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Post by pony on May 30, 2007 19:36:17 GMT
sorry for my ignorance lads, but............
any info on Daniel Doyle???
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Post by Catrionaosullivan on May 30, 2007 19:42:21 GMT
Should be an easy win for Kerry!! Quirke deserves his starting place! So... i'm going say KERRY: 3-19 WATERFORD: 0-08
Love to be heading to the game myself but the auld leaving cert is starting 3days later so I'b only the one chance at that so its a case of cramming infront of the tv on sunday!! Gutting tho haven't missed a championship game in years!! And my league games this year were at a minimum too... Good luck to Pat and the Lads! This year we'l get Munster... as well as Sam!!
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Post by kerryeye on May 30, 2007 19:59:38 GMT
jez lads easy on the high scores. a cute hoor like Kiley will use everything to get the Waterford lads going. EVERYTHING!! even this site who knows. Kerry 2-11 Waterford 0-10. Fine to say that but do u actually think that will be the score. dont be gettin so worried,think kiely might be more worried bout trainin than reading the forum. What info do u want on Doyle??His transfer didnt go through because of a rule which says you cant transfer to a club if youre a college student in the town as his home address is still in Churchill.
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Post by Aine on May 30, 2007 20:00:34 GMT
Kerry 2-14 Waterford 0-10
Bet there are loads of counties who would love to have the kerry subs bench on their starting 15!
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Post by pony on May 30, 2007 20:04:04 GMT
jez lads easy on the high scores. a cute hoor like Kiley will use everything to get the Waterford lads going. EVERYTHING!! even this site who knows. Kerry 2-11 Waterford 0-10. Fine to say that but do u actually think that will be the score. dont be gettin so worried,think kiely might be more worried bout trainin than reading the forum. What info do u want on Doyle??His transfer didnt go through because of a rule which says you cant transfer to a club if youre a college student in the town as his home address is still in Churchill. ya that score would be an honest prediction. its a 7 point win, think something like that would do nicely. i would like to see kerry get a goal or 2 against them this year just my question on doyle. what kinda footballer is he? best position etc etc.............
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Post by watchdehop on May 30, 2007 20:04:43 GMT
How many of those who are predicting an easy win for Kerry were actually at last years game. Since then I would say waterford have improved and are at home this time. I think Kerry will win but I would say Waterford will give them a lot of trouble.
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Post by kerryeye on May 30, 2007 20:14:21 GMT
Pony Doyles best position is wing back,was corner back for juniors last year and looked a class act.Very tough defender.I dont think theres much between him,reidy or young.
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Post by pony on May 30, 2007 20:19:11 GMT
ya waterford were very good last year in killarney.
must say that the weather really evened things up though to be fair.
but at the same time kerry found it hard to break them down never created one goal chance.
they are a very physical outfit in midfield especially.
daragh will be getting fairly hard hits come sunday from these two.
hopefully they wont push too many buttons to set daragh off.
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Post by dart on May 30, 2007 21:01:32 GMT
Tommy Griffin is proven to be one of our best 15. Against Waterford however, I feel like the management, that it is the perfect time to give big Quirke a championship start. He didnt do half bad in the league either I might add.
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Post by Deise Exile on May 30, 2007 21:08:39 GMT
Lads, Great to see the Forum back up. Its wintered well. Thought Quill might make it ahead of Russell. Is Star fully fit? I'll be there on Sunday cheering on the lads. Good to see Quirke get a chance at midfield, he's flying in training by all accounts. Young a class act too
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Post by ArthurG on May 30, 2007 21:31:58 GMT
i'm a long campaigner of Quirke on this forum and am delighted to see the big beefy man get his run....
Kerry 3-11 (because they almost always get 11 points) Waterford 0-12
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on May 30, 2007 23:22:18 GMT
Back in the 1980's the league started in October, had shag all of the regulars playing at that stage, then you had a long break in the middle and in Feb a few of the regulars drifted back in with big bellies. Not the type of championship I would aspire to. No one gave a damn about the league then. At least now it starts early in the year and runs in to the championship My point is that we use the league format from the 80s as the championship ......starting in May and finishing in Late august............. with 4 quarter finals, 2 semis and a final. In that format back then, any team could aspire to winning the whole thing.........In 1985 Laois came from nowhere to win it........ one or two quarter final places were for teams who had won the lower divisions. Every team played about 8 matches. any by the way........ there would be no leagues........ just the above combination of league and then knockout championship. I can do drawings for you rashers if you cant follow it Cant folllow what? Sullyschoice?
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Post by JOAN on May 31, 2007 0:42:11 GMT
I like the team for Sunday great to see young back I mentioned in a earlier post that I though he would be giving a start for the Championship. If he had not got injured he would have his name on his spot by now. I liekt eh idea of starting Quike also I hear he is flying in training at midfield.I did think Griffen would start and I was suprised that neither Darren or Sean O Sullivan were not starting.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on May 31, 2007 9:00:05 GMT
I have long being a supporter of Micheál Quirke on this thread and am delighted to see him get his chance in his proper position of midfield for this one. While the lad can do a job at ful forward I think he would benigfit from being in the thick of the action from the outset. Once he settles down and gets used to the pace of the game at championship level then u can think about moving him in to the edge of the smal rectangle. In fairness I think kinda throwing him in at full forward for most games was no help to him. Even Kieran got a chance to have a good run in the side throughout the league in his natural position of midifeld. This enabled him to get to the pitch of the game first and get comfortable with the srup b4 he was tried somewhere else
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Post by kerrygold on May 31, 2007 10:51:49 GMT
I have long being a supporter of Micheál Quirke on this thread and am delighted to see him get his chance in his proper position of midfield for this one. While the lad can do a job at ful forward I think he would benigfit from being in the thick of the action from the outset. Once he settles down and gets used to the pace of the game at championship level then u can think about moving him in to the edge of the smal rectangle. In fairness I think kinda throwing him in at full forward for most games was no help to him. Even Kieran got a chance to have a good run in the side throughout the league in his natural position of midifeld. This enabled him to get to the pitch of the game first and get comfortable with the srup b4 he was tried somewhere else it will be interesting to see how this selection works out ATW.
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Post by kerryman1 on May 31, 2007 11:05:50 GMT
Jez Kerry have some unreal forwards on the bench.... Just imagine a set of forwards from the subs:
Sean Sullivan Brian Sheehan Darren o Sullivan
Declan Quill Paul o Connor Kieran o Leary
and you'd still be leaving off: Donnacha Walsh Ronan Hussey Daniel Bohane
Thats is a fair set of forwards!!
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Post by Jo90 on May 31, 2007 11:42:34 GMT
Not sure about all the predictions of goals either, Kerry haven't scored a goal in the Munster c'ship since Declan O'Sullivan's goal against Cork 2 years ago.
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Post by pony on May 31, 2007 12:01:25 GMT
Not sure about all the predictions of goals either, Kerry haven't scored a goal in the Munster c'ship since Declan O'Sullivan's goal against Cork 2 years ago. true..... but to be fair thats one munster c'ship.(3 games) with out a goal after munster last year how many goals did we score 11 was it. def goals in this team
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Post by kerryeye on May 31, 2007 13:15:49 GMT
Well it was four games actually,but with star inside there is always chance of goals.
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Post by seamus on May 31, 2007 14:19:16 GMT
I think it is a good game to ease reidy and young into championship football and i hope they play well. It is a bit off putting when you have 2 new players probably going in against a fired up cork team in a few weeks but they are both very impressive.
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Post by diehard on May 31, 2007 14:42:28 GMT
reckon Quirke will do a job against what is a physical Waterford midfield that hasnt much football in them! He hasn't got much fooball in him either
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Post by kerrygold on May 31, 2007 16:26:20 GMT
thats desturbing to hear donie was banished for refusing to do weights,i wasnt aware of the situation,donie almost walked last year because a national league game and an big u21 game clashed and he became the squashed ham in the middle given an ultimatum in which game to partake in.No wonder micko collected the traps,first sail back down south west way and then crossed the wicklow mountains. Many claimed micko was out dated not scentific enough,i cant wait to see if laois will have progressed from last year,my suspicions say by not a lot. Wouldnt it be intriging if wicklow and laois met in this years leinster semi final,not beond the bounds of posibilities either.
Geting back to donie,pushing the many donies across the country over the top is the straw will eventually break the camels back,demand everything but give nothing back,player welfare is a joke at the moment and if questioned by players they are treated with resentment and scoff.
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Post by sullyschoice on May 31, 2007 19:42:21 GMT
He's back on the panel now
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Post by Piggy on May 31, 2007 20:45:16 GMT
as a man once said on my way out of a north kerry championship match 'TOO small TOO light.......won't do'
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Post by JOAN on May 31, 2007 21:52:48 GMT
Quirke does not do well in this game it will be tha last we will see of him I hope he does cause he if flying at training and with his club. I said it mts ago they amount of talent we have in the forward line is huge and its hard for a lad to make it when you have proven players like Galvin, delcan gooch star MFR and eoin at least there are options now. I think Young is going to be huge for kerry this year he is the most promising
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jun 1, 2007 7:11:47 GMT
Thursday's newspapers, at least in my small corner, generally have the least to say in comparision with any of their conterparts. Today, for example, dared question whether the ex Carlow bank official would ever turn a profit on his Eur600 mn investment in Ballsbridge, or whether the tiler who paid Eur95mn eur per acre for a neighbouring site might get planning for his proposed 2789 floor apartment block ? Aidan O'Brien has declared himself in the Derby- paddy bradley, having been cleared of all kinds of calumny, has now appealed to the Supreme court for another hearing, as he was just joking and of course he was guilty all along.... and failing that he'll appeal to Macra Na Feirme, or the Carmalite sisters in Moate, or as a complete last resort to seatless Joe Higgins !! Am I rambling perhaps ? probably more shocked, if I'm honest........... Why ?.....and this is very difficult even to write.....Donie Brennan was dropped off the Laois panel during the Winter for not wanting to do weights !......Is anything sacred anymore?....is the era of the small man with the big virtue behind us ? And as if to drive the stake home (in the old days it would have been a match), the accompanying article extoles the virtues of Kerry's "new" 17 stone, 6 "7 inch goliath , who apparently is "flying" in training (god held poor Donie and his ilk if he ever crash lands !) . Cork , in retaliation have a 6 ft 9 full forward (he has grown since the game against Limerick) ..... Sligo apparently have a full forward line comprising of Barry Bonds Ohare, Quin Jing hong kearns and the Enniscrone town hall. Where will it end ? Ciaran Mcgeeney becomes the first man to complete a full week , round the clock, of constant press ups ? The British Rugby league team are all adopted, called mulryan and play for wicklow ? No more I say !! Draw a line under it here and now (a small one with a very light pencil should do for Donie) .... allow the big men but cherish the small ones, extole their virtues !.... If I wanted golf balls on my rosary beads I'd have asked for them ! --- No more weights for Donie Brennan. Why shouldn't he be allowed to swim the way he always has done, with an armband around his waist ? ---- Bring back the small tidy corner forward for whom the imposition of a miraculous medal around his neck by his concerned mother became a serious weight/body mass issue ! ---- Cherish the man with the unicep who can hide behind a blade of grass on a perished North kerry junior championship pitch ---- Follow Con Houlihan's astute and caring example ie at an national league match many moons ago he purchased the thinnest, hungriest program he had ever seen, and having thrust it into the cavernous pockets of his fabled duffle proceeeded back to the seller, bought another program and promptly put it into the same pocket -"to keep the first creathur company, as I had so much pity for it " ----- Hark the man for whom reaching the pedal at the bumpers during the Rose festival became a yearly crisis ---- How is it that we need our sportsmen like hungry plants competitively spiralling ever higher from the Amazonian jungle floor in search for sunlight?.....and by the same token we seem to need our leaders and role models small ? Look at Mother Theresa, if she was 6ft 5 instead of 2 ft 6 she would most likely have gone to the US on an early basketball scholarship and never been heard of again ! Size in Gaelic football increasingly seems to be everything and while this trend may well continue for now, we as supporters must always cherish the mistique of the small man, keep his place in folklore --- the GAA needs the nocepped and the unicepped, it was built on and with lads like Donie Brennan (an awful lot of them i'll grant you but...) ... small , tidy corner men, WE SALUTE YOU. Gawksie, you were badly missed. One of the finest and funniest posts since your pre All Ireland posts. An no, donIe shouldn't have been dropped. Was Ogie dropped as a young fella?
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 1, 2007 7:18:41 GMT
a whole generation of small talented hurlers in Kilkenny never got a look in under Cody................ every one has to be able to put up the hand and catch the ball in the paw.........that is Codys first requiremnt. Being able to win your own "independent" ball is crusial as a corner forward......... that is why Gooch is the complete forward and why MRF and Quill cant play together in the full forward line at the same time.
Liam Kearns is a shrewd operator......... to win the All Ireland you must first of all win the physical battle........ then win the ball gamel
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 1, 2007 7:28:23 GMT
Kerry: D Murphy, P Reidy, T O'Sullivan, M Ó Sé, T Ó Sé, A O'Mahony, K Young, D Ó Sé, M Quirke, D O'Sullivan, E Brosnan, P Galvin, C Cooper, K Donaghy, M Russell.
Great to see new blood. Essential for the Kerry team of 2012 to see that happen. If that team catches fire on a given day it will beat anyone. The trick nowadays is to muddle through and keep the big performance till it matters most
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Post by buck02 on Jun 1, 2007 9:17:58 GMT
The selection of Michael Quirke at midfield raises a few questions in my mind:
Is he the second best midfielder in the county? What will he bring to the team now that he was unable to bring over the last 4 years.
Is he getting a chance because its only Waterford (no disrespect but you know what I mean). If he doesnt do it on Sunday the management will be able to say - we gave him a chance against a Div 4 team and he couldnt take it.
Has this something to do with Pat O Sheas basketball obsession - the fact that Quirke is a basketballer has Pat more time for him than he should (I'm waiting to get attacked on this point!!).
Also what does this mean for Brian Sheehan? He's been tried midfield, half forward & corner forward for Kerry and just still doesnt do it for me. Theres no doubting his place kicking which is absolutely superb but I'm not sure if he'll make the grade. Mike Frank is still getting in the full forward line ahead of him, Declan Sullivan & Brosnan are ahead of him in the half forward line and now he seems to have fallen behind Quirke, Griffin and even Seamus Scanlon(!) at midfield now.
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Post by Owenabue on Jun 1, 2007 9:28:34 GMT
I'd still put Bryan Sheehan on the team, but me being from Cork might explain that...
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