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Post by kerrygold on Aug 31, 2009 9:55:30 GMT
The Bomber made a good point on the radio yesterday evening in relation to the best way to handle Canty and to curb his attacking game as he drives Cork forward.
The Bomber suggested putting kerrys busiest half forward on him,ie. the one most likely to handle the ball most often in an effort to keep Canty honest as a defender.
Tadhg put in a huge performance but I'm not convienced his was a huge presence on the forty yesterday,especially in the mould of a Grey Blaney,Brian McGuigan,Larry Thompkins at their peak.I had hoped for a little something extra from Tadhg yesterday.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 31, 2009 10:06:03 GMT
Tadhg put in a huge performance but I'm not convienced his was a huge presence on the forty yesterday,especially in the mould of a Grey Blaney,Brian McGuigan,Larry Thompkins at their peak.I had hoped for a little something extra from Tadhg yesterday. Have been shot down from all and sundry for querying Tadhg's man of the match award yesterday.....thought some of the stray passes would have seen to that..... Not that I'm complaining - he played very well and I'm delighted he's in the team........just not sure what all the raving is about. And well, I don't see why Donnacha came off........Tommy did do wonders when he came on, but I just think Donnacha was hard done by yesterday a little.
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Post by chrism on Aug 31, 2009 10:07:59 GMT
Thats what Tyrone failed to do curb Canty. But you also have to curb Miskella. Meath's pace was junior standard. Thats what worries me. They were playing ball to the open space but were so slow tring to get it. Corks pace is huge and they fly through the tackles.
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Aug 31, 2009 10:09:11 GMT
1-9 picks itself for the final. But there's a serious dilema picking the forwards. Does Kennelly stay at 11 after yesterday's good performance (Don't think he was MOTM though). Won't have it as easy against Canty. Where does Declan start, if not at FF? And surely Tommy Walsh has played himself back onto the first 15.
For me the team would be:
1-9 as is
10. Galvin 11. Declan. 12. Tadhg/Donnacha 13. Gooch. 14 Tommy. 15 Darren
Donnacha looks most likely to lose out, but someone has to lose out.
I think Declan needs to start on the 40, it remains his best position. I also believe he has a big game in him and could make hay against Canty. Leave Kennelly on the wing on Miskella.
I would rotate Tommy and perhaps Darren with Declan if needs be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2009 10:10:47 GMT
I think it will be Tadhg against Canty. If declan plays half forward Miskella will follow him, ditto Galvin and O Leary. Perhaps Darren could expose him for pace but I doubt Cork would allow this match up.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 31, 2009 10:15:38 GMT
Declan looked good to me yesterday,he seemed to be moving freely,his legs looked fresh for some reason.I think Declan is a raring for road to be honest.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 31, 2009 10:16:50 GMT
Declan looked good to me yesterday,he seemed to be moving freely,his legs looked fresh for some reason.I think Declan is a raring for road to be honest. Agreed.........there was more than meets the eye to the ball going into him yesterday.
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Post by Corner Back on Aug 31, 2009 10:42:46 GMT
Kerry know the 15 that will start for Cork Cork dont know the 15 that will start for Kerry
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Post by fivenarow on Aug 31, 2009 10:44:19 GMT
A O'M looking a bit leggy this year, don't think he'll start He looks stuck to the ground to me - IMO Kelly or Kerrigan would burn him at the moment. Tomas on Kelly & Killian on Kerrigan - my team barring injuries for the final would be. Diarmuid Marc,Tommy,Tom Tomas,Mike Mac,Killian Darragh,Seamus Paul G,Tadhg,Darren, Gooch,Declan,Tommy Walsh. Donnaghy cant be started after being out but would be great for 20 mins to upset things if we're in trouble.
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Post by Corner Back on Aug 31, 2009 10:47:16 GMT
Match ups for final... Marc on O Connor Tommy G on Goulding Tomm Sull on Colm O Neill (Corks most dangerous forward IMHO) Killian on Kerrigan Mike Mac on O Neill Tomas on Kelly IMO Goulding would make hay on tommy Tommy on OConnor even if he does roam out field
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Post by Corner Back on Aug 31, 2009 10:50:57 GMT
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Post by redisthecolour on Aug 31, 2009 10:56:14 GMT
Kerry know the 15 that will start for Cork Cork dont know the 15 that will start for Kerry I would disagree completely with this!! I think you have it the wrong way round. I think everyone knows Corks starting 15. Will the Kingdom be brave enough to start Donaghy in the final?? Thats the big question?? I think ye'll need him.
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Aug 31, 2009 10:56:32 GMT
Nothing to worry about I would say.
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Aug 31, 2009 10:57:21 GMT
Kerry know the 15 that will start for Cork Cork dont know the 15 that will start for Kerry I would disagree completely with this!! I think you have that the wrong way round. I think everyone knows Cors starting 15. Will the Kingdom be brave enough to start Donaghy in the final?? Thats the big question?? I think ye'll need him. Read his statement again. I think you misunderstood him.
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Post by mickthebridges on Aug 31, 2009 10:59:01 GMT
Kerry know the 15 that will start for Cork Cork dont know the 15 that will start for Kerry Jasus you are spot on there 'kingdom 36' Was listening to Murt Murphy there now on Kerry Radio and he said Nollaig O Laoire had a stinker for his club Cilleenamartaree yesterday and that Canty got cleaned out in his game for the divisional team he plays with. Also heard from a great source that Nicholas Murphy was horrid bad for Carrigaline yesterday too also as well. I rely on Murt a lot for top class information on GAA affairs. He seems to have a great grasp of things and is completely unbiased, just like the rest of us here. ;D
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Post by redisthecolour on Aug 31, 2009 11:00:38 GMT
I would disagree completely with this!! I think you have that the wrong way round. I think everyone knows Corks starting 15. Will the Kingdom be brave enough to start Donaghy in the final?? Thats the big question?? I think ye'll need him. Read his statement again. I think you misunderstood him. I stand corrected. I just had a quick glance at it. I would agree with him so!!
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 31, 2009 11:01:34 GMT
Will we get the full percentage return from the conundrum that is Paul v Noel from a kerry view point?
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Post by tottenham on Aug 31, 2009 11:20:33 GMT
Match ups for final... Marc on O Connor Tommy G on Goulding Tomm Sull on Colm O Neill (Corks most dangerous forward IMHO) Killian on Kerrigan Mike Mac on O Neill Tomas on Kelly IMO Goulding would make hay on tommy Tommy on OConnor even if he does roam out field You could be right kingdom but if the same full back line starts against cork as did yesterday we need to match them up... Colm o Neill was unreal against Tyrone and i think he is the real danger the next day thus putting tom sull on him...marc always does well on o connor when marc is fit not like munster final replay...goulding is the biggest of the full forward line so i think he is best suited to tom griff...
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 31, 2009 11:51:59 GMT
Kerry know the 15 that will start for Cork Cork dont know the 15 that will start for Kerry Jasus you are spot on there 'kingdom 36' Was listening to Murt Murphy there now on Kerry Radio and he said Nollaig O Laoire had a stinker for his club Cilleenamartaree yesterday and that Canty got cleaned out in his game for the divisional team he plays with. Also heard from a great source that Nicholas Murphy was horrid bad for Carrigaline yesterday too also as well. I rely on Murt a lot for top class information on GAA affairs. He seems to have a great grasp of things and is completely unbiased, just like the rest of us here. ;D Canty was poor enough to be fair. Terrible evening for football. Didn't see the Cill na Martra v Carrigaline match.
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Post by chrism on Aug 31, 2009 11:52:21 GMT
Totally wrong re Nicholas Murphy . He was meant to have been unreal yesterday. Would take all these with a grain of salt. Kerrigan was meant to have been awful for Nemo earlier in the year. 2 weeks later brillant for Cork. Only thing worth talking about is that Alan O Connor did not start due to a knee injury.
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 31, 2009 11:57:42 GMT
Totally wrong re Nicholas Murphy . He was meant to have been unreal yesterday. Would take all these with a grain of salt. Kerrigan was meant to have been awful for Nemo earlier in the year. 2 weeks later brillant for Cork. Only thing worth talking about is that Alan O Connor did not start due to a knee injury. Kerrigan was poor for Nemo v Carbery in the last round. Kavanagh was one of their better players that evening.
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Post by tottenham on Aug 31, 2009 12:02:00 GMT
Lads dont be reading too much into the club championship in Cork.
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 31, 2009 12:03:37 GMT
Lads dont be reading too much into the club championship in Cork. I wasn't. You'd hardly have put the dog out last night, so hardly an evening for an outstanding display of football.
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 31, 2009 12:55:59 GMT
Kieran is a natural footballer,what are his chances of being fit for the next day?
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Post by tottenham on Aug 31, 2009 13:21:13 GMT
In my opinion i dont think he will start. The 6 forward places are down to Paul, Tadhg, Donnacha, Gooch, Declan, Darren and Tommy. The only way i can see star starting is if he is flying in training or one of the 6 mentioned above get injured (touch wood). He would be great to bring on if we are under pressure as it would lift the team and supporters. The game yesterday was made for Kieran if he was fit. I agree with you kerrygold he is a natural footballer but he will lack match practice to start also in my opinion.
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Post by kerryscoob on Aug 31, 2009 14:05:30 GMT
For the final only changes to be made are in the forwards. Taking it that Kieran will be out, definite starters are Tadgh, Colm, Paul Galvin, Declan and I think Tommy. So where does that leave us I think we need Donnacha due to his work rate, but as usual won't finish.
Paul, Tadgh and Donnacha Colm, Declan and Tommy.
I fear Darren could lose out.
What are the positives to take since their last meeting.
Murphys confidence is back. Mike McCarthy is back and on fire. Killian fully fit. Tommy, Tomás and Tom flying . Marc now I hope will have 2 good hamstrings not one.( injured 5 mins into game)
Darragh 10 stone lighter and hoping to sign off his career with one final push for glory. Scanlon fit, was just back from injury in the replay.
Tadgh now has another few championship games under his belt. Tommy will also have 2 good legs ( started with 1 good leg). Colm coming back into form, but will I hope be fit. Will want to turn the table on Anthony Lynch Kieran at least will be on the bench, he is one player Cork truly believe can turn this game instantly, always has kept his best for them
Kerry team will now be at 30% fresher. Hunger rate will be higher.
Cork favoutites, are the form team, Kerry going in as underdgs.
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Post by Johnnyb on Aug 31, 2009 14:23:58 GMT
The first 20 mins will be played at a frenetic pace - Star, though fit, wouldnt be match sharp and I fear would be lost.
Once the game goes down a notch or two and the play settles - then Star should be introduced. Massive shot in the arm whether we're under pressure or not.
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Post by thepope on Aug 31, 2009 14:41:06 GMT
A O'M looking a bit leggy this year, don't think he'll start He looks stuck to the ground to me - IMO Kelly or Kerrigan would burn him at the moment. was trying to be diplomatic about it!!
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Aug 31, 2009 14:50:17 GMT
I think Paddy Kelly needs to be marked so AOM for me at No 7 That would mean Tomas on Kerrigan. He will get burned for pace. I think we need Killian on Kerrigan and put Tomas on Kelly. Let Tomas drive forward and keep Kelly on the back foot. Tomás marked Kerrigan in the replay in Páirc uí Chaoimh, if memory serves. He limited him to 1 point from play and he was replaced by Paul O flynn. Don't be too worried about the Ard A Bhóthair men, they know all about performing on the big stage on a big day.
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Post by chrism on Aug 31, 2009 15:05:43 GMT
Kerrigan was poor against Limerick and Waterford too but since going to Croke Park he has really stepped it up. As has Kelly. Kellys footpassing is brillant.Seems to have a great footballing brain but then his father is from Kerry.
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