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Post by Tadhgeen on Sept 9, 2009 21:37:21 GMT
This Colm Cooper injury is a big worry. It is rumoured that the injury is a groin strain rather than hip based. Apparently, these are notoriously slow to resolve. I am sure that the free taking does not help this type of injury. If Colm is unable to play it certainly sets the cat among the pigeons as regards the free taking. That sounds like a condition called 'Gilmore's groin' which ultimately requires surgery. Physio and rest will allow the player to continue playing for a while but this is only a stop gap measure as the condition worsens and surgery is required.
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Post by mickthebridges on Sept 10, 2009 0:19:25 GMT
Has anyone seen how Colm Cooper and Kieran Donaghy are going in training? Are they hitting and getting hit? Can someone please confirm or deny the belief that neither are match fit and are only doing noncontact training. An eye witness account would be great. Well I slipped in under the wire tonight and was lucky that Jack didn't see me. The lads are all flying and Tommy gave Tom the runaround until he went over on his ankle. There in't a hope in puck that Cork will beat this Kerry team. Id go so far a to say that these lads are ready to start another great run of Sams and dont write off a five in a row. They'll be mad anxious to match the Cats 4 in a row last weekend . I'm going up Friday in case I miss anything.
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Post by mozzy on Sept 10, 2009 0:45:24 GMT
So let's assume Cooper is out or plays a bit part - who replaces him? Paul O Connor? Also if Darragh tires - do we bring on Maher? Do Moran or Maher have any bit to play?
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Post by chieftain on Sept 10, 2009 6:22:47 GMT
this behind closed doors thing is a joke. it smells of fear and insecurity. it doesnnt make a blind bit of difference to the outcome of the game, Cork camp is open and confident. what have we to fear?
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Post by tottenham on Sept 10, 2009 7:26:53 GMT
this behind closed doors thing is a joke. it smells of fear and insecurity. it doesnnt make a blind bit of difference to the outcome of the game, Cork camp is open and confident. what have we to fear? Ridiculous comment chiefain: Kerry are training behind closed doors for a reason. They need to devise a way to stop cork from beating them in 10 days time. Cork are the form team and what ever way kerry play to beat them the kerry management want to work on it behind closed doors. I think it is the right way. Look at last year, Tyrone knew exactly what we were going to do and had 4 weeks to plan on how to stop us. Who is to say that cork would not send up someone to watch kerry training and blow our plan/tactics out of the water come all ireland final day.Or people like us posting the tactics and match ups here on this forum after we being in to watch a training session Not only this but it gives the players a bit of focus and privacy and to get their heads around the task in hand and for jack to have the players undevided attention at training etc... And it does not smell of fear...anything but
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 10, 2009 7:38:43 GMT
kerry are well within their rights to train behind closed doors as their taking on the raging red hot favourites to win the all-ireland.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 10, 2009 10:49:07 GMT
Two thoughts as I woke up this morning (read the Kerryman article about Gooch online before going to bed).
1) Yerra
2) Am beginning to grow quietly confident.....
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 10, 2009 10:54:28 GMT
Two thoughts as I woke up this morning (read the Kerryman article about Gooch online before going to bed). Didn't your mammy ever tell you not to read scary stories before bed?
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Post by Laoch na hImeartha on Sept 10, 2009 11:04:03 GMT
I see it all in my mind's eye: Paul O'Connor to start, plays a blinder, five mins into the second half look down at the sideline whos coming on? Gooch and Star! They come on and score 2-6 between them and we beat the Rebels by 6 points! I'm telling ye!
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 10, 2009 13:45:23 GMT
Two thoughts as I woke up this morning (read the Kerryman article about Gooch online before going to bed). Didn't your mammy ever tell you not to read scary stories before bed? That'd be don't eat cheese, so I put down Ger Loughnane's autobiography.
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Post by seamus on Sept 10, 2009 15:47:45 GMT
Two thoughts as I woke up this morning (read the Kerryman article about Gooch online before going to bed). 1) Yerra 2) Am beginning to grow quietly confident..... Do you mean Yerra as in 'The Kingdom of Yerra' as Tom Humphries calls the Kerry Press day before the All Ireland! I can see the papers already 'Yerra, Cork are the form team all year' 'Yerra, we will have a go off them' 'Yerra, its all on the day'
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 10, 2009 17:26:38 GMT
Two thoughts as I woke up this morning (read the Kerryman article about Gooch online before going to bed). 1) Yerra 2) Am beginning to grow quietly confident.....Now I am beiginning to get really worried ;D
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Post by athletics on Sept 10, 2009 18:40:47 GMT
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I am getting worried now about gooch? Will he be ok to start?
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Post by chrism on Sept 10, 2009 18:48:35 GMT
He will be a huge loss if he can't start . However He was not right the last day. I could actually see he wasn't right in the parade before the match.
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Post by dabomber on Sept 10, 2009 19:05:56 GMT
i think this is worth a watch
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Post by chieftain on Sept 11, 2009 6:20:58 GMT
this behind closed doors thing is a joke. it smells of fear and insecurity. it doesnnt make a blind bit of difference to the outcome of the game, Cork camp is open and confident. what have we to fear? Ridiculous comment chiefain: Kerry are training behind closed doors for a reason. They need to devise a way to stop cork from beating them in 10 days time. Cork are the form team and what ever way kerry play to beat them the kerry management want to work on it behind closed doors. I think it is the right way. Look at last year, Tyrone knew exactly what we were going to do and had 4 weeks to plan on how to stop us. Who is to say that cork would not send up someone to watch kerry training and blow our plan/tactics out of the water come all ireland final day.Or people like us posting the tactics and match ups here on this forum after we being in to watch a training session Not only this but it gives the players a bit of focus and privacy and to get their heads around the task in hand and for jack to have the players undevided attention at training etc... And it does not smell of fear...anything but
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Post by chieftain on Sept 11, 2009 6:32:25 GMT
I think tactics are always over rated. Declan O Sullivan will start centre half. Tommy Walsh will go in full forward. Donaghy will play 20 minutes at midfield. Who cares it doesnt make a blind bit of difference. Its true unpreditability can be helpful in that keeps your opposite guessing but Cork will be hoping to repeat their Semi Final appearance which had nothing to do much with tactics. In 2005 Jack ( Ger O Keeffe ) started Brosnan at FF and it did not make a difference. The game will start like an explosion and it will be frenetic. On a separate note Kerry lost 1-1 from the throw in the all-ireland last year which arguably turned the game. They lost their throw-ins also against meath but Meath did not punish them its a small thing I know but it can set the tone if a score results from a lost throw-in. It would fuel a hungry cork team.
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Post by chrism on Sept 11, 2009 7:40:44 GMT
Heard on radio this morning that Gooch is doubtful for match.
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Post by Johnnyb on Sept 11, 2009 8:03:16 GMT
Heard on radio this morning that Gooch is doubtful for match. Yerra - pure curveball - Cork will now be wondering about the gooch as well as Star and Tommy.
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Post by chrism on Sept 11, 2009 8:50:12 GMT
Read on another forum that Cork had a fierce intense A v B game. The B team had the Kerry Jerseys on. A friend of mine was at Cork V Tyrone. He said you would have to be there to see it but he never saw so many Tyrone bodies lying on the ground in the 2nd half. TV did not do it justice.
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Post by tpo on Sept 11, 2009 10:00:29 GMT
Was at the match After half time Cork hit everything knowing they would not have a second player sent off They should have a least 4 yellow cards in the 10 minutes after half time
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Post by seamus on Sept 11, 2009 10:09:53 GMT
Read on another forum that Cork had a fierce intense A v B game. The B team had the Kerry Jerseys on. A friend of mine was at Cork V Tyrone. He said you would have to be there to see it but he never saw so many Tyrone bodies lying on the ground in the 2nd half. TV did not do it justice. This Cork team is the biggest team in the history of the GAA. They are giants, not men. Are they human at all? They are a totally different team to last year. (Even if it is nearly the same players...) They are playing football with an intensity that no team can possibly match (Well, apart from Limerick....) Their forwards are on fire and will destroy the Kerry backs (How many would you swap for the Kerry player in the same position?) The hype machine is getting carried away i am afraid. We are slipping into the match in the perfect position. Our lads will lap it all up and come out all guns blazing. If Cork beat us then they will earn it.
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Post by patinkerry on Sept 11, 2009 10:33:22 GMT
I was at the Cork v Tyrone match and Cork were everywhere, they were like a pack of wolves and Ryan McMenamin who started off well was isolated and tired looking in the 2nd half.
However, Kerry v Dublin was not a mirage, we have to keep the intensity and I believe we can do it!
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Post by peanuts on Sept 11, 2009 10:34:12 GMT
Was at the match After half time Cork hit everything knowing they would not have a second player sent off They should have a least 4 yellow cards in the 10 minutes after half time Spot on. They won't get away with the same challenges inthe final.
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 11, 2009 10:39:45 GMT
Read on another forum that Cork had a fierce intense A v B game. The B team had the Kerry Jerseys on. A friend of mine was at Cork V Tyrone. He said you would have to be there to see it but he never saw so many Tyrone bodies lying on the ground in the 2nd half. TV did not do it justice. This Cork team is the biggest team in the history of the GAA. They are giants, not men. Are they human at all? They are a totally different team to last year. (Even if it is nearly the same players...) They are playing football with an intensity that no team can possibly match (Well, apart from Limerick....) Their forwards are on fire and will destroy the Kerry backs (How many would you swap for the Kerry player in the same position?) The hype machine is getting carried away i am afraid. We are slipping into the match in the perfect position. Our lads will lap it all up and come out all guns blazing. If Cork beat us then they will earn it. My thoughts exactly Seamus.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 11, 2009 10:44:15 GMT
Its Corks to win,their the team making all the statements of intent this summer.
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Post by longball2 on Sept 11, 2009 10:44:44 GMT
In fairness Christy Cooney should just nip down the road from Youghal to Aghada and give Conor Counihan the trophy now. Kerry have no business going up for the match at all really Cork are that good.
They are all 8 foot tall all faster then Usain Bolt, have more stamina than John Treacy and stronger than Paul O'Connell.
If they insist that Kerry have to play we will have to take to the field with the aid of zimmer frames and stretchers.
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Post by ardfertnarrie on Sept 11, 2009 10:53:36 GMT
The more I think about it the more I think Tommy will start and possibly start in the corner:
Galvin, Kennelly, Darren Gooch, Declan, Tommy
Darren has the potential to put Miskella on the back foot and keep him honest. However, as good and tough as Darren is, is he cut out for the intensity of the middle third and is he capable of winning the breaks?
Tommy could play on the wing, but I don't think he is cut out to do the tracking back and is often clumsy in the tackle.
Donnacha would undoubtedly be disappointed but someone has to lose out unfortunately.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 11, 2009 10:58:11 GMT
I dont know,they might give Donnacha the first 20 minutes in the war zone first.He was hugely physical v Meath.
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Post by longball2 on Sept 11, 2009 11:16:48 GMT
I dont know,they might give Donnacha the first 20 minutes in the war zone first.He was hugely physical v Meath. Agreed I think they might start Donnacha. He does a lot of unseen work and he also seems to work better by starting than coming from the bench.
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