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Post by mozzy on Sept 12, 2009 19:25:17 GMT
As Obama said this morning in his inspirational speech on Healthcare reform..
"Fire it Up.... Are you ready to go??? Fire it Up..."
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 12, 2009 20:06:08 GMT
Good piece alright from Tom with Darragh.
Its nice to be able to read a piece about kerry football and kerry that isn't dripping off the end of an antagonists knife.
Darragh pretty much sums up the question about Tyrone,any connaisseur of kerry football with a deep appreciation for the green and gold will know where Darragh is coming from.
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Post by mollydublin on Sept 12, 2009 20:31:05 GMT
any songs out for kerry team
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Post by glengael on Sept 12, 2009 21:07:38 GMT
Yes Kerrygold, great piece as one would expect from Tom. A lot to digest from Darragh, a bit more than the usual I have to say, a lot of interesting points indeed.
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Post by diehard on Sept 12, 2009 21:09:17 GMT
The man that will win this all ireland for the kingdom is no 6 Mike Mac. If he can quell P O Neill and turn defense into attack that will be that.
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Post by Corner Back on Sept 13, 2009 13:57:33 GMT
Here are the team I think will line out and who will win the individual battles. All may not agree with them but it is my opinion...
Marc O Se V D. O'Connor Verdict Marc T. Griffin V C. ONeill Verdict ONeill T. O'Sullivan V Goulding Verdict T. O'Sullivan Tomas V Kerrigan Verdict Even M. Mc V P. O'Neill Verdict O'Neill Killian V P. Kelly Verdict Kelly Dara V Murphy Verdict Dara (for 50mins) Scanlon V O'Connor Verdict Even Galvin V O'Leary Verdict Galvin (in the football that is!) Tadhg V Canty Verdict Even Donnacha V Miskella Verdict Miskella Gooch V Lynch Verdict Even Declan V E. Cadogan Verdict Declan T. Walsh V M. Sheilds Verdict Sheilds.
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Post by mozzy on Sept 13, 2009 17:58:13 GMT
It will be interesting to see how Cooper comes into this game ... I am sure that he has not been a happy since his last outing with Lynch.... and I agree Mike Mc is a huge factor in this game but every battle is key - this has to be a huge game from everyone... no one player will win this
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Sept 13, 2009 18:12:52 GMT
I think if tommy walsh starts they will look to play him as a corner forward and maybe gooch at full. That will give cork the dilemma of whether or not to move shields away from the edge of the square just to mark tommy. If they do put colm in full forward where he might be able to exploit the extra space on both sides better. And darren in the other corner. Darren can move in and out with declan etc.
If donnacha is dropped. Kennelly should be at centre forward. He is more than a match for Canty physically and should have the fitness edge. He should drag canty out of postion. if canty follows kennelly let declan explot the space down the central channel.
If canty drops deep it lets declan or kennelly have the run of the half forward line
That said i wouldnt be surprised to see the team against meath that started start
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Post by chrism on Sept 13, 2009 18:30:12 GMT
Anthony Lynch played full back in the Cork v Tyrone match for a while anyway as he marked Stephen O Neill with shields on the corner on Mulligan. I do not think Eoin cadogan will be starting. Tyrone tried to bring Canty out of position. Would say easier said than done.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2009 19:21:26 GMT
Shields was corner back in 2007 so I doubt he would be that uncomfortable in the corner against Tommy. If Donncha starts on Miskella, my fear is that Donncha will drop too deep which would play right into Miskella's hands. Miskella needs to be kept honest from a defensive viewpoint which is why I think Darren could play wing forward.
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Post by chrism on Sept 13, 2009 20:27:28 GMT
Shields is a tough nut to crack.Even when players get 50/50 ball from him they findit hard to get around him and usually just pass back. Think Cork have more of a fear of Donaghy than Tommy Walsh.
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Post by poulgorm on Sept 13, 2009 20:54:16 GMT
Thanks for publishing all your possible plans / options...will come in handy...always good to know in advance...
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 13, 2009 20:58:02 GMT
Thanks for publishing all your possible plans / options...will come in handy...always good to know in advance... You should see what Jack has really being doing behind closed doors.....
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Post by kerryscoob on Sept 13, 2009 22:07:18 GMT
Tohill- Kerry McStay- Cork Davis- Cork
Tohill has reservations on Corks inside forward line, and had Kerry as his team since the start of the year. McStay Cork because Kerry have played only once this year against the Dubs.
Davis very tight game but Cork to come out in front.
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Post by diehard on Sept 13, 2009 22:18:21 GMT
My team: DM TOS TG MOS TOS MM KY DOS SS PG TK DW DOS DOS CC
Similar to the Dublin game just Tadgh for Tommy Walsh. I Dont think Tommy should be played on the wing I think he lacks work rate. So he goes into the corner or nowhere at all. However I think Darren falls ito this category aswell. So the decision is Tommy or Darren its inescapable. I would go for Darren. And if the fast running game isn't working we have options on the bench. I believe Mcstays point about not have anyone for 45s is a valid one. I hope it doesn't prove problamatic.
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Post by sullyschoice on Sept 13, 2009 22:39:36 GMT
Its not just valid, it is crucial
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 14, 2009 1:00:08 GMT
Just back from the Iveragh Peninsula,the horse set free in the front paddock with a bucket of oats for her attention to detail on the long gallop.
Glenbeigh was goose pimple enducing country this evening at 9pm.The lads had a hoist out and had kerry flags hanging from every pole from the pitch into the village centre with reems of green and gold bounting across the street at most poles.The village looked awesome,it stood the hairs on the back of the neck.
kerry looked at her majestic best this weekend with the Canarian type weather bringing out the best in her.Clear blue skies,deep blue oceans,outrageous red sunsets and mountain peeks standing proud.It was almost like the the kingdom was doing a spot of spring cleaning in anticipation of a respected family member due a visit home from foreign lands.
Fingers crossed we'll be rocking this time next week,someone here mentioned trust and belief in the build up to the Dublin game.
Glenbeigh certainly believes if the house decorating is anything to go by tonight,its certainly got the juices flowing here anyway.Croker on all-ireland final day,its where we'd want to be.
All-Ireland final week,rock on ..............................
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 14, 2009 6:58:05 GMT
Paidi sets the scene pretty well here too......
Sunday September 13 2009
T HERE is a wealth of history and lore behind the All-Ireland football final that gives the occasion an aura of magic unique even in the ongoing drama that is the world of sport.
As a Kerryman, there are two dates on the calendar that matter most. One is the Munster final and the beating of Cork (sadly, Kerry didn't get to that final this year but maybe that is all to the good), and the other is the All-Ireland.
There is not a Kerry player next Sunday who will not feel the shades of the greatest players of the past resting supportively on his shoulders and urging him to do beyond his best.
My first All-Ireland final was 34 years ago, and I recall how the county board made a special arrangement for the train to stop at Templemore, where I was in the Garda training depot, and bring me on to Dublin for the match. But that was not for me. I wanted, unconsciously, to have a sense of destiny so I travelled back to West Kerry on the Thursday, and trained with the team on that evening.
Every house which has a member of the All-Ireland team under its roof has its own rituals, they follow certain routines, they say the rosary, they do everything possible to infuse the player with an almost mystical sense of purpose. My mother was a great believer in feeding you up in the belief that this made you stronger.
So when I went back to West Kerry in 1975 before the match, my mother on that Saturday morning fed me a huge breakfast of lamb's liver and sausages.
There were other things I liked to do to give myself that extra edge over others. There were certain routines that only I would follow, I thought, whether that meant vigorous walks on beaches or hills to give me that elusive edge. The main thing was that it was something that other people hadn't done.
It is one of the eternal mysteries in sport: time spent alone by great sportsmen is often the key to the difference between competence and brilliance.
Mick O'Connell endlessly practised his catching, kicking and jumping on Valentia Island; that most accurate of forwards, Tadghie Lyne from Killarney, spent hours in his father's garage kicking a football with both feet through a tyre hanging from the ceiling, and I remember reading how the greatest cricketer of them all, Don Bradman of Australia, used to practise hour upon hour in a shed behind his parents' home in the outback, hitting a golf ball against a boiler with a single stump. This is one of the secrets of genius in any sport, and it will not be discovered in group or squad training routines.
When I was younger, I was inspired by great players of West Kerry who had gone before me like Paddy Bawn Brosnan, Tom Long, Gega Connor, Mick Murphy, Bill Casey from Lispole and Bill Dillon from Dingle. Paddy Bawn used to tell me how the Roscommon captain, before the 1946 All- Ireland, boasted that his team would win the match. Paddy Bawn used to quote with relish: "It's many the raging tide I took, and through the Blaskets foam my fishing smack I ran, today we'll beat Roscommon sweet, for horse or hound, or man.''
We West Kerry players used to be brought to Tralee in the 'Dingle car' driven by Stevie Kelleher. The Tralee lads ridiculed us as 'the fish aters' but they in turn were taunted by the affluent North Kerry farmers as 'the bread and tay boys'. Tralee players, of course, had their own rich history to inspire them, through the feats of great players like Roundy and Purty Landers, Joe Barrett, John Joe Sheehy, John Dowling, Paudie Sheehy and many others.
Memories come flooding back to me now of that unforgettable day in 1975, of leaving the hotel in Malahide and, on the way into Croke Park, collecting a man off the roadside wearing a green and gold cap who, when he came on board the bus, sang The Boys from Barr na Sraide in a beautiful tenor voice.
It's not original to say that it's all in the mind. The excitement and razzamatazz of All-Ireland final day, when sometimes there is a thing bordering on hysteria in the air, must be resisted by the player who has to keep a cool presence of mind. If he loses that composure, he will fail on the field of play in the pressure cooker of the occasion.
In my opinion, Kipling put it best:
'If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too.'
And Kipling went on:
'If you can dream, and not make dreams your master;
If you can think, and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same.'
His concluding lines go to the heart of the meaning of it all, and how each man, knowing himself truly, can make an honest measurement of what he is made of. If you can make it too that standard, Kipling says: 'Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, and -- which is more -- you'll be a Man, my son!'
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Post by seamus on Sept 14, 2009 11:09:46 GMT
Just back from the Iveragh Peninsula,the horse set free in the front paddock with a bucket of oats for her attention to detail on the long gallop. Glenbeigh was goose pimple enducing country this evening at 9pm.The lads had a hoist out and had kerry flags hanging from every pole from the pitch into the village centre with reems of green and gold bounting across the street at most poles.The village looked awesome,it stood the hairs on the back of the neck. kerry looked at her majestic best this weekend with the Canarian type weather bringing out the best in her.Clear blue skies,deep blue oceans,outrageous red sunsets and mountain peeks standing proud.It was almost like the the kingdom was doing a spot of spring cleaning in anticipation of a respected family member due a visit home from foreign lands. Fingers crossed we'll be rocking this time next week,someone here mentioned trust and belief in the build up to the Dublin game. Glenbeigh certainly believes if the house decorating is anything to go by tonight,its certainly got the juices flowing here anyway.Croker on all-ireland final day,its where we'd want to be. All-Ireland final week,rock on .............................. Fantastic post kerrygold. You continually remind those of us living in Kerry on a permanent basis how lucky we are. The line about spring cleaning is like something Con Houlihan would come up with. i am out with the hoist myself decorating our village tonight. As the wise old man who helps me says every year 'Tis aisy to put them up. Taking them down the week after if we lose is the problem!'
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Post by Laoch na hImeartha on Sept 14, 2009 11:14:40 GMT
Two good omens for a Kerry win: The Under 21 hurlers won the All Ireland- correct me if I'm wrong but they won is aswell in 1997? The Weather- Kerry played bad when the weather was bad- remember Longford? Weather was good for the Dublin game. Lets hope the Canarian weather holds out!
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 14, 2009 11:58:06 GMT
Lets hope the Canarian weather holds out! Is that where the Indians who gave us the good weather come from? Will be mildly ignoring every rule in the apartment block I live in tonight when the Kerry flag goes out for the week.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 14, 2009 12:35:55 GMT
Just back from the Iveragh Peninsula,the horse set free in the front paddock with a bucket of oats for her attention to detail on the long gallop. Glenbeigh was goose pimple enducing country this evening at 9pm.The lads had a hoist out and had kerry flags hanging from every pole from the pitch into the village centre with reems of green and gold bounting across the street at most poles.The village looked awesome,it stood the hairs on the back of the neck. kerry looked at her majestic best this weekend with the Canarian type weather bringing out the best in her.Clear blue skies,deep blue oceans,outrageous red sunsets and mountain peeks standing proud.It was almost like the the kingdom was doing a spot of spring cleaning in anticipation of a respected family member due a visit home from foreign lands. Fingers crossed we'll be rocking this time next week,someone here mentioned trust and belief in the build up to the Dublin game. Glenbeigh certainly believes if the house decorating is anything to go by tonight,its certainly got the juices flowing here anyway.Croker on all-ireland final day,its where we'd want to be. All-Ireland final week,rock on .............................. Fantastic post kerrygold. You continually remind those of us living in Kerry on a permanent basis how lucky we are. The line about spring cleaning is like something Con Houlihan would come up with. i am out with the hoist myself decorating our village tonight. As the wise old man who helps me says every year 'Tis aisy to put them up. Taking them down the week after if we lose is the problem!' All- Ireland final week is all about connecting with the footballing soul of kerry football,inhaling the energy from the legacy of those who have gone before us. Surely winning All- Irelands is as much spiritual as anything else,caressing the footballing Gods,coaxing a path from them towards the direction of total footballing performance on the day. All - Ireland Final week,slipping into the zone for those on the field and for those in the stands and for those at home minding and looking out for the parish.
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Post by seamus on Sept 14, 2009 14:18:47 GMT
Ah Jaysus Kerrygold, One sunny weekend in South Kerry and you are waxing like a Listowel man!
I agree with you though. Kerry is a magical place to be at the moment. Football is the only topic of conversation. Nothing else is getting a look in. Even the normal weather openers are stopped in their tracks with 'whats the forecast for Sunday? We need a dry ball'.
I bumped into a couple of players yesterday. Within 30 seconds they were swamped with people chatting to them. I am convinced that the 6 finals in a row and the big day experience will stand to us. Our lads are enjoying the build up and the banter and as Kerrygold says they are connecting with the soul of Kerry football this week.
I would not swap Kerry for anywhere in the world this week.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 14, 2009 14:27:58 GMT
Had the pleasure of being at home the week before the All Ireland in 2006.......have been in Dublin or away for every other build up from 1997 onwards.
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Post by Johnnyb on Sept 14, 2009 14:41:15 GMT
More sun than clouds. Mild. 63°F 52°F 7 mph / NE 74% 63°F Minimal 0%
Thats whats in store for Sunday lads. bit of drizzle in store for Saturday - but its looking good otherwise.
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Post by noelandy on Sept 14, 2009 14:46:00 GMT
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Post by mozzy on Sept 14, 2009 14:51:03 GMT
I was just about to write noelandy how Kerrygold has made me fierce homesick with his wonderful post... 6000 miles away and I got a clear picture of the village/beach I spent weekends at - summer after summer (rain or shine) ... I too have the colors flying and wearing the new shirt I bought when home this summer as much as possible..
Ciarrai Abu gach nomeid, gach la agus gach blianta....
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 14, 2009 15:23:30 GMT
I think I'm going to cry....
;D
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Post by fivenarow on Sept 14, 2009 15:47:36 GMT
I think I'm going to cry.... ;D Very moving alright , but dont coz once the water starts falling it doesnt stop & the sun has only just come out ;D ;D
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 14, 2009 16:48:29 GMT
I was onto the brother about the build up.
Nothing like it has been seen for years.
Hay is being made in the indian summer.
Everyone has just one topic in their mind.
The match.
The big question....... Will Ardfert beat Kilmoyley.
Seriously......!!
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