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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 4, 2006 15:19:23 GMT
Ronan Clarke is still ahead of Donaghy and unless Kieran has a great day in the All Ireland final (fingers crossed he does), Clarke should get it. Mortimer and Stevie Mc would be pushing for the two corners, although Stevie had a quieter year than usual by his own standards.
Brogan might get one for Dublin too somewhere.
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Post by butchy on Sept 5, 2006 10:12:09 GMT
Who do ye fancy for player of the year ?? Marc and Daragh O'Se would have to be in the reckoning if Kerry win the final. If Mayo win Mcgarrity would be a top contender !!
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Post by apocalypseanois on Sept 5, 2006 13:25:43 GMT
Ronan Clarke is still ahead of Donaghy and unless Kieran has a great day in the All Ireland final (fingers crossed he does), Clarke should get it. Mortimer and Stevie Mc would be pushing for the two corners, although Stevie had a quieter year than usual by his own standards. Brogan might get one for Dublin too somewhere. I think Donaghy will get full forward slot austinstacks. I think Clarke will be pushed into the corner. Clarke deserves an all star and the only way they can accomidate both these players is by doing this (I cant imagine Donaghy in the corner!) Mortimer will probably be in the other corner. I think Keaney is also a good shot for Dublin too.
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Post by kerryeye on Sept 5, 2006 22:51:41 GMT
Dara O Sé to get player of the year(win or lose),no one from Mayo is in contention really.Its been a strange year in the sense that no 3 or 4 players are out on their own in the running for player of the year like it has been in the past number of years.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 6, 2006 12:59:58 GMT
Player of the year is a funny thing - a good showing by either Mortimer or especially McDonald in the final after his semi final performance and either of them can push for it ahead of Darragh. Remember, Mortimer has won a Sigerson, a Connacht title, made a very good run in the league and has Mayo in the All Ireland final - only for him that day in Carrick-on-Shannon, Leitrim would have beaten Mayo.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 6, 2006 13:09:13 GMT
in darraghs defence we wouldnt have quailfied for the national leaque play offs without him,he was superb all during the league in the depts of winter.
it was darragh who grabbed the team and the match by the scruff of the neck v armagh in the quarters,remember the first two balls at the start of the second half he won. i doubt we would have beaten armagh without him and his brothers.
without darragh, nic murphy would proberly have made the semi final very difficult for us.
the all-ireland final is set up for darragh to claim greatness,i'm sure that wont be lost on him and his brothers.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Sept 6, 2006 13:17:05 GMT
For me he is hands down the player of the year without doubt. Consistently good all year (bar maybe the drawn munster final - by his own standards) and the first 5 minutes he put in at the start of the second half against Armagh was the greatest laying down of a marker, and setting of standards I have seen in a long time.
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 6, 2006 13:18:55 GMT
he is, by the perverbial country mile at this point in time.
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Post by JOAN on Sept 6, 2006 13:48:30 GMT
Darragh without a doubt
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Post by gruaigcatach on Sept 6, 2006 14:15:26 GMT
the player of the year award is normally decided by who plays best in the 1/4's, semi's and final. Daragh was very quiet in championship before then but he has been excellent in the business end of things. he is in pole position for the award at the moment. There are a lot of players who could be player of the year if they have a great final. dillon, mcdonald and mortimer for Mayo could get the award with a man of the match perfrmance. brian cullen was in the running until he had a stinker against Mayo. Marc Ó'Sé could still get it.
who will get young player of the year?
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Post by butchy on Sept 6, 2006 15:02:36 GMT
Kieran Donaghy would be an absolute certainty if he meets the requirements for it. By the way does anyone know the requorements for young player of the year ??
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Post by gruaigcatach on Sept 6, 2006 15:10:11 GMT
my thoughts exactly, what is the age limit for the award. Donaghy is an obvious candidate if he qualifies. they'll probably give it to a 26 year old Dub.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 6, 2006 16:25:10 GMT
Its somebody who is 21 or under and has played in at least three senior intercounty games the previous year.
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Post by una on Sept 6, 2006 22:45:13 GMT
Marc o Se is a dead cert for me.Has been playing fantastic football all year.Thought he deserved one last year as well.Darragh-wot can i say?legend.Player of the year for me but will be passed over if we lose.Star is the story of the summer.Completely different team since he moved to full forward.Win lose or draw they would be my choice.If we win Seamus.O Mahony and maybe Tomas.All depends on the final.
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Post by macdanger on Sept 7, 2006 1:08:11 GMT
"Dara O Sé to get player of the year(win or lose),no one from Mayo is in contention really"
Bull*, the player of the year will be decided based on the final performance from a player who has been playing well throughout, if McG skins Darragh, then he can forget about it.
I reckon McG and darragh (both are well in the running) will cancel each other out and neither will get it. Marc is the big other contender for Kerry and is probably the favorite at the moment
For Mayo, it'd be Dillon, Mac or Mort - it all depends on who shows up on the big day............
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 7, 2006 8:13:52 GMT
darragh wont be cancelled out in the final.
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Post by una on Sept 7, 2006 11:34:40 GMT
just out of curiousity.Can anyone tell me when was the last time player of the year went to a player from the losing side???
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Post by austinstacksabu on Sept 7, 2006 13:33:54 GMT
For the All Star footballer of the year, Steven McDonnell won it in 2003 despite losing the All Ireland final.
Fot the Texaco footballer of the year, that's a real pub question. The answer is Colm O'Rourke in 1991, when Down won the All Ireland.
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Post by noreenos on Sept 7, 2006 15:54:49 GMT
Have to agree with you Kerrygold-Daragh O'Se was brilliant thoughout the year especially in the league. And against Armagh with his brothers, without that performance things would be different lads.
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Post by lostinmayo on Sept 8, 2006 9:46:35 GMT
was just reading the new section about the final that Adimn posted and was looking at the pen pics of the players. It makes interesting reading in terms of no's of All-Stars of the current squad...
2 players have 3 awards, Gooch and Mike McCarthy 3 have 2 awards, Seamo, Tomas and Murf and 4 have 1, Darragh, Galvin, MFR, Tom O' S
i think it's a poor return for a team that has been in 4 finals in 5 years and the semi final the other year, amazing that Darragh and Seamus have 3 between 2 of them with the amount of good football they've played, they obviously lost out on '04
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Post by seamus on Sept 8, 2006 10:07:46 GMT
What bugs me is that Moynihan only has 2 and canavan has 6. I rate both players very highly and think it is dreadful.
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Post by gruaigcatach on Sept 8, 2006 10:39:55 GMT
moynihan deserves more than 2 if canavan has 6. canavan was getting all-stars for getting out of bed the last few years. i think it was disgraceful as well that his last action as a footballer was to haul the gooch down 20 yards off the ball. completely tarnished his image in my eyes, and totally depicts what is wrong with ulster football when a talented footballer like him can be reduced to that type of 'win no matter what the cost' mentality
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Post by butchy on Sept 8, 2006 10:54:36 GMT
Kerry's All-Star list since '96 1996: M. Fitzgerald 1997: M. Fitzgerald, D. O'Keeffe, S. Moynihan, E. Breen, P. Laide 2000: D. O'Keeffe, S. Moynihan, M. McCarthy, D. O Se, L. Hassett, MF Russell 2001: J. Crowley 2002: D O Se, C Cooper 2004: D Murphy, T O'Sullivan, M McCarthy, T O Se, P Galvin, C Cooper 2005: D. Murphy, M. McCarthy, T. O Se, C. Cooper
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Post by kerrygold on Sept 8, 2006 11:37:32 GMT
the list from 2002 is fairly bleek considering the champange football that was played that year.
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Post by lostinmayo on Sept 8, 2006 11:51:18 GMT
actually, i think that list is wrong Butchy and 2002 is even bleaker, according to the pen pics on this site, Darragh has only one All-Star in 2000, which would give us one All-Star from '02, which is crazy as you say Kerrygold the football we played that year
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Post by kerryeye on Sept 8, 2006 15:14:22 GMT
Its some disgrace alright that seamus and dara havent more,Dara o Cinneide doesnt have any.We,as with all other counties only seem to get all stars when we win.I think the system should be changed,too much emphasis put on the finalists,Its only one game.im goin to pick my team now. Quirke,, Higgins,Marc o Sé,Aidan O Mahony, Ger spillane,Bryan Cullen,Seamus, Mcgarrity,Dara, Alan Dillon,Alan Brogan,Masters, Mortimer,Donaghy,Ronan Clarke Put Marc at full,did well there in the league and have 3 centre backs in the half back line. 3 Cork,4 Mayo,5 kerry(bias perhaps)2 Dubs,1 Amagh. Would love to see the All Star selectors team now and how it would have changed after final.
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Post by butchy on Sept 8, 2006 15:19:14 GMT
Darragh Definitely won an All star in 2002 lostinmayo
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Post by Tadhgeen on Sept 8, 2006 22:02:35 GMT
Forget about the All Stars. They are always contentious and we never get a fair shout. It wouldn't surprise me if Dublin got 2 or 3 this year!
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Post by tyroneperson on Sept 9, 2006 0:48:42 GMT
moynihan deserves more than 2 if canavan has 6. canavan was getting all-stars for getting out of bed the last few years. i think it was disgraceful as well that his last action as a footballer was to haul the gooch down 20 yards off the ball. completely tarnished his image in my eyes, and totally depicts what is wrong with ulster football when a talented footballer like him can be reduced to that type of 'win no matter what the cost' mentality *raises flame shield* He pulled down Cooper, it was blown out of proportion, and it wasn't dangerous. I dare say he's done worse, and it's strange that you use it as an example to bash ulster football, when you compare it to something like whelan's tackle against mayo. There's been many similar incidents this year in whats been a poor year for the northerners, and i dont agree that northern teams are win at all costs, wheras everyone else is playing for a bit of fun or something. Yez arent gonna let go of this canavan incident, it's brought up a lot. As for the all-stars comments, in 2002 he probably got one because he was the best player in the national league, isnt that pretty much a token award? In 2003, it was touch and go, but it wasnt completely ridiculous either, he was named ulster player of the year by the irish news before the final, but the final and semi-final injury took the gloss off. Hey I'm biased, but who isnt? (and in 2005 he didnt deserve it, blame the all-star selectors). I would have gave him an award in one out of 2002, 2003, 2005 years probably. Maybe i'd give him 2003, and then in 2002 Corkery should've got one, and in 2005 McGuigan.
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Post by Owenabue on Sept 9, 2006 8:53:22 GMT
2002 All Stars were:
Stephen Cluxton (Dublin) Enda McNulty (Armagh) Paddy Christie (Dublin) Anthony Lynch (Cork) Aidan O'Rourke (Armagh) Kieran McGeeney (Armagh) Kevin Cassidy (Donegal) Darragh O Sé (Kerry) Paul McGrane (Armagh) Stephen McDonnell (Armagh) Eamonn O'Hara (Sligo) Oisin McConville (Armagh) Peter Canavan (Tyrone) Ray Cosgrove (Dublin) Colm Cooper (Kerry)
I think you may be right. How come Dublin got 3 and Kerry only got 2 if you were actually in the All Ireland? It’s very strange indeed.
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