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Post by Mickmack on May 29, 2007 20:46:03 GMT
unless they scrap the provincial system....... you wont get a proper system.
anyone remember the old national leagues in the 80s ...... a great competition. that format would be ideal for the championship
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Post by sullyschoice on May 29, 2007 21:27:22 GMT
Back in the 1980's the league started in October, had shag all of the regulars playing at that stage, then you had a long break in the middle and in Feb a few of the regulars drifted back in with big bellies. Not the type of championship I would aspire to. No one gave a damn about the league then.
At least now it starts early in the year and runs in to the championship
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Post by MrRasherstoyou on May 29, 2007 21:40:01 GMT
unless they scrap the provincial system....... you wont get a proper system. anyone remember the old national leagues in the 80s ...... a great competition. that format would be ideal for the championship You said, "they wont scrap it", then, "until they do that" Must be old age......or just the usual Kerry contradictions  They will scrap them eventually I'm sure, it's the only way to make the County competitions attractive for the modern era |
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Post by spaman50 on May 30, 2007 0:33:12 GMT
Sean sullivan wont start at all.Dec will prob play. Sean sullivan had no real chance during league. Was taken off against donegal.Would be very surprised if he started. Is killian Young back fit he is?
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Post by animal on May 30, 2007 8:07:15 GMT
radio reports say Pat has a full panel to pick from which is good news. It also means that he will have plenty of selection headaches and his team will show what way he's thinking. I wouldn't be overly worried if Kerry do not perform well on Sunday. We don't have a history of starting the summer in flying form and very often struggle against the likes of Waterford, Tip etc.
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Post by Mickmack on May 30, 2007 8:32:52 GMT
Back in the 1980's the league started in October, had shag all of the regulars playing at that stage, then you had a long break in the middle and in Feb a few of the regulars drifted back in with big bellies. Not the type of championship I would aspire to. No one gave a damn about the league then. At least now it starts early in the year and runs in to the championship My point is that we use the league format from the 80s as the championship ......starting in May and finishing in Late august............. with 4 quarter finals, 2 semis and a final. In that format back then, any team could aspire to winning the whole thing.........In 1985 Laois came from nowhere to win it........ one or two quarter final places were for teams who had won the lower divisions. Every team played about 8 matches. any by the way........ there would be no leagues........ just the above combination of league and then knockout championship. I can do drawings for you rashers if you cant follow it |
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Post by Control3 on May 30, 2007 10:46:51 GMT
Kerry boss Pat O'Shea has named his starting fifteen to face Waterford in their Munster semi-final clash at Dungarvan on Sunday.
Minor injury concerns Killian Young and Kieran Donaghy came through training and are named in the starting line-up.
Donaghy is joined in the forward line by Colm Cooper and Mike Frank Russell.
Tommy Griffin came through a club game for Dingle unscathed and is handed a place on the bench.
Waterford boss John Kiely has named the same XV that beat Clare in the previous round.
Kerry: D Murphy, P Reidy, T O'Sullivan, M Ó Sé, T Ó Sé, A O'Mahony, K Young, D Ó Sé, M Quirke, D O'Sullivan, E Brosnan, P Galvin, C Cooper, K Donaghy, M Russell.
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Post by watchdehop on May 30, 2007 11:26:55 GMT
Strong team.
Big chance for Young and Reidy to step up.
Expect Reidy to move to the left corner.
I guess Declan must be showing more sharpness than Sean O'Sullivan.
The same with Quirke over Scanlon at midfield.
I am assuming Griffin's injury came against him there.
Sheehan, Quill and Sean Sullivan and Darren will surely be chomping at the bit to get on.
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Post by hatchetman on May 30, 2007 11:39:01 GMT
Who's the captain for Sunday, Declan or Killian?
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Post by inforthebreaks on May 30, 2007 12:08:01 GMT
i presume Mike Frank will take all frees from distance and the 50's. Interesting to see Killian young on the wing. Thought he would have a better chance for corner back.
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Post by kerryeye on May 30, 2007 12:46:45 GMT
As expected no place on team for bryan sheehan and i think he'll be down the peckin order when it comes to people coming on,sean o sull and Quill surely ahead of him.
i wonder how Declan will do on the wing?Hope it suits him,think that could be our most lethal half forward line.Mfr will take the frees,would prefer to have a new captain but dont fancy bringing up the issue gain!!
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Post by animal on May 30, 2007 12:55:39 GMT
team is ok. Quirke will have to do an awful lot to convince me I'm afraid. I also have my doubts about Reidy's strength in the corner. Forwards look formidable. Hope Declan does well.
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Post by hatchetman on May 30, 2007 12:56:52 GMT
would prefer to have a new captain but dont fancy bringing up the issue gain!! Well done in not bringing up the captaincy issue again and also remember, don't mention the war! |
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Post by ArthurG on May 30, 2007 13:03:44 GMT
It will be interesting to see how Quirke gets on against the big Waterford midfield. I susspect that was a factor in his selection. Quill should have been started based on his impressive league.
Kerry by at leasst 8 points on Sunday.
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Post by diehard on May 30, 2007 13:18:37 GMT
Kerry boss Pat O'Shea has named his starting fifteen to face Waterford in their Munster semi-final clash at Dungarvan on Sunday. Minor injury concerns Killian Young and Kieran Donaghy came through training and are named in the starting line-up. Donaghy is joined in the forward line by Colm Cooper and Mike Frank Russell. Tommy Griffin came through a club game for Dingle unscathed and is handed a place on the bench. Waterford boss John Kiely has named the same XV that beat Clare in the previous round. Kerry: D Murphy, P Reidy, T O'Sullivan, M Ó Sé, T Ó Sé, A O'Mahony, K Young, D Ó Sé, M Quirke, D O'Sullivan, E Brosnan, P Galvin, C Cooper, K Donaghy, M Russell. Is tommy griffin carrying an injury or not cause if he is startin quirke ahead of him he is insane ps sean sullivan should be playin |
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Post by seamus on May 30, 2007 13:49:44 GMT
tommy is still injured and has played very little in recent weeks
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Post by kerryeye on May 30, 2007 14:00:48 GMT
tommy is still injured and has played very little in recent weeks Very little being three co. championship games in 3 weeks!! I think this is the game to give Quirke his chance however,if he fails to deliver then i dont think we'll be seein much of him during the summer but if he brings his club form to the team could be a vital addition,it'll be very interesting to see how he does. |
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Post by kerrygold on May 30, 2007 14:01:50 GMT
forget the captaincy lads,its not relevant this year.
strong looking team,i suspect they moved marc over to balance the two flanks of defence,you couldnt have two rookies down the same flank in their debut year.
good luck to pat and the lads on sunday,it should be a comfortable victory for kerry.
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Post by Aine on May 30, 2007 14:33:40 GMT
Id say this is Quirks 1 chance to impress. He played exceptionally well in the league match against Dublin so maybe he has retained his form. Hope things wont be blown out of proportion following the result. If we win it doesn't matter if its by 1 point or 10 points.
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Post by watchdehop on May 30, 2007 14:53:07 GMT
RE: Quirke. Isn't Tommy carrying an injury?
So it was probably down to Scanlon or Quirke to start.
Plus aren't the selectors the ones looking at the players week in and week out.
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Post by diehard on May 30, 2007 15:04:56 GMT
tommy is still injured and has played very little in recent weeks this is a boarderline excuse a best |
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Post by Piggy on May 30, 2007 15:13:33 GMT
reckon Quirke will do a job against what is a physical Waterford midfield that hasnt much football in them!
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Post by MrT on May 30, 2007 15:22:38 GMT
Quirke deserves his chance just as everyone else does. Tommy Griffin has already proved his capabilities so there is no point risking him especially if less than 100% fit. This is a good championship match to test Quirke. Presumebly at some stage we will also see the introduction of Scanlon. Personaly I think if St. Kierans had had a couple of better games than the ones against St. Brendan and F Rangers then he would have started. However no harm to give Quirke a chance.
On another note I think that K Young is an outstanding player and will prove very capable. Himself and P Reidy are still young and realistically the future stalwards of the Kerry backline. Great to see young bucks been given a chance. Also D Doyle is listed as a sub on the main site as being Churchill, is that wrong, or did he indeed get his transfer
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Post by kerryeye on May 30, 2007 15:53:44 GMT
Transfer didnt go through at all.
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Post by kerrygold on May 30, 2007 15:58:22 GMT
The list of subs on the main site is pretty impressive.
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Post by Owenabue on May 30, 2007 16:03:13 GMT
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Post by Kingdomson on May 30, 2007 16:13:41 GMT
Here is my score prediction, laugh away…..but I still think it will be a high score as this Kerry team, under a new managment, will put down a marker to all.
I feel sorry for Waterford, we’re going to hammer them>
Kerry 6-20
Waterford 0-5
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Post by kerryeye on May 30, 2007 16:42:36 GMT
Its very hard to predict a score for games like these.there could be a score like bigbrother has predicted or we could see a game where kerry win by just 4 or 5 point,either way one thing that is for sure is that we will win.
Sure we might as well have a guess and see who's closest come Sunday evening.Think there are goals in us as we showed in our last 4 games last year.
Kerry 5-14.
waterford 0-7
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Post by tabbyie on May 30, 2007 18:54:51 GMT
Quirke needs to play in this game more than Tommy Griffin does. He needs to get a taste of the championship even though it's early days yet.
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Post by pony on May 30, 2007 19:34:50 GMT
jez lads easy on the high scores. a cute hoor like Kiley will use everything to get the Waterford lads going. EVERYTHING!! even this site who knows.
Kerry 2-11
Waterford 0-10.
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