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Post by FatTom on Sept 20, 2006 18:38:06 GMT
nothing more than anyone else but he will get it I feel.
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Post by kerryeye on Sept 20, 2006 19:03:15 GMT
Picked this team about 3 weeks ago(its on page 4 of the thread),there are two changesI would make.Barry Owens for Aidan Higgins at corner back and would have to take Masters off for Paul Galvin. Quirke,, Higgins,Marc o Sé,Aidan O Mahony, Ger spillane,Bryan Cullen,Seamus, Mcgarrity,Dara, Alan Dillon,Alan Brogan,Masters, Mortimer,Donaghy,Ronan Clarke Would put Marc corner back,Barry Owens full back and Galvin number 12. Quirke deserves number 1 but it'll probaly go to cluxton,unfortunately.
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Post by Aodhan on Sept 20, 2006 20:55:27 GMT
Gary Connaughton should get the goalkeeper spot otherwise I'm in full agreement.
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Post by falveyb2k on Sept 20, 2006 23:27:18 GMT
Yeah I know but I don't think any of the mayo players were consistently good enough over the year even though they will get at least two. I feel Dillon will edge out Munnelly even though the Laois man performed the better in their 2 contests/scored more/covered more ground during the year. Likewise Mortimer will get on in front of Cooper even though he never links up with his colleagues and remember most of his scores have come from close in frees and most of his scores from play have come from close in with no pressure in contrast to Cooper who has a hand in nearly every Kerry score. The beaten finalists have to be accomodated even if they're not very deserving of it. At least I didn't do what Martin McHugh did this evening and leave Darragh O Se out of my team!
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Post by FatTom on Sept 20, 2006 23:31:59 GMT
Errah that is insane. Agreed on Gooch, he should get one. Sure we lost a final by a point in 2002 after playing the best football of the Summer in annihilating the AI champions and our biggest rivals and only got 2. Mayo get destroyed in a final, the Dubs lose a semi and they will be looking for more than that.
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Post by Aodhan on Sept 21, 2006 0:37:36 GMT
CCfEI did'nt realise you had Mortimer in there, no way is he an allstar. Two is the most Mayo will get in anycase. Gooch should get #13 but will be surprised if they'll give him it.
Donaghy for player of the year, Kavanagh for young player.
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Post by kerryeye on Sept 21, 2006 0:56:39 GMT
Id love to see Gooch in there and think the only thing that will stop him are his own unbelievably high standards,which he failed to live up to,Mortimer will get one for being top scorer alone,half of which came from frees.With Aidan,Marc,Dara and Star near certs and Seamus and Paul as good as on aswell,cant see them giving one to Gooch,and its a straight swap between him and Mortimer,to give Mayo extra numbers.Dont agree wit you on Connoughton,it is Quirke for me,very closely followed by Cluxton,both these keepers made were top class during the year and worked there kick outs very well.
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Post by peig on Sept 21, 2006 15:29:02 GMT
Ok, here's my ha'penny's worth:
1) Quirke
2) A. Higgins 3) B. Owens 4) Marc Ó Sé
5) G. Spillane 6) Moynihan 7) A. O'Mahoney
8) D. Ó Sé 9) N. Murphy
10) Galvin 11) Brogan 12) K. McDonald
13) A. Dillon 14) Donaghy 15) R. Clarke
Young Player of the Year: Keith Higgins Player of the Year: Darragh/Marc Ó Sé
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Post by gruaigcatach on Sept 21, 2006 15:32:26 GMT
the dub journos will never leave cullen out even though he should be left out. one of o'mahony, spillane, cullen and moynihan will be accomodated in the full back line id imagine. didnt o'mahony play in the corner on masters in the semi final and on a few more times during games througout the championship? or was that just my inmagination
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Post by FatTom on Sept 21, 2006 16:21:15 GMT
He did. He should be in corner.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 21, 2006 20:33:00 GMT
i'd suggest that the gooch did more in the last three games for kerry than peter canavan did to earn his all-star last year.
i'd suggest that the gooch did more than peter forde or dessie dolan did to earn their all-stars
i'd suggest that dara on cinneade did more than dolan or forde did to win their all-stars but got fried in '02 and got fried in '04 dispite scoring 8 points in the final.
i'd suggest the gooch will get fried also in 2006 dispite being a top class no.13 for kerrys last three games and setting up the goals from fullforward that clinched the league final.
lifes a beach.
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Post by FatTom on Sept 21, 2006 20:36:26 GMT
i'd suggest that the gooch did more in the last three games for kerry than peter canavan did to earn his all-star last year. i'd suggest that the gooch did more than peter forde or dessie dolan did to earn their all-stars i'd suggest that dara on cinneade did more than dolan or forde did to win their all-stars but got fried in '02 and got fried in '04 dispite scoring 8 points in the final. i'd suggest the gooch will get fried also in 2006 dispite being a top class no.13 for kerrys last three games and setting up the goals from fullforward that clinched the league final. lifes a beach. And a hell of a lot more than PTG in 02.
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Post by sullyschoice on Sept 21, 2006 22:12:23 GMT
mc garrity has played himself out of an all star last sunday. Gooch wont get one, played a more unselfish role this year ( I dont mean that as an insult) but was well off the pace earlier.
Aidan O mahony was our most consistant player all year
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 21, 2006 22:19:51 GMT
Until the league final, for those of you who observed the league in any way, shape or form, Gooch and Darragh O'Se were the two players of the year to that point.
From there, Gooch had a bad run until the All Ireland final by his standards, and in Munster, a killer run by any standards. He just didn't have it easy. He won't get an All Star, but may get a nomination.
Marc O'Se and Aidan O'Mahony were our most consistant players, followed not far back by Paul Galvin I would suggest. Seamus will be touch and go for an All Star (again), and Cullen may sadly get the vote. He shouldn't though. He played teams that were weak as water until Mayo, who it transpired weren't up to scratch anyway, and they exposed his great weakness which was patently clear all year - he can't defend going backwards.
But, he and Brogan were Dublins best players, and I suspect they'll get the nod.
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Post by FatTom on Sept 21, 2006 22:43:14 GMT
Good assesment. Still though Gooch was still vital to Kerry but not as potent as in recent years. He has to get a nomination. I think he deserves an All Star but as you say he probably won't get one.
I'll disagree with you on one thing in Munster. He beat Canty to nearly every ball but was unlucky with his wides. In terms of scores set up and frees won he still did the trick even if his shooting boots were missing.
Canavan and Dolan got All Stars for less but Gooch will fall down in that he will be judged against his own ridiculously high performances.
If Seamus Moynihan does not get an All Star this year it will be a DISGRACE
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Post by SteelFixer on Sept 21, 2006 23:18:07 GMT
Paul Hearty
Marc O' Shea Francie Bellew Joe Higgins
Ger Spillane Seamus Moynihan Aidan Mahony
Dara Shea Nicholas Murphy
Cynical Alan Brogan Alan Dillon
Mike Frank Star Conor Mortimer
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Post by FatTom on Sept 21, 2006 23:20:21 GMT
Mike Frank? Bellew?I doubt it. Hearty could be a good call.
Joe Higgins was well beat Vs Mayo.
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Post by SteelFixer on Sept 21, 2006 23:51:41 GMT
It was between Mike Frank and Gooch, and I just thought that Mike Frank was rock solid for us all year and got us vital scores when some of our other forwards were going bad ! He showed great character to bounce back this year after a few indifferent and turbelent campaigns of late !
In relation to Francie Bellew, he was'nt sensational but I just felt that he was the most consistent and reliable full back in the championship ! He had a good Ulster campaign, and remember he had Star in his pocket for long periods of the quater final ! You could also argue that he was unlucky with the goal in that game, in that he slipped on that farcical pitch when Star turned him !
Hearty was the only keeper I could remember making a few good saves in the championship !
With regards to Higgins, He had a few massive games in the qualifiers and constantly drove his team forward ! I'm conscious that he shipped a lot of scores against Mayo, but he was keeping a very fragile full back line together and got caught out covering for other defenders on several occasions ! I agree though, that it is unlikeky that he will get a spot !
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 22, 2006 7:42:46 GMT
i know colm will be judged by his own high standards,but in my opinion as right corner forwards go i think colm has being a top class corner forward in kerrys last four championship games,3 of them being at the business end of the championship. examples of good corner forward play,his goal v longford,his role in kerrys late scores v armagh just before half time,his points in the second half v cork to steady the ship,his goal v mayo to twist the knife,i've seen playes getting all -stars for less. But i accept i'm proberly flogging a dead horse here in promoting his case.
dara and the gooch were hugely responcible for kerry winning the league,of course not many of the jurno's will have been in scotstown to see him grap a winning point at the very end of the game to gain the extra point which was vital to gain qualifaction later one.
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Post by moth on Nov 8, 2006 17:28:46 GMT
Below is the GPA team-of-the-year. It is flattering to see six Kerry players, but I find it hard to believe that we had four of the best 6 defenders in this year's championship, while at the same time I think that Paul Galvin was hard done by. 1. Stephen Cluxton (Dublin) 2. Marc Ó Sé (Kerry) 3. Barry Owens (Fermanagh) 4. Tom O’Sullivan (Kerry) 5. Seamus Moynihan (Kerry) 6. Bryan Cullen (Dublin) 7. Aidan O’Mahony (Kerry) 8 Nicholas Murphy (Cork) 9. Darragh Ó Sé (Kerry) 10. Alan Dillon (Mayo) 11. Alan Brogan (Dublin) 12. Ciaran McDonald (Mayo) 13. Conor Mortimer (Mayo) 14. Kieran Donaghy (Kerry) 15. Ronan Clarke (Armagh)
Among the changes that I'd make are:: 1. Quirke of Cork in goal 4. Higgins (Mayo) 5. Spillane (Cork) 10 Paul Galvin
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 8, 2006 19:38:54 GMT
one kerry forward is a bit suspect after winning our last four games by a collective total of 36 points and the league semi final and final by a collective total of 16 points,keiran donaghy must be a savage forward in fairness, a beast of a man.
i think moyno deserves to get an allstar in fairness moth
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Post by sullyschoice on Nov 8, 2006 22:25:34 GMT
BArry Owens wasnt in the championship long enough to get the full back birth. Canty would have got it if he wasnt injured.
Ciaran Mc Donald had a quiet enough year, not deserving of the award.
Cluxton (although I dont like him) meritted it on his kick-outs alone.
Galvin was unlucky alright. I must say I dont like his dark side but he is a marvellous and influential presence.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 8, 2006 22:38:43 GMT
Galvin is a contender for player of the year........
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Post by topcat on Nov 8, 2006 22:48:23 GMT
Galvin is a contender for player of the year........ I think he is too but his red card would count against him
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 9, 2006 0:17:11 GMT
galvin was massive for kerry this summer,raised the anti big time for the first time this summer v armagh,a vital cog in the kerry machine.
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