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Post by watchdehop on Jul 22, 2007 19:17:27 GMT
Will Kerry bother going up for the quarter final at all? Ahem......... 1955 1975 1984..........We have seen it all before!!
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 22:46:07 GMT
Rashers, please oh please, if you ever want me to reply to any of your post, do not call Paul Caffery 'Pillar'. But if I must answer this last one, Billy's record answers that one. To answer you, I don't know enough about Dublin to make proper comparisons. The reason is simple, I don't watch that many games on tv because I've trouble enough getting away to games. Last year I would have picked Murphy over Whelan. Cluxton I think is highly overrated, very few are as good as Canty, but I will have to see him playing a bit more to see if he's back to himself after the injury. Spillane is a very good centre back, so I would have picked him anyway. Masters, on a good day is like Corkery of old putting points over that you would think impossible. Are the Dublin forwards like that?! As you see, I do wear rose tinted classes when it come to Cork. Is that a threat or a promise?
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 22:50:15 GMT
Dermot Connolly was superb for the U21 hurlers last night. Appartenly, Pillar demanded that he concentrate on football and Connolly refused....... hense his exclusion against Loais. It will be interesting to see if he makes the panel for the quarter final match. There is another gem coming up ........ a lad called Brady from Na Fianna. Again, he was brillant for the under 21 hurlers and Pillar tried everything to get him to join the senior football squad but he refused as he wanted to win the U21 title. By all accounts another serious prospect at both codes. The future is blue lads Connolly won alot of ball, uses it well, but hit alot of bad wides. He needs to get his head right, he's arrogant & a bit petulant, but I feel he will be a great dual star & I'm delighted he kept up the hurling. Great work with the repetetive propoganda Mick - you must believe in the philosophy of the Communists - tell people something enough times and they will believe it, however untrue it might be. Never mind the future, the future is what the Indians call "the dreaming", the present is all that matters
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 22:56:23 GMT
Has he any problem with all those dodgy decisions that went Dublins way in front of the Hill so far this year. At least three dubious goals not to mention the disallowing of Geraghtys. Geraghty never scored a goal, so it wasnt disallowed, it was a bread & butter free decisively given by the ref before Geraghty even had the ball. Yis must have little enough to do in Kerry & Cork seeing as all yis can do is complain about Dublin. Yis must have little enough interest in yer own teams. Ah well, criticism is a form of flattery,and jealousy can only motivate yis so far..........
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 23:00:09 GMT
Rashers... I am surprised at this attitude to be honest. We all know that Vaughan was being taunted as was Donaghy. Its about having a bit of class..... Vaughan is at a crossroads. He can win everyone back by apologising or he can come across as a little scut. The choice is his and the Dublin Management should have enough savvy to see that too. As Jack says in his book....small things makes all the difference...... the difference between winning and losing is inches. Madser did nothing wrong, he made a funny Simpsons "rock-on" type gesture to Rooney, good for him. Not his fault that you dont understand the modern culture Mick. Screaming abuse Vs Bart Simpson wind-up - I know which one I think merits an apology, and it's not from Madser. Ask your kids - they, unlike you, dont secretly love it
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 23:01:14 GMT
“A large part of that is that the media is based in Dublin so it is going to naturally be like that. I also think that there are a lot of country folk living and working in Dublin, and they are probably going back to where they came from and saying, ah, Dublin this and that’. ;D Christ Cluxton... we all don't live and work in Dublin and even those that do heard of the telephone, tv and the internet. Oh and there always is the Examiner for us simple country folk... Good interview by Steo - spot on ;D
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 23:06:12 GMT
From Hoganstand.com Cluxton irritated by media frenzy 20 July 2007 Dublin’s All-Star goalkeeper Stephen Cluxton has admitted that the constant nitpicking of the media which erupts after each of their games is causing a bit of a stir in the Dublin camp. Dublin have been the focal point of media attention following their recent triumphant antics but Cluxton feels that it is only because it is Dublin that such actions are getting so much airing and believes that if it was another county it wouldn’t merit a story. “I suppose you do have to switch off at times because we aren’t the only team that has certain things or does certain things in games – but we’re probably the only team that gets picked out. “It is very frustrating for a team to be singled out all the time for doing anything – whether it is walking up to the ’Hill or clapping the management or whether it is standing in front of the ’Hill for the National anthem. “A large part of that is that the media is based in Dublin so it is going to naturally be like that. I also think that there are a lot of country folk living and working in Dublin, and they are probably going back to where they came from and saying, ah, Dublin this and that’. “It’s just frustrating to play for Dublin and see every little thing made into something big so I’m sure it’s the same for them. You always see Dublin in the papers,” Cluxton said Gob*e of the highest calibre and sorry admin or control or the lads if you find the language over the top, but that is the ultimate in gob*ery by any player. That's as bad as I've heard in ages. Put it this way, Dublin have just annoyed the rest of Ireland and Cluxton has given a face to the Dublin muppetry that culchies play bogball etc..... God hilp him in the quarter final, he's going to get some rare abuse from every support west of the Liffey for saying that. For saying what? He is spot on in what he says, and your rant has just proven exactly that. Bring it on, he'll be well able for that kind of jealousy & begrudgery - years of experience ;D
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 23:08:41 GMT
Stacks, can we count on your support, if we get that far and get Dublin?! You have to ask? I suppose that's what Munster people call "set-dancing", or sticking to the agreed steps Come on Meath! They will sort yis out
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 23:10:33 GMT
the pressure of being one of the favourites, if not THE favourite, to win SAM must be increasing............. Mick, this thread is about the Dubs, not Kerry, and we all know yis are the favourites, so why are you saying it again? - no need to rub it in with that Kerry smugness
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 23:13:55 GMT
looks like their cracking up to me with pressure,i cant wait to go down to the bowels of south kerry next weekend and carry stories with me to the gobseens below who dont know whats happening on the otherside of their mountain. imagine the pressure the dubs will be under if it a kerry dublin semi final,cant wait,abooy clucko. Bring it on, we are loving it. Just nice to be involved, and to engender such hype from the great Kerry fans
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 23:15:26 GMT
looks like their cracking up to me with pressure,i cant wait to go down to the bowels of south kerry next weekend and carry stories with me to the gobseens below who dont know whats happening on the otherside of their mountain. imagine the pressure the dubs will be under if it a kerry dublin semi final,cant wait,abooy clucko. PS I thought the whole of Kerry was full of gobseens in the bowels of beyond who dont know what's happening over the other side of the mountains - is there some other bit?
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 23:20:21 GMT
from the Dubs GAA site Three goals in Leinster Final ’07 saw the Dubs atop the provincial heap for the third year running having given a muscular and emotional display at Headquarters. There have been rakes, oodles and trollyloads of talk about this solar year being the year where Dublin had to really push on and switch their attentions Samwards. But for my money, provincial dominance is of utmost importance. It lays a strong foundation, builds a winning mentality and doesn’t force you out onto the highways and byways of rural Ireland! Take a look around the other provinces; Cork were one kick away from beating Kerry to the Munster crown, Galway were left sore-arsed by Sligo and ó Thuaidh, Big Joe’s orange parade didn’t even see the 12th of July! Good housekeeping means winning your province. To capture three in a row and emulate the last truly great Dublin team is something very special indeed. The game itself did not follow the pattern of manys’ a Leinster tussle in recent times. Dublin did not hit the ground running. On the contrary, Laois hit the Dubs early and before you knew it Dublin were four points down. Great credit must go to the players, who did not lose their heads or get too anxious. The coolest cucumber of the bunch was a certain Mark aka “Vince” aka “Madser” Vaughan. The boy had ice in his veins as he took some tricky kicks for Dublin that, had they gone wrong, would have potentially allowed doubt to seep in. Credit must also go to the Dublin sideline. They have been accused of not acting quickly enough on many previous occasions, but on Sunday they reacted perfectly. Moving Bryan Cullen further up the field really influenced the melody of the attack. It also left Barry Cahill to do a smashing amount of work in the halfbacks. Indeed it was Cullen who found himself upended inside the Laois box, but having the quickness of mind and body, he offloaded a super ball to Vaughan who bulged the Laois net with his weaker left foot. Even this early on, you sensed that a heavy pendulum was beginning to swing in Dublin’s favour. The attacks were increasing in volume and potency. No sooner had Fergal Byron picked the ball out of his own net for the first time in 7 championship games, when he was forced to repeat the dose. Enter Bernard Brogan. Like Dublin buses the two Dublin goals came at once. Baring down on goal, Brogan was more akin to a freight-train, his pace searing hot, running through the Laois defence. His subtle finish belied the monstrous power of the move as he clipped the ball beautifully past the despairing ‘keeper. Minds cast back to the revival of 2002 where Cosgrove the Unknown became Cossie the Heroic. That year two equally quick goals turned the final for Dublin and brought honours to the capital following a drought of 7 years. Prior to the game I wrote that should Dublin aim to match fire with fire, they would have to be sure to incinerate the Laois team, leaving no Freddy Kreuger-style resurrections possible. They certainly did that. Perhaps it was too frequently mismatched, but Dublin’s physical power was very much in evidence on the field. Strong in the tackle, and crucially, stronger in possession. There are much bigger teams out there than Laois, certainly. But there won’t be many boys bigger than Dublin in the playground this term you feel. Once Alan Brogan had scored a goal that was due to him on the basis of his hard graft, the game as a contest was over. Dublin were happy to engage in a sparring session of backs and forwards for 25 minutes or so, as Laois all but abandoned hope of being rescued by anything other than green flags. Although you never felt that Dublin would throw it away, Stephen Cluxton will not be happy with the way in which many Laois attacks breached the central columns of the Dublin rearguard. There will certainly be enough work to keep Pillar and the backroom staff busy between here and August. As the dust settled on another understated triumph for the Dubs, I was left feeling very contented. A happiness not to be confused with smugness, that I am fortunate enough to be appreciating the spoils of a Dublin side who have worked bloody hard to resuscitate the body of Dublin football that had died of exhaustion post 1995. Therefore I was proud and enthused, rather than dismayed and disgusted when I saw Alan Brogan punching the air, pointing to the scoreboard and raising the pulses of Dubs all over Croke Park. I was enthused because it showed me just how much it means to them, that winning for Dublin is what they are dedicating the best years of their lives to. Being at the game, you are privy to a lot of the niggles and incidents that occur off the ball, before the ball is delivered, and after the ball has departed. Alan Brogan and Mark Vaughan had been on the receiving end of plenty of antagonism all afternoon and I would not begrudge any one of those lads to go totally bananas when they knew that all their hard work had paid off. Holier than thou journalists should back off and have a look at the bigger picture, the sniping is getting tedious. There will of course be bigger days ahead now, where Croker will rock again and the boys in blue will be fired up, full of intensity to win once more for the pride of Dublin. For now, let both us, and them, enjoy this for what it is. Well done boys, you did us proud again. Last Updated ( Monday, 16 July 2007 ) No other team creates as many chances as the dubs . Tyrone rely on their defence while kerry are on the way down Dublin win alot of possession, but chances seem to be mostly against weaker opposition so far - still, this year they have more cut up front so far Tyrone are scoring more on average than any other team, even without McGuigan, and others not fully back to match sharpness. And how are Kerry on the way down? I suppose it's hard to be on the way up after winning 2 Sams in 3 years
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 23:23:02 GMT
No other team creates as many chances as the dubs . Tyrone rely on their defence while kerry are on the way down to true there martyn,the dubs have it all this year and the green and gold will do well 2 stop them "Have it all"? All what? Based on what evidence? Poor Big Mac, you must be very bored these days But you shouldnt start slagging off Kerry just because of that
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 23:24:36 GMT
No other team creates as many chances as the dubs . Tyrone rely on their defence while kerry are on the way down what are u on about? how can u saw tyrone rely on their defence when it nearly cost them against monaghan. i agree with one thing though no body creates as many chances as d dubs, when d play against d might of laois and offaly. i wont even comment about kerry on d way down. u must be one of d dubs doing coke on d hill with those insane comments ;D Class!
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 23:31:08 GMT
Roy Curtis is very disingenuous towards Donaghy. He recalls his action towards Paul Hearty but neglects to say that Donaghy apologised for his actions. Pat Spillane expects that Dublin will go all the way. Charlie Redmond goes further......... basically says that the Dubs are back, that the pieces have fallen into place and its just a matter of going through the motions before picking up the SAM MAGUIRE CUP. In the indo Colm o Rourke has a pop at the showboating carryon but says that the performance by the Dubs was "All Ireland winning standard". You must spend alot of time researching all your propoganda & organising the selective quotes, it really is most impressive, but then Kerry people have always been very gifted with words. Still, how do you find the time to go to games at all, or to think & talk about the Kerry team, or any other team?
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 22, 2007 23:32:54 GMT
Great win Harrington - couldnt happen to a nicer fella. Must be our year alright - there's no hope for the rest of yis ;D
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 22, 2007 23:36:05 GMT
you'd have to admire the dublin media,for creating the them against us mentality,they all hate us,ABD,anything but dublin,classic from one of dublins jurnos today.
the lads are right,the blue tide will carry all before it inside the pale this summer(gobseens and all),harrington a dub won the open today and bernard dunne is on the verge of winning a world boxing title,i telling ye,everything is hunky dory and blue in the big smoke.
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Post by Owenabue on Jul 23, 2007 11:34:59 GMT
Rashers, please oh please, if you ever want me to reply to any of your post, do not call Paul Caffery 'Pillar'. But if I must answer this last one, Billy's record answers that one. To answer you, I don't know enough about Dublin to make proper comparisons. The reason is simple, I don't watch that many games on tv because I've trouble enough getting away to games. Last year I would have picked Murphy over Whelan. Cluxton I think is highly overrated, very few are as good as Canty, but I will have to see him playing a bit more to see if he's back to himself after the injury. Spillane is a very good centre back, so I would have picked him anyway. Masters, on a good day is like Corkery of old putting points over that you would think impossible. Are the Dublin forwards like that?! As you see, I do wear rose tinted classes when it come to Cork. Is that a threat or a promise? I don't make threats....
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Post by KevinT on Jul 23, 2007 15:40:55 GMT
Great win Harrington - couldnt happen to a nicer fella. Must be our year alright - there's no hope for the rest of yis ;D Actually , Padraigs father Paddy( RIP ) hails from the Beara peninsula around Ardgroom . He played Senior football for Cork and was on the All Ireland losing side to Louth in 1957 . His uncle was Captain of Kenmare Golf Club for many years . Maybe tis Corks year Mr Tierney !
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 23, 2007 18:27:06 GMT
Roy Curtis is very disingenuous towards Donaghy. He recalls his action towards Paul Hearty but neglects to say that Donaghy apologised for his actions. Pat Spillane expects that Dublin will go all the way. Charlie Redmond goes further......... basically says that the Dubs are back, that the pieces have fallen into place and its just a matter of going through the motions before picking up the SAM MAGUIRE CUP. In the indo Colm o Rourke has a pop at the showboating carryon but says that the performance by the Dubs was "All Ireland winning standard". You must spend alot of time researching all your propoganda & organising the selective quotes, it really is most impressive, but then Kerry people have always been very gifted with words. Still, how do you find the time to go to games at all, or to think & talk about the Kerry team, or any other team? What have Eugene McGee, Vincent Hogan, Keith Barr, Pat Spillane, Colm O Rourke, Charlie Redmond, Yer man on the Dubs website, Billy Keane, Frank Roche, Roy Curtis ALL got in common? They all tip Dublin. If Dublin win it as they probably will........... do it with a bit of class.......... forget Bart Simpson.
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Post by martym on Jul 23, 2007 20:33:22 GMT
Great win Harrington - couldnt happen to a nicer fella. Must be our year alright - there's no hope for the rest of yis ;D I suppose he will be parading the jug before the Dubs 1/4 final on the 11
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 23, 2007 21:52:04 GMT
A Dublin v Meath quarter final would be fascinating. In the first match Dublin started without Mark Vaughan and Bernard Brogan.
Similarly Meath started without Shane O Rourke and the suspended Brian Farrell.
All four are key players after a few matches.
Eugene Magee says in todays indo that while Meath are back in a big way they are not of all Ireland standard yet. I found that a bit strange to be honest.
Maybe Galway made Meath look good..............
Time will tell.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 23, 2007 22:31:45 GMT
Great win Harrington - couldnt happen to a nicer fella. Must be our year alright - there's no hope for the rest of yis ;D I suppose he will be parading the jug before the Dubs 1/4 final on the 11 He'll be in the sweltering heat of Southern Hills, Tulsa, Oklahoma, trying to add the USPGA title to his name.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 23, 2007 22:55:24 GMT
You must spend alot of time researching all your propoganda & organising the selective quotes, it really is most impressive, but then Kerry people have always been very gifted with words. Still, how do you find the time to go to games at all, or to think & talk about the Kerry team, or any other team? What have Eugene McGee, Vincent Hogan, Keith Barr, Pat Spillane, Colm O Rourke, Charlie Redmond, Yer man on the Dubs website, Billy Keane, Frank Roche, Roy Curtis ALL got in common? They all tip Dublin. If Dublin win it as they probably will........... do it with a bit of class.......... forget Bart Simpson. Another great selective statement there Mick. All the above actually tip Kerry & Tyrone, but say that Dublin could challenge the above two. Class? Madser is a Southsider, how much more class do you want? Sure most Kerry people are wannabe Southsiders
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 23, 2007 23:04:29 GMT
Great win Harrington - couldnt happen to a nicer fella. Must be our year alright - there's no hope for the rest of yis ;D I suppose he will be parading the jug before the Dubs 1/4 final on the 11 He should save it for the semi against Meath - just like Stephen Roche in 87 before the Leinster Final ;D
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 23, 2007 23:05:48 GMT
Is that a threat or a promise? I don't make threats.... Are you upset with Steo's comments? Should Pillar make him apologise?
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 23, 2007 23:10:01 GMT
Great win Harrington - couldnt happen to a nicer fella. Must be our year alright - there's no hope for the rest of yis ;D Actually , Padraigs father Paddy( RIP ) hails from the Beara peninsula around Ardgroom . He played Senior football for Cork and was on the All Ireland losing side to Louth in 1957 . His uncle was Captain of Kenmare Golf Club for many years . Maybe tis Corks year Mr Tierney ! Harrington is a good Cork name, sure jaysus, we all have our cross to beara It's the southsider bit I struggle with - Padraig the hero, and now all hopes rest on Kilmacud's Madser Vaughan, how long can we hold this flimsy marriage of convenience together??
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 23, 2007 23:11:05 GMT
A Dublin v Meath quarter final would be fascinating. In the first match Dublin started without Mark Vaughan and Bernard Brogan. Similarly Meath started without Shane O Rourke and the suspended Brian Farrell. All four are key players after a few matches. Eugene Magee says in todays indo that while Meath are back in a big way they are not of all Ireland standard yet. I found that a bit strange to be honest. Maybe Galway made Meath look good.............. Time will tell. What do you really think? It's easy to be vague, but the time for sitting on the fence is over
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 24, 2007 15:14:54 GMT
Meath are a decent team alright, make to look better by a Galway team on a serious decline.
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on Jul 24, 2007 19:58:57 GMT
Meath are a decent team alright, make to look better by a Galway team on a serious decline. Galway could be very good, I blame their coach. You'll never know from Galway, they keep it quiet, and inscrutable. Unlike Kerry, who keep it quiet, and cryptic
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