KY50
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Post by KY50 on Jun 27, 2006 8:33:27 GMT
One thing I noticed about the Dubs is that they can be very cyncial in an underhanded way. They roughed up the Laois forwards early in the game.When Clancy missed the goal there was off the ball with the smaller Laois players especially forwards(Did same to Tyrone in League) Laois then lost Clancy - Henry should have got sent off. Dublin then took over completely. They are a very good team and will easily now get to an All Ireland Final. Their forwards have improved and they have tightned up at the back. They appear to be extremely fit and physical and will be tough to beat. I said at the start of the year that they will get to the AI Final and now they are looking good.
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Post by TheCritic on Jun 27, 2006 9:34:58 GMT
One match doesn't make a summer KY50, wouldn't get too carried away yet!! Dubs still need an ingredient called "CONSISTENCY".... You never know what kind of a team is going to turn up on the day!! Will they be able to keep their feet on the ground?? Remains to be seen!!!!
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RashersTierney
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Post by RashersTierney on Jun 30, 2006 0:22:42 GMT
All good points above I think, especially inconsistency, and feet...ground....on...keep, in some order!
However I dont get the point about David Henry (the brilliant Raheny back), why should he have been sent off? Because he tried to shoulder Clancy, hit him awkwardly, and Clancy went off injured? If it was a foul it was more accidental. David is no dirty player.
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 2, 2006 21:17:33 GMT
What came over Matty Forde........... there must hve been serious intimidation going on. Colm O Rourke was very holier than thou on the TV yet he had no problem sharing a dressingromm with Colm Coyle, Liam Harnan, Mick Lyons and Gerry McEntee in his day.....
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Post by RashersTierney on Jul 2, 2006 21:40:20 GMT
We Irish (even us "not true Irishmen" ) are very good at being holy Joes when it suits us, and GAA is a very physical game. I'm sure Matty Forde was getting loads from the OohFaile backs. Anyway, we kid ourselves its something new, I was watching a piece about the Cats team of the early 70s and in every clip somebody got creamed, high-tackled, belted with a hurl, dragged & pulled etc. Good to see The Faithful Biffs back in the final, it's been a crazy year of unpredictability, teams winning matches with huge scores and then getting beat by huge scores, almost no lines of form etc. Is it just me or are most of the games somehow very "loose", lacking a predictable pattern? Today's game was one of the best and most "normal" games I've seen all year, despite some very bad refereeing. Offaly always seem to turn up when not predicted, and are no respectors of reputation or tradition. That should be good for us, but Pillar & our fullbacks will have lots to think about with the way that McNamee and the boys are slamming in the goals for fun this year. McManus and Whelo should have a few good clashes!
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 2, 2006 22:14:03 GMT
One of two things will happen......... dublin will come out and simply blow offaly away because offaly will suffer stage fright or........ offaly will give as good as they get for an hour until the dubs pull away probably thanks to a cosgrave goal.
Meath "have not gone away you know".......wouldnt it be lovely to have a dublin/meath quarter final...
Finally a word about offaly.........outside of kerry........offaly are the county i admire most........50000 population and they compete at a high level in both codes and they have won an all star in every position in both hurling and football.........the only county to do so. Think about in rashers......half the population of Tallaght............
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 3, 2006 8:45:53 GMT
Did anybody see the Sunday Game?
Fair point about Matty Forde - nothing happend with your man grabbed Enda Muldoon by the sliotars even though there was evidence. Will Matty get off the stamping?
Also, some lad called Thomas from Kerry texted in to them to say that Niall McNamee reminds him of Maurice Fitzgerald and is as good as him. Can somebody find out who this man is and remove him across the county bounds?
Overall, not really surprised by the football result and the hurling. Waterford looked very good but they have to remember Galway hadn't played a top team since mid April! Dan the man did no good for the team by saying "If we play again like we played today, nobody'll beat us".
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Post by sullyschoice on Jul 3, 2006 16:15:27 GMT
Meath may not have gone away yet...but they will as soon as they play a half decent team...I said it here a couple of weeks ago...Roscommon are no good. Dont judge anyones prospects cos they beat Roscommon.
In a competition in my local Gaa club I predicted a Dublin V Offaly Leinster final. Offaly were playing some nice football towards the end on the league. Dubs will still beat them.
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Post by RashersTierney on Jul 3, 2006 21:28:50 GMT
One of two things will happen......... dublin will come out and simply blow offaly away because offaly will suffer stage fright or........ offaly will give as good as they get for an hour until the dubs pull away probably thanks to a cosgrave goal. Meath "have not gone away you know".......wouldnt it be lovely to have a dublin/meath quarter final... Finally a word about offaly.........outside of kerry........offaly are the county i admire most........50000 population and they compete at a high level in both codes and they have won an all star in every position in both hurling and football.........the only county to do so. Think about in rashers......half the population of Tallaght............ I do Mick, oh I really do! And you think about this - no Offaly team in my lifetime has shown "stage fright" in a final - they dont know the meaning of it! They will play to their best we can be sure. McNamee is a great forward in the making, strong off both feet, the new Matt Connor?
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 5, 2006 20:51:33 GMT
Is the ulster final on this sunday between Donegal and Armagh? Very low profile about it
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 6, 2006 8:21:34 GMT
Ya, and it's in Croke Park!!
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Post by ciarrai33 on Jul 8, 2006 18:08:48 GMT
Micko Dwyer? What a legend, Laois might not be finished yet
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Post by BIGMAC on Jul 8, 2006 19:06:09 GMT
Micko Dwyer? What a legend, Laois might not be finished yet ah sure they only beat a minor league team,its not like their bigtime is it ;D ;D ;D
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Post by bannerman on Jul 8, 2006 19:58:22 GMT
How do we feel about tyrone gone....
Personally I am thrilled there negative tactics are a disgrace....
But the downside of this is that if kerry dont get to play (due to play in semi) kerry will more than likely win another "handy" all ireland..... unless we beat either tyrone or armagh along the way it not a proper all ireland in my opinion and tyrone would be better than armagh
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Post by Mickmack on Jul 8, 2006 20:36:23 GMT
Laois need serious credit for their second half performance.
No team would have survived the injury crisis that hit Tyrone.
Mickey Harte was most gracious at the end......... he is a great sportsman........ if he had a cut at the referee I would not have blamed him but he didnt.
As far handy all irelands well..........my view is simple and maybe even simplistic...........the team with the better forward line wins sam. Without Canavan, McGuigan and Dooher Tyrone came back to the level of other teams. Not alone has kerrys biggest obstacle been removed but Armagh, Dublin , Galway even Mayo will fancy their chances. I still feel that kerry are in decline and only a fortunate set of circumstances would enable us to win sam this year...........One of those happened today
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Post by redbag on Jul 8, 2006 21:41:44 GMT
Amazing how Tyrone didn't launch the long ball for the second half with that wind behind them... The amount of ball they gave away cheaply with solo runs into dead ends and bad passes was most unlike Tyrone of the last few years... Suppose we'll see the usual messages about "Billy being a great loss to Kerry football"... although the way we're playing this year up front, there may be more substance to this arguement than in the past.... I'd fancy Donegal to make it a double upset tomorrow...
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Post by Tadhgeen on Jul 9, 2006 19:59:24 GMT
Lost track of the yellow cards issued in this Donegal v Armagh game. Ronan Clarke the difference between the sides for me. He always threatned and kept Donegal backline busy.
Donegal lacked firepower up front. Although they kept plugging away to the end but never looked like winning. I'm not sure about Armagh, they are physical as always but didn't convince me that they are a top team. Perhaps they will get better but I doubt it.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jul 10, 2006 10:51:52 GMT
How do we feel about tyrone gone.... Personally I am thrilled there negative tactics are a disgrace.... But the downside of this is that if kerry dont get to play (due to play in semi) kerry will more than likely win another "handy" all ireland..... unless we beat either tyrone or armagh along the way it not a proper all ireland in my opinion and tyrone would be better than armagh thats crazy talk. any all ireland won, by any team, is well won and deseving of recognition. and to think that, just because KErry dont play Tyrone or Armagh then they will easily win an all ireland is madness. You saw yesterday how much work KErry ahve to do to win an All ireland. And if they beat london in teh semi final and New York in teh final then its deserved and they would be worthy winners.
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Post by Dermot on Jul 10, 2006 13:01:28 GMT
Ah well, I suppose I can relax for the rest of the summer then folks. I told yez we were on a hiding to nothing this year .... not that anyone needed telling. Good luck to all teams left and I for one will settle back and be able to watch the matches and the competition continue without resorting to biting my nails. - not much of a silver lining really is it I can't see anyone winning apart from Kerry, Armagh or Dublin........ But it certainly won't be an easy All Ireland and thats for sure.
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Post by seamus on Jul 10, 2006 13:27:22 GMT
Tough luck Dermot. It was a bridge too far with the players you had missing. Forwards win games and most are yours are crocked. Don't disappear on us for the summer! Independent outside opinion is always welcome here.
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Post by kerryman on Jul 10, 2006 14:31:54 GMT
I for one am sorry to see Tyrone out. There was a great line in the examiner the last day:
"Tyrones injury list looks like a guest list for citywest on all all stars night".
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Post by Dermot on Jul 10, 2006 14:37:54 GMT
I for one am sorry to see Tyrone out. There was a great line in the examiner the last day: "Tyrones injury list looks like a guest list for citywest on all all stars night". Ha, thats a clinker all right. Looks to be nowadays that its nearly impossible to win 2 in a row. ---------- Nah Seamus, "I haven't gone away you know" as the saying goes - Still very interested to see the year pan out - There will be some great matches to see and I for one can't wait.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jul 10, 2006 14:45:34 GMT
I dunno if I would call it impossible Dermot. How close have both Armagh and Kerry come recently to it. Beaten by you shower each time..
Tyrone would have given it a right go this year with fully fit Mcguigan, O'Neill, Dooher etc etc. Teams can lost focus and enthusiasm after winning the All Ireland but an early loss in a provincial championship does wonders for sharpening the mind..
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Post by Dermot on Jul 10, 2006 15:04:41 GMT
I see what you mean but I suppose I'm coming from the view that the injuries could have been less coincidental and more related to the success we had last year - The long year's training and hard matches finally catching up with them - Though I could be talking crap and possibly we were just unlucky with the injuries and they had nothing to do with what happened last year............... I just don't know !
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jul 10, 2006 15:08:19 GMT
Well Keryy trained as hard as ye did, and Armagh had as tough a year as ye games wise, (obviously barring the all ireland) I think Tyrone just got rogered by lady luck.
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Post by Dermot on Jul 10, 2006 15:14:02 GMT
yeah, you're probably right - - - I could be over analysing the situation !
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Post by austinstacksabu on Jul 10, 2006 15:22:49 GMT
Armagh looked dangerous and Francie B was back to his glass eating best yesterday. There are smells of 2002 about the place.....BigMac, you didn't see the Tribune by any chance yesterday did you?
Hard luck Dermot. It was coming. Funninly enough, people are now begining to ask why the conveyer belt wasn't able to churn out the U21's and minors. Now, I'm a great believer in the system ye have up in Tyrone, but, well, I suppose, fair question. Am curious to know what you think.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Jul 10, 2006 15:31:59 GMT
yeah, you're probably right - - - I could be over analysing the situation ! What? a member of this forum over analyse something?? No way... Would never happen!!!!!!!!
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Post by Dermot on Jul 10, 2006 15:48:50 GMT
yeah, you're probably right - - - I could be over analysing the situation ! What? a member of this forum over analyse something?? No way... Would never happen!!!!!!!! It could possibly be assisted by being badly hung over - Just back from a mental stag party. - Christ but I feel unwell
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Post by Dermot on Jul 10, 2006 15:55:44 GMT
Armagh looked dangerous and Francie B was back to his glass eating best yesterday. There are smells of 2002 about the place.....BigMac, you didn't see the Tribune by any chance yesterday did you? Hard luck Dermot. It was coming. Funninly enough, people are now begining to ask why the conveyer belt wasn't able to churn out the U21's and minors. Now, I'm a great believer in the system ye have up in Tyrone, but, well, I suppose, fair question. Am curious to know what you think. Armagh will not be easily beat - Big Joe and the boys are seriously trying to make Joe's infamous words come true for them - "A good team wins and All Ireland..... A great team wins 2". They will give it some lash this year. Stacks - I know what you mean.. Many folk up here are wondering why certain players were not drafted in .. Players like Justin McMahon and Colm Cavanagh for example. Some folk also wonder why MH stays with the same back panel..many of whom played for him at underage level - Some of them are clearly not good enough but he persists with them. There are a lot of good players around who don't get considered seemingly because they never played for MH at underage level. I certainly ain't going to start slagging him off just yet though as he's won us our only 2 AI's to date - I'll let him pick the teams for a day or two yet
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