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Post by Johnnyb on Sept 17, 2009 10:52:27 GMT
John Duggan from Today FM had Cork backed months ago at 7/1. He said this morning that "theres no doubt in mind" that they'd win. He's an astute tipster. I think he backed us against Dublin and gave Meath (plus 4). All adds to Cork pressure. No he advised a 100 on Dublin at 10/11 he said it was like buying money he was so certain dublin would beat kerry. I remember because it i texted into the show the tuesday after the dubs game! Thats good to hear so. His golf tips are usually excellent, on side note. Looks like we'll be going in as underdogs...happy days!
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Post by Johnnyb on Sept 17, 2009 10:54:30 GMT
Who exactly is John Duggan and what are his qualifications. If he is a DJ or a sports news reader then he must be right. Matt Cooper must have told him so. He's the one of the sports correspondent for Today FM. Matt Coopers not the worst for a langer - always talks up Kerry as the best holiday spot in Ireland. Every little helps!
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 17, 2009 11:03:36 GMT
Who exactly is John Duggan and what are his qualifications. If he is a DJ or a sports news reader then he must be right. Matt Cooper must have told him so. He's the one of the sports correspondent for Today FM. Matt Coopers not the worst for a langer - always talks up Kerry as the best holiday spot in Ireland. Every little helps! He was probably hoping for freebies on his next visit. Never trust a word that comes out of a langer's mouth.
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Post by Derek on Sept 17, 2009 11:11:55 GMT
The forum is a bit quiet this morning so i said id have a gander at the cork forum and duly signed up with my shiny new username 06KY36. I have read 2 pages and have to say i cant read anymore - i have however gathered a few lines for everyone's benefit just in case you werent going to do enough roaring and shouting on sunday already this should help get you going.
Title - donaghys interview ( the final is corks to loose ) He went on about Kerry being underdogs ( as a lot of them are at this stage). Yeah, massive underdogs indeed, with Cork evens and Kerry 11/10. I can only assume that Kerry folk persist with this kind of raiméis as another form of ego-massage ( ah jaysus, aren't we the cute hoors altogether) , and it might be great bullsh*t to feed the Dubs and the Dublin media with, but have they ever stopped to think how many times it has made a difference with Cork. The square root of f**k all times I would think, but shur we'll let them away with it if it makes them feel good about themselves.
Title - "Some things are best left unsaid",
I think that strategy is in place already,there's very little noise coming out of Cork camp compared to the endless sh*te and psychological warfare coming out of Kerry.
Title - Kerry Team
Early Thursday morning and Kerry haven't named their team yet from ny search of all the news websites. This is the county that values tradition and naming yr team early, as it will appear on the Sunday.
Kerry Tactics
they will have to try something to unsettle Cork early on, be that in the personnel they field or the tactics they employ ( "Tactics" of course can be read euphemistically in a team with personnel such as Darragh, Galvin et al on board) Kerry's biggest trump card ( or so they believe) is this idea that Cork have a soft Croke Park underbelly with them, but they will have to have a flyer of a start, or at least a very good one, to justify this particular piece of bullsh*t.
They must think we came down in the last shower, some fella called Murt from the kerryman newspaper saying that gooch and the soup kitchen tourer should be okay for the final. They are after believing all the crap about them being cute hoors
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 17, 2009 11:15:05 GMT
Great stuff altogether.
There almost as nervous as Austinstacksabu.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 17, 2009 11:18:11 GMT
The forum is a bit quiet this morning so i said id have a gander at the cork forum and duly signed up with my shiny new username 06KY36. I have read 2 pages and have to say i cant read anymore - i have however gathered a few lines for everyone's benefit just in case you werent going to do enough roaring and shouting on sunday already this should help get you going. Title - donaghys interview ( the final is corks to loose ) He went on about Kerry being underdogs ( as a lot of them are at this stage). Yeah, massive underdogs indeed, with Cork evens and Kerry 11/10. I can only assume that Kerry folk persist with this kind of raiméis as another form of ego-massage ( ah jaysus, aren't we the cute hoors altogether) , and it might be great bullsh*t to feed the Dubs and the Dublin media with, but have they ever stopped to think how many times it has made a difference with Cork. The square root of f**k all times I would think, but shur we'll let them away with it if it makes them feel good about themselves. Title - "Some things are best left unsaid", I think that strategy is in place already,there's very little noise coming out of Cork camp compared to the endless sh*te and psychological warfare coming out of Kerry. Title - Kerry Team Early Thursday morning and Kerry haven't named their team yet from ny search of all the news websites. This is the county that values tradition and naming yr team early, as it will appear on the Sunday. Kerry Tactics they will have to try something to unsettle Cork early on, be that in the personnel they field or the tactics they employ ( "Tactics" of course can be read euphemistically in a team with personnel such as Darragh, Galvin et al on board) Kerry's biggest trump card ( or so they believe) is this idea that Cork have a soft Croke Park underbelly with them, but they will have to have a flyer of a start, or at least a very good one, to justify this particular piece of bullsh*t. They must think we came down in the last shower, some fella called Murt from the kerryman newspaper saying that gooch and the soup kitchen tourer should be okay for the final. They are after believing all the crap about them being cute hoors Touchie,sounds like their cracking up ;D
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Post by Derek on Sept 17, 2009 11:21:25 GMT
Whats even more surprising is some of them are calling for derek kavanagh to start if carey is ruled out?
Surely thats a wind up?
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Post by fivenarow on Sept 17, 2009 11:45:13 GMT
Whats even more surprising is some of them are calling for derek kavanagh to start if carey is ruled out? Surely thats a wind up? I hope he does I think Kerry @ 11/10 is a great bet - if you double the Armagh minors with them @8/13 you'd be getting over 2/1 on the double
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Post by Johnnyb on Sept 17, 2009 12:39:23 GMT
I used to look at that site before - buts its really more of an anti-Kerry site than a pro Cork site, if you know what I mean. Most posters are prone to fits of self importance only Cork people can manage.
Waste of URL space...
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Post by Derek on Sept 17, 2009 13:02:44 GMT
I used to look at that site before - buts its really more of an anti-Kerry site than a pro Cork site, if you know what I mean. Most posters are prone to fits of self importance only Cork people can manage. Waste of URL space... Im sorry lads and lassies but my cover has been blown by the fraud squad on the cork site ;D - I recieved a PM from the head of their paranoia squad to retreat back to where i came from Fecking hillarious post then discussing same on the site Saw that. I think they take grave offence that we don't buy into their bullsh*t , and the suggestion that the "cute hoor" tag they love to put on themselves is another load of bollix is like waving a copy of the Satanic Verses in front of an Iranian mullah, it is an article of faith with them. FFS, who gives a sh*t what some chippy Kerryman who can't compose a post himself on their forum thinks, we're not giving away any team secrets or expressing the views of members of the Cork set up. Shur, we'll go like the Kerry forum, and we'll plámás them away instead of just them plámásing themselves. We'll give them all the grovelling sh*tetalk they are so used to from a fawning national media , tell them their all cute out ( a genetic gift to all Kerry folk of course) ,that Kerry are the team of the decade , and debate on which Kerry players don't make the ( all Kerry of course) GAA 125th team. There will be a good few counsulling sessions needed down leeside - these lads arent right in the head at all!!!
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Post by Johnnyb on Sept 17, 2009 13:14:52 GMT
I used to look at that site before - buts its really more of an anti-Kerry site than a pro Cork site, if you know what I mean. Most posters are prone to fits of self importance only Cork people can manage. Waste of URL space... Im sorry lads and lassies but my cover has been blown by the fraud squad on the cork site ;D - I recieved a PM from the head of their paranoia squad to retreat back to where i came from Fecking hillarious post then discussing same on the site Saw that. I think they take grave offence that we don't buy into their bullsh*t , and the suggestion that the "cute hoor" tag they love to put on themselves is another load of bollix is like waving a copy of the Satanic Verses in front of an Iranian mullah, it is an article of faith with them. FFS, who gives a sh*t what some chippy Kerryman who can't compose a post himself on their forum thinks, we're not giving away any team secrets or expressing the views of members of the Cork set up. Shur, we'll go like the Kerry forum, and we'll plámás them away instead of just them plámásing themselves. We'll give them all the grovelling sh*tetalk they are so used to from a fawning national media , tell them their all cute out ( a genetic gift to all Kerry folk of course) ,that Kerry are the team of the decade , and debate on which Kerry players don't make the ( all Kerry of course) GAA 125th team. There will be a good few counsulling sessions needed down leeside - these lads arent right in the head at all!!! Thats hilarious. I think the lot of them are slighly discomoded by the fact that the footballers are the only flag bearers they've had in years. This is furhter compounded by Kilkenny sh**ing all over their hurling heritage. I feel sympathy for them. Would they accept my sympathy?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 13:21:19 GMT
I used to look at that site before - buts its really more of an anti-Kerry site than a pro Cork site, if you know what I mean. Most posters are prone to fits of self importance only Cork people can manage. Waste of URL space... Your spot on johnnyb. I signed up to see what they were dicussing but soon backed off. It's a poor forum, full of embittered posters trying to mask their inferiority complex by hyping themsleves up and insulting us. If your looking for a balanced and insightful discussion on football matters, best stick to our forum
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 17, 2009 13:22:17 GMT
Johnny, I think they'd accept it like they accept their hurling managers!
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Post by Johnnyb on Sept 17, 2009 13:26:12 GMT
Johnny, I think they'd accept it like they accept their hurling managers! Ha ha..indeed.
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 17, 2009 13:27:03 GMT
The following quote just about sums up that forum:
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Post by Johnnyb on Sept 17, 2009 13:27:30 GMT
I used to look at that site before - buts its really more of an anti-Kerry site than a pro Cork site, if you know what I mean. Most posters are prone to fits of self importance only Cork people can manage. Waste of URL space... Your spot on johnnyb. I signed up to see what they were dicussing but soon backed off. It's a poor forum, full of embittered posters trying to mask their inferiority complex by hyping themsleves up and insulting us. If your looking for a balanced and insightful discussion on football matters, best stick to our forum Fact
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Post by seaniebo on Sept 17, 2009 14:12:52 GMT
Confidence breeds success - I believe Cork are going up expecting to win but deep in the backs of their minds will be the humiliations handed out to them down the years in Croker by the Kingdom - That's why I think we will be brimming with confidence. Most outsiders (I'm working in Tipp) believe that Cork will win - I'd have snapped your hand off at the beginning of the year if I was told we had the Rebels in the final. We will not be afraid one bit of this Cork team. A good start however is essential however and sow the seeds of doubt as quickly as possible into their minds. Momentum at the start and I really believe we will have a look at the gap by half time.
The amount of nervousness displayed by some in here is to be expected but nonetheless I must see the pre All Ireland nerves have yet to kick in - I remember feeling the same in 2007 - I expected a win and this time round is no different - too much pride class and skill for the Kingdom to lose out to these upstarts.
Alot made about the ref as well but sure won't he be the same ref for both teams. I think thats nit picking now at this stage and I doubt very much he will be in for too much discussion post match - I expect him to do a fine job. Alot of it is down to how the players carry themselves as well to make his job easier.
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Post by Corner Back on Sept 17, 2009 16:52:16 GMT
Just a thought.
Since Counihan has taken over Cork they have met kerry 5 times, Results as follows:
Cork 2 wins Kerry 1 win Draw X 2
20% success rate
Of those 5 games how many have Dara O'Se and Paul Galvin played in??
I make it
Dara 3.5 Galvin 1.5 open to correction?
They were the men that were badly missed when Corke began their come back in the semi final replay last year
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 17, 2009 17:29:36 GMT
Sunday, 24 August 2008
A 72nd-minute penalty goal from John Hayes ensured Cork and Kerry must meet again for a replay following a pulsating All-Ireland semi-final at Croke Park.
Despite Cork scoring a 14th-minute goal from Daniel Goulding, Kerry held a deserved 1-05 to 1-04 interval lead, after Kieran Donaghy immediately responded with a goal for the Kingdom.
The second half began badly for Kerry when Darragh Ó Sé received a straight red card in the 37th minute - having previously seen red against the Rebels in the Munster decider.
However, Kerry failed to be effected by their numerical disadvantage with points from Donnacha Walsh and Bryan Sheehan stretching the Kingdom's lead to four points by the 46th minute.
If Pat O'Shea's charges were failing to crumble despite being a man down, Cork also played some of their best football following the 50th minute dismissal of Donnacha O'Connor.
Late goals from substitute James Masters and Hayes' penalty strike ensured Cork equalised and despite a late Kerry chance, this tailed wide as the sides shared the spoils at the finish.
Cork footballers don't make anything easy on their loyal followers, but the Cork contingent and the neutrals among the 35,137 in attendance at GAA Headquarters couldn't have but been impressed by the charismatic display by the Rebels, who really earned a replay the hard way in this dogged encounter.
Kerry's hunger seemed greater for three quarters of this game, with the Kingdom eager to make amends for a dismal second half showing against Cork in the Munster final, which ultimately earned the Rebels their 35th provincial crown.
A glimmer of this hunger was shown by an eager Kerry attack in the 15th minute, when the Kingdom snuffed out a goal of their own after Colm Cooper linked with Kieran Donaghy for the latter to punch to the net, an immediate response to a Rebels goal from the previous attack.
Daniel Goulding's goal for Cork was just as well executed as Donaghy's strike, but the Tralee man's effort propelled Kerry into a one-point lead and gave his side the momentum to continue driving into the Cork defence.
O'Shea's charges tagged on some magnificent points as scores from Donaghy and Tommy Walsh helped to build up a 1-04 to 1-01 lead as the game entered the second quarter.
But Cork weren't to throw in the towel just yet as they staged a rally before the interval with scores from Donnacha O'Connor and Nicholas Murphy helping to cut the gap to the minimum at the interval, although a keen Kerry attack should have had the Kingdom in front at the break, with Tommy Walsh fluffing a chance wide in injury-time.
Kerry's strength and character again came to the fore in the second half with full-back Tom O'Sullivan well positioned to exert a block on a Goulding scoring opportunity, while at the opposite end, Cooper sent a point between the posts.
Then came the first red card of the afternoon from the pocket of referee Joe McQuillan, as Kerry midfielder Darragh Ó Sé was punished for an off-the-ball punch on Pearse O'Neill.
Nonetheless, Kerry motored on to hold a 1-12 to 1-05 lead with six minutes remaining after half-back Tomás Ó Sé powered forward following a Killian Young pass, to stick Ó Sé through to score from 21 metres out.
Some Cork fans may have headed for the exits at that stage, but they weren't the clever ones as their footballers had the last laugh on the pitch, overcoming a seven point deficit to ensure a replay next weekend.
Firstly, John Miskella got the Rebels off the mark in the 66th minute for his side's first score in over 20 minutes, before Hayes sent over a point, and then followed a goal fest which stunned Kerry and helped the Rebels maintain a place in the 2008 All-Ireland SFC.
James Masters, a 44th-minute substitute, ensured he made his mark on the stroke of injury-time when he cut the gap to three points, with his punched effort from the edge of the square, and then John Hayes' penalty kick slotted calmly to the right of Kerry goalkeeper Diarmuid Murphy.
Kerry not out - Cork's chance at a first All-Ireland SFC title since 1990 rekindled, another Munster derby to whet the appetite next weekend.
This game was only the third meeting of the sides this decade to end in a draw and with the sides set for an 18th meeting in ten years next weekend, it shows that the Cork-Kerry pairing is indeed one of the greatest rivalries in the GAA.
Cork: A Quirke; D Duggan, D Kavanagh, A Lynch; J Miskella (0-01), G Spillane, K O'Connor; P O'Neill, A O'Connor; D O'Connor (0-04, 2f), G Canty, S O'Brien; D Goulding (1-00), M Cussen, J Hayes (1-01, 1f 1-0 pen).
Substitutes: N Murphy (0-01) for A O'Connor (21); J Masters (1-00) for Goulding (44); K McMahon for S O'Brien (47); N O'Leary for K O'Connor (57); M Shields for Spillane (59).
Kerry: D Murphy; M Ó Sé, T O'Sullivan, T Griffin; T Ó Sé (0-01), A O'Mahony, K Young; D Ó Sé, S Scanlon; B Sheehan (0-04, 3f 1 45), C Cooper (0-03, 2f), D Walsh; Declan O'Sullivan, K Donaghy (1-01), T Walsh (0-02).
Substitutes: E Brosnan (0-01) for D Walsh (HT); Darren O'Sullivan (0-01) for T Walsh (56); S O'Sullivan for Declan O'Sullivan (68).
Referee: Joe McQuillan (Cavan).
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 17, 2009 17:32:12 GMT
The Cork team of 2009 is 5 points a better team that the 2008 version.
Sean O Brien wasnt up to standard.
Hayes was windy.
Spilane was slow.
All repacements are much better.
But Kerry are better too.
A lot better in the crucial half forward line.
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Post by kingdomkerry on Sept 17, 2009 19:04:02 GMT
kerry lost to cork in the munster final replay. Since then we have a new full back, darragh back in midfield, a new centre forward and a new full forward. Surely this has given us back the edge over them
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Post by thepope on Sept 17, 2009 19:27:53 GMT
KERRY TEAM V CORK IN ALL IRELAND FINAL 2009
Thursday, 17 September 2009
(1) Diarmuid Murphy (Dingle) (2) Marc Ó Sé (An Ghaeltacht) (3) Tommy Griffin (Dingle) (4) Tom O’Sullivan (Rathmore) (5) Tomás Ó Sé (An Ghaeltacht) (6) Mike McCarthy (Kilcummin) (7) Killian Young (Renard) (8) Darragh Ó Sé (An Ghaeltacht) (9) Seamus Scanlon (Currow) (10) Paul Galvin (Finuge) (11) Declan O’Sullivan (Piarsaigh Na Dromada ) (12) Tadhg Kennelly (Listowel Emmett’s) (13) Colm Cooper (Dr. Crokes) (14) Tommy Walsh (Kerins O'Rahilly) (15) Darran O'Sullivan (Glenbeigh/Glencar) (Captain) Subs: Ger Reidy (Castleisland Desmonds) Aidan O’Mahony (Rathmore) Donnacha Walsh (Cromane) Bryan Sheehan (St. Mary's) Micheál Quirke (Kerins O'Rahillys) Paul O’Connor (Kenmare) Padraig Reidy (Scartaglin) David Moran (Kerins O’Rahilly’s) Anthony Maher (Duagh) Seán O’Sullivan (Cromane) Daniel Bohan (Austin Stacks) Kieran Donaghy (Austin Stacks) Aidan O’Shea (Glenbeigh/Glencar) Maurice Corridan (Finuge)) Barry John Walsh Barra Seán Breathnach (Kerins O’Rahillys) Kieran Quirke (Duagh) Rónán Ó Flatharta (An Ghaeltacht) Bainsteoir: Jack O’Connor (Piarsaigh Na Dromada) Traenálaí: Alan O’Sullivan (Kerins O’Rahilly’s) Roghnóirí: Ger O’Keeffe (Austin Stacks) Eamon Fitzmaurice (Finuge)
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Post by thepope on Sept 17, 2009 19:30:23 GMT
probably a bit surprised that Tommy Walsh is back in at FF, but maybe Declan will go into 14 with Darren going to wing-forward??
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Post by sambo on Sept 17, 2009 19:33:10 GMT
Hope its not back to route one. Lump it in to big man and see what happens.... Class half forward line though. Strong back division and ,at the risk of repeating myself, big question over midfield. Can see star on early at midfield if Cork are lording it there, which I suspect they will.
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Post by clarinman on Sept 17, 2009 19:55:04 GMT
Happy to see Declan picked at No. 11. Was very quite both days in June when playing full-forward. On both days our good 15 minute spell coincided with Declan moving to centre half forward. I presume Miscella will mark Declan with Canty on Kennelly.
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Post by kerryscoob on Sept 17, 2009 19:56:23 GMT
That full forward line has a lot to prove to Cork since the replay
Colm cleaned out by Lynch, Walsh injured and Shields ran riot, did Darren start the replay??
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Post by clarinman on Sept 17, 2009 20:00:30 GMT
Hope its not back to route one. Lump it in to big man and see what happens.... Class half forward line though. Strong back division and ,at the risk of repeating myself, big question over midfield. Can see star on early at midfield if Cork are lording it there, which I suspect they will. I think we'll see alot of short Kerry kickouts the next day, particularly to Mike Mac. Worked very well against Dublin. In Kennelly we have a 3rd option for any long kickouts. On the Cork kickouts we just need to ensure that the ball breaks so that Tomas and Galvin can do their business. Tomas picked up an incredible 9 breaks against Meath.
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Post by sullyschoice on Sept 17, 2009 20:17:24 GMT
Will the 15 named be the 15 that start?
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Post by nicoshea on Sept 17, 2009 20:20:37 GMT
I would imagine so unless there was an injury....Jack generally doesnt change it (does he)
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Post by Tadhgeen on Sept 17, 2009 20:23:23 GMT
Happy enough with that starting 15. Glad to see Declan on the forty.
Notice that Bryan has moved up the sub positions.
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