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Post by sullyschoice on Sept 17, 2009 20:25:27 GMT
Conor Counihan said their corner back Ray Carey is fit and will play on sunday. Hope so. I dont really think he is that great anyway
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Post by sambo on Sept 17, 2009 20:31:36 GMT
Not sure the subs positions mean alot. If they do star at no 27 might as well stay at home... Alot of talk about our healthy bench. Question: We are 4 points down with ten minutes left... with the exception of Star, who would you bring on to take the game by the scruff of the neck and pull us over the line??? Nobody stands out to me. Paul O'Connor/Sheehan/Donnacha/Sean O'Sull/BJW... none of whom have a track record of same. Which is why I believe we need a Dublin type start to finish cork off early. Cos I believe we wont win a tight game. Hope I am wrong of course.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Sept 17, 2009 20:36:07 GMT
probably a bit surprised that Tommy Walsh is back in at FF, but maybe Declan will go into 14 with Darren going to wing-forward?? Hope so anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 20:45:53 GMT
Team as expected for me. The dropping of Donncha was always going to be a tough one but Tommy is too potent to leave on the bench.Like others I believe Darren could play wing forward.
The movement of Sheehan up the subs list does carry significance I believe.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Sept 17, 2009 20:51:01 GMT
Not sure the subs positions mean alot. If they do star at no 27 might as well stay at home... Alot of talk about our healthy bench. Question: We are 4 points down with ten minutes left... with the exception of Star, who would you bring on to take the game by the scruff of the neck and pull us over the line??? Nobody stands out to me. Paul O'Connor/Sheehan/Donnacha/Sean O'Sull/BJW... none of whom have a track record of same. Which is why I believe we need a Dublin type start to finish cork off early. Cos I believe we wont win a tight game. Hope I am wrong of course. This is what I'm worried about.
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Post by sullyschoice on Sept 17, 2009 20:51:40 GMT
He played very well against Cork in the second half of the drawn game
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Post by Laoch na hImeartha on Sept 17, 2009 21:00:32 GMT
I wouldnt have started tommy- I believe he'd be better coming of the bench. If its not working out you'd imagine they'd bring in Star- thats too like for like to be a major difference. time will tell i suppose............... Ciarraí Abú
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Sept 17, 2009 21:01:49 GMT
No complaints with the team selection really, Tommy might switch with Declan but then, Cork will have anticipated this. Feel sorry for Donncha but not really surprised, to be honest. So both teams have shown their hands, however, I am sure the decks will be shuffled a few times by the time we get to 3:30 Sunday. can't wait to finish work tomorrow, Sunday can't come quick enough!
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Post by Control5 on Sept 17, 2009 21:05:39 GMT
michael shields 5'10" ray carey 5"10 anthony lynch 5'10. this cork full back line is SMALL. lynch picks up cooper. carey picks up darran and shields (who is crap over his head ) on tommy walsh? dont think so, surely counihan will not allow this obvious mismatch? cadogan i suspect here on tommy or cork will leak. shields to move accross on darran and a more imposing player like cadogan on tommy. ray carey on the bench supposedly because of shoulder injury which if you ask me is probably a crock of XXXX. Cork have no answer here for tommy/donaghy. they should have coaxed derek cavanagh to stay around he would have being perfect for sunday. declan v miskella. tadgh v canty. galvin v noel. thank God for this half forward line. not a chance will they be able to launch attacks from this area. gooch will have to be negative on lynch when lynch is in possession he will have to tackle lynch. Darragh has already beat Nicholas Murphy and its only Thursday. the problem here is that when nicholas goes off darragh needs to come off also. let donaghy come on the pitch with goold. we dont want to see goold doing to darragh what kevin hughes did in 08. Scanlan will do his usual combat with alan o connor on kick-outs and drop in front of mike mac in maybe even take darragh if on the 50 and bring him back? o'neill will bullly the mild mannered mike mac but maybe cuteness might win out here on animal aggression. i suppose killian has more pace than tomas so will he pick up kerrigan? i dont know about tomas v kelly in open spaces i would be a bit concerned. i dont think donnacha o connor can do it he just looks too uncomfortable with mary mcaleese and the red carpet and the 80,000. marc will take care of him. tom o sull will have his hands full this colm o neill does not do stage fright. tommy griff is suited to goolding and should do ok.
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 17, 2009 21:10:26 GMT
Smart move. Gives us plenty of options and its hard to argue with the selection of tommy. This is his chance, lets hope he takes it. Half forward line is serious, particularty compared to last year's final. Nervous now.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 17, 2009 21:22:44 GMT
First of all, I feel for Donncha Walsh. He has impressed this year and must have been very close to starting.
Darren finally gets to start a final and thats great. He deseves to start.
With TW at 14 we have all options covered now from an attacking viewpoint.
We can send for the cavalry of Donaghy, Micheal Quirke, Anthony Maher, Davin Moran to lend a hand at midfield during the course of the game.
Tadhg did very well in the replay against Cork and his game game experience will stand to him.
Freetaking is a problem and there could be tons of frees with Marty Duffy as ref. That remains the biggest concern.
All in all though, I am happy with this team.
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Post by the1theyalllove on Sept 17, 2009 21:58:08 GMT
Well the team is named - obviously feel sorry for Donnacha but knowing the fella he is he will take it for the team.....think starting Tommy gives us more options you could rotate btwn darren declan and tommy in the fullforward and half forward line......would be a slight bit worried abt Tommy griffin i know he had a fantastic game the last day out and has been brill all season but think the cork full forward line wouldnt be the type of players to suit him......but hopefully he will cope well with them. Really midfield is the key....darragh and scanlan v's murphy and o'connor.......god i dont think i can right anymore im sick with nerves....off to read the kerryman and sleep on it ........
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 23:19:59 GMT
As expected I suppose but feel very sorry for Donacha as he's had a very good season so far. He might have a say yet. With Kennelly on the wing and Walsh FF we could see a lot of diagonal ball played in. Worked against Meath.
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Post by JOAN on Sept 18, 2009 0:26:42 GMT
donnacha is a work horse and doesnt get enough credit for it.. I must say I am suprised that tommy is startin..but I have to trust that Jack knowa wat he is doing.. all that said. I want to wish the team Jack, eamon, and company the very best.. gettin ready for dub now... Cant wait.. Ciarrai abu!!!!
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Post by patinkerry on Sept 18, 2009 0:43:34 GMT
Hope it works-hard especially for Donnacha but also for the other lads that didn't make it. I am get demented now and was initially disappointed with the lineout but sure its a logical choice and tis only me and my confusion that is going up and down. Hope its a great game for Kerry and football in general. Hope to see Kieran and Donnacha on the pitch at some stage and well Bryan has saved the day against Cork once already this year so who knows.....Ciarrai abu
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Post by mozzy on Sept 18, 2009 3:55:58 GMT
TG for the Forum ... when you are 6k miles away from the build up - the discussions - the debates and banter .... it truly helps to have a fine bunch of lads with experienced and educated points of view... thanks lads for that....
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Post by chieftain on Sept 18, 2009 6:34:07 GMT
i live here in langerland and i have being amazed at how much cork despise kerry. where all this badness comes from i do not know. someone needs to do a thesis on it. this week there is nothing but bad will towards me. it is not a healthy banter and slagging. i went to the kerry v armagh minor game and the cork supporters were delighted to see Armagh take us down. i dont think the hatred is reciprocated. is there not a part of the kerry footballing soul that can celebratete excellence? how can a man not wonder at the gooch or declan? its abnormal not to. they cant seem to up here
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Sept 18, 2009 7:12:34 GMT
Im sorry lads and lassies but my cover has been blown by the fraud squad on the cork site ;D - I recieved a PM from the head of their paranoia squad to retreat back to where i came from Fecking hillarious post then discussing same on the site Saw that. I think they take grave offence that we don't buy into their bullsh*t , and the suggestion that the "cute hoor" tag they love to put on themselves is another load of bollix is like waving a copy of the Satanic Verses in front of an Iranian mullah, it is an article of faith with them. FFS, who gives a sh*t what some chippy Kerryman who can't compose a post himself on their forum thinks, we're not giving away any team secrets or expressing the views of members of the Cork set up. Shur, we'll go like the Kerry forum, and we'll plámás them away instead of just them plámásing themselves. We'll give them all the grovelling sh*tetalk they are so used to from a fawning national media , tell them their all cute out ( a genetic gift to all Kerry folk of course) ,that Kerry are the team of the decade , and debate on which Kerry players don't make the ( all Kerry of course) GAA 125th team. There will be a good few counsulling sessions needed down leeside - these lads arent right in the head at all!!! Thats hilarious. I think the lot of them are slighly discomoded by the fact that the footballers are the only flag bearers they've had in years. This is furhter compounded by Kilkenny sh**ing all over their hurling heritage. I feel sympathy for them. Would they accept my sympathy? I doubt they'd want your sympathy. I too have been active there and indeed they sometimes seem obsessed with their neighbours from the mountains but I find Cork supporters to be quite nice. There has to be a bit of banter before the game and that's all part of the built up. By this time next week the fever is still high in one county and all will be quiet in the other one. My feeling is that it will be Kerry that will be the happier one of the two. Apart from the full back line we have a bench full of substitues for each position allowing us to change our style during the game to adapt to anything Cork can throw at us. They, unfortunately, have a few injury worries now like we had at the beginning of the year. Mike Mac returning to the fold has been the basis for our recovery and rise to the final.If we can keep our backs in order and have a defence like a wall we would be able to outscore the Cork forwards. Still a tough game. Nothing like 2007. Kerry to win by 2.
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Post by buck02 on Sept 18, 2009 7:14:40 GMT
Donnacha can feel unlucky but if Jack is going for scoring power then Tommy was an obvious choice. With Donnacha you know he wont sulk and will give it everything when he comes on.
Cork are such hot favourites with the pundits, I havnt seen Kerry come in as such underdogs ever. In the Kerryman All Ireland pull out, they interviewed 12 former players/current managers etc from around the county and asked them 4 questions - the last question being who will win? 9 went for Cork, 2 for Kerry and Kiely the ex-Waterford manager said he couldnt call it. Yesterday on Newstalk Brady & Hayes went for Cork while McGee went for Kerry. It was also 2-1 Cork in last weeks Sunday Game. I hear by the ad for the Sunday Indo Paidi is tipping Cork, O Rourke is going for Kerry.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 18, 2009 7:34:56 GMT
Donnacha can feel unlucky but if Jack is going for scoring power then Tommy was an obvious choice. With Donnacha you know he wont sulk and will give it everything when he comes on. Cork are such hot favourites with the pundits, I havnt seen Kerry come in as such underdogs ever. In the Kerryman All Ireland pull out, they interviewed 12 former players/current managers etc from around the county and asked them 4 questions - the last question being who will win? 9 went for Cork, 2 for Kerry and Kiely the ex-Waterford manager said he couldnt call it. Yesterday on Newstalk Brady & Hayes went for Cork while McGee went for Kerry. It was also 2-1 Cork in last weeks Sunday Game. I hear by the ad for the Sunday Indo Paidi is tipping Cork, O Rourke is going for Kerry. Shades of kerry V Dublin '09. Obviously Corks demolition of Tyrone is a key component of peoples analysis. Question is,how good really were jackal and hyde Tyrone in '09?
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Post by animal on Sept 18, 2009 7:50:56 GMT
Donnacha can feel unlucky but if Jack is going for scoring power then Tommy was an obvious choice. With Donnacha you know he wont sulk and will give it everything when he comes on. Cork are such hot favourites with the pundits, I havnt seen Kerry come in as such underdogs ever. In the Kerryman All Ireland pull out, they interviewed 12 former players/current managers etc from around the county and asked them 4 questions - the last question being who will win? 9 went for Cork, 2 for Kerry and Kiely the ex-Waterford manager said he couldnt call it. Yesterday on Newstalk Brady & Hayes went for Cork while McGee went for Kerry. It was also 2-1 Cork in last weeks Sunday Game. I hear by the ad for the Sunday Indo Paidi is tipping Cork, O Rourke is going for Kerry. Shades of kerry V Dublin '09. Obviously Corks demolition of Tyrone is a key component of peoples analysis. Question is,how good really were jackal and hyde Tyrone in '09? Ssssshhhhhhhhh! Cork are obviuosly brilliant having beaten an outstanding Tyrone team and sure they hammered us by 8 points earlier in the year. The Kerry v Dublin match was a one off and we're lucky to be in the final.... God lads stick with the programme / mantra
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Post by Johnnyb on Sept 18, 2009 8:18:40 GMT
Friday - at last!
I jumped out of the leaba this morning - first time of asking, no need to hit the snooze button 3 times as per usual. Whistled through the luas journey, hop skipped and jumped into the office and now the countdown begins in earnest!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 18, 2009 8:50:11 GMT
Woke up, couldn't get up......never ever do school night pints, especially when I've three big nights ahead of me.
Mind you, I always go home early the night before the match, reading Colm O'Rourke before I go to the cot.
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Post by kerryscoob on Sept 18, 2009 8:57:28 GMT
i live here in langerland and i have being amazed at how much cork despise kerry. where all this badness comes from i do not know. someone needs to do a thesis on it. this week there is nothing but bad will towards me. it is not a healthy banter and slagging. i went to the kerry v armagh minor game and the cork supporters were delighted to see Armagh take us down. i dont think the hatred is reciprocated. is there not a part of the kerry footballing soul that can celebratete excellence? how can a man not wonder at the gooch or declan? its abnormal not to. they cant seem to up here Chieftain I remember the year Armagh beat us, we had flown into Cork from Lanzarote, watched the match in the airport bar, herself who has no interest in the game but is born and bred Kerry was shocked at the HATRED for us including the kids from the rebels. They really do despise us, as others on the forum have noted reading rebelgaa.ie
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Post by Johnnyb on Sept 18, 2009 9:01:51 GMT
i live here in langerland and i have being amazed at how much cork despise kerry. where all this badness comes from i do not know. someone needs to do a thesis on it. this week there is nothing but bad will towards me. it is not a healthy banter and slagging. i went to the kerry v armagh minor game and the cork supporters were delighted to see Armagh take us down. i dont think the hatred is reciprocated. is there not a part of the kerry footballing soul that can celebratete excellence? how can a man not wonder at the gooch or declan? its abnormal not to. they cant seem to up here Chieftain I remember the year Armagh beat us, we had flown into Cork from Lanzarote, watched the match in the airport bar, herself who has no interest in the game but is born and bred Kerry was shocked at the HATRED for us including the kids from the rebels. They really do despise us, as others on the forum have noted reading rebelgaa.ie Langers hate everyone, even the Irish.
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Post by Owenabue on Sept 18, 2009 9:18:18 GMT
i live here in langerland and i have being amazed at how much cork despise kerry. where all this badness comes from i do not know. someone needs to do a thesis on it. this week there is nothing but bad will towards me. it is not a healthy banter and slagging. i went to the kerry v armagh minor game and the cork supporters were delighted to see Armagh take us down. i dont think the hatred is reciprocated. is there not a part of the kerry footballing soul that can celebratete excellence? how can a man not wonder at the gooch or declan? its abnormal not to. they cant seem to up here Chieftain I remember the year Armagh beat us, we had flown into Cork from Lanzarote, watched the match in the airport bar, herself who has no interest in the game but is born and bred Kerry was shocked at the HATRED for us including the kids from the rebels. They really do despise us, as others on the forum have noted reading rebelgaa.ie It's rebelgaa.com. It's funny how ye get odd if someone calls ye animals, yet see nothing wrong with constantly calling us langers. Pot calling the kettle black perhaps?
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 18, 2009 9:24:08 GMT
Chieftain I remember the year Armagh beat us, we had flown into Cork from Lanzarote, watched the match in the airport bar, herself who has no interest in the game but is born and bred Kerry was shocked at the HATRED for us including the kids from the rebels. They really do despise us, as others on the forum have noted reading rebelgaa.ie It's rebelgaa.com. It's funny how ye get odd if someone calls ye animals, yet see nothing wrong with constantly calling us langers. Pot calling the kettle black perhaps? In fairness now owen, outside of Paidi, how many other Kerry people do you know that go around calling people animals. And langer is a term of endearment when we use it.
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Post by Owenabue on Sept 18, 2009 9:36:00 GMT
It's rebelgaa.com. It's funny how ye get odd if someone calls ye animals, yet see nothing wrong with constantly calling us langers. Pot calling the kettle black perhaps? In fairness now owen, outside of Paidi, how many other Kerry people do you know that go around calling people animals. And langer is a term of endearment when we use it. As this place should be PG rating, I better not say in what context animal could be used.
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Post by tottenham on Sept 18, 2009 10:06:24 GMT
lads i think the team will not start as selected in position wise i think..
my thinking would be darren to the wing with Tadhg on the 40 on canty and declan moving to the corner or full with tommy goin to other place on full forward line
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Post by animal on Sept 18, 2009 10:10:01 GMT
In fairness now owen, outside of Paidi, how many other Kerry people do you know that go around calling people animals. And langer is a term of endearment when we use it. As this place should be PG rating, I better not say in what context animal could be used. I'd rather not be used at all thanks! Although Páidí's now famous quote is the inspiration behind my username.
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