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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 10, 2006 15:58:18 GMT
As I suspected Dermot, MH has his own team and his own players and isn't willing to look at the wider picture yet.....suggest an Indian tonight to aid the hangover.
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Post by Dermot on Jul 10, 2006 16:15:50 GMT
As I suspected Dermot, MH has his own team and his own players and isn't willing to look at the wider picture yet.....suggest an Indian tonight to aid the hangover. I don't know any indians but there's this cowgirl just up the street... Oh, I see what you mean, Yep I might try one right enough.
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Post by BIGMAC on Jul 10, 2006 16:34:20 GMT
BigMac, you didn't see the Tribune by any chance yesterday did you? no i didnt stacks,any chance of some1 copy and pasting it?
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Post by BIGMAC on Jul 10, 2006 16:46:13 GMT
is this the piece ur on about stacks?
DONEGAL HAVE HAD THEIR CHANCES, ARMAGH WILL TAKE THEIRS TODAY ULSTER SFC FINAL ARMAGH v DONEGAL Croke Park, 2.15 Referee M Monahan (Kildare) Live, RTE Two, 1.45; BBC2, 1.55 Put Armagh in the Warwickshire under-14 girls B championship and it would probably take them a few replays before they won it out. But the thing is, they would win it out. Put them in Ulster and they tend to do the same.
They've been doing it for a while now and going for a threein-a-row in Ulster. . . well, it has been 45 years since Down last managed that and this is a more competitive Ulster. But today, it's not so much the craving for that Ulster title that will drive them on. We've said it before, but of all days it's now relevant.
This is the quickest way to an All Ireland and that is all this side wants.
Paddy McKeever's absence won't affect them all that much.
Firstly, they have quality in Martin O'Rourke to come in but more blatantly because there's enough of a threat in the forward line as it is. Take Oisin McConville. He will become the greatest marksman in the history of Ulster football in a few hours, needing just a single score to surpass Peter Canavan's record. Take Steven McDonnell who still owes us a big game, and likes the big stage. Take Ronan Clarke. Take Malachy Mackin. Take John McEntee.
The worry? Armagh are up against a side that would run the legs off a greyhound.
Donegal have been the fresh breeze through a cabinet of old air up north this season. But only now do we finally learn what we need to know about them. They can beat the good but can they beat the great?
They can do Ballybofey but can they do the big smoke? And can they, of all teams, manage to beat Armagh? For each of the last four seasons, they've had their chance and failed. On some occasions miserably, like the 2003 Ulster final. The score that day? 3-15 to 0-11. We hear a collective gulp from the northwest.
Don't worry folks, it won't be that bad this time, although the loss of Michael Doherty is a big blow. His pace could have tormented Enda McNulty, and although Adrian Sweeney is a fine replacement to have waiting in the wings, his style of play will suit the Armagh corner-back. Feel the pressure growing Messrs Hegarty and To y e ( right)? To their advantage, the vast expanses of Croke Park will suit them and Donegal but they are an infant team, susceptible to emotion.
Armagh? They are a machine, who don't know what emotion is. On such occasions, this matters.
How much the earlier rounds have taken from their tank, we'll see later in this year's championship, but not today.
Truth be told, Joe Kernan's side would probably prefer to lose it rather than draw it, but they won't do either.
Verdict Armagh by three
ARMAGH P Hearty; A Mallon, F Bellew, E McNulty; A Kernan, C McKeever, P Duffy; K McGeeney, P McGrane (c); M O'Rourke, J McEntee, M Mackin; S McDonnell, R Clarke, O McConville
DONEGAL P Durcan; K Lacey, P Campbell, N McGee; E McGee, B Monaghan, B Dunnion; N Gallagher, B Boyle; C Toye (c), M Hegarty, C Bonner; R Kavanagh, C Dunne, A Sweeney
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 10, 2006 17:07:06 GMT
Actually it was the interview with wee Oisin.....he was some dope to be answering all the "rumours", none of which I ever heard apart from the drinking the pub in Cavan dry one.....
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 11, 2006 15:56:17 GMT
how are you calling the offally dublin game rashers,there might not be much in it at the end.
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Post by BIGMAC on Jul 11, 2006 18:45:51 GMT
Actually it was the interview with wee Oisin.....he was some dope to be answering all the "rumours", none of which I ever heard apart from the drinking the pub in Cavan dry one..... all the roumours were in the public domain stacks esp the supposed fallout with the macTs over their sis,many in armagh blamed this on losing the 2003 final
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 12, 2006 10:56:22 GMT
congrats bigmac on armaghs 3 in a row in ulster and 6 out of the last eight ulsters,the crossmaglen boys have some collection of medals to look back over in time to come.Yere chucking along nicely and are in a good position especially with the form in munster.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 12, 2006 11:08:47 GMT
its amazing how keiran donaghy gets an automatic suspention for a munsters final for getting sent off twice for two yellow cards which dont carry an automatic match ban individually and mattie forde can contribute handsomely to putting monaghan out of the championship 7 days after walking on a players head.it seems the donegal fullback cambell has been called up 4 or 5 weeks after an incident in the ulster semi in the week after playing in an ulster finals,its seems to cover their asses for calling up forde on vidio evidence,laughable farce or what.
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Post by smellUlater on Jul 12, 2006 11:38:57 GMT
Anyone from tyrone know what hapened to their wing back they used to have. he was fairly prominent for them when they first started to challenge the big boys. He was on the team at the start of their 2003 championship team but never came on in the final. he was a speedy, wing back and he had a smig. Always wondered how he hust disappeared off the scene and how this year he wasn't back i nthe reckoning with all their injuries. I can't think of his name but do you know who i am on about?
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Post by RashersTierney on Jul 12, 2006 16:42:45 GMT
how are you calling the offally dublin game rashers,there might not be much in it at the end. Evening KG, sorry I've been away a bit with family & smug Italians visiting from abroad. Close shave for your lads on Sunday, I wont say i didnt warn yis! Still think Cork could win it....see my usual big complicated explanation in the relevant thread! Offaly I expect to come out flying and play as well as they can, maybe even above themselves again. They have a long history of coming on leaps and bounds in finals. I'm hoping this is one year too soon for them. Also they are the smaller team, as everyone says. I expect the Dubs to play a middling performance - woeful V Longford, on fire V Laois, so.........you know it makes sense! That will leave it a close game. If Dubs maintain last-years knack of being good in tight finishes they will win by say...2-5 points, but if the relevant League form of losing (and drawing in Killarney!) the narrow games continues, then Biffs could catch us out. They will examine Barry C & the full-backs well with their longish ball over the half-backs into nippy goal-scoring forwards. As I've waffled ad nauseum all year, I'd much rather see PC in there, and Barry at corner, Henry half-back and Goggy (not that he's done anything wrong) would lose out, especially as Shaugho is also available. But I'll trust Pillar on this. He's a good man, did you see the way he was protecting Porky Joe in that brilliant picture in the Indo on monday? And Aaron Kernan trying to choke dad for not allowing them out to McGowans after the game?? Anyway, I'm rambling again, NURSE?! Ok, it'll be a cracker, we always seem to play well against the Faithful, but this is a new era, a new dawn, a new day, and as we've both found out in the last 15 years, history aint counting for too much! Meanwhile..........great win for Armagh, what an achievement. I'm not crowing about my predictions so far this year but..........oh ye of too much haste & of little faith! Donegal really miss Devenney, Doherty, and Sweeney was not fit. If they get some of those 3 going then they will be a nasty fish in the qualifiers, a better prospect than Derry methinks. Great performance Laois, I knew they were still a very good team (humiliated by my pre-match predictions! ) and that kind of win brings a team on much more than easier ones. Also they are the only Leinster team in recent vintage to have beaten a top 2 Ulster team in Champo (not to mention the teams they beat in the League), albeit Tyrone's lost players being a big factor. Mind you some of them were back, but truth be told Tyrone didnt look up for it from the very beginning in the Derry match, and the way they went out of the League showed a loss of stomach for the fight, I thought.............but no doubt they'll be back for more great clashes with Kerry etc. So all-in-all, the qualifiers currently appear a horrible place to be, especially for teams who havent lived up to expectations (Down, Tyrone, Kildare, Limerick etc), so winning Leinster again is crucial (man!) Finally: No team has done 2-in-a-row in Leinster since 1995, thats the kind of statistic to give me the heebie-jeebies! Sorry, I'm off to the jacks.............and the Jacks! ;D
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Post by BIGMAC on Jul 12, 2006 16:54:45 GMT
congrats bigmac on armaghs 3 in a row in ulster and 6 out of the last eight ulsters,the crossmaglen boys have some collection of medals to look back over in time to come.Yere chucking along nicely and are in a good position especially with the form in munster. hopefull just building a nice head of steam this year,in 2004 i thought we would blow u all away when we totally blew donegal out of the water and then come those erne boys but hopefully we'll not lose sigh of the prize this year.to be mentioned in the same breath as the great down team of the early 60's is a great honour so i'm hopin for sam no. 2 this year ;D
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Post by bigpaul on Jul 13, 2006 0:33:14 GMT
Rashers,you're at it again,you said Armagh wouldn't win Ulster this year!
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Post by expert05 on Jul 13, 2006 11:05:02 GMT
A Mayo,Cork and Offaly treble is worth a shot.
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Post by northpole on Jul 13, 2006 13:06:08 GMT
Predictions for the 1/4's...Armagh,Kerry,Galway,Fermanagh,Laois,Dublin,Mayo,Derry........depending on the draw
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Post by RashersTierney on Jul 13, 2006 18:28:21 GMT
Rashers,you're at it again,you said Armagh wouldn't win Ulster this year! Not denying it Paul, but my point was, I said dont write them off this year, which many were doing, that they may not win Ulster, but they will be right in there at the end of the Champo. They really shouldnt have won Ulster, but no team they played had the killer forward to pip them. Anyway, you must be walking tall in enemy lands now wha?!
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Post by northpole on Jul 14, 2006 10:22:49 GMT
Most open championship in a while ...no outstanding teams.Maybe even a surprise this year because there's nobody you could say is head and shoulders above the rest .Still maybe about 5 or 6 contenders for samuel.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 14, 2006 10:40:29 GMT
Dublin by three - four points in a bruiser on Sunday.....not dirty, just bruising. Galway by two - three. Mayo haven't progressed recently it seems.
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Post by watchdahop on Jul 17, 2006 12:41:42 GMT
For a change of pace: Did anyone see the highlights of Sligo and Westmeath? Some of the tackling was Kamikazee in extra time. And I wouldn't mind there was nothing in it at that stage!!
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Post by RashersTierney on Jul 18, 2006 0:49:08 GMT
;)Well, I know yis all dont give a fiddler's about anything other than licking your wounds this week, but I'm here to rub it in anyway! I thought we played very well, overall, in that we kept our composure even when things werent going well for long periods. I thought Whelo & Rhyno were magnificent, the best I've seen my Raheny man play. Very proud of him, the way he's come through all the years of criticism and is blossoming in late career. Tomas Quinn also once again on fire from play. Still unreliable from middling free-kicks, which sometimes puts us under pressure. Brogey again struggled for long spells but never hid & worked his way into it. Jayo still doing it after all these years. Our half-backs - powerful stuff. Lally and Bonner, lots of great running & good things. Keaney - unlucky with the post at the start, and overall very good. Now the downside - our full-backs werent really tested overall because Offaly had so little possession and our halfbacks in their faces all the time. When they did get the ball in they looked very dangerous - our lads stood off them alot. Better teams will examine this line much more thoroughly. Cluxton, overall very good, one brilliant save that practically killed the game, one crazy moment (like Armagh 2003, though not so much a loss of discipline) that could have wounded us badly. Also we won more easily at the end due to strength and fitness. Overall, I'm very, very pleased that we've done the 2-in-a-row Delaney Cups, very proud, and will just enjoy it for now. Prospects look like Galway in Quarters - a renewal of the u-21 rivalry of a few years back, when they beat us in a final, and I think we beat them in a Semi. They will have no fear of us and all the hype and favouratism worries me. Far too many pages in newspapers. But I trust Pillar. And I pray for tickets! SO many other impressions of this weekend - Mayo did what they had to, and this very hard ground-out win will give them a huge boost. They are still being written off, and from here on they can begin to express themselves. I've said it all along, I think they are in with a serious shout, and will win a hard-fought Quarter Final almost certainly against Laois. Great comeback by the OMoore county, I hope they dont get another shot at us! They smash-and-grabbed Meath in just the way the Royals have done to so many - a very good sign of a team, especially to do it in Navan. As I said before, they will be very hard bet now, and it'll be tough for Offaly to lift it enough. Then it'll be some game with Mayo. Fermanagh-Donegal I wont be calling, would say Donegal just if Sweeney & Doherty fit. Cork will have their work cut out whoever it is, another hard one to call, depends how much Cork really want to kick on - have they learned not to sit back on a big win? Great win Longford, unlucky with the draw, but delighted for them to have this taste of the big-time. Champo certainly taking off and many intrigueing and mouthwatering prospects ahead............
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 18, 2006 9:46:30 GMT
congrats rashers on the 2 in row,i would have loved to have been there,i'd say the atmosphere was magic,ye would would want to gaurd again the shinanigans that took place before the '92 final,though,headline on back of yesterdays herald,"dubs close in on sam",dangerous talk. i think sherlock is totally under appreciated by football people,i think he is a class act. there a good article on last sundays sundayworld by roy curtis,i think you would enjoy reading it.
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Post by BIGMAC on Jul 18, 2006 13:09:29 GMT
Last year's heartbreak is driving Armagh on to lift Sam
By Adrian Logan
15 July 2006 In Gaelic Football if Armagh keep their heads there is a Sam Maguire waiting for them this season.
They showed a real determination to win against Brian McIver's Donegal side. Joe Kernan has his team well focused for the challenges that lie ahead.
Last year they lost in dramatic style to a last gasp free from Peter Canavan. The hurt of that day is driving them on. That memory gives them an edge, an extra determination to succeed and I think they will this year. As a Tyrone man I hope that they can lift Sam.
You also have to give great credit to Fermanagh and Derry. They are teams on the make and although they aren't quite the finished article they have been excellent so far this year. Derry deserve credit for their ability to keep coming back. Fermanagh have defied the critics with a string of superb wins.
As for Tyrone, last Saturday's defeat was the worst performance I have seen under Mickey Harte. There is clearly something wrong.
Whether it's the attitude or the injuries to the key players, they certainly showed no hunger or fight.
Laois thoroughly deserved their win over Tyrone. They showed all the drive and determination to win at that level although I don't think that they'll do much in the Championship.
The Orchard County's Paul McGrane and Kieran McGeeney epitomise the proper attitude. They were immense in the Ulster final.
Armagh's biggest rivals could be Dublin. Their problem is they are a bit like England. They aren't as good as they like to think they are. However, they are always guaranteed plenty of support at Croke Park and are always difficult to beat. However, with a historic third Ulster Championship already won and plenty more to come for big Joe's side, I expect this to be Armagh's year.
for those of u that dont know logie he's utv's sports anchor
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Post by RashersTierney on Jul 18, 2006 14:00:16 GMT
congrats rashers on the 2 in row,i would have loved to have been there,i'd say the atmosphere was magic,ye would would want to gaurd again the shinanigans that took place before the '92 final,though,headline on back of yesterdays herald,"dubs close in on sam",dangerous talk. i think sherlock is totally under appreciated by football people,i think he is a class act. there a good article on last sundays sundayworld by roy curtis,i think you would enjoy reading it. Cheers KG. It was a great occasion, and I'm savouring it all the more after years of under-achievement meant missing out on the big days like this. Days to be cherished, and as Kirsty (& Luke) sang, "days I remember all my life...." Of course youre spot on about the hype, but what can you do? Its all down to learning to use it in some way, because its impossible to escape it. They have learned enough lessons over the years, so there's no excuse. At least its a great thing to see it for GAA instead of soccer and rugby for a change! ;D Thanks for the tip about the article in the Worreld. That reminds me, I havent read a Con Houlihan article all year - now that's just wrong...........
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Post by RashersTierney on Jul 19, 2006 22:02:04 GMT
Looks like a Longford-Westmeath final. Imagine the re-matches & rivalries that could take place:
:oKerry-Armagh, a final winner takes all clash of new millenium great rivals. >:(Kerry-Cork, I think yous would turn up for that one! :)Armagh-Fermagh, again, winner takes all. :DArmagh-Donegal, a last chance for retribution for Tir Chonaill against the Orchard :(Mayo-Galway, nuff said. :-XMayo-Dublin, revenge for the League mauling? :'(Galway-Dublin, revenge for many years & 1983 in particular? ???Dublin-Laois, say no more :-[Armagh-Dublin, again a last chance for another big Armagh victim. ::)Kerry-Mayo, say no more again, last chance for Mayo 8-)Galway-Kerry & Mayo-Fermanagh also have some interesting recent backdrops...........as do Laois-Armagh.
;DLads, this is gonna be GRRRRREEEEEEEEEAT!
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 22, 2006 18:36:07 GMT
cork were nearly caught by limerick,the second games is poor,i couldn't watch anymore of it,galways dip has being spectacular since last years demolition of kilkenny in the semi. this game was supposed to have been competive,another blow to the hurling championship.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 24, 2006 11:27:09 GMT
some of the hurling was poor at the weekend,its hard to drag ones self away from the golf when the tiger is in the grove and on his way to winning another major championship. amazing scenes of emotion after the final putt when he dedicated the victory to his deceased father,great to see such humanity in one of the world greatest sports man who is well on his way to becoming the worlds first sports billionaire. They was no head butting of opponents or challenging referring decisions there,maybe we could learn something from his conduct in the gaa world when we challenge ever refereeing decision and shamefully appeal alot of disciplinary decisions making a mockery of our games.
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Post by animal on Jul 24, 2006 11:31:45 GMT
Was at the hurling yesterday. Clare didn't break sweat. Amazing to see Lohan and McMahon still playing blinders ditto Davy Fitz. The 2nd game was top notch. Dan the Man and Ken McGrath were outstanding all day. Is Ken McGrath hurling's Seamus Moynihan??
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 24, 2006 11:36:03 GMT
Was at the hurling yesterday. Clare didn't break sweat. Amazing to see Lohan and McMahon still playing blinders ditto Davy Fitz. The 2nd game was top notch. Dan the Man and Ken McGrath were outstanding all day. Is Ken McGrath hurling's Seamus Moynihan?? any chance they might beat the cats, lohan and mcmahon remind me of the some of the performances the lads from the golden years used to put in well into their 30's.
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Post by animal on Jul 24, 2006 11:39:07 GMT
True enough. Don't know if they have enough in them to beat the Cats should be interesting finding out though! I'd say we're in for two mighty semi-finals. Times like this living in Dublin is the biz because its usually handy to get tickets for the hurling semi finals.
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Post by kerrygold on Jul 24, 2006 11:44:43 GMT
ya,hard to beat croker for the big games,should be two great games alright,cork and waterford will be massive,i wouldnt rule clare out either,i will have to pencil these dates into the diary. 3 munster teams left,it would be hard to scrap the munster championship,i think galway should row in with leinster and maybe antrim also.
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