reading this there is only one answer next year 3 in a row and 5 celtic crosses!!

I like Graham Canty and he would get a run on any team but really getting cleaned off like

that in a final is career stopping stuff for most if not for G Canty.Lokk at it this way if Tom had

aperformance like that what would be the outcome ?

How could Nicholas Murphy be considered ahead of Seamus Scanlon.

As for Cluxton well enough said Quirke should have got a nomination too !!!!

ITS A GOOD JOB THAT CELTIC CROSSES ARE THE ONLY CURRENCY IN FOOTBALL

[austinstacksabu]

Everybody seems to have a pop at the All Stars selection each year.

So, a question, how would you select the All Stars?

[kerrygold]

when the players picked the allstars a number of years back they got a number of selections just as wrong.

i'm surprised at you stacks to ask such a question,the all stars are the jurno's little baby,they came up with the concept and they claim ownership,they'ed be highly offended if their idea was snatched from them again.

i wonder how would the allstars work if the public picked them,proberly no better than the players doing so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

for what its worth Tommy Lyons picked 8 kery players on his team.

D.murphy,marc,tomas,aidan,darragh,declan,colm and kieran

[Deleted]

The issue is really how political the process is.

Its all about which counties deserve one rather than who the best 15 in the country on a given year are.

There is clearly a quota system in place.

[kerrygold]

exactly,take a look at the bank of ireland team of the last 15 years also,spread it around dont mind the best 15 players.

[Jo90]

Nicholas Murphy was Cork's most consistent player from the qualifiers on i.e. when the c'ship started in earnest.
He played poorly in the final but a lot of that was to do with Kerry's tactics - every Kerry kickout was kicked to the opposite wing to him and for Cork kickouts there was a circle of 6 Kerry players around him making it virtually impossible to win any kickouts cleanly.
Based on what he did in the Meath, Sligo and Louth games I think he deserves an All-Star. A lot of people here are writing off players' All-Stars based on the final, but if the All-Stars were based on the final Kerry would win all 15.

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jo90 said:

Nicholas Murphy was Cork's most consistent player from the qualifiers on i.e. when the c'ship started in earnest.
He played poorly in the final but a lot of that was to do with Kerry's tactics - every Kerry kickout was kicked to the opposite wing to him and for Cork kickouts there was a circle of 6 Kerry players around him making it virtually impossible to win any kickouts cleanly.
Based on what he did in the Meath, Sligo and Louth games I think he deserves an All-Star. A lot of people here are writing off players' All-Stars based on the final, but if the All-Stars were based on the final Kerry would win all 15.

No doubt some Kerry fans would still not be happy

Having said that your argument on Nicholas Murphy is a good one though I am sure the one eyed posters on this forum won't get it.

[kerrygold]

you could also argue jo90 that none of tipp,limerick,louth,sligo and meath will operate in div 1 of the national league also,the teams nick murphy shone against.

[falveyb2k]

Jo90 there were plenty of kickouts aimed at himself and Darragh yet Darragh won EVERY single ball

[JOAN]

Lads we would never be happy with the amount of all stars we get no matter what.

[Owenabue]

Kerrygold, Nicholas Murphy could only play what was in front of him. Name another player you felt played well against Kerry.... the fact of the matter is there are very few.

[kerrygold]

i'm just questioning the practice of players getting allstars who dont perform on the biggest days when championships are won.Leading players lead their teams to championships in the cut and thrust of championship football.

[Owenabue]

If that is the case, then their would be a good argument for Kerry getting 15...